DF Retro X Modern: Okami HD Hits Switch! All Console Versions Tested!

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Note: One small error at 10:41 - the PS4 Pro label is mistakenly used when it should say PS2 instead. Apologies for the confusion!
Fancy a little bonus DF Retro? Okami HD is heading to Switch - as good an excuse as any for John to check out all the major console versions, including the mysterious '4K' PlayStation 3 release! All of the ports have their plus points and you can see them all in action here.
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@charlesbeaumont1111 5 лет назад

Damn, another re-release of okami. I hope they keep re-releasing it until everyone can play sutch a classic because this is one game that deserves it.

@LE0NSKA 5 лет назад

amen brother

@peterGchaves 5 лет назад

It truly is! I played it entirely on PS3 about two years ago. Such an amazing and beautiful experience, one of my favourites on almost 20 years of gaming i have 😊 I almost cried when it ended, after the 50 hours the campaign took i even wanted more.

@johnsimon8457 5 лет назад

Ya, I own two copies of this game already on PS2 and 3 but never played all the way through.

@Arigal3 5 лет назад

Alexa!!! play Okami Full HD DEFINITIVE ULTRA DELUXE AND KNUCKLES Edition!!!

@sampro454 5 лет назад

Jason U Imo, it's a story and a game. Not darksouls.

@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506 5 лет назад

13:48 "Is Okami still worth playing today?" 100% yes! This is an absolute masterpiece that shouldn't be missed by any self respecting gamer.

@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams Год назад

One of my all time favorite games. Played this so much when it was new on the PS2. One of the greatest action adventure games to date

@muhammadhabibzaman9448 Год назад

I had played it on PS3 Such a unique and wonderful game

@Burnout6010 5 лет назад

*Reset starts playing* Yep, here come the tears

@rickylovesyou 5 лет назад

Poofter.

@1gnore_me. 5 лет назад

still one of the most beautiful games ever made.

@Tomiply 5 лет назад

12:33 - The Wii port isn't one of the HD versions. As for the controls, I actually loved them. Well, the combat was too waggle heavy, but I loved drawing in the Wii port.

@izicial7469 5 лет назад

720p is technically HD and the Wii can do that resolution with component cables.

@charlescampuz5812 5 лет назад

Izicial No, it can only do 480i and 480p. I think you’re confusing the raw output (720x480) as an HD Resolution.

@downgrade101 5 лет назад

The trick when using motion/gyro to draw lines is to swipe across fast, not slow.

@PunchKickBlog 5 лет назад

On wii you could press a button to keep lines straight while painting. Is that still present?

@SummonerArthur 5 лет назад

PunchKickBlog what? You can? HOW?

@I_was_a_Bullfrog 5 лет назад

I was thinking that as well

@bradneko_14 5 лет назад

Summoner Arthur you pressed the Z button on the Nunchuk of the wii, the same rule applies on the switch by pressing the L button in the left joycon

@Klarden 5 лет назад

Probably, my biggest issue with the HD version is that it retains the draw distance/LOD settings from older versions so you see stuff pop up few meters away from you which becomes rather distracting.

@midknightfox17502 5 лет назад

Klarden Hexadrive actually increased that load distance over the Ps2/Wii versions for the Ps3. It's still not far enough, I'll agree with you. But if you go back and play the SD games, it's noticibly better. I believe there's a video out there floating around that compares the load distance stuff too, if you are interested.

@Klarden 5 лет назад

Curious. I wonder if they pushed it as far as the engine could do it without running into other issues

@olevet75 9 месяцев назад

That's what I think too, that draw pop up on switch puts me off a bit, while I play it. Wondering whether to emulate PS2 version would be a better idea

@tm9599 4 года назад

This game got me through some tough times in my life and it will forever hold a special place in my heart. Easily one of the greatest games of all time and the most underrated.

@SantaFishes101 3 года назад

I'm glad it did :) so true!!

@BrianHazardVideos 4 года назад

Dude, this is exactly what I was looking for. Just bought it during a sale on the Switch, wanted to see a comparison. Nicely done.

@manofthehalfhour571 5 лет назад

There weren't a lot of cel shaded AAA games this gen.

@JunKurosu 5 лет назад

Manofthehalfhour mah realism

@WH250398 5 лет назад

Maybe if Sly Cooper comes back... We'll see.

@pronstorestiffi 5 лет назад

If you could get Ubisoft to make a XIII remaster i would happily buy it.

@chad_the_bug4091 5 лет назад

wasn't breath of the wild cel-shaded

@Devixicus 5 лет назад

I wouldn't describe this game as AAA, it was created by less than 25 people.

@lostboy626 5 лет назад

Surprised you didn't mention, the option for the Wii like motion controls was also available on the PS3 version with PS Move supported. For me the versatility of controller options make it the best version.

@DanielGrijal 5 лет назад

lostboy626 Therefore the Switch is the best version all around

@dark1x 5 лет назад

Heh, that's something I DID NOT realize, actually. Never tried it with the Move!

@lostboy626 5 лет назад

Daniel Guiterrez - I suppose, generally speaking on console. I haven't played a Switch at all so I can only go off of what he said in the video about the motion controls of the Switch not being as accurate, nor do I want to play in portable mode for touch options. Best version sounds like it would be the PC since you can draw with the mouse and get 4K. But I rarely play on PC, don't have new hardware anyway, so it's not exactly an option for me.

@toonpik7 5 лет назад

Also I believe the PS4 version lets you draw with the touchpad

@lostboy626 5 лет назад

asxciie - I read this too, I'm glad they did, but the touchpad is a bit too small for me to draw accurately. Hmm... too bad the Wii U didn't get a port before it died out. I think the touchscreen would have been great and get similar performance to the PS3/Switch, plus still use the touchpad while playing on your TV.

@wenchinatrenchcoat8459 5 лет назад

I completely missed this game! Thank’s DF for the great analysis and bringing it to my attention.

@Captain_Neckbeard 5 лет назад

Clover was the best studio on the planet in their day. It's a shame their games did not sell well. I love their titles, especially the Viewtiful Joe games and Okami.

@mattwolf7698 5 лет назад

Jeremy Seal They still exist as Platinum Games, many people who worked at Clover work there now.

@XanYT 5 лет назад

So glad this game is finally on a touch device. Best on Switch imho.

@standards11 5 лет назад

Thanks so much for all your hard work in making this video! Helped me make an informed decision.

@ultraranger1286 5 лет назад

The Switch version might be the best way to play this game, because touch screen and how this game's combat almost entirely revolves around drawing! RIP, PS Vita

@name5748 5 лет назад

It's definitely better, but PC/PS4 still reigns supreme, this game deserves a stutter free experience.

@corrinflakes9659 5 лет назад

Touch imo is the best control for a drawing mechanic in just about any game, mouse comes second, gyro third, and analog stick is fourth, IR sensor (like with what the Wii had) is fifth, d-pad/arrow keys is sixth. Of course when it comes to _aiming_ on the other hand, mouse and touch trade places.

@yusofplayed 5 лет назад

Seems like it barely happens & is barely noticeable. Okami on the go is gonna be amazing, gonna get the physical.

@Dr.WhetFarts 4 года назад

except the bad switch performance.

@themriron2391 5 лет назад

The PS2 version stacked against Wii is fascinating because this sort of celshading in tandem with lots of post-processing was simply allowing the PS2's bandwidth and fill rate strengths - one of its key advantages - to run wild, whereas the Wii simply does not have this sort of fillrate or *48GB/s* GPU bandwidth. Very interesting game. PS3 version is also fascinating because of the 4K claim, but I would argue it doesn't even matter since 4x MSAA at 1080p in any capacity is great and is difficult to distinguish from a game actually running at 3840x2160 downsampled anyway.

@Seunia 2 года назад

Excellent review! Good to know that this masterpiece received the treatment it deserves in most of the ports.

@smashmyheadagainst 5 лет назад

I really like the pace in John's videos. English is not my native language but I can understand every word he's saying

@deanholden4019 5 лет назад

My all time favourite game - Love how DF touched on How the art style is so intrinsic to the gameplay and core mechanics. Absolutely Spot-on. A game based heavily on a Japenese Ink line art style. And your aim of the game? Learn how to banish evil by learning new ink based brush strokes. I love this game and this video made me want to replay it, again. thankyou.

@Gencoil 5 лет назад

Excellent work, DF!

@Sabre_Wulf1 5 лет назад

is okami still ok to play ? okami will be one of the most playable immersive and beautiful games even in 1 million years from now.

@Turom 5 лет назад

This game is godlike.

@Tank207 5 лет назад

Well you *are* literally playing as the goddess of the universe.

@Chadodoy 5 лет назад

I see what you did there ;)

@cosmosofinfinity 5 лет назад

Don't you mean kami-like? Heheh.

@oasisbeyond 5 лет назад

They keep re-releasing this over and over, yet not Viewtiful Joe... That game as aged damn well too, it's still a great side scroller beat em up. Ps2 has that nice paper look to it, shame they removed it.

@elenabeatricemartinelli8426 5 лет назад

I once scrolled through PS Store PS2 Classics and I was baffled. they added shitty games like Chess-the-frick-you-want (I made this up) and left out many great games. why that is will never be known.

@AirshBornely 5 лет назад

Always enjoy all your effort you put into these. I already bought it digitally on sale on Xbox One, but I'm also importing the Switch version since I don't wanna be stuck owning the game on 2 different consoles.

@Thorpe 5 лет назад

Are the achievements still broke on Xbox One?

@Highwaysonyfan87 5 лет назад

Been waiting for an analysis of all versions of this game

@Kenjitsuka 5 лет назад

100%ed the PS2 original a year or two ago, and it holds up fully even today! A timeless must play classic!!!!

@bubbag3332 5 лет назад

Never actually heard of this game till now, so thank you for I guess reviewing/analysing this, definitely a game I would love to try, don't get much games these days like this

@sidepresang5771 5 лет назад

Great video, John!

@maBasmi 5 лет назад

So happy my father bought me this gem as a kid. The first time I started to play it I didn't continue after the first few hours. But when I gave it a second chance it became what may be my favourite game of all time. A PS2 game I finished playing when the PS4 was almost released! Quite impressive.. Great to see these gorgeous hd ports!

@totty2524 5 лет назад

Exquisite quality content as always, John, you beautiful boy! Love you!

@sshmily 5 лет назад

Thanks! Needed this to decide which version i should buy!

@Valkian24 5 лет назад

Excellent video as always, I'm waiting for my copy of Okami on the Switch from Japan as I wanna have the physical release. Do an analysis on Valkyria Chronicles 4 on PS4 and Switch since the demo dropped recently!

@PvtHudson 5 лет назад

Great video, John.

@videogamefhiend792 5 лет назад

I could watch videos of this game all day. It is gorgeous. A perfect example of video games as art.

@lorben9601 5 лет назад

Yes! So excited to hear this runs well on the Switch. I'm picking this up. I have the Wii version but didn't play it because I didn't enjoy the control scheme.

@p3wx4 5 лет назад

The Prince Of Persia 2008's game art design was so much influenced by this game. That game is still beautiful and gave me many wallpapers.

@sharingan8834 2 года назад

a very artsy review for what seems like a very artsy game! really enjoyed this thank u for the info. gonna get it on switch but wish i could play on a PS2 with a CRT for my first play through!

@carlosgsouza 3 года назад

I wish we had more RU-vid videos like this. Thanks!

@RudyVisuals 2 года назад

Well and truly one of the most unique and enjoyable games I've ever played. I started on the ps2 as a kid and never fully appreciated it but just finished it on the PC as a grown-up and what a masterpiece it is!

@liraco_mx 5 лет назад

9:58 Definitive version footage right there.

@sonikku997 5 лет назад

SANIC

@xDARKSHADEx 5 лет назад

Best girl

@SeeASquaRE 5 лет назад

Tommaso Galdi Getta Gur Fest.

@cptnoremac 5 лет назад

It doesn't beg the question; it raises the question. Those mean entirely different things.

@moultonlavagaming 5 лет назад

Let’s be honest okami for the Wii wasn’t a hd port.

@christianr.5868 5 лет назад

Moultonlava Gaming I was thinking the same thing lol

@ZinhoMegaman 5 лет назад

Maybe because it is 480p widescreen and some people call it HD when in truth it's ED...

@anasbakhit4303 5 лет назад

Wii can't even do HD, the lowest HD level start from 720p. Wii only capable of doing 480p SD resolution as the highest, the ps2 is around 320p but a selected games managed to reach 480p and very few games got the option to go up to 1080i, Gran Turismo 4, Gran Turismo TT, Jak 2, Jak 3, God of War 1 God of War 2, Ape Escape 3, Tekken Tag Tournament.

@anasbakhit4303 5 лет назад

@@SpookySkellyGurl you mean the ps2 games that was released on the ps4 with trophies support? those are not really running 1080p, they were up scaled to 1080p or should I say checkerboard 1080p using a similar methods the ps4 pro doing with games by doing checkerboard rendering to 4K. even if they're running at 1080p the textures on these old classics are still the SD res textures.

@ZinhoMegaman 5 лет назад

So let's correct some things: Wii is EDTV capable, SDTV is 240p/480i 15,75Hz, 480p is 31,50Hz which is not the same. PS2 is ED/HDTV capable but not even 10% of it's library are compatible, but you can force it to more games using homebrew, but it's mostly 448i. And like i said before 480p is somewhat considered as HDTV because you need one to enable it after all. And in no moment he says the Wii is an HD Remaster, he clearly says it is just a port. Oh, almost forgot, HD starts at 540p or even lower as some PS3/360 games have show us.

@JoshThewonder 5 лет назад

Great video as always, also SANIC

@devilmaycry383 5 лет назад

Have the PS2, PS4 and now waiting for the Switch version. This game is artistically beautiful from an amazing talented team that used to be clover studios.

@veggav 5 лет назад

This game is and always will be a masterpiece.

@captainlcm 5 лет назад

I love it when you guys put so much effort into covering amazing games, and this is one of the finest example. Thank you!

@TheGameCreator13 4 года назад

Seriously. I'm like "not gonna be lazy and just watch one video" but the one I watch is so goddamn informative to the point of watering down the need! (Gonna research on the web for more details on controls though)

@SEGAHEADDY 5 лет назад

14:48 HA didn't know DF Retro used the Sega Saturn splash screen audio for their logo. Very nice!

@vaugna1620 5 лет назад

I'm tempted to get the Switch version just for the touchscreen controls despite already having it for Wii, PS3, and PC :/

@bird49055 5 лет назад

I was actually thinking earlier that they should do a crossover, playing this tonight for sure.

@Mr.GameCrazy 5 лет назад

Can't wait to play it!

@TheMegaNattoMan 5 лет назад

Okami 2 please. I can only play this game so many times.

@rickylovesyou 5 лет назад

Okamiden is the direct sequel to Okami. 🤦‍♂️

@CorrosiveGamers1 5 лет назад

I played this game for the first time shortly after the PC version came out on Steam, and I was blown away! I love this game. The story and art style are awesome!

@GitGoodGaming 5 лет назад

I’ve honestly never got to play Okami, I’ve always wanted to but never ended up getting it. So this will actually be my first time playing it and I’m super excited!

@cwvc16 5 лет назад

Ive bought this game 3 times and yesterday made it my fourth. By far the best way to play the game.

@DJBV 5 лет назад

I played the ps3 version before the hd rerelease on pc and current gen console,its a marvelous game on ps3 with the cleanest image quality on ps3 imo. Apart some framerate drops in some fights it was an amazing experience

@vinceo.1262 5 лет назад

The visuals and music make this game even better.

@ATNtalk 5 лет назад

Luigi is dead

@fact-factcheck4680 5 лет назад

Allwin Luke No he's not

@hunterchristopherson5694 5 лет назад

Death got him good

@Tank207 5 лет назад

That was horrifying lol.

@live_kaito_reaction 5 лет назад

Kind Dedede also got fucking murdered on stream

@mx4159 5 лет назад

What’s up with Smash Ultimate and characters fucking dying

@galindomenafrancisco3187 5 лет назад

In 10:42 you put "PS4 Pro" when it´s PS2. i don´t think Ps4 Pro looks worse than Switch :p

@felipemachado7976 5 лет назад

Paqui10 true. I notice that too.

@dark1x 5 лет назад

Ha, good catch. Juggling all those labels sometimes makes my head spin. Ah well.

@MrGreatDane2 5 лет назад

You mean the blurstation protato 4? lelelelelelelelelel

@DuckAlertBeats 4 года назад

@@MrGreatDane2 I really hate this comment and the way you wrote it. So irritating ;(

@MrGreatDane2 4 года назад

@@DuckAlertBeats I was mostly joking don't worry

@RazorEdgeBullie 5 лет назад

We need a new Viewtiful Joe...

@chilly6470 5 лет назад

Dood_Sanshiro..... Now you're talking. That was so good on ganecube..

@adbdaish 5 лет назад

Good job as usual guys! Quick question...why do you not use your capture device for your PS2? It looks like you are recording the screen when some video capture cards feature component (which the PS2 supports)

@Tyler-nj5dr 5 лет назад

Can't wait to see your Red Dead video!!

@DarkWingSpartan 5 лет назад

I've been looking forward to trying this game out on the Switch (since I've heard nothing but good things), and I'm glad to hear the port isn't garbage.

@danielevans7439 5 лет назад

I missed getting this one on Wii (played a bit of my brother’s copy), but I’ll pick up the Switch version for sure!

@Niborino9409 Год назад

Okami has been a game I have had my eye on since it came out on PS2 I think. Saw it in a gaming magazine. Sprung for it on sale for Switch yesterday. Feels like I went with the right version. Being able to draw with the touch screen is just what the game needs.

@naliboi93 Год назад

One of the best "Zelda" games I've played. Was a pleasure playing this on Wii shortly after completing Twilight Princess, especially with all the wolf sections. Funny that Okami released before Twilight Princess, wonder if one inspired the other. Glad Capcom clings to this game and rereleased it on almost every modern platform these days. Wish Okamiden could also see some kind of rerelease.

@sicdedworm09 5 лет назад

Never played the original for some reason. Can’t wait to pick this up.

@RibeiroGames12 5 лет назад

Masterpiece!

@yusofplayed 5 лет назад

I hope y'all do a DBFighterZ analysis as well when that comes out. Sacrificing some small resolution options to have portable gaming anytime is what's so dope about the switch, and I'd like to see how DBZ holds up.

@m0dD3rLP 5 лет назад

I must say, even being a mini DF Retro episode, I'm surprised you didn't bring up PS2 emulation at all. You mention several times that the original PS2 version is only let down by the internal resolution, so emulation seems like a great solution. Maybe I'm missing something? Is it not compatible? I'd love to hear from you (John) as to how this may or may not work and if it would change your rankings.

@chatdos9 Год назад

You’re 21 prononciation is nearly perfect!

@rfrobfero 5 лет назад

Wow, looks awesome on Switch, and touch screen seems that is a great feature of this version

@DakinRinone 5 лет назад

Glad I prepurchased the game on the eshop!

@nickmotsarsky4382 5 лет назад

Good thing you pre-purchased it. Just in case they run out of digital copies.

@The-Fishkeeper 5 лет назад

Never played it but wow, stunning visuals.

@n_worder 5 лет назад

Best youtube channel with the worst comment section

@Segtend0 5 лет назад

No kidding. Many of these comments are garbage. Can't we have a comparison video without people calling their preferences "trash"?

@rickylovesyou 5 лет назад

Like most quality channels, they manage to pull in the 12 year olds and toxic crowd.

@paulosousa7210 5 лет назад

I'll buy it again, it's that good. This is one of my favorite games from childhood, I just wished Rogue Galaxy could receive similar love.

@marinellovragovic1207 2 года назад

But Rogue Galaxy received a PS4 HD Port... And I'm very sure it was already out when you wrote that comment.

@mattdhargett 5 лет назад

Can you compare the quality of the audio assets as well? I loved the PS3 version and beat it, but would only be interested in playing again on Pro if the sound track was 24-bit and/or lossless. Dynamic range and low-end during battles and peaceful sections would give a nice idea.

@pferreira1983 5 лет назад

I still need to play the Wii version. Looks amazing.

@samarthkapil6579 5 лет назад

God hand :')

@LE0NSKA 5 лет назад

I love it!

@samarthkapil6579 5 лет назад

LE0NSKA everyone did :')

@Armataan 5 лет назад

GOD I wish they would give a multi-platform remaster of that game.

@aaaaaaaaaaaadddd 5 лет назад

@@Armataan I just wish They make a remaster for god hand and make a sequel god hand 2

@aaliguy9986 5 лет назад

One of my favorite games ever! John, would it be possible for you to try Okami on a PS2 emulator and with Move controllers on the PS3 and the PS4?

@WiseGuy3683 5 лет назад

I've been meaning to try this game for years and never purchased it for whatever reason and I recently found out that there's a physical copy of this on Switch in Japan that has English subtitles, so I imported it. After seeing this, I'm actually kind of glad I chose the Switch version. I already like the option of playing on the go, prefer physical to digital, and prefer carts to discs, however, after watching this, it seems the Switch version holds up very well to the other versions in the visuals and performance areas which makes me very satisfied.

@CaptainPsychopath69 5 лет назад

Is that aspect ratio "issue" in all the new remasters?

@illusion274 5 лет назад

I will sacrifice slight frame dips for touchscreen drawing any day. I already own on ps4 but definitely picking up the switch version as well

@markwheeler4245 5 лет назад

One of my favourite games ever it's so beautiful, great story and it's huge! I thought I'd completed it multiple times but hadn't. If u haven't played it treat yourself.

@mountveggie Год назад

I’ve bought this game at full price, several times over several consoles and versions over the years…. and still feel that I’ve gotten amazing value. That’s how absolutely incredible this classic is!

@byronbae8606 5 лет назад

Hung up whether I should get this on 1X or Switch. Is it worth playing in 4k to remove the choice of playing portably and loosing the ease of drawing? I don't play portably very often anyway.

@XgamerdaveX 5 лет назад

For anyone who has never played the game before it is definitely still worth playing today. No excuse. It’s available on all current formats.

@pokefan7446 5 лет назад

XgamerdaveX Plus It’s real cheap compared to other modern games.

@spike2000uk 5 лет назад

Got Okami on ps3 for £7. I loved how the narrative developed and the beautiful soundtrack. One of the best games I've ever played!

@hazy33 5 лет назад

I love Okami. Apart from the half hour or so intro at the beginning. Aaaaargh!!!!!!!!!!!

@jedoled 5 лет назад

Okami Hd was designed for the Wii U. Switching from Tv to Gamepad to freeze the scene with L and paintbrush with stylus/finger. Touchscreen [°■°] + Big screen Tv ♥. Would have been the BEST version ever. My greatest regret.

@rickylovesyou 5 лет назад

Actually no, Okami came out before the WiiU was even a concept. So it wasnt designed for the wiiU.

@Supersayainpikmin 5 лет назад

E M I think what he's saying is that it would make a perfect Wii U port, not that it was specifically developed around it.

@TheKidDoc81 5 лет назад

@@rickylovesyou OP stated Okami *HD*

@YayWalterSullivan 5 лет назад

A bit odd that you forget to mention the touchscreen benefits of the Switch version in the summary, that's certainly something that could definitely be a selling point over the One X/PS4 Pro versions... I'd gladly take that over slightly sharper image quality, which you didn't neglect to point out as a selling point over the Switch version.

@SantaFishes101 5 лет назад

You can use the touchpad on the PS4 controller, if that counts?

@ingenuk4266 5 лет назад

I thought you might have mentioned the DS port? A real technical marvel.

@DJBV 5 лет назад

kev blackwood you mean okamiden? Its a sequel made by another studio

@ingenuk4266 5 лет назад

DJBV Ah, I see. :)

@conoraq 2 года назад

Based on this video it seems like the PS2 original is the best looking version, that ethereal glow effect is beautiful, really makes the game feel like a divine fable.

@OwtDaftUK 5 лет назад

You should do a video about Demon Choas, which is a very unusual PS2 game for how low the resolution is but how impressive the enemy count is.

@evilashxero 5 лет назад

The ghosting is a bit more prominent on the PS4 and PC versions, than it was on the PS3 version. On PC, you can mod it, and tone it down, but obviously you can't on the PS4. Also, the screen tearing can be gotten rid of on the PS3 version, by setting the system to 720. I was wondering, the aspect ratio difference you were showing on the Switch and then the original PS3 version...is that the same on all the other ports, or just the Switch?

@meowwei6181 5 лет назад

Do you have frame analysis on PS3 for their optimizing efforts doing MSAA 4x over 1080p?

@cikame 5 лет назад

I'm actually 30+ hours into my first playthrough of the game on PC, i love it. Can't believe the original version had no dialogue skip :S.

@christianr.5868 5 лет назад

Gorgeous game. They should really make more stylyzed games like this

@Xilefian 5 лет назад

Okami doesn't use cel shading, it just has black outlines, which is not a feature of cel shading (which is a well defined technical lighting model, so it's not a case of opinion). Wind Waker is cel shading, notice it has no outlines but has the stepped lighting of cel shading. Borderlands is an example of a game that does not use cel shading but is commonly mistakenly described as cel shaded.