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Dialect Killer: What Happens When You Learn Croatian on a Dalmatian Island 

Paul Bradbury Croatia Expert
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Some people have a natural ability to learn languages.
And then there are those who find a great teacher or language school.
And then there are those who think that they can pick up the language by chatting to locals in a cafe on a Dalmatian island.
I spoke fluent Russian, so I had conquered the fear of Slavic grammar. Coming from Somalia to Hvar, I did not have any exposure to standard Croatian on the mainland, and I rather naively thought that the language I was picking up in the local cafe in Jelsa was actually Croatian.
How wrong I was!
And far from having a great teacher, I had managed to find the most unintelligible speaker of any language as my prime source of Croatian language education.
If you think Croatian all sounds the same, watch the video and see how the iconic Dalmatian grunt and Jelsa dialect went from a couple of fun videos to get us through the boredom of winter, to my teacher - Professor Frank John Dubokovich, Guardian of the Hvar Dialects - starring on a British reality TV show.
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@rEdHoUsE_1969
@rEdHoUsE_1969 10 месяцев назад
Excellent video Paul ... 👌 My parents came to Australia in 1958 from Solta. We always spoke 'croatian' at home and of course with family & friends. When I went back to Croatia in 2019 my family over there could not believe that I spoke so as they called it ... 'old fashioned' ... to a point where I was using words that those under 50 hadn't heard in decades, if ever. The Croatian language on the island and mainland had progressed whereas I was in a late 1950s croatian language 'time warp'. When I said to someone (in Trogir) I was born in Australia ... they insisted I was from Split ... citing my long drawl ... After a month there I discovered many new words & it was always funny and enlightening when I struck up a conversation with the locals in a particular area ... over a short black of course ... Finally ... is it just me or does Croatia have the highest per capita rate of 'professors' in the world? 😉
@deansusec8745
@deansusec8745 9 месяцев назад
Everybody with a BA or BSc is called a Professor. Bachelor doesnt mean anything.
@zagrepcanin82
@zagrepcanin82 10 месяцев назад
my ex girlfriend was from Brač and when we had a fight i could not understand her anything. but dialects are real national treasure. god knows how many we have....there are some dialects that still to this day have persian words in it....for example patriotic song Marjane Marjane which has nothing to do with the hill above Split but maryan is soldier in ancient persian. Veyske povede which are oral legends(vedic stories) written down,speak about that and much more. really interesting stuff to read
@jelenaivkovic3231
@jelenaivkovic3231 10 месяцев назад
As a linguist I have to correct you: Dalmatian IS Croatian just not what we call standard Croatian, but a dialect.Croatian. Ugh! is terribly funny, by the way, as hi!, l.o.l.!
@j.p.9295
@j.p.9295 10 месяцев назад
It's wonderful. Just that little corner of Croatia is your local dialect and your home . Well worth preserving . ❤ Well done Paul .👍
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
Grgo has done an amazing job up and down the coast - superb effort
@fapmashina1
@fapmashina1 10 месяцев назад
Thank you so much Paul for another great and interesting video and for your efforts for the preservation of our language heritage.
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
Lots more coming if you want to subscribe
@fapmashina1
@fapmashina1 10 месяцев назад
@@PaulBradbury Great to hear this! I'm already subscribed so I'm looking forward to your new interesting videos! 👍❤
@wholesomemaori
@wholesomemaori 2 месяца назад
Im maori dalmatian from New Zealand currently learning Te reo Maori here in NZ but also wanting to learn the reo o toku tupuna no Hvar (the language of my ancestors in hvar) so this is awesome to see!!!
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 2 месяца назад
Lots more coming if you want to subscribe
@saraaranel
@saraaranel 10 месяцев назад
This is pretty much the same in Slovenia. When I worked with international students at our university they always said that they learned the official Slovene at the language course but then they needed to learn the language all over again when they spoke to people irl in a dialect that they used. Pretty much every village around here has a slight dialect of its own, not to mention that some parts have a real language of their own that have nothing to do with Slovene. If you don't learn it you don't understand a word of it. But I think this diversity is such a treasure! 😁 💛 Oh, and let me mention there's only 2 million of us! 😁
@dan_mer
@dan_mer 10 месяцев назад
But that is not the issue here. The issue is that Mr. Bradbury chose a drunk from New Zealand who does not speak one word of Croatian to teach him Croatian. I am not even kidding. nobody understands that person, he screams, waves his hands, mumbles incoherently and then everybody rolls their eyes and just brings him a beer. If he is looking for an English teacher, that guy is possibly the right choice.
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
Except that Frankie is not a drunk (have maybe seen him drink one glass of wine in 13 years) and has been living in Jelsa since he was 8, so of course he speaks Croatian. Case of mistaken identity?
@NenadBach
@NenadBach 10 месяцев назад
Very funny, yet educational. Paul, HRT should offer you a Weekly TV show. I can introduce you to someone
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
The Professor is definitely an education...
@denisdralec1993
@denisdralec1993 10 месяцев назад
I bet most major islands have their respective strong dialects. In the past, these people wouldn't mingle much with the mainland people so their language use had its own independent development. Croatians from abroad are great examples cause they learned it from someone who left the country a long time ago and hasn't lost its originality in the dialect use by melting with standard Croatian influence. Hrvatsko Zagorje i unutrasnjost Istre takodjer imaju vrlo snazne dijalekte koji jedva da se mogu smatrati razumljivim nekom tko govori knjizevni hrvatski jezik.Takvo bogatstvo jezika na tako malom prostoru je cak i meni kao Hrvatu iznenadjujuce.
@malaninaaa
@malaninaaa 10 месяцев назад
What about Istrian dialects? Will you make a video about them? Please? There are various of them and they are very interesting.
@TheGogi
@TheGogi 10 месяцев назад
Nakon nekih 3 godine zivota u Puli, sam sebi sam rekao da napokon razumijem "DOMACE" sutra dan stojim pored dvojice kolega iz istog mjesta, koji su mozda drugo selo od Pule i pricaju svojim dijalektom, ,,,, mozda sam ih 60% razumio sta su medusobno pricali..... nisam mogo vjerovati
@kapatzi
@kapatzi 10 месяцев назад
You should listen to Istrian music, that"s a shock 😁
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 10 месяцев назад
it is mix of broken italian, local village, and small amount of croatian language
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 10 месяцев назад
@@makantahi3731 Local village is probably speaking old archaic Croatian mixed with Venetian/Italian plus maybe local Romance
@Kiwiwanderer
@Kiwiwanderer 10 месяцев назад
Haha 💯- my Croatian parents immigrated to New Zealand 🇳🇿 in the 1950s …I was born in New Zealand 🇳🇿 but only spoke Croatian till I was 5yrs old. My parents come from Gradac and Makarska. I take my daughter to Croatia 🇭🇷 a few years back and the taxi drivers in Split and Zagreb were in hysterics with our croatian - they knew instantly we were Dalmatians- they said you sound like a couple of old Croatian Babas!
@howardherrnstadt7367
@howardherrnstadt7367 10 месяцев назад
I expect to be in Croatia in the coming months on business for my girlfriend's family. We will stay a week or two, I hope. I'll look you up and buy you a beer. I can't drink but will enjoy a soda water with you and my girlfriend Jelitza (Helena) She can enjoy Croatian wine. Also, she and her parents lived with a grandmother in Manhattan for her first five years, so she speaks the language pretty well. (She has visited Croatia a few times, including during the civil war to do psychological research.) I'll bring my harmonicas and hope to jam at a blues club and also with Croatian folk musicians. I have a lot of minor key harmonicas and want to give their music a try. As far as learning Croatian goes, I've only been able to learn a few phrases. I speak excellent Spanish and passable French, but Croatian is really challenging for me! I have sent the link for this video to Helena. She will get a kick out of it.
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
Have a good trip
@IvMand
@IvMand Месяц назад
Not really "wuu" Its deep "Ee" Or "Eeeeee" if you ypu really glad to see someone 😄 Still used regularily in Split by locals
@sinisa5567
@sinisa5567 10 месяцев назад
This will be interesting :)
@pathofexile7529
@pathofexile7529 10 месяцев назад
Watching this from Finglas as Croatian 😎
@Lily-cv1ds
@Lily-cv1ds 10 месяцев назад
Dalmasia dialect is Beautiful to me I love it because it's much easier to pronounce then proper Croatia.
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
Ae!
@Saratheartist
@Saratheartist 6 месяцев назад
I grew up on a Dalmatian island and I use the dialect to speak. Sometimes I forget the actual words🤣
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 5 месяцев назад
haha, i hear you
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 10 месяцев назад
I love that series it was so funny but yet inspirational :) I would say dialect Croatian is best Croatian not because Official language is bad or something like that but because dialect is authentic it is something that comes from life and is made by life of people who speak it, that is actually not just in Croatia but in any country for example even with English in England it is dascinating how much dialects there is and how much special they are, dialects are something that gives flavor to language.
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
Yes, i have never lived in a place with SO many dialects, often between villages - Hvar has 8 words fo chisel, for example.
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 10 месяцев назад
@@PaulBradbury Chisel is Špatula? I actually did not know English word.
@mladbozic
@mladbozic 10 месяцев назад
Valjda si shvatio da gaće na otoku i gaće u Zagrebu nisu isto? 😄
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 10 месяцев назад
jer na otoku ne nose gaće , pa hlaće zovu gaće
@matejmaric3346
@matejmaric3346 10 месяцев назад
I'm Croatian (from Zagreb) and sometimes when I visit the coast and hear Dalmatian people speak to each other I'm like are they even speaking Croatian right now?
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 10 месяцев назад
Pa to je najarhaičnija verzija Hrvatskog jezika, pročitaj tekst sa baščanske ploče i skužit ćeš da je Čakavski, iako istinu za volju sad je ovo neki hibrid svega i svačega
@ajmosutra7667
@ajmosutra7667 10 месяцев назад
​@@stipe3124pa moze biti da je cakavski dijalekt najarhaicniji, ali je i potomak vulgarnog tj. Prakticiranog latinskog jezika, zbog cega u dalmatinskom hrvatskom ima puno latinizama. To samo po sebi negira dalmatinsko narjecje kao najhrvatskije jer to znaci da nema autohtono hrvatski naziv za pojmove koji vec postoje u stranim jezicima, sto je, naravno, nešto sto nije pozeljno u vlastitom jeziku
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 10 месяцев назад
@@ajmosutra7667 Pa ne znam baš koliko negira kad je ionako odmah od početka došlo do mišanja između jezika i populacije koja je došla i koja je tu već bila. Ima i Štokavski Latinizama samo su skriveni i ne toliko očigledni .
@okiokic
@okiokic 10 месяцев назад
Haha beautiful👌❤️
@royalnavyyachtmaster
@royalnavyyachtmaster 10 месяцев назад
Loving the videos Paul want to have a beer with you when we come to live in Croatia in a few months Please look out for an e mail from me - would like to consult with you about making it happen. Thank you 👍
@nevankabediv5035
@nevankabediv5035 10 месяцев назад
Please help me how can I invest Canadian dolar in Croatia. I just wane move back to my own country from Canada Please Help Thank you !!!
@HladniSjeverniVjetar
@HladniSjeverniVjetar 10 месяцев назад
I have a similar idea of preserving customs on video....just need to get free time that is....
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
time, the great enemy
@HladniSjeverniVjetar
@HladniSjeverniVjetar 10 месяцев назад
@@PaulBradbury Yes, and priorities :D But i am hoping to get the idea into a clearer format by mid next year when my schedule will be wide open. So it's all in the plans.
@gob8399
@gob8399 10 месяцев назад
Did you learn all different meanings of "e"?
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
yes, all 57 of them - more than eskimos have for snow
@danijelchicago
@danijelchicago 22 дня назад
Dobro doshow equals do bro do show - what is hard to learn as equals with diffrent meaning
@soksb3766
@soksb3766 10 месяцев назад
English and Americans are often opportunistic towards other languages ​​and take advantage of the fact that most of us speak solid English. This puts us in an inferior position when we talk about more serious topics, because with our knowledge of English it is often impossible to express all the nuances of some of the more complex ones. It's not a nice feeling to be inferior in your own country...
@ksuntesic
@ksuntesic 10 месяцев назад
AE :)
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
possibly the greatest word/phrase in any language
@zelenozubi
@zelenozubi 10 месяцев назад
a ići mići brodići? 😎
@nevankabediv5035
@nevankabediv5035 10 месяцев назад
Croatian is Croatian Dalmatian is Dalmatian I’m Croatian from Canada Can you give me advise how can I get more money for Canadian dolar i Croatia Exchange to euro is criminal
@deejagers716
@deejagers716 10 месяцев назад
Maybe once to go to Belgrade to learn real language? Joke, its a same but with different connotation. I think Western people want to learn "our" language are brave. Its a difficult language but if you have whish you can do it. My mother tongue is Serbo-Croatian but i learn Russian, English, German, Dutch, French and also Polish (little bit). Every language is funny on his way. Temporary is Dutch my the best one (also strange language but i love - the Flemish version). I start with French but no way , maybe i getting old. Croatian (offical ) is nice language to learn it. My dream was to study in Zagreb but then start that stupid war.
@hrvatskinoahid1048
@hrvatskinoahid1048 10 месяцев назад
Croatian and Serbian are different languages.
@meduzsazsa8490
@meduzsazsa8490 10 месяцев назад
You Serbs will never understand there is no "ours", there is croatian and there is serbian. Kraj štorije
@deejagers716
@deejagers716 10 месяцев назад
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 i don't think so. Serbo-Croatian is one language
@hrvatskinoahid1048
@hrvatskinoahid1048 10 месяцев назад
Nobody cares what you think. @@deejagers716
@hrvatskinoahid1048
@hrvatskinoahid1048 9 месяцев назад
@@Nostalgia- Croatian linguists classify Croatian and Serbian as different languages.
@ioanpena
@ioanpena 4 месяца назад
Dalmatians ( the people of ) are very loud !!!
@silviah2302
@silviah2302 10 месяцев назад
hahaha
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 10 месяцев назад
they screwing you, nobody talks like that and that "hello" is more when you call somebody from far away
@PaulBradbury
@PaulBradbury 10 месяцев назад
Trust me, he talks exactly like that
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 10 месяцев назад
@@PaulBradbury Alo, Ej,E, A di si, A ... there are various option to say hello
@hrvatskinoahid1048
@hrvatskinoahid1048 10 месяцев назад
Dialects are well and good, but standard Croatian is king.
@KrunoslavRajakovic
@KrunoslavRajakovic 10 месяцев назад
Will never understand how can you speak and understand Russian but not Croatian??? It’s same grammar with few different words and slightly Italian accent 😂😂😂
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 10 месяцев назад
no, no connection between , croatian is more similar with slovakian and bulgarian
@KrunoslavRajakovic
@KrunoslavRajakovic 10 месяцев назад
@@makantahi3731 when drunk me and my Bulgarian neighbour were speaking our languages in between and we understood just enough. Also he had a kid with chez wife. Their understood almost everything when we were babysitting him. But as I know Russian grammara bit. That’s almost the same.
@DivljaVoda
@DivljaVoda 10 месяцев назад
Ukrainian is more a like then Russian
@KrunoslavRajakovic
@KrunoslavRajakovic 10 месяцев назад
@@DivljaVoda yeah Croatian is more similar to Russian than Serbian.
@stipe3124
@stipe3124 10 месяцев назад
@@DivljaVoda True! but Russian did take many things from Old Church Slavonic which is ancestor of Bulgarian
@putinwillhanginthemiddleof4866
@putinwillhanginthemiddleof4866 10 месяцев назад
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👍‼️❤️