Fox mechanic Taj Hendry, reveals the process in servicing a Fox Float X2, and the proper steps required when working alongside factory world cup teams. #ridefox #foxdialed #factorysupport #foxfloatx2 #Floatx2service
Love the amount of knowledge being shared between this and the setup ep as well! Can't wait to get out to fromme and dial my bike in properly! Keep up the good work!
I have a bleeding machine and holy crap, this is just as fast! Granted, a race rebuild every week is the best preventative maintenance, but it's nice to let the robot bang it out while I do other stuff for a few minutes.
Thank you Fox, a very nice video, your marketing is second to none. If it's possible some time in the future, it would be lovely to see some shim stacks you have developed both for shocks and forks over the numerous years of your work. Cheers and looking forward to your next episode!
Great vid, shows how much work it is to really service these bad boys. Would be cool to see a DHX2 full service to see the difference of what you might say is simpler setup with a coil.
My son loves working on his bike and he keeps asking me questions and telling me all this stuff and i dont have a bloody clue lol He also lives learning and developing his skills on the track as well. He is 15 and is facinated by all the extra ordinary stuff you lot do. But whilst watching this video I havent got a bloody clue going on but he is too shy to ask for an opportunity in this kind of quality so i have decided to try and talk to @FOX in this chat and he is 15 and always cant get enough of ridijg his bike even when we cant get him there he decides to bike somewhere as he just lives being on his bike and his name is Tid Alison Atkinson.
Hey Alison, your son Tid sounds like a shredder! It is awesome to hear he is passionate about biking and takes interest in servicing his bike; a very valuable skill for a kid his age especially with how hard those bikes get ridden. Let Tid know if he has any ideas or wants to see something specific, to leave us a comment and we can try our best to get it done for future episodes. Cheers!
@@FOXFACTORY was not even expecting a reply thank you so much for replying. He is also trying to get into racing enduro but he keeps complaining about his wheel size as he prefers bigger wheels. I think its 29er and he wont stop going on about them to me. I think he also have all fox suspension as well but his bike is very old. He was overwhelmed when I told him you guys replied. Thank you again. Alison Ps his real name is Thierry but evryone calls him Tid. Have a good day. Alison
And this is casual speed for taj dude he could whip that thing out like nothin flat. And he also tells you and shows you the solutions for helping with airation
i learned something from this video. first click is one not zero. that's good to know. i now have to rewrite my settings table as everything is one click off :D
My bike shop sent my X2 in to be serviced at Fox, it came back with the air chamber leaking. To my shop and Fox’s credit Fox shipped a brand new X2 for me to use til mine came back from re-service.
Great tutorial. A couple of questions: 1. Would you normally use the Adreani Vacuum machine to bleed the shock? I understand showing this manual method as literally no one has access to that kind of equipment. 2. How often do riders request different tunes on their shocks? Would you adjust shim stacks for different tracks?
After watching this I'm just gonna mail you my shock and let ya'll do it. If I was able to buy all the jigs you used for the vise I could do it but I don't so I'm not gonna mess up my shock trying to jerry rig stuff.
Great video, its awesome that a manufacture would even publish this. Quick question, when you take the shock pressure you obviously loose a little, how much do you add to compensate, 5psi, 10psi?
Super good question. It’s relative to the PSI of the fork/shock you’re attaching to, and how much air volume is in it. A shock at 300psi would lose a lot more than say a Fox 38 at 70psi (fork has more air volume at a lower pressure). I suspect the correct answer is, it depends. And you can easily figure it out on your own by pumping the shock to a known amount close to your operating PSI, then detach and reattach the gauge and see how much you lost.
That has already been proven to be false. You don't do anything to compensate. If it says 150, you add 150. Detaching then reattaching the pump is false because when you remove the pump and reattach it, that "lost" pressure is actually just the pressure required to fill the hose, which is why you will always see a lower value even immediately after pumping up a shock.
Very informative. The Fox manual states that the IFP chamber must be inflated to 125 psi, but Taj inflates to 150. Which is correct? Does it change anything?
Great vid. How many rolls of blue towels do you go through in a race weekend? Between fork and shock service it seems you would have more rolls of towels than parts.
Couple of questions. Does anyone know what the thread specs are on the female side of the bleed adapter are? I've got the adapter, its tapered, but its not NPT. Also, are the steps the same for a 2021 shock? If I don't have a Performance series shock, would I need a VVC tool? #foxdialed #factorysupport #floatx2service
I have a Factory Float X2 on my 2021 Rocky Mountain Altitude A70. I think I'm losing air. I went rom 230 PSI to 1bout 160 - 170 in like 2 weeks. My Bikes just 6 months old does that seem excessive? any thoughts on what I should do?
So, no need to vacuum bleed? I've pulled a vac cycle on suspension oil straight out of the bottle and removed quite a bit of microbubbles suspended in the oil. I saw the machine next to the hand dyno. I built my own vac bleed tank to do moto shocks. great video btw! tks
hello excuse me x my english , it is possible to transform a fox x2 216x63 mm shock into 210x55 only by replacing the shaft ano lll 185 (T) /210x50/55 thank you
Too bad I watched this video after I locked the high speed valves by pulling them clockwise and I heard a crunching noise. What spare parts are needed for repairs?((help me please 🙏
so do you know how much air is lost, buy installing the pump to "measure" the pressure ? So original the rider put 190 psi inside, but you dont know it. You measre with the pump now 178 for example? Do you add always the same factor on top afterwards?
Hi, congratulations on the video! I am reviewing my float x2 but I have a problem with the IFP: my shock absorber is 205 mm x 65, if I convert to inches it is 8. 070 x 2.50. I don't understand what VET measure I have to use. Can you help me ? my shock has the serial number C99N. Thank you
Those are the knipex Pliers wrench. They are smooth jawed like an adjustable wrench and the jaws are always parallel. The patent ran out, so other companies make similar tools now as well. Knipex are the highest quality though. If you need actual Pliers with teeth to grip shit, check out their Cobra water pump Pliers. 😊
Do mine next! Its stuck down and still has the old thinner air can that was never sent in for the recall in 2016 because it was stuck down and not in use 😂 anyone know where to get a new air can for the 8.75”? I can only find the 8.5” and thats a different part number, even tried to put my other air can on from my 2018 8.5” with no luck, its a tiny tiny bit shorter
#foxdialed aeration was mentioned twice in this video. Any way you guys can explain what aeration is and how that condition is mitigated (other than oil additives) within the shock? Pretty please.
Aeration is the mixing of oil and air. They've done nothing to improve the design to mitigate it, so you are stuck with fixing it when it happens. If you're lucky only a bit of air got by and you can just pull oil out of the shock and replace it with fresh oil. If you're unlucky, it's full service time
I take it he’s done this type of service a few times. For someone who likes to service his own shocks, I think this one’s not an option for me. Can you even buy the preset tool and shaft clamps?
The wrench is a Parktool HCW-5, and yes you can buy the shaft clamps but they are extremely expensive around 200,-. I did build my own with wood. It's not professional but does its job.
Complete guess would be that they are stripping and servicing these forks every weekend so the long term stability provided by nitrogen isn't much of a benefit. For the average rider servicing their shock once a year it's a different story.
I agree. The idea to use pure nitrogen, for you understanding, is that the molecules are bigger, which won't leak or leak less through the sealing. It also depends on the pressure. Some shocks use 400psi in the IFP to compensate hysteresis.
1. What is the psi pressure of the IFP tube? 2. do all rearshok psi ifp is the same? 3. What is the effect of ifp ifp is too high or too low? Thank you.
Google for the service manuals. The IFP pressure depends on then model and is specified by the manufacturer. For example the X2 DHX has 150 psi, the X2 Air has 125 psi and an older Float has 350 psi.
Nitrogen is usually used because it’s dry, and thus won’t cause corrosion. That’ll be a non-issue on shocks that are serviced weekly! I assume Fox uses nitrogen from the factory because most dampers don’t get opened for years at a time. In an IFP design the nitrogen doesn’t touch the damping fluid, so there’s no aeration concerns like in an open-bath damper. And a tiny change in pressure due to heat in the IFP doesn’t really affect the air spring much, especially since the X2 damper shaft is to tiny compared to the air shock and reservoir volume.
@@aleksandardimitrijevic6575 so i own 2018 version i have it 1.5 year and i had to fully service it 3x already. every time its same issue. u can hear slushing noises during compresion
Daniel Hayward Just send your shock for a service. In my country, a complete servis is 66€ which is way less than all the tools you would need for properly doing it yourself.
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Kazak Thranduil chances are they’ll be exclusively helping the World Cup riders. If they got the tools and fluids for it I’ll service your fork! Routine service or is there a problem?
@@Mapl3Syrup no but they have all the tools and know how. Like the pump that makes sure no air gets in the damper. Not sure that's used on forks but the Fox truck I trust
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I was looking for the adapter. I only found one from Adriani, the company which makes the bleeding machines. And just the adapter did cost 60,-. (No I didn't bought it)
