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METAs - Diavolo vs Funny Valentine Who Would Win? Time skip vs universe hoping, a clash of Jojo's strongest villains. I hope you enjoy the video as much as I did!
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@METAsMETAs
@METAsMETAs Год назад
Almost at 100k!!!
@TimothyJRBranch
@TimothyJRBranch Год назад
YESSIR
@zirotsero6951
@zirotsero6951 Год назад
Can’t Valentine just try to find a Diavolo without a stand or when in his Doppio form, put him in this universe and eventually Diavolo gets tired and of avoiding his other self while fighting
@TheDockent-u3f
@TheDockent-u3f Год назад
HAHAHAH
@TimothyJRBranch
@TimothyJRBranch Год назад
@@zirotsero6951 true true but the chances of that
@Facebones2391
@Facebones2391 Год назад
@@zirotsero6951 in infinite realities, it's likely he could find a Diavolo/Doppio with no stand and a normal life. Bring 11 of them over every second, or just a sea of them like Konan's paper jutsu. Either way KC will hit a limit.
@kielbasamage
@kielbasamage Год назад
I like the idea of Valentine using his stand ability during the timeskip and suddenly becoming aware that he had jumped into a different world without realizing.
@DudeManBoySon2059
@DudeManBoySon2059 Год назад
John Pork
@error-4269
@error-4269 Год назад
Moby Dick
@noahabella
@noahabella Год назад
Hubb😢t😢😢😂😢😢 g bbhunter
@Zeipio
@Zeipio Год назад
@@noahabella this speech got me emotional
@ImGenuinelyLosingMySanity
@ImGenuinelyLosingMySanity Год назад
@@noahabella fax
@Eterco
@Eterco Год назад
Ok, but how does Diavolo fair against Funnier Valentine?
@fathermc249
@fathermc249 Год назад
When the whole Valentine family pulls up: Funny, Funnier, and Funniest.
@prasant6533
@prasant6533 Год назад
fellow jorge joestar reader
@nova_supreme8390
@nova_supreme8390 Год назад
Or the final boss: Gay Valentine.
@dayrocket7372
@dayrocket7372 Год назад
@@nova_supreme8390 we dont talk about gay valentine
@kn1ght90
@kn1ght90 Год назад
Guys I haven't read the light novel so i gotta ask how strong is Funnier Valentine and Funniest Valentine
@ominiusgaming
@ominiusgaming Год назад
Jojos powerscaling: Strength: child flicking his legs Hacks: multiversal
@bananabanana484
@bananabanana484 3 месяца назад
You get it!
@jokazonu2051
@jokazonu2051 Год назад
Pitting the guy who has infinite amount of lives vs the guy who has an infinite amount of deaths
@wurmrave6831
@wurmrave6831 5 месяцев назад
Thats a pretty funny to think about
@josuen1818
@josuen1818 3 месяца назад
If he dies an infinite amount of deaths, does that mean he has died after 20 years of a happy marriage just do die because he looked at a certain 4 pixels of an image.
@Shipmaster09
@Shipmaster09 2 месяца назад
​@@josuen1818Is that a SCP reference!?
@josuen1818
@josuen1818 2 месяца назад
@@Shipmaster09 yes
@poketdoom
@poketdoom Год назад
They both have a lot of similarities, they fight dirty, they control fate, etc
@METAsMETAs
@METAsMETAs Год назад
Real
@poketdoom
@poketdoom Год назад
@@cat3847 which is crazy because King Crimson can overpower the Passione gang with sheer physical strength alone
@aiereeee6223
@aiereeee6223 Год назад
@Metallica that's what I actually like about Diavolo, he just wants to end things fast, giving a real cryptic mafia Boss vibes
@Jonathan-lz7fp
@Jonathan-lz7fp Год назад
@@theodresoos when what??
@tailpig6417
@tailpig6417 Год назад
This is the reason I believe Diavolo might be a parallel Funny Valentine in the same way as Koichi is a parallel Yasuho. However, that doesn't mean Funny Valentine can use Diavolo as an extra life, since Diavolo already has a Stand, and thus cannot receive D4C
@jaymercer4515
@jaymercer4515 Год назад
Since the events do happen, Valentine is at a major advantage in that Diavolo can see him hopping dimensions but can't stop him from doing it in many cases. Furthermore, Valentine would keep switching bodies. Not to say this would be an easy battle for Valentine though, he is smart, but it would take a minute to figure out Diavolo's abilities. On the flip side though, Diavolo's Time Erasure seems to only excel against single targets (for counters) When being bumrushed by multiples or in a position where attacking might compromise him, he'd faster retreat. However, not to underestimate King Crimson's strength, I'd say it is one of if not the physically strongest we've seen (Star Platinum does its damage in a barrage of punches, King Crimson donuts and vivisects people with a single strike), it is highly possible Diavolo gets the idea he needs to instantly kill Valentine, and say, uses King Crimson to lop off Valentine's head.
@lisboah
@lisboah Год назад
Here's a question. What if Diavolo decides to use King Crimson against D4C itself? Instead of attacking Valentine, he punches a hole through D4C. Valentine gets the hole in his torso as well, and D4C is left weakened and is thus unable to use his ability. And, taking advantage of this, Diavolo crushes Valentine's head.
@enenra6417
@enenra6417 Год назад
​@LISBOAH considering that's Diavolo's second move that'd give Valentine enough time to bring in another Valentine which would make Diavolo skip time and get a safe distance to think wtf just happened
@zoro59611
@zoro59611 Год назад
​@@lisboahkc stood still to long uh oh! He spawned another KC and they got mixed and died
@jaymercer4515
@jaymercer4515 Год назад
@LISBOAH That's a good question, but given Diavolo's arrogance, that wouldn't be his first move, at least, as we see he immediately goes for a fatal blow to the User that usually isn't instantly fatal in almost all cases. Believing he'd won by that point, the just barely alive Valentine would have just enough time to dimension hop with how lax the activation requirement for D4C is. With Valentine now disappeared, Diavolo would be momentarily shaken, as we've seen him panick quite often when things don't go as he plans (believing Epitaph and Fate to be 100% undefeatable, so something seemingly disregarding that would have him shook for a bit as he tries to process what's going on.). From here, I see two scenarios happening, but both would likely result in Time Skip: Valentine reappearing instantly; or Diavolo regaining his composure and using Epitaph out of paranoia. This would result in him seeing Valentine re-emerge with multiple Valentines after a few moments as Valentine has to gather them. In the case of multiple, Diavolo wouldn't engage as he would think it were a trick. Then, I don't know how the fight would go. Grabbing another Diavolo wouldn't really work, given Diavolo's mysteriousness, reclusiveness, and the fact Valentine wouldn't know Doppio is Diavolo. That last part alone kinda makes the argument of using another dimensional version of him extremely unlikely to actually work.
@emssasukeisunderrated7946
@emssasukeisunderrated7946 Год назад
Star Platinum and The World can easily do that in time stop we’ve seen it. A pissed off Jotaro can do a barrage of donut holes to a vampire whose physicals far exceed a humans
@NotPork
@NotPork Год назад
Thank you! Feels like literally NO ONE seems to notice valentine's mortality when oneshotted or when prevented from getting between objects like the diego fight Edit: important to note, D4C and KC both manipulate timeLINES as opposed to time TRAVEL. I wonder if epitaph would interact somehow, like Underworld and Burning Down The House.
@captainb.mccrea5480
@captainb.mccrea5480 Год назад
I love when people just ignore Love Train because it proves Funny Valentine is stronger 😁
@yucatancallejero
@yucatancallejero Год назад
@@captainb.mccrea5480 this is King Crimson VS base d4c, no love train bro. King Crimson is just stronger than him without love train, cope
@NotPork
@NotPork Год назад
@@captainb.mccrea5480 Even if I was talking about love train, that brings it to a losing stalemate at best.
@MB-eh2kp
@MB-eh2kp Год назад
Because it’s usually easier said than done. Bro was able to escape using water droplets and he’s survived a lot of things that should have killed him with bs jojo logic. Theoretically he should be able to use even his own clothes
@definitelynotamantis4346
@definitelynotamantis4346 Год назад
Yeah after reading part 7 it really got put into perspective how over scaled Part 7 usually is in vs battles. Valentine just like Johnny definitely has oneshot potential but without love train if you can just one shot him or are faster than he is by a large margin you've practically won already.
@widowsxpuser45
@widowsxpuser45 Год назад
Diavolo interacting with objects in skipped time happens multiple times. He can do this only if he sees himself performing an attack via Epitaph. Then, even if he activates King Crimson's ability, the attack he is fated to do will still happen regardless. When that happens it's just instant game over for his opponent.
@Far-Reez
@Far-Reez Год назад
So you said. If fate let Diavolo somehow killed Valentine in one shot, Diavolo can skip it?
@leandroandong7400
@leandroandong7400 Год назад
​@@Far-Reez yup
@widowsxpuser45
@widowsxpuser45 Год назад
@@Far-Reez Exactly. But he doesn't need that anyway. Diavolo litteraly cannot lose no matter what. Only way he can lose is if fate itself intervines in the form of the beetle arrow. Otherwise, he is completely invincible.
@chyumiming.
@chyumiming. Год назад
Is 50/50 chance, i mean, sure, he can do that, but, like in the fight against rissoto, what if he see himself being hurt,risk,
@leandroandong7400
@leandroandong7400 Год назад
@@chyumiming. he will just erase that moment of time, adjust his position to a favorable spots. He needs to be very cautious about this because he can only skip 10 sec of time and he may accidentally erase nuisances moments and leave that moments he see in Epitaph which is what Diavolo is aware of advicing Doppio to don't us KC ability yet when he see in Epitaph his heads blows up.
@catching.rainbows
@catching.rainbows Год назад
I do wonder if Diavolo could possibly avoid being destroyed by his copy self by skipping time, since it kind of takes him outside of reality (unless they both get the same idea and skip into the same place outside of reality)
@Thecumgobler
@Thecumgobler Год назад
he definatly could avoid it since during timeskip he isnt part of existance and fate itself anymore
@asmagamer728
@asmagamer728 Год назад
Same logic with timestop, but after Time skip ends he will die
@MalosiAudios
@MalosiAudios Год назад
I'd like to think both Diavolo's with Epitaph would immediately figure out their both dead if they get close
@catching.rainbows
@catching.rainbows Год назад
@@MalosiAudios I didn’t even think of that, that would be pretty cool
@admiralkizaru7925
@admiralkizaru7925 Год назад
​@asmagamer728 Wait why will he die?
@il3fortunato664
@il3fortunato664 Год назад
These two villains have on their stands the shenanigans, they can do literally anything and it would work! Diavolo with his huge power can kill Valentine in OHKO, but Valentine can switch to other universes if he can have some sorta of surface to pass inside and so every damage is null. Valentine it's also a trickster, he can just spawn with other copies and overwhelmed Diavolo beating him easily. There are so many situations it's impossible to say who can win. On my opinion, Valentine can have high chances to win the fight.
@TotallyNotSena
@TotallyNotSena Год назад
I agree with you buddy. Imagine though, Diavolo sees a future where he blows up and suddenly grenades start showing up from random places. Like, Valentine could just hide in another dimension and blow him up lol
@scratchsketch1879
@scratchsketch1879 Год назад
I'm of the mind that if Valentine can find a universe with a Diavolo that doesn't own a stand he could just take him hostage and win instantly.
@Afraidofwomen
@Afraidofwomen Год назад
ti ho visto in un video di fakedub ita. bella.
@il3fortunato664
@il3fortunato664 Год назад
@@Afraidofwomen Bella!
@awsomno
@awsomno Год назад
Here is the thing though with future sight he would just never get caught in valintines traps mobing him wont work as his stand would easily elimate the clones hiting him with an alternate version of himself wouldnt work as he would just see into the future and know not to do that and his stand should be fast enough to catch bullets so that wont work the only thing valintine has is infinite lives which is somewhat countered by precognition as he would see that he is about yo disapear and kill him before he could he would know valintines ever move before he makes it
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Год назад
Just a note that's worth taking: Both of King Crimson's abilities are tied specifically to the timestream of a single universe. As D4C and Valentine can cross different universes and therefore enter into safe spaces that can't be effected by Epitaph or time skip, that's automatically a huge advantage for Valentine.
@error-4269
@error-4269 Год назад
Bruh when you realized that his abilities are more similar to causality and fate manipulation then having to do anything with time and when you also realize that fate is literally helping him and would only fuck him over if it finds a individual more Worthy like giorno then talk to me my boy instead of speculating what is connected to the time stream or not you should try to connect your meet with some 🐩🙇‍♀️s
@KingOfFools784
@KingOfFools784 Год назад
@@error-4269 I am not reading that long ass sentence
@error-4269
@error-4269 Год назад
@@KingOfFools784 lazy ahhh slow ahhh failed Kindergarten look ahhh ni¶¶a how is that long? i can read like 700 words in 6 minutes and understand what is happening on the page you should be able to read and Digest that information in seconds.
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Год назад
@@error-4269 I have literally no idea what you're going on about. I'm used to.. subtly unhinged rants in the replies of my comments, but yours is particularly intriguing.
@Thecumgobler
@Thecumgobler Год назад
that is an asumption
@theworld6888
@theworld6888 Год назад
Imagine Valentine with D4C Love Train VS Diavolo if he got the arrow with King Crimson Requiem.
@nicolasleal5644
@nicolasleal5644 Год назад
King crimson would never get the arrow since that goes against valentine. or the arrow would just reject him sending it to valentine instead. love train literally changes land to give him the advantage and does other crazy shit.
@fanetox2898
@fanetox2898 Год назад
THE WORLD
@Thecumgobler
@Thecumgobler Год назад
Diavolo can also stand in the barrier of love train and no harm would happen to him, then the misfortune would be sent away to another person
@saifkhan-kc9ec
@saifkhan-kc9ec Год назад
@@nicolasleal5644 dawg now how love train works it can only manipulate direct misfortune and requiem stands like chariot requiem and ger seem to be stronger/have an major advantage over love train
@theoneaboveall1677
@theoneaboveall1677 Год назад
@@Thecumgobler that's not how it works bruh. You need something like the infinite spin to pass the LT barrier, you can't just step into it. The love train light is a dimension in itself not a random beam of yellow light
@Lazy9779
@Lazy9779 Год назад
Confusion vs confusion.
@goldenboilelz6945
@goldenboilelz6945 6 месяцев назад
Con- *skip* -on vs confusion confusion confusion confusion confusion
@exphilonstone9649
@exphilonstone9649 Год назад
I just thought of something for Valentine. When he goes to alternate realities, the stand users around him can vary with their abilities. (The, obvious example being Diego having the World in an alternate reality) This could mean there’s three potential states Valentine could find Diego in, within alternate dimensions. Regular Diavolo, Requiem Diavolo, and infinite death Diavolo. The reason I believe these three different types of Diavolo could exist in other dimensions is because, it’s inevitable that they would be worlds were events would lead up to that fate. This is running off the logic that The way Diego got the World is because in that alternate world, he never was affected by scary monsters’ infection. Finding another regular, Diavolo would just cause a normal interaction between the two characters. Finding Requiem Diavolo is more than likely just a losing condition for Valentine. Because of all the evolved villain stands are usually far, far beyond everything else in the verse. (Made in heaven, the world, over heaven, bites the dust in comparison to killer queen) In the opposite case finding infinite death Diavolo could be an instant win condition. Mainly because that death could be funny valentine’s Instant kill. Which Diavolo wouldn’t be able to overcome due to it being fate, because GER. But that’s complete speculation on how alternate realities and versions Diavolo would work.
@goroakechi6126
@goroakechi6126 Год назад
Remember, Valentine can’t choose the universe he goes to. Getting all of those is gonna take hours, minimum.
@thunderspark1536
@thunderspark1536 Год назад
​@@goroakechi6126He's got infinite time though. He's the president of the US after all, he's got even more resources than Diavolo could ever hope for. Hell he could probably bride infinite other Diavolos who have their own kcs and say something like "hey want the US to support and keep you going for centuries?" He could do that and have an army of kcs on his side.
@kuroibail2498
@kuroibail2498 Год назад
What I would like to know is how Valentine would even be able to find another Diavolo from a different universe, since his identity is a secret and finding him is the entire plot of part 5. Can he just make D4C summon a Diavolo? But what if he can only find Dopio. Can a Dopio and Diavolo coexist in a universe since they are not the same soul even though they share the same body?
@fathermc249
@fathermc249 Год назад
It's said in the video, Valentine hops into dimensions where roughly the same thing is happening at the same time and place. If he hops dimensions, he'll most likely find another Diavolo and another Valentine that are fighting or are together in some way, but think about this: There's only One D4C, and we've seen Alternate Universe Johnny's with Tusk, so trying to get a *second* Diavolo to use as a weapon against our Main Diavolo might be a challenge in itself, because you'd probably now have TWO King Crimsons to fight, and if you've inflicted a wound against Main Diavolo, the Alternate one from another Dimension assuming he tries to go and get him, is just a fully healed Diavolo. I can only see Valentine successfully capturing an Alternate Diavolo is by tackling him from behind, because Diavolo probably won't expect someone to just come from the ground. I'd say King Crimson and D4C are roughly the same in strength, as we've seen D4C chopping limbs off as well, but D4C's may be weaker? I only remember him chopping Johnny's hand clean off, but I'd say he'd be able to dice an Arm or Leg off, It can really go either way, but I'd say Valentine could win because of the infinite lives, and if he actually manages to *hit* Diavolo, then he probably can't do much when he lands more overtime, the only challenge is, y'know, hitting Diavolo. Another thing, I'd say Diavolo and an AU Doppio would end up merging, we've seen stuff like a Gun merging, if it's the *same* body, then surely it'll have a negative reaction.
@RealKingFloppa
@RealKingFloppa Год назад
@@fathermc249 I ain’t reading allat 🗿
@thunderspark1536
@thunderspark1536 Год назад
​@@fathermc249It's also possible he could find a universe where he lost and be like "hey want immunity from any US investigations?" And just get a kc army that way.
@user-zr7cm3ni3s
@user-zr7cm3ni3s Год назад
@@RealKingFloppa the reason for people exploding is overlapping matter not souls
@linkedtodust
@linkedtodust 13 дней назад
@@RealKingFloppabro got a attention span of a fly
@SubmissiveMemerality
@SubmissiveMemerality Год назад
Diavolo one shots if Valentine can’t use Love Train
@error-4269
@error-4269 Год назад
*He
@lazyapple_
@lazyapple_ Год назад
What stops Valentine from just going to new universes and coming back with like 100 Valentines to all just run at Diavolo at the same time. I feel like Valentine is smart enough to also use this as an opportunity to gain more information on King Crimson's abilities and it's limitations and maybe even come up with some sort of plan to beat it.
@sup_ernova
@sup_ernova Год назад
By the time he gets 100 Valentines, Diavolo will get bored and leave ngl.
@mystrenula3911
@mystrenula3911 Год назад
Better yet 100 Diavolos who never unlocked King Crimson littered around the field, you can't be in time skip forever and if you're out for a second in that environment you're dead
@lazyapple_
@lazyapple_ Год назад
@@sup_ernova I would assume in this scenario both parties are trying to kill each other no matter the cost, so maybe Diavolo would try to set a trap for Valentine but I doubt that he would expect 100 Valentines to show up out of nowhere lol.
@Facebones2391
@Facebones2391 Год назад
If they all came at the same time, it would be within the span of timeskip. However Valentine just needs to summon 11 diavolos, one a second, nearby him. They don't have to rush him, they attract one another.
@Thecumgobler
@Thecumgobler Год назад
What you forgot is that Funny valentine needs to visit 100 dimensions to get 100 valentines, and that Diavolo could follow him into the dimension. after the 4rd dimension and with epitath diavolo has him probally figured out
@Gigas0101
@Gigas0101 Год назад
Of all the villain fights, this is the one I'd wanna see the most. I gotta ask... Would dragging numerous Diavolos into the same reality be a benefit or a hinderance for Funny Valentine? I mean, I can see multiple King Crimsons using their Time Skips to prevent alternate reality Diavolos from touching, and then we just have two or more measurably stronger stands able to gang up on D4C. Also, can D4C be destroyed separate from Funny Valentine? I mean, the main rule is that a stand user needs to be taken out to take out the stand, but D4C is a separate case where the stand can jump to a new user... Kinda like Anubis from part 3. If D4C can be destroyed, maybe after losing one host but before it can attach to another, then that further synchs it for Diavolo as King Crimson's able to out-stat D4C and pummel 'em.
@quiteabizarreone6441
@quiteabizarreone6441 Год назад
Valentine was able to find out Tusk Act 4's ability extremely quickly, he states something along the lines of "shoot me with another bullet of the opposite direction, I can still save them"
@realFameSpread
@realFameSpread Год назад
Araki should do a what if series like this, possibly doing two parts for each fight, with each part being a different winner
@Pray_everyday_or_else
@Pray_everyday_or_else Год назад
8:27 diavolo can’t interact with anything during time skip but you are probably referring to stuff like Trish’s hand getting cut off but diavolo didn’t do that fate said Trish’s hand was going to get cut off diavolo saw this in this future vision and since he knew this was going to happen in the next 10 seconds he skipped the time and events of him cutting of Trish’s hand and only the results of Trish’s hand getting cut off were left same when narancia died diavolo saw he was going to die and skipped the events that needed to happen in order for him to die only leaving narancia’ death diavolo also tried this in the G.E.R fight he saw giorno was going to die so he tried to skip time so he would just die but giorno used G.E.R to reverse diavolo’s time skip and actions to catch him off guard and kill him
@longnickname_
@longnickname_ Год назад
All Funny Valentine would have to do is just bring a second diavolo in, easy one shot.
@Ungrounded-jay
@Ungrounded-jay 5 месяцев назад
Epitaph
@minecraftperson8412
@minecraftperson8412 Год назад
I think (with the amount of time he can burn through with clones) Valentine would figure out decently quickly that Diavolo has Epitaph. And once Valentine uses some more dimension hopping to figure out the specifics, he can bait out an epitaph > Timeskip combo and blitz the man with 18 different Valentines
@Thecumgobler
@Thecumgobler Год назад
The thing is people think funny valentine can just magically bring clones. Bro has to go to each dimension and he can be followed there
@thunderspark1536
@thunderspark1536 Год назад
​@@ThecumgoblerNo, he can't. We've explicitly seen that valentine can CONTROL who he brings in or not.
@strikermodel
@strikermodel Год назад
I think Funny Valentine wins. The main reason being that the future king crimson sees has the exact faults of Oingo's book: you see what is happening, but only from one point of view. He can see "in 10 seconds, Valentine will try to stab [me] in the back" but there is no way of knowing which Valentine is the one trying to do it. He can skip all he wants, but he can't kill more than one Valentine at a time. Thus, he can't maintain the momentum he needs to win. He'll either get fatigued out, or lose due to failing to interpret the future properly.
@helloblocks.4310
@helloblocks.4310 Год назад
I like to imagine a situation where Funny figures out epitaph and purposefully brings in another-self to get it killed and so Diavolo turns confident, Like when he saw himself Killing GER. So in the 11-12 second mark, Valentine can strike. I don't really know If that would win him the match but it's interesting to think about the shenanigans these two could keep bringing to keep a fight going, classic Araki style.
@charleswright8294
@charleswright8294 Год назад
Diavolo specializes in single death blows. He could probably blow Valentines entire head off in one blow. If that isn't an "instant kill", idk what is
@error-4269
@error-4269 Год назад
I agree that diavolo wins but you don't understand king crimson 1 he doesn't interact with anything during time skip at the end of part 5 fate does it for him he removes the cause and leaves the effect fate does the cause for him 2 he doesn't have a cooldown on his ability like Star Platinum does for example and he can use Epitaph inside of time skip actually his ability is more similar to causality manipulation then skipping time but that is a another debate entirely 3 the stats difference if you wank the hell out of both character Funny Valentine is barely faster-than-light and his AP and durability is only multi-city block level + on the other hand diavolo has immeasurable++ stats you can scale him off GER which you would have to scale off MIH so MIH has immeasurable speed GER surpasses MIH and has the same stats king crimson absolutely destroyed GER in a future prediction but obviously GER said NO that never happened because of his hax but he still had to punch diavolo multiple times to kill him it is my personal Theory that Diavolo got those stats at the end of golden wind when he had his resolve boost when he overcame his fear and decided not to run away that's just a speculation though but yes Diavolo wins.
@aptq9116
@aptq9116 Год назад
8:32 what i think happens with Narancia, is shown when meeting Polnareff. what i think happened, is that he was destined to say all of those things to Polnareff by Epitath, we the audience hear him saying "this is a test" monologue, but Polnareff only hears "This is a test, wouldnt you agree" because he was destined to turn into Diavolo in those seconds, the fact that he skipped time didnt affect himself, so he was able to take his shirt off and turn into Diavolo. This is also backed up by the fact Polnareff was confused from where Diavolo appeared because he saw a kid down with Bruno. Without Time Skip, he would have saw from the beggining Doppio turning into Diavolo. Later he still figured it out, which i belive was part of fate to Polnareff to figure out how Diavolo and Doppio worked. Now what i belive happened with Narancia, is that he saw from Epitath he was going to kill Narancia, he skipped time, and that event happened without moving a finger because it was destined to happen. This also explains the elevator scene with Bruno and Thrish too
@simpleguy86
@simpleguy86 7 месяцев назад
I think I remember someone who said if you didn't understand King Crimson the simplest explanation was to think of it like skip a video in youtube by 10 seconds. the footage still exists and what happened still happened but you the viewer/victim has no knowledge of the skipped footage and what happened during.
@electricburst0986
@electricburst0986 Год назад
Diavolo is literally invincible and unbeatable only GER can really stop him
@shirogami4224
@shirogami4224 Год назад
Yeah and moon is made out of cheese.
@error-4269
@error-4269 Год назад
​@@shirogami4224 and your name is actually Shinigami.
@nedbear2388
@nedbear2388 Год назад
If the Universe and Reality itself doesnt like two objects in one place, does that mean if diavolo touches another diavolo while in timeskip, he will still explode, since reality is a greater being than that of time itself?
@dopaminvitamin
@dopaminvitamin Год назад
Yep. I think even Giorno would explode.
@InfiniteRedux
@InfiniteRedux Месяц назад
No since time is erased he’s not in that “reality”
@InfiniteRedux
@InfiniteRedux Месяц назад
@@dopaminvitaminGER is above reality since it can deny the truth, def would be able to negate D4C collision attack, maybe infinite spin & go beyond are different tho…
@poeticrevelations
@poeticrevelations Год назад
Video invalidated Diavolos loss is one of his infinite deaths therefore making it cannon and the only true way that this fight will end. Unless in the death he beats valentine and then trips and breaks his neck. Wait. Technically they both win because there will be a diavolo death in which it happens one of both ways at some point.
@WONDERLAND6005
@WONDERLAND6005 Год назад
The two best villains with the two most notoriously complicated stands
@rodriark
@rodriark Год назад
Cold off the jump thoughts, provided we’re talking base D4C and not D4C Love Train I think I gotta give this fight to Diavolo. Epitaph and time skip is pretty cracked.
@samsparadox4710
@samsparadox4710 Год назад
I spent like a week or 2 arguing with a guy on how diavolo his the only main villain with a chance to beat love train and you make a video about it, can't wait to watch, btw my conclusion is a stalemate bc diavolo dodges everything with time erase and epitaph while d4c stays unharmed bc of love train
@manupm9161
@manupm9161 Год назад
8:22 What are you talking about? In that scene he's shown clearly outside of the skipped time attacking Giorno...
@josephvaccariello4181
@josephvaccariello4181 11 месяцев назад
Thing is is funny valentine leaves the dimension they are in i am pretty sure epitaph would just see his disappearing and if he tried to erase time it wouldnt effect funny valentine while he is in that other dimension meaning like he could trick epitaph by just sending a clone to attack and then attacking right after in many different ways. Funny valentine may also just run away and when diavolo chases after him and crosses through that portal he just runs into a clone and insta dies. Remember that like funny valentine also comes packing heat with guns so he does have that as a advantage just having a buncha clones who shoot one a sec making it so that no matter when he time skips to he is going to have to get shot. Theirs also a good chance that just clone spam could tire diavolo mentally where valentine is fine since he can just change to a fresh body and then he looses due to that. Also a big one it seems that he can also trap people in the middle of objects so they are in both dimensions. This might mess with his timeskip and epitaph as he would have to skip time in 2 different worlds and see 2 different fates so it could half his ability while stuck messing him up a lot both mentally and ability wise.
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain Год назад
The big thing I think is that it's not just D4C vs King Crimson, the real strength of nearly every Stand is in its user, and Valentine is straight up the strongest Stand user in the entire series. Johnny made this point after Diego was killed, that as dangerous as D4C is, the real reason Valentine won was his decisiveness and his absolute lack of hesitation in making whatever sacrifice or gambit is needed, even ones as brutal as throwing himself under a moving train just to bring his opponents with him. Diavolo is certainly pretty strong as a Stand user even aside from the power of King Crimson, but Valentine is in a league of his own
@verethragnarok
@verethragnarok Год назад
Love Train D4C vs. (hypothetical) King Crimson Requiem would be even more whack
@quiteabizarreone6441
@quiteabizarreone6441 Год назад
I'm still pissed by the fact Diavolo just somehow violated the rules of his own stand to somehow impale our orange boy
@IciWhy
@IciWhy Год назад
Narancia? Narancia was destined to die, so Diavollo didn't really needed to appear physically there and cheated out by time erasing.
@miranhaespada1381
@miranhaespada1381 Год назад
8:20 it's the same thing about the elevator thing If someone was destined to get his arm cut by diavolo and time erasure is activated, the arm would be cut the same way, but diavolo doesn't need to do the attack
@knoahknows
@knoahknows Год назад
Take a drink everytime Meta says Diavolos name wrong
@RedVelvetUnderground333
@RedVelvetUnderground333 Год назад
They can both win so rlly Depends on the writing. Diavolo can time skip donut u or head chop for instant kill, and Valentine can bring another u for instant kill too. Valentine can body hop which gives him the edge harder to kill permanently. Would love to see them fight, wana see diavolo win
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 Год назад
I remember hearing a summary of the Who Shot Johnny Joestar? arc. I feel I should put emphasis on the "hearing" part because I could not listen; I lost track of the spaghetti of information about 1/4th of the way through and everything after that went into one ear and out the other.
@hydrasent563
@hydrasent563 Год назад
Diavolo can interact with things during timeskip as long as its fated to happen
@hainguyn948
@hainguyn948 Год назад
No he can't, he literally said it himself
@hydrasent563
@hydrasent563 Год назад
@@hainguyn948 how did he cut off trish's hand and kill narancia then?
@hainguyn948
@hainguyn948 Год назад
@@hydrasent563 he didn't interact with them, but since they are fated to happen, he time skip and it happened
@hydrasent563
@hydrasent563 Год назад
​@@hainguyn948 I guess that makes sense.
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 Год назад
I was honestly thinking it was gonna be a wash but Diavolo can hold his own in this MU
@Raiden-Auron
@Raiden-Auron Год назад
3:23 Good thing funny valentine doesn't know of ultimate versions of himself like if he did then he would just swap bodies with ultimate life form version of himself making him broken
@HyakuJuu_no_Kaido
@HyakuJuu_no_Kaido Год назад
I was waiting for this video 🔥
@kalebmaloney2079
@kalebmaloney2079 Год назад
if someone was destined to their arm cut off by KC and he skips time, they would still lose their arm as if KC did it with out KC actually doing so
@lightningdragon666
@lightningdragon666 Год назад
I am kind of annoyed that Meta tells how he is explaining it for a billionth time and don't even understand that one thing himself. If it was a small detail, fine, but it is literally a major thing in both him taking Trish and killing Narancia.
@Quwucuqin
@Quwucuqin 3 месяца назад
Actually even a base funny valentine is invincible
@memebase6652
@memebase6652 2 месяца назад
True. You need to one shot Valentine. But he is durable as f*ck considering D4C is the only stand who has the same stats as Star Platinum.
@Quwucuqin
@Quwucuqin 2 месяца назад
@@memebase6652 no i think you didn't understand it you don't have to oneshot to kill Valentine permanently his stand will just instantly get entangled with other valantine transforming memories too which makes him eternal and yeah he don't die by instant kill as I explained the analogy inorder to kill Funny you have to kill valentine in every single and individual universes both parallel and alternate universe basically the strike should be powerful and transcendental to effect the 10 Dimension his stand d4c is a 10 Dimensional being and is entangled with valentines so only tusk act 4 can kill Valentine permanently.
@Airbelt
@Airbelt Год назад
two of the most confusing stands ong this is gonna make my brain explode 😭
@unteleportedbread3023
@unteleportedbread3023 Год назад
I was going to point out the fact that it took tusk act 4 to beat Valentine, not because of love train but because of the fact that infinite rotation can follow D4C anywhere anyhow, but then I remembered it took Gold experience requiem to take out Diavolo since he can just skip past most attacks we know of in jojo Another point, though, is how they fight, I dont remember Valentines fighting style too much, but I know that Diavolo does a lot more killing than actual fighting. He never engages in long-term fights. He tries to end the fight as quickly as he can using lethal chops and impaling tactics and neglects longevity. Thanks to his ability, he can leave the defence up to future sight and time erasure. Against a stand whose only way of killing it is a near instant death, Diavolos' style of fighting can work quite well against Valentine
@RaidenNeedsToPayTheBills
@RaidenNeedsToPayTheBills Год назад
I agree both are tied with both being able to come out victorious either way, I think one thing to consider is Valentine requires prep time, not long but seconds in order to put himself between something to pull out more of himself. With Epitath I think Diavolo would be able to see where Valentine would be going to smush himself and or maybe even see Valentine go into another dimension
@ApocTheHunter
@ApocTheHunter 9 месяцев назад
0:00 I know! You get a headache
@mynamejeff4142
@mynamejeff4142 Год назад
Diavolo can definitely attack during timeskip. Narancha felt that one. He can choose between being intangible and being able to punch your during timeskip. Or seemingly both.
@caydenwilliams5458
@caydenwilliams5458 Год назад
So if Valentine were to force Diavolo to encounter himself would Diavolo see another Diavolo or would he see a Doppio? Because if he did meet another Doppio would they conjoin when they touch since their TECHNICALLY two different people
@ATMW_TT
@ATMW_TT Год назад
i love your theory‘s. You just earned a new sub! i hope you reach 100k very soon! love y‘all
@KuribohKujo
@KuribohKujo Год назад
Dont forget, all Funny Valentine's are armed with guns.
@AmericanBrit9834
@AmericanBrit9834 Год назад
Valentine should take this, maybe not easily but certainly at least.
@error-4269
@error-4269 Год назад
In the American dream buddy.
@AmericanBrit9834
@AmericanBrit9834 Год назад
@@error-4269 Alternate Diavolo say what? Can't dodge that.
@Joey0087
@Joey0087 Год назад
Diavolo = Infinite deaths Funny Valentine = Infinite lives
@t.m.k9949
@t.m.k9949 Год назад
Bro this is just like Wonder of you VS GER there is no clear winner and its all up to interpretation 😅but still an amazing video
@monkeydluffy1683
@monkeydluffy1683 Год назад
W vid like always🔥
@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow
@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow Год назад
This is an interesting match. If it’s just D4C, the main threat is the alternate version merger. Diavolo can just avoid that with his time erasure. As long as Valentine can’t escape, Diavolo can win. If it’s also Love Train, Diavolo can’t break into it. At best, stalemates, but he’ll probably loose.
@Thecumgobler
@Thecumgobler Год назад
Thats a really interesting question since we saw that love train is a barrier diavolo could potentioly skip behind it, since he doesnt exist anymore, he can phase through any object and we have seen that love train is a phyiscal barrier
@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow
@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow Год назад
@@Thecumgobler that is a possibility. It do wonder, I may be that he will try to enter it but would just be pushes out.
@Thecumgobler
@Thecumgobler Год назад
@@Super_Saiyan_Rainbow I do really wonder how it works. I think Diavolo could skip past it, but that is just speculation.
@lando42307
@lando42307 Год назад
Valentine gets blitzed
@error-4269
@error-4269 Год назад
Agreed finally a man with sense.
@KaizenisMajestic22
@KaizenisMajestic22 Год назад
Valentine Love train > diavolo
@yucatancallejero
@yucatancallejero Год назад
@@KaizenisMajestic22 Diavolo >>> base valentine
@gentilhomme6696
@gentilhomme6696 Год назад
Valentine is invincible. If diavolo defeats him, he will just transfer his memory to a clone, amongst his stand. With enough trys, he will beat the boss.
@sup_ernova
@sup_ernova Год назад
@@gentilhomme6696Not if he gets killed before doing that though.
@ELITA51
@ELITA51 4 месяца назад
The who shot johnny arc made me explode
@nate51691
@nate51691 Год назад
One thing to consider is if Epitaph actually helps here. It seems that, as it simply reads fate in Diavolo's timeline, it would give nothing but false information (or no information at all) the moment Diavolo would be transferred to a different timeline by D4C -- something we know can happen pretty much instantaneously, and without the person even realizing it, woth a very loose requirement for it (being between two surfaces -- which can even just include two droplets of water as we learned in the fight in the rain). If that's the case, as suggested by Diavolo's grandstanding and other info we're given, then Diavolo is actually in a pretty rough situation. If it would take him more than 10 seconds to realize he's in another world, or the fight goes into an alleyway, or water/blood splashes around for 10.1 seconds, or anything like that, he's getting moved, and suddenly his reliance on Epitaph is either no help or actively a *hindrance*, giving him false information and making him jump the gun with time skips. And thinking about it, being moved isn't an interaction, the way D4C does it -- it's just moving from point A to B through a temporary portal. There's a good chance that time skip wouldn't prevent it, since it's not a physical interaction. That all said, i dont think this clinches it for Valentine -- it just makes it more of a 50/50. KC is still ridiculously powerful compared to D4C, but moving a timeline reader to one they can't read is going to massively disorient them, and leave them much more open to blunders and attacks -- and even moreso when we know how Diavolo instantly panics when Epitaph gives wrong or misleading information.
@EvilParagon4
@EvilParagon4 Год назад
I used to not get King Crimson until I read something somewhere that his stand is essentially a disconnect of the Ends and the Means. If the Means create an undesirable End, he can just disconnect the two causal events so that the means do not manifest those ends. And this is how Gold Experience Requiem works but in reverse. By setting things to 0, it guarantees that the ends are always the same, no matter what means happen the end cannot be changed. King Crimson's ability is to disconnect means from ends. Gold Experience Requiem's ability is to make the means irrelevant by assuring the same end every time. It's why it's the perfect counter to King Crimson. If his ability is to skip the means, but the means are made redundant, then his ability is basically turned off, locking him in a loop of fate/destiny, unable to escape or skip over it.
@guffy2400
@guffy2400 Год назад
very excited to see how this turns out
@jacobgallegos8762
@jacobgallegos8762 Год назад
Even if diovalo wins a new funny valentine will just come back
@tusky1075
@tusky1075 Год назад
ACCORDING TO JOJO LOGIC ONE SHOTS DOSNT EXIXTS WE SAW CHARECTER GETTING FATAL DAMAGE SURVIVE SOR FEW MOMENTS EX: kakyoin and brunoKing crimson cant kill fv even if he get the first fatal hit on fv fv would definately survive for atleast few moments its basic jojo logic we saw it with kakyoin and bruno so tht time would be enough to swicth his body also his ability to make enemy come in contact with clone and enemy explodes it would completelly obilirate diavolo
@kaio3500
@kaio3500 Год назад
I think funny takes this overall his hacks are much better and as we’ve seen diavolo’s time erase isn’t unbeatable. We’ve seen people put up counters to it in the case of his second fight with polnareff and Bruno. Another thing to consider is diavolo’s only instant death was with the help of chariot requiem against narancia. All other deaths, those being abbachio, polnareff, and Bruno, all had time to do a final action against diavolo. This is all without bringing clones into the mix which could allow Valentine to gain information or the ability to transport parts of himself between dimensions to avoid attacks. My last point is a bit of a hypothetical. If there are two diavolo’s on the field, could he even skip past it as the only one who can interact in time erase is diavolo but would that apply to this other diavolo. It’s sad we’ll never get to see anything like this as we’ll never get to see what happens when two people erase time.
@MagnificantSasquatch
@MagnificantSasquatch Год назад
Honestly, I feel like Epitath doesn't even help Diavolo all that much here. It shows him what will happen, but he has to comprehend what he's seeing on his own. So when he sees a future of himself getting jumped by like twenty Valentines, he A) has no context for what the hell he's looking at, and B) he has no context for how to stop that from happening.
@Rand0mizing
@Rand0mizing Год назад
Hey, What Would Happen If Dio Used The Red Stone mask Of Aja?, im subbed so i can get notified
@dweebhub6642
@dweebhub6642 Год назад
Really just boils down to one question: Does time skip and epitaph work in just this dimension, or all? If it's just this one, funny wins due to KC not being to see other dimensional funny's pulling a sneak attack. If it doesn't, Diavolo can see funny jumping dimensions... Predict then merk.
@KyoryuDiabolos
@KyoryuDiabolos Год назад
I’m sure if 6 Valentines is no problem under 10 seconds but what about 20 or 100? I don’t think even with King Crimson, can Diavolo maneuver around a mob of the same person all with the intent to kill him with D4C transferring each time and all they have to do is tag him with an alternate version of Diavolo, who’s probably confused to what’s going on. The alternate version probably won’t have the same stand though since Diego didn’t but it could go either way.
@ladonmccabe
@ladonmccabe 7 месяцев назад
Now make a video explaining how Funny Valentine lost all his weight and became buff in the span of a few panels.
@johnnywick2460
@johnnywick2460 Год назад
well no wonder you are confused on who will win, a confusing stand vs an even more confusing stand leads to the most confusing battle.
@pinkystlyeteacupandcookies6119
My head couldn't even comprehend time stop vs. time skip and expect me to understand this-
@FriskDreemurr66669
@FriskDreemurr66669 9 месяцев назад
another reason love train isn't here: lucy is the cause for love train, why would valentine bring lucy into the universe where diavolo is
@gortab
@gortab Год назад
On the Diavolo side, there's also the weird physics/metaphysics involved with him being a second soul inside Doppio. This fact messed with Silver Requiem's soul-swapping power and there's the potential for it to mess with other stuff. Like if Funny Valentine tries to destroy Diavolo with an alternate universe clone, but only finds a clone of Doppio without Diavolo in him as well, or Diavolo's alternate universe body is someone completely different. Or in an extremely weird case, we find that in one universe there's a Funny Valentine with that universe's Diavolo inside his head... which would probably result in the two Diavolo souls canceling each other out while leaving the Doppio and possessed Valentines physically unharmed (or destroying them as collateral damage). I mean, there's no guarantee one way or another, but it's just another odd thing that could result in a twist during a battle between the two.
@bezel95
@bezel95 5 месяцев назад
One thing that goes in Valentine’s favor is that all the copies of himself he pulls into the main timeline each have their own D4C, though only one has an ability all the D4Cs have the same combat stats, and it’s strong enough to at least sever limbs with one strike. It’s totally possible that Valentine just sends 100 copies of himself to gang up on Diavolo; sure Diavolo was confident enough to take on six stand users at once, but 100? Also no contest that if Valentine has D4C Love Train it would be an unmitigated stomp.
@AbduletifMuhidin
@AbduletifMuhidin 5 месяцев назад
Only the original valentine has 1 d4c and this video in comparing without love train
@dpo8922
@dpo8922 Год назад
In my personal opinion, I would go with Valentine, only due to the point you brought up with the confusion factor of beinging in another Diavolo. But another point I believe is that, and dont quote me exactly cuz i havent really read all of SBR yet, but what if Valentine could just like.. pull in multiple other Diavolo from other universes? If im wrong about the last statement, please dont get like super super mad at me bros, I haven't read it all okay :')
@aiereeee6223
@aiereeee6223 Год назад
either Diavolo in character quickly decapitates Valentine asap (knowing that Diavolo likes to settle things fast) or Diavolo dies out of curiousity
@bigfatyoshi3413
@bigfatyoshi3413 26 дней назад
16:09 i also think diavolo has a MUCH higher chance of hitting that 'instant kill attack' that diego mentioned, since thats kinda... thats kinda his thing, big one punch big damage. All of his attacks have a chance to just KILL Funny valentine, theres not much stopping him from headshotting him the moment a time erase ends
@JiiWoon
@JiiWoon Год назад
Okay this video finna be nuts 😂😭
@regyrefano
@regyrefano Год назад
Tbh, My oppinion here would be that Funny Valentine wins Im kinda thinking of the situation where valentine was somehow able to pull Diavolo into another dimension and see himself and another FV in order to confuse him for a split seccond. And to top that, multiple FV clones of course. But idk if epitaph could traverse between dimensions, or does it only work in a single dimension and can't see what would happen if Diavolo we're to be pulled into another one. And during that split seccond of confusion towards Diaovlo, FV could either grab a gun or impale Diavolo if the epitaph theory didn't traverse dimensions.
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar 8 месяцев назад
My money is on Diavolo. Let's say Funny Valentine pulls in another Diavolo so they merge and explode? Diavolo sees this coming with Epitaph and erases the point he would he blown up. Funny Valentine is suddenly 10 seconds removed from where he last was. Diavolo donuts D4C and Funny Valentine dies. With the Stand itself being destroyed there's nothing to allow Funny Valentine simply replacing himself because D4C itself got destroyed.
@justan324
@justan324 Год назад
heys metas i am enjoying your jojo videos and i been thinking of a cool idea for a side story which delves into more of how things are with the speedwagon foundation. we never got a clear look at the group itself. i think it be cool to see how it was ran, maybe like from the prospective of an agent who does behind the scenes work like finding the evidence of the stand arrows for jotato for part 4 or investigating ancient pillar man village sites
@METAsMETAs
@METAsMETAs Год назад
Mmmmmm this is a good idea
@justan324
@justan324 Год назад
@@METAsMETAs also i was thinking about that its shown that before and during part 3 that joseph was the director of the speedwagon foundation, then sometime before part 4 jotaro is made director. which would show why both of them was able to access the foundations resources with ease. could be a idea for a video if you wanna use it too
@FM-ex1ei
@FM-ex1ei Год назад
What if wonder of u requiem vs soft and wet? Who will win
@Crate-pr1nv
@Crate-pr1nv Год назад
I can't see Diavolo beating Valentine due to the fact I have not seen Diavolo kill someone in an instant way like Polnareff , Bucciarati, and Abbacchio, etc. F.V has way more win-cons than Diavolo does.
@bozza9729
@bozza9729 Год назад
Could king crimson in time skip walk through valentines barriers because hes intagible or do walls and shit still touch him
@rainytempest3137
@rainytempest3137 Год назад
Diovalos durability in Rissoto fight is peak
@bananabanana484
@bananabanana484 3 месяца назад
The outcome is a matter of whose terms the fight is on. If it’s on Diavolo’s terms or they are just smashed together like action figures death battle style, I think King Crimson ends D4C before D4C can overwhelm or counter Time Stop. If Valentine approaches first, using clones as a testing ground, I think he wins. Diavolo is just not very creative. He is intelligent and powerful, but the most clever thing he does it throw blood in someone’s eyes. Valentine played 2 powerful stand users and 2 Spin Users all at once, to the extent that they didn’t even know what was going on. Diavolo is better in direct combat, but Valentine has terrifying potential given even a moment to think
@samuraituff9653
@samuraituff9653 9 месяцев назад
If you see this Can you explain the fence thing on how he manged to impale someone there or was that just fate or him. Also why can kc spray blood in people eyes during time skip
@kyz7344
@kyz7344 Год назад
If you meant he interacted in time erasure with his blood, I have a theory. I think its like with crazy diamond, and once the blood exits and gets off his body, it is no longer a part of his body, and could then interact with the people and evironment.
@tergartcunninghan2013
@tergartcunninghan2013 Год назад
The biggest contrivance for this fight, in my eyes, lies in the idea of KC likely not being able to see events that lie outside of space/time he is in as of the next ten seconds. Diavolo can see events within the realm of time that is within normal function, we can agree on this. But, I would note, he could not see events put in action from GER, or even the conversation GER had with him. Essentially, a moment outside of the dimension. I bring forth the idea then that Diavolo might not be able to see the fates of alternate Valentine’s. The one with D4C, absolutely, due to now being the “root Valentine”, but the others essentially lie outside of his realm, in a way. This of course relies on some assumptions. The second big point being that, if a second Diavolo is brought in, the two will likely be entirely unable to avoid eventual fusion. They may skip time to buy more, but eventually they will make contact. Once contact is made, damage will become unavoidable. As the two exist on the same realm, even if one DID try to skip ahead…the other Diavolo would likely be brought along. Essentially, the result being a Merger Spong, no matter the result. I for one like the idea of KC being able to survive, but…well, Diavolo, in a fight with Funny Valentine, would be fighting against a slowly ticking time bomb. And that bomb will only keep multiplying.
@dascreeb5205
@dascreeb5205 Год назад
Diavolo, meet Diavolo. *Horrible death noises*
@Lazerlight1212
@Lazerlight1212 Год назад
So what it Valentine just continuously brought in hundreds or even thousands of copies of himself to just bum rush Diavolo? If he kept switching places and positions while doing this, Diavolo would eventually just be so worn down and tired that he wouldn't really be able to continue defending himself after some time? Reading the future and time skipping would still eventually drain him I would think. I mean he could just try to escape, but with enough Valentines all over the place, he would definitely have a hard time doing it
@WOUmurderstomps
@WOUmurderstomps Год назад
You say that like diavolo can't 1 shot FV before he does that
@Shadowstar2001
@Shadowstar2001 Год назад
I think this is more complicated than we realize. I think this is a battle of who figures out who's ability first. Case for Valentine: He keeps jumping 10 seconds and ends up dying constantly, so keeps switching bodies and maybe starts bringing more over. He notices an odd pattern. He keeps getting attacked most often from behind so he starts having a second him watch behind. He watches as diavolo moves spots and figures it out so he play attrition. He out staminas him and kills Case for Diavolo: He bunches/slashes countless Valentines. He starts to notice the pattern of die, switch, repeat. He starts using timeskip and epitaph to find his movement pattern and move between the regular valentines. He steadily kills each until he's close enough. beheads or crushes Valentine's head High dif and I think slightly more in Valentine's favor since he has more "time" than Diavolo
@oksanasnegirov5415
@oksanasnegirov5415 Год назад
I ain’t readin all dat
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