*Thanks for watching.* This was a slightly different [HLH] -- one where we attempted the first investigation of an incident -- so I hope you enjoy it. As always, I tried my best and I take these stories very seriously. I hope that shows. There's a fine line to walk between educating and fear mongering, meme-ing and investigating (as you can see from my merch). *NOTE:* A few of you have emailed me that the Tumblr account in question was posting some clear anti-LGBTQ rhetoric in their messages shown here. Obviously, I in no way support this or the accounts, and was unaware at the time of recording.
Kind of reminds me of David Hahn. I read the book, "The Radioactive Boy Scout," some years ago. I wonder if they'd ban this book from schools, it's one that NEEDS to be out there as a cautionary tale, perhaps with some of the techniques redacted, anyway.
I admired your investigative process my man! I want to ask, since it’s so crazy, what was your first reaction when you saw it led to Rye’s rather…interesting account?
@@justaguy6100 For years after I'd read that story in an old Reader's Digest I wondered what ever became of Hahn. I thought he would've gone on to become a nuclear researcher or something, but unfortunately due to depression after the incident he kind of fizzled out. Such a shame.
@@ShumaiAxeman True. Bright kid that overran his brilliance, and sadly paid a price for most of his life, and subsequently became a fentanyl statistic, apparently.
Yeah it's a terrifying thought that something can be so dangerous to you and completely invisible until after you're already royally screwed. As a power source, we've seen from this channel time and again that it can be handled perfectly safely, in fact safer than some other more common power sources, but as a potential danger to encounter in the wild, it's particularly terrifying because you'll never know it hit you until after the fact. Just walking by a 'Drop and Run' tube without seeing it there is enough to put your life in danger.
I've known people who were terrified of electricity that still use light switches. The unrestrained power of a natural force is always scary, but the utility can be safe and common place
So you're telling me people thought this was real because of the film grain being introduced on the camera sensor due to the radiation, but then in the second follow up video at 2:42 when he uses the Geiger counter to prove high radiation, nobody noticed that there was no film grain this time? (Even though the lid was open again?)
So you're telling me when I watch a random video I have to go watch the entire series and subscribe to every single video they make? maybe people only saw one video and never saw the follow up, as what usually happens with viral videos.
I can easily see how "strange warm rock", "glowing sand" or "pebbles that mess with my camera" would go absolutely viral both on Social Media and in the local area...until it's too late. Especially now that knowledge of what nuclear accidents look like is starting to fade from the public consciousness
That's basically what happened in Goiânia, if I remember the story well, it was a powder used in X-ray machines or something like that, people took the powder that sparkled and kept messing with it, I don't know if it's true, but I heard say that there was a guy who powdered his dick with the powder and had sex with his wife, and another who gave it to his daughter to play with
I also heard that there was a guy who kept running away from the quarantine zone and pissing on the light and power poles there, leaving them irradiated, causing them to have to be replaced
Real journalism doesn’t sell. Mainstream follows the most amount of money and actual investigation like this being short and sweet? They’d be fired for trying to air this.
The scariest thing about radiation to me is just how delayed the damage is, and how many of the effects that would warn off an educated person would instead draw attention from the ignorant. People "playing" with radiation without understanding they are killing themselves is horrifying. In some ways the viral video does a better job about showing such a realistic scenario than any demon core memes. As it shows how small and innocuous an orphan source can be.
To be fair, you can replace 'radiation' with 'lead' in that sentence and it'd not really change a thing. Same with 'asbestos' and other happy joy fun things you absolutely don't want to mess with.
@@MayaPosch True but lead and asbestos don't really do anything to make them stand out. They don't make someone who is clueless actively want to mess with it, like something that glows in the dark or messes with cameras would.
What's scary is; how inevitable it is, there's almost nothing that can be done and it makes the victim suffer, almost like torture, from just a seemingly harmless and painless entry.
It's Lovecraftian horrifying stuff. Cthulu drives you mad just looking at him, radiation rots you just for being too exposed to it, and bar for "too exposed" is really low.
It's rare indeed to have "I searched through NRC documents for an orphaned source of deadly radiation" and "I slid into a rubber pony's DMs for an interview" in the same video.
I was watching this video at work, Kyle started saying "pony play fetish" and it was at that moment the manager decided to start listening and ask me "what's a demon core?" I gotta stop watching videos on speaker...
@@warped_rider Rotfl! It's moments like that which convince me we are entertainment for someone or something, somewhere.. Whether reality show for aliens or personal comedic ant farm for God or a God, whoever or whatever it is, we must provide them w some funny moments I feel 😂
The thought of peeking into a container and seeing a tiny little pebble but knowing that seeing it could mean death is terrifying to me. Its like you looked into Medusa's eyes and then had months to think about your quick dumb mistake as you turned to stone
@@Weazle13XIII I was surprised to see that someone misinterpreted what you said. Maybe you could add "instead of the usual seconds" or "instead of the myth-accurate seconds" right after the end of "your quick dumb mistake". (Although, maybe I misinterpreted it too, but in a different way)
@@cobaltchromee7533 this is exactly what OP means. Medusa kills instantly. Here it’s as if you looked at her but you turn into a stone very slowly, with no effect at first. Hence slowed down version of dying - you gazed at a pebble, instead of gazed at Medusa 💁🏻♀️
As you felt your body start to change as it dies and the cells aren't replenished, while expelling your own guts as they fall apart, knowing that your skin sliding off like a wetsuit was only the beginning... It would be a rough few weeks
@CobaltChromeE it was an analogy my guy, I know Medusa kills you instantly, but I'm talking about the topic of the video, I wasn't exactly trying to be lore accurate
I was an industrial radiographer. We used Iridium 192 and during training we were told the horror stories of people like that guy whom put a source into their pocket. Like the Yanago incident.
@@sirgeorgioalastrata4104 current industrial radiographer. If you’re at the point holding this and having some sort of digital video affect your losing a body part or probably getting cancer in the short to mid future. Your allowed 5R legally a year as a radiographer. Most company’s allow only 350MR a month short of the 500mr your allowed legally a month. It’s potent enough basically to make a dirty bomb that could kill a city, with the radioactive fall out. The sources we use for industrial stuff like weld inspection, or radiographing concrete to take a look at concrete stress cables could range from selenium, iridium or cobalt. Cobalt sources or insanely radioactive, the housing for them is a couple hundred pounds of pure depleted uranium or other dense metals. You hand crank the source out and run like the wind.
@@sirgeorgioalastrata4104 The radioactive particles can be absorbed by human tissue and react causing DNA damage. This will make it so that the cells cannot reproduce and thus this has been described as rotting from the inside out. It's horrific.
Immediately knew it was fake because that camera static wouldn’t have gone away if he put his hand over it, Gamma radiation can pierce through 6 feet of concrete and 1 foot of lead, even that container wouldn’t realistically be thick enough to prevent the radiation from escaping.
@@davgames1206 Well, Cs137 decays primarily through beta and gamma radiation. (Alpha particles don't travel far and can easily be stopped by your outermost layer of dead skin cells, it doesn't pose a health risk, unless ingested.)
It's not as simple as that, sure a hand wouldn't stop it, but technically no amount of shielding completely stops neutral charge ionization radiation like gamma rays. Adding more material simply exponentially reduces the amount of radiation exposure outside the shielding. So with a weak enough source you can absolutely attenuate the source to below background with a container like that. I studied nuclear engineering and we did labs with very weak sources all the time and you could completely block the weak gamma sources with a little block of lead.
Kyle, thanks for spending hours of your time to research this thoroughly! Thinking that someone could just post a video about an orphaned source and _putting their hand right on it_ is absolutely terrifying.
I figured the video was fake. I've seen radiation "grain" effects on digital cameras and it's usually more sparkly. Also, I figured if the video was real, this story would end up on the news in a week or so after I first saw it on Tumblr.
@@Bacopa68 i dont like how rye was thinking everybody knowing it was fake, he's way too optimistic to think people are that smart... I mean he even fooled someone as educated as Kyle or even higher. On the topic of finding him, I'm surprised there wasn't a 4chan campaign to find him from just his hand shape and stuff on the table
This incident, real or not, is just another example showing us that we need to start educating people about radioactivity and nuclear power. Also Kyle's serious voice is scary.
I agree. Instead the popular media, especially here in Germany, teaches us that radioactivity is scary and nuclear waste will kill us all, if the NPPs don't explode first like Chornobyl. The children in German schools are being forced to read 'The Cloud', which is a book that contains basically all anti-nuclear power lies you can imagine, leading to the people rather accepting having a few more thousand people die due to burning coal each year than letting NPPs run longer. There's also a lot of fearmongering about cesium-137 in the forests from Chornobyl, even though the dose you can acquire from even mushrooms isn't any concern. But hey, radiation is scary :)
Like it or not, it is the inevitable next stage of human civilization, as we demand more and more energy sources. Hush hush about it and think it's just for the scientific people is definitely harmful. The unknown produces fear.
When Kyle does his quiet serious voice, I pay extra attention. So imagine how shocked I was to hear serious Kyle talk about pony play in an orphan source video. Strange world we live in.
My first reaction was "theres absolutely no way someone would give themselves radiation poisoning for the lulz" but I remember I had the exact same thoughts about people eating tide pods back when that was a thing
Theres a sad, viral 4 chan post about a russian Stalker who was chasing radiation and secured some old RAW uncased radiation sources from soviet era systems. Posted an image with his geiger counter going extremely hot along side it, and then vanished. And unfortunately what was in the image was verified. I forget the exact number, but it was the kind of "you wont be alive next month" level of nukage. Everytime I see it, its a mix of memes and just sombre realisation that that dude is certainly dead.
Did Kyle just become a journalist? Hearing about a story, wondering about its validity and then hunting for the truth, following leads, locating a source, interviewing the creator of the original story and then publishing the story for people to see... Yeah I think that qualifies Kyle as a journalist, hell thats more work then the media does now a days. Well done sir. 👍
Actually, Journalist dont do that. They run with the headlines and assume their fact for clicks. Kyle in fact did not do that and I appreciate him for it.
As someone who’s been trained with adobe premire and after effects, i have to say that the radiation grain effect is INCREDIBLY easy to make, its kinda concerning to me that something i can do in two or three clicks could fool the world like this
wait- how was the world fooled?? I'm pretty sure nobody in the biden administration or any of our NATO partners took it seriously, i neglected to see even one article reporting on it in the real news media like WAPO or the TIMES, so if people were fooled it was just kids and gullible people on social media, right? I mean "fooling the world" would require the world being aware that this even happened, and it was completely a new thing for me, and i'm even more addicted to social media than anyone in my family(who also had no idea this even happened)
I can appreciate the fact that the person behind this was actually willing to answer your questions about it for the sake of getting a clear understanding. Good on you for both bringing attention to the facts and the morals regarding the scenario, as it definitely falls into that gray area.
Yeah, though the voice distortion made the final conversation a little hard for me to follow, unfortunately. Also rather unnecessary, given it wasn't the person's actual voice.
@@michahogelo I meant the distortion on the voice was unnecessary, not the voice itself. I'm blind, so for me the audio really was necessary - I wouldn't use "necessary" in your case, if you're admitting it was pure laziness.
The thing that stood out to me was Kyle's nuclear contamination friend seemed convinced despite the previous expert saying that gamma radiation would go right thru your hand. I would expend a nuclear contamination expert to know this...kinda worrying.
I don't recall Kyle saying the two sources talked to each other or had been told what the other said. Assuming both interviews were blind to each other, (benefit of doubt) there are many types of experts and they're not all schooled or trained the same way. The video fellow, for instance, (don't remember his name, sorry,) might be one of just a handful of people doing the kind of work he does, so his knowledge of the video interaction _may be_ relatively unique. I don't know/remember Lucas' history beyond being one of the Chernobyl tour guides that Kyle worked with. His experience with contamination and accidents may be limited to larger, more newsworthy events. I don't know the schooling of either person. Nuclear science has a broad range as any other energy subject, but unfortunately a shallow history due to public phobia preventing energy from being more prevalent. There aren't _that_ many experts out there for this stuff and Kyle's level of academic and journalistic knowledge on the subject is rare, despite him not knowing "everything." (Hence deferring to others on specific details.) Just because info is out there, doesn't mean everybody does or needs to know it. Lots of people doing jobs only have the info they need to do their particular job at that particular company, plus a little more they pick up from coworkers. Even very technical jobs don't always directly rely on one's schooling. ETA: It is worrying that the info can be compartmentalized so much because the knowledge base is relatively small for how important and potentially dangerous nuclear science is. I'm not saying that's not a problem, just that it's not necessarily a fault or deficiency of any given person in this broad field. If anyone is to blame, society and people like coal lobbyists are worthy of scrutiny. We need more people doing nuclear jobs, because we need more nuclear power. (And yes, more study of it to know all the weird crap that can happen when things don't go right.)
Cs-137 is primarily a Beta emitter, and beta can easily be attenuated by a hand. I also don't believe it is correct that gamma radiation is needed to create the static effect in a camera, as anything that interacts with the sensor in the camera at a high enough energy is basically going to turn that pixel white.
@@VoltisArt To add to the defense of Lucas, I wouldn't be suprised if Dr. Seltzman needed to look up what type of radiation Cesium-137 produces. Also, a small correction: Dr. Seltzman (as far as I know) wasn't interviewed. A screenshot email from him was part of the tumblr thread.
One was speaking from the perspective of evidence, while the other was speaking on the believability of the post. Evidence wise, the guy thought it was clearly impossible for it to be real. On the side of "believability" making an assumption that something is real just because "who would go so far to fake this?" is a realllly bad approach, especially when looking at things on the internet.
Radioactivity is one of the few truly terrifying existential threats in my mind. If you stumble across something (or worse don’t even see the object) and are around it for even an hour, you could very well die and there is nothing to be done about it.
There are a lot of chemical threats out there that are just as deadly as radioactivity and most of them don't give any perceptible indication of smell or taste that they're present. Unless you're line-of-sight and quite close to a radioactive source you're almost always safe, not so much for being near a leak of, say, phosgene. The US Chemical Safety Board posts videos on chemical and industrial plant accidents, what went wrong and what the results were. They're a useful rebuttal resource if anyone ever suggests to you that some business is "over-regulated".
It is only terrifying if you are irrationally afraid of it. At worse you can get a Geiger counter or similar cheap instruments and voilà. Now compare that to real, commonplace poisons that you can't detects and that are actually slowly killing you.
Definitely one of those “I’ve seen enough fake tumblr stories to have significant doubts, but holy shit this could be monumentally serious” reactions when I saw the video. Thanks for doing the due diligence, Kyle!
@@spvillano Not necessarily, there have been examples of invisible radiation affecting the CMOS sensor while still making usable video data. It really depends on the intensity, direction of the source, location of the camera's memory and CPU, and whether or not those electronic components are protected by metal shielding. I imagine alpha or beta radiation would not ruin the camera, but gamma may.
@@mitchellspanheimer1803 metal shielding is even worse, especially with beta. Remember, Cs-137 is a 0.5 Mev beta source and a 0.6 Mev gamma source. Bremsstrahlung radiation will be emitted by metal when a particle impacts the metal atoms, which can then ionize a path through the chip itself. Some plastics would be far more effective in protecting the circuitry than metal. In space, one faces mostly protons and beta, along with x-ray and a touch of gamma, all save the EM generating bremsstrahlung radiation from the spacecraft hull. Thankfully, one doesn't have neutrons or protons to really foul the camera in the case of Cs-137, but damage from gamma should be minimal to absent at that energy level. As a hint, thunderstorms can generate gamma in the 100 Mev range, we don't see cameras failing from that. Pair production is quite unlikely at that flux and energy level. Oh, another tidbit, I-131 is used in nuclear imaging, had such testing done for my thyroid. It puts out around 0.364 Mev, which goes clean through the body to be easily detected. The Cs-137 is harder by a little, but magically was blocked by a hand that should've only barely attenuated some of the beta and not a lick of the gamma. Were such an offer real and I ran into it and could verify it as a source of some type, I'd buy it and call a friend who's a nuclear health physicist to verify by a proper survey. Then, if it was something like Cs-137, call the NRC and the military installation he works at to see who wanted to take custody of the damned thing. Better to get it off the street and market and into proper custody than pray it doesn't turn up used in some terrorist attack or irradiating a neighborhood. I'd also get the tag number of the seller and if possible, the VIN from the dashboard. The NRC would certainly want to have a conversation as to where such a hazardous source originated.
I think the fact that it was done well enough to make people question: "is this a fake?" is the worrying part of this meme. I remember seeing it blow up on Imgur and even I wasn't sure if it was legit or not. I am glad that it is a fake, but to Rye Pony's point, it has sparked a broader discussion about orphan sources and the need to be careful of them out in the world. I am grateful that both you and Plainly Difficult do cover and discuss these accidents in order to educate the masses on how dangerous they can both be, and how innocent they can look if you are not paying attention.
we're about to hit the age of AI produced CGI, governments are going to explode if people don't start to get a handle on the fact that video's are not proof without additional supporting evidence
In a world where people may just be dumb enough to post a real orphan source, I feel like videos such as this one you've made make a major difference in the grand scheme of things. Huge respect to the effort that went into this.
The thing is, if they don't know its an orphan source, its really not their fault. I can see this happening with a real orphan source that emitted gamma radiation, causing the camera to become fuzzy as it would. Someone with no knowledge of this would think its neat that the item would cause the camera to do this every time it was opened or exposed to the lens. Can you really call them dumb for that? Though in all honesty, there is defiantly people out there dumb enough to do this with full knowledge of what they are about to do and the risks associated, and yet they do it for the clout and 15 minutes of fame. There are prank youtubers who have been shot and killed for "pretending" to mug/rob someone.
@@PilotTed Phone cameras have the capability to determine if they are blasted with radiation, what i don't understand is why is the camera app not programmed to warn people if the thing they are filming or shooting is radioactive... It's fairly easy to determine there is something blasting the sensor and circuitry with beta, gamma or X-rays...
I sincerily think that Kyle's Half life serie should be seen in school. They're highly educative, easy to understand, and Kyle's voice and delivery carries just the right amoubnt of seriousness.
After Australia's recent "orphan source" incident (it "fell" out of a truck convoy carrying equipment) - I've become a LOT more aware of the potential dangers of these things. Love the video, Kyle. I just wish more actual journalists would exercise at least a modicum of the due diligence that you do.
He had more time than your average journalist, and could make good use of it. That is the crux of modern information. You recieve an endless stream of it, and even deciding which of all that is supposed to become part of your output, takes more time than you have to do your work. As a result, the quality of journalism deteriorates, and this in turn makes the work of common journalists so superficial that the confidence in what they are doing, is declining as well. With dire consequences to our political landscape.
also the mention of the person on tumblr saying that their doctor told them that only 41% of people who get this surgery make it long term. nearly every trans person who's been on the internet knows what kind of person is saying that stuff.
@toxic_195 yeah in the video where the person who reposted rhe video onto Tumblr, the same person who used the phalloplasty scar image to show what their skin graft looked like said to someone that their doctor told them that only 41% of people who get the surgery (the one to have the tissue from their hand removed and the "skin graft") make it long term. I think that Tumblr poster is just an obvious transphobe.
The most worrying fact in this entire case is the nuclear physicist saying that orphaned sources are often found at flea markets... Even if the video was fake, enough orphaned sources are out there to convince an expert that it might as well have been real 😰
Yeah, returning to that point would have made an excellent conclusion. Yes the video was fake, yes it educated people, yes it may have also been slightly harmful for a variety of reasons, but the true horror is that it's an apparently highly plausible story.
If I were a betting man I would say in most cases it comes in the form watches. As they used radium paint as luminescence for decades. Toys are another source but they are incredibly rare. It could also tritium if you are looking for it in the form of gun sights and there are a few watch companies that use tritium tubes for luminescence. My point is yes you can find orphan sources at flea markets. What you won't find are hunks of cesium in homemade containment units.
Could a cesium pellet have been sourced from the inside of an old x-ray machine? If so, think of how many x-ray machines there are, and therefore how common this threat could be.
The horse mag in the background was a clue nobody looked at twice. Fake videos are usually something I don't find funny, but this man upgraded it to an art.
the person who uploaded this video originally is a horse-themed degen the mag isn't really anything extraordinary or out of character for this guy if anything the entire video was out of character
I was there during the Goiania incident, I used to live just a few miles away from the site and I very much appreciate how much attention you bring to that event Kyle. Thank you so very much.
Thanks for putting in the work on this Kyle. It would be terrifying to think an orphan source had killed some dummy and was just sitting on a shelf somewhere.
The funny thing is, that meme DID educate me about orphan sources and the danger they pose... I had never heard of them before, had little to no interest in nuclear energy or accidents, but I came across it on Tumblr, the replies lead me to this channel, and now I've watched the Half-Life series and other video essays on similar topics that I never would have thought I'd be interested in.
@@nlald well it certainly raised awareness which is what the guy said he thought it would do. Same here- never heard of them before this video and without said meme, this video wouldn't exist.
I'm Brazilian and your video on the Goiânia accident made me take a detour on a recent trip to see the city for the first time. To this day, everyone who has suffered from the disaster gets paid 960R$ (194 USD) a month by the government, which, in my opinion, is far from enough to cover even basic needs, let alone medical bills. They want the city to build a memorial about the accident, but it has been denied for years. I passed through street 57 and the only thing that hints to the massive disaster that unfolded there is a small plaque and the stories the residents are willing to share with you. An artist, named Siron Franco, has made two projects about the city and presented them to the mayor's office for aproval, they were both denied. It seems that the idea of a memorial being built five years after the accident took place was just a political strategy to get votes, they never did anything about it.
@@patrickhenry1249 I'd vote for that; but it'll never pass congress, the house of commons, or whoever makes laws locally; because they themselves would be at risk of being kicked out for lying. Good idea, but impossible to enact, because human nature. Like the argument that Communism could work very well; but human nature prevents it from succeeding, because the wrong people are always in power. I love that Canada claims to be a democracy, but it's a lie. We are so manipulated into voting how they want, that it is anything but a democracy. I'll stop at that before this turns into a virtual nuclear war as politics/religious topics tend to do.
@@antonioarroyas7662 I know, it's not about publicity though, it's about paying respect to the victims of this accident by giving them something to be remembered for. It may be surprising to anyone who reads this, but most people in my country aren't aware of this tragedy, especially the new generations. It bothers me because it was promised five years after the accident that a memorial was going to be built to honor the victims, and it played a huge role in the elections that follow. It's a complete lack of respect and slap in the face of society.
This is actually a good example of biases related to even a professional's experience. The expert in radiation's effect on digital recording said "Nah absolutely fake," because he works with radiologically damaged footage and how to shield against it. He saw the obvious difference, and knew how hard it would be to stop high-energy gamma rays. Meanwhile, the guy who specializes in nuclear disasters and sees so many incidents just like what is described is perfectly willing to accept it as truth. Even though it's quite rare to encounter an orphan source, he sees that exact scenario a hundred times over again. It's not at all rare to him.
If it makes you feel any better, it's always been this hard. We just have mass communication so we as a population can start to see the man behind the curtain. Fun fact: AI machine learning has been used by the US government since the 60's. It's been used on the USS Toledo (SSN-769) submarine for a long time to passively interpret sonar, so who knows what crap was faked in the last 40 years...
I do bullet casting to shoot old black powder guns (civil war and earlier) and these lead cylinders from radiation treatments are a common source of good lead for bullets. I've never heard of anyone getting one that was still hazardous in anyway, but I can imagine it happens every now and again.
This was a rollercoaster of a story lol learning about how being viral really works, to being impressing by Kyle’s research determination, and laughing about the account.
God the anxiety I felt watching this was extreme. For a moment there I was convinced I was watching someone die, and I understand at least on the personal and human level why you were so concerned, Kyle.
As troublesome as the potential incident could be, this kinky person has probably raised awareness of how these objects and their spicy air could very well end your curiosity. Many people will have learnt not to play with this sort of item and what can happen while the fascination may have lead some down a rabbit hole of learning. Something like this meme made into an actual safety advert could have once been a valuable tool ironically before such a meme could be created.
I don't ever want to read one of these comments again, begone foul soul. Not the stuff about spreading radiation poisoning awareness just everything before that.
the idea that something that radioactive and is found and sold at flea markets all of the time is genuinely one of the scariest things I'll be thinking about for the rest of my life now
It is not true however, the seller would open the capsule to see if anything of value is inside and they would get sick before they could even take it to the market. It makes absolutely no sense, how do you price something if you don’t know what it even is? Also big searches are conducted when these materials go missing.
"some guy in the flea market parking lot" already sounds made-up, its like "hey i bought this thing under suspicious circumstances but i am absolutely not suspecting anything at all"
The ending can be interpreted in a far more sinister way than usual here. “I am at least glad that this isn’t history’s first example of social media literally ‘going nuclear.’ Unfortunately, of course, we might not be able to tell if and when it actually does…until next time.”
I start to think about getting radiation detector given number of orphan sources floating around and not just that but amount of just data related radiation from phone and internet antennas. For some just the EM radiation alone from home appliances can cause negative effects to their health, most likely effecting iron in their blood.
@@Hellsong89 Bro. Learn the difference between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation please. Antennas and the internet aren't giving you cancer, it's non-ionizing electo-magnetic radiation. If you're so concerned about getting irradiated, never go in the sun again because it is giving you ionizing radiation, and cancer.
Oh well, nuclear. I mean, we already have influencers. Something less bad than that, such as nuclear accidents is kind of like a point we've already passed. 😉
@@Hellsong89 I got a little Geiger counter off of Amazon. Best 100 bucks I ever spent. The only thing it doesn´t measure is FUN. And alpha lol. I wouldn´t worry about phones and stuff though. I have alot of uranium glass and radium clocks, and my levels are still at normal background.
One thing to take into consideration while reverse-searching an image, is that most types of changes done to an image will make it impossible to find the original source. Sometimes, cropping an image, reducing its resolution, size, or changing its orientation or mirroring it, will give you 0 results after. As much I'm glad the video is indeed fake, I also found funny to consider that you had to learn about pony play :p
I'm not afraid of the radiation. If it kills me it kills me. I'm afraid of what happens if Kyle joins such a fetish group and decides we need to be involved too.
only issue i'm having with this is that he completely passes over the fact that the original tumblr post stated that the twitter account was fake and not him
@@jeffreykirkley6475 the problem is, orphan sources so abandoned by death makes that form of death communicable, as others then expose themselves unknowingly.
Ok so a friend of mine worked at the surplus department at a local state university. In the 10 or so years he was there at least three times orphan sources nearly made it up for sale to the general public and had to be collected by a special hazmat team. It is absolutely possible that a source could have made it to a flea market.
hi! surgical tech here! skin grafting isn't usually that perfectly rectangular, this looks more like a donor site rather than a recipient site. the rectangular shape comes from the dermatome which is a straight blade and would explain the shape. also, recipient sites would have a "fish net" appearance to them for recipient sites even when healed it is still noticeable in majority of scarring
It is a donor site. That photo is from a phalloplasty, revealed by the OP going on to talk about a "mystery surgery" that "41%" of people dont survive. The OP is a transphobic POS, and the whole "41%" is the sewer slide rate of trans people. OP is just trying to fear monger about Gender-Affirming care, and used the radiation thing to try and scare people.
it's definitely a phalloplasty donor site. i'm not a surgeon or anything but i am a trans man that's spent hours looking at pictures of scars just like that one.
@@joe____apparently his account was found to be filled with anti-lgbtq content, so i’m guessing it was someone else’s phalloplasty scars and he used it in order to show the “horrors” of gender affirming surgery by passing it off as a surgery necessitated by a radioactive injury
As someone who has studied and worked in the nuclear field as a technician for the last 5 years I greatly appreciate the care and respect for this topic Kyle never shys away from the very real danger of nuclear radiation and really gives it everything he has to explain the subject and report on its largest problems it may not get as many views as his old pop culture videos but it's something he's truly passionate about and it shows.
This is actual investigative journalism in the modern era. Kyle, you have once again outdone yourself and set a new standard for RU-vid creators. This is exactly the type of content I wish more people took the care and effort to create.
I work in mineral exploration so I get the occasional safety notice when someone misplaces something radioactive (usually it gets found fairly quickly or is too low level to easily find) there have been a few concerning incidents where density tools and moisture gages with intense neutron sources in them have been stolen. One got pinched out of a truck relatively near where I live back in 2019 and as far as I know hasn’t been found.
Hey, I'm in this video! I'm so honored to have been included and possibly of help. Thanks so much for including my Reddit comment, Kyle! Means a lot to me!
I live near Goiânia, people are still very paranoid about radiation here. Some old people are really afraid that cellphones, AA batteries or wi-fi might kill them of radiation. And every now and then there is some vengeful ex-wife who calls the police saying that her husband has a cesium 137 capsule hidden in the yard and the whole state screams.
This kind of irrational fear and ignorance is probably a worse killer than ionizing radiation itself. Yes, ionizing radiation is dangerous, as is the UV light from the sun (which is _not_ ionizing). Flying is also inherently dangerous, and most people do not know how to pilot or build an air plane, yet many people fly every day without fear because the dangers are controlled. The radiation from your radiators at home that keeps you warm in the winter is not dangerous.
Ive got to say. One if the most terrifying sounds in existence would have to be a geiger counter. Just the thought of something invisible slowly killing me is insane. this is something that I think of in my nightmares.
An even spookier way of thinking about it is something is slowly lighting a fire in your body that will only go out long after you've burned to death on a cellular level.
More terrifying is the fact that there's a clear, audible point where you know the geiger counter has confirmed you've been exposed to a fatal dose. Just the idea of there being a noise frequency or speed that can basically tell you "Yep, you're fucked" is horrifying.
It seems that if or when a real incident of severe Cs-137 exposure actually does appear on our video feeds, it will be obvious there is a big health issue ensuing. Also, the substance producing it may be more identifiable than it appeared in the original fetish video. Cs-137, for one, has known properties and one of them, according to the EPA, is that it combines with chlorine to a white crystalline salty powder; another, that in its elemental state, it's a liquid at room temperature, so it could be confused with mercury. Typically, in the form it's used industrially and in medicine, it's in the salt powder form that is mixed with a ceramic into a very small capsule (8mm by 6mm) so that it doesn't get distributed into air or water as a particulate. But, the capsule itself is absolutely not to be handled without shielding around it, provided by a thick steel container that should be used to enclose it. Handling it unshielded produces burns due to intense gamma radiation as well as beta particles, and exposure within even a meter can lead to profound radiation sickness.
I love that you managed to get to the bottom of this. Most people would probably come to a realization of "What am I doing, it's just a meme", but you documented the entire story. Love your videos
@@sonia625Yeah really, from the way the guy talked “41% don’t make it long term. Not sure what that means lol” like obviously anyone would know what that means. Guy was such an obvious troll. Not to mention the nuclear physics expert that said it didn’t make sense from the video. I don’t know how qualified this friend of his he called is if he doesn’t even know gamma radiation passes through hands very easily.
The scar on that person's arm is consistent from a donor site from a phalloplasy surgery, and you can find example images of like those on surgeon's sites that will not show up on Google image search because they are kept behind certain automation checks.
I love to learn but I shouldn't have googled that seeing as I figured out what phalloplasty was from it's root words. Now I am very confused. Maybe this video is real and this guy really is a dumb ass who lost his little buddy in a similarly poorly thought out prank.
@@AcidGambit419it can be for that, as it used to be used for vets who lost their bits in a war, but now it's widely used by trans masculine people as part of gender/sex reassignment surgery.
When people say "I wasn't ready for the journey this would take me" I usually pass it off as exaggeration but I can say that this was a crazy rollercoaster of a ride
Reminded me of hbomberguy research videos regarding people... You are 15 minutes in and by the time he finishes you are like, "Yup, did not see that coming."
The letter in plain sight. "Rye Pony" is smart and snarky, with STEM background and specialized knowledge. I have a few hypotheses about who they could be but I won't say a goddamn word. It's so much funnier this way. Plus, if I'm right, I respect that person 1000× more.
They're usually found in abandoned healthcare facilities from x-ray or other medical equipment, or in sterilization plants that radio-sterilize medical equipment and lab equipment. You might see on a sterile scalpel, gauze, or other disposable sterile object: sterilized by gamma radiation, or something to that effect. The first time I read one of those I was genuinely a little spooked. I'm chronically ill and my mom is a retired RN, so it's not like I'm unfamiliar with healthcare, but wondering if something is safe to use after it has been irradiated is an uncomfortable feeling. I quickly shut down that inner voice by telling myself that if it were unsafe they wouldn't be packaged in bulk and used by the thousands, or more, every day, but not everyone thinks like that. I do like how completely thorough Kyle is and how good his research is. I haven't seen many content creators who are willing to take the extra time and energy to really get to the bottom of a topic. I think of it like using a rubber spatula to get every
I think that is my take on this whole thing too. Now no-one who has seen the meme and runs into a weird can like that that does weird things to electronics is going to be sticking their hand into it.
You probably wont even hear about most cases like that ever. Just look at the former Soviet Union for example. A lot of facilities were straight up abandoned after the fall and because many documents from that time were purposefully destroyed, the successor governments might not even know what is around their country. We know that the US has lost a bunch of nuclear warheads over the years and most of them were never rediscovered. We almost know nothing about how many the soviet union lost because the data was destroyed, but it is certain that they lost way more in the chaos of the collapse of the USSR.
@@bomber9912 Oh I well remember that right after the fall there was a LOT of concern over rogue nations and/or terrorist groups making off with nuclear warheads (or former Soviet soldiers/officers selling them to make money before fleeing the country)
It reminds me about those videos where someone had "holes" in their finger, and for some reason the doctor called the police, trying to drum up drama. Long story shot, it was fake, the pictures used were easy to tell that they were photoshopped.
I’m also conflicted by this. It’s good to bring attention of orphaned sources and have people informed to be careful about random warm capsules. But on the other hand, faking something like this is also kind of concerning, and some idiot may just try to find an actual orphaned source to get a chance to go viral. Thanks for covering this.
On the plus side, this isn't like Tide Pods where it's an object that is well-known and normalized. This is something where you either have no idea what it is or you previously had no idea what it was and then found out that messing with it can cause you to die an excruciating death with absolutely no warning. It passes that threshold of "definitely not to be fucked with" so that the only people messing with it probably don't know what it is to begin with.
Orphan sources can be scarily “easy” to come by. Most of what I’ve read on radiological accidents origin from salvaging X-Ray equipment. That and to stay away from vintage glow watch hands
Experts aren't perfect either. And even in their field of expertise, they don't always know everything related to it. I certainly don't fault him for not knowing the effects of radiation on camera sensors.
(taking this from another commenter) The 2nd guy worked at Chernobyl, where it's the case of "when in doubt, consider it radioactive to be safe". Additionally, (according to another commenter), a sniff test could just mean further investigation is needed to determine if it is radioactive or not. So in a way, that response makes sense.
Also the source is not really well identified. So it could be any number of different sources that emit different forms of radiation. It was convincing enough to elicit concerns and a full video about it.
From my perspective, Lucas erred on the side of caution. Also, even Kyle doubted if the static filter was fake or not and had to check with a researcher specialized on that exact topic to verify. On top of that, Rye did have knowledge of how an orphan source looks like and made a good enough replica (that fooled a couple hundred people, including Lucas and Kyle) and showed a geiger counter to add credibility to the video (though they admitted they faked the measurement with a sleight of hand).
My experience is that film grain from hot gas looks like the film grain seen here, whereas film grain from radiation often looks like bright white sparkles appearing randomly. Phones can actually detect the very weak radiation sources of smoke detectors or being on an airliner as long as the camera is 100% blacked out.
I'd never heard of this before. I'm glad you did the deep dive into it and got to the bottom of it. Anything radioactive out in the wild scares me to my core. Thanks for all you do man.
As much as I like the gimmick of having Aria the AI in the typical video, i really feel like this video is the way forward as the format i prefer. Just kyle and a topic in a documentary style is what I crave now.
@@brandonthomas6862 For real, don't know why we can't just have both formats of videos. He's gonna keep doing fun dorky science videos and Aria is a nice component for those styles of videos. But of course a documentary style video about a serious topic like the dangers of radiation should take itself more seriously. We can always have both, folks.
At least the real people who died in the criticality accidents with the Demon core both knew very well that what they were doing was highly dangerous, especially Slotin, who deliberately ignored the protocol of having the shims in between the two halves to prevent the possibility of the core going critical again. And even after all the people in the room saw the blue flash and ran out, after he flipped the top half away, he made them come back and mark with chalk on the floor exactly where they had been standing so that the doctors would know what parts of their bodies had absorbed the most ionizing radiation. those people were not ignorant of the dangers they were working with. That's why demon core memes are reasonably okay, to me, but also if i had anyone i knew involved in something like the Goiana accident i probably wouldn't think jokes about finding "funny blue glowing sand" were very funny.
I think that's one of the reasons the demon core story sounds so wild - the two men who died weren't unsuspecting victims, they both were in a position where they knew what they were doing and absolutely SHOULD have known better. The Goiânia accident is just all-around tragic. It's a cautionary tale, not a story you'd roll your eyes about.
funny, this video - along with a reddit thread about someone finding out their roommate had a radium collection - were what gave me an anxiety spiral that in the end made me start to binge your content. The thought that there are just orphan sources out there in the world - hell, just radioactive stuff in general like old wrist watches - that I could come across and not realize it until I suddenly fall ill is absolutely terrifying.
That sort of anciety is unhealthy, and I ask that you consider seeking help to manage it. With that sai, geiger counters can be purchased online relatively cheaply and easily, and may help show you that your local environment is pretty safe.
@@LordPhobos6502 To be clear, it's not an every day occurance that I get anxiety spirals that severe. It was just one of those days where existential dread got to me.
If small and properly stored and not just randomly sitting in the open on a shelf that is probably not particularly dangerous. I have a little Ra-226 sample myself in a little glass box which blocks pretty much all of the radiation from it. When touching the outside of the box the reading is around 10% above background so unless you were to glue it to your skin for decades you would be hard pressed to notice any difference. Taken out of the box it is significantly higher but this is why I keep it in there where I can still have it on display but without irradiating the place any more than having an ionising smoke detector in the room would.
@@seraphina985 I think personally I still wouldn't consider starting a collection of my own xD Sadly though, according to the redditor, her roommate was a dumbass that didn't keep his collection contained, and it resulted in radiation of 224 pCi/l in the apartment's main room, over 500 pCi/l in her bedroom, and most likely had radon gas that traveled through the entire complex. The post is still up on r/legaladvice, it's titled "[Wyoming] Roommate exposed us to toxic radon gas, what can I do legally?"
i ve read about a whole nuclear bomb carried by a plane that crashed in some southeast part of Usa and didn't detonate... the worrying part is that it was never found
I read a mystery book where Ir-192 was the murder weapon and the description of the autopsy and what happened to the coroner was visceral and disturbing and really made me frightened of radiological sources. Before that book I didnt truly appreciate how dangerous radiation was. The name of the book is Bones of Betrayal by Jefferson Bass for reference
I was very suspicious of the, "my doc told me that 41% of people don't make it long term, but idk what he meant" comment. Would a doctor be so vague about something really serious? Would you not ask a follow up question? Doubtful.
The account is from a terf making jokes about a minority, the 41% comes from an outdated paper that claimed that 41% of trans people attempt suicide, bigots took it and joke about how 41% of trans people *will* commit suicide
The surgery pictures are actually pictures from after a phalloplasty surgery done on a ftm. The "41% of people don't make it long term" is in reference to transgender suicide rates.
fr, this video could have been 30 seconds had he not wanted to pass all the time he wasted to conclude was everyone already knew onto us "is this video fake?" "well I found the original post and they said it was"
@@Sarcastitonea Did TikTok rot your brain so badly that you'd believe anything people say online without explanations? The detailed process of his research with the proof that what he is saying is true, is exactly what makes the video so interesting to watch. The only way to condense it down into 30 seconds is by leaving out the most interesting parts. Is this video fake? - "It's fake cause this person said so" - Okay, who is that person? - "They're the original poster" - How do we know they are the original poster? - "Their ponyplay account was the first source of the video I found" - How did you find it? - "I reverse image searched an iFunny post" - Why did you reverse image search that? - and so on and forth. By the time you actually properly prove all your claims, you have an entire video again.
@@joao34386 Did TikTok rot your brain so bad that you need every obvious faked video explained into miniscule details? There was never arguing about the fact that this video is a fake. It was bait and idiots like you obviously fell for it and now you need some kind of explanation to feel better about yourself because you feel like a complete idiot. The video above is even worse than the faked video. Because Kyle hill knows that the video is faked but refuses to acknowledge that up until almost the end of the video.
This video doubles not just as an interesting dive in nuclear accidents but also how social media and virality works. In almost every case of something that has gone viral, the most highlihted source of being the origin of the viral media often isn't and has just taken it from somewhere else. I've seen this myself browsing Reddit regularly, sometimes you'll have a really viral post and it be something you saw weeks, months sometimes years ago and you'll wonder if its a weird sense of dejavu or whether you had in fact seen it before. The internet is timeless and old creations are viewed afresh all the time, all it takes is someone to find something, and post it in another place at another time for it to blow up. It's not like they would even necessarily have to take a creation from some small corner of niche of the internet, something can be posted to an extremely popular page but if its done so at the wrong time of day or with the wrong title it just won't gain the same amount of traction. Thinking about all the most popular meme formats with pictures of people, in most cases it's not the person taking the picture that ever circulated it publicly, they only shared it amongst a smaller group of peers such as friends and family but then from there it spread. Imagine waking up one day to see a picture of you pulling a funny face is now everywhere on the internet. A testement to how nothing is truly private if it exists on the internet.
Oh I absolutely get that feeling. So many memes and trends feel to me like I saw them before like 8 years ago and now suddenly it just gained traction.
And unfortunately, as was the case here, that effect causes the viral content in question to loose it's vital surrounding context. I think the OP here did nothing wrong because they clarified that it was fake and didn't go around deleting accounts, etc. As far as we know they aren't the one who pretended to have a skin graft from it either. So all of this is caused by loosing the original context, which takes this from a silly thing that helps spread some nuclear safety education, to an ethically questionable viral scare. The context is vital here.
It's certainly not universal to all social media, depends on the opinion the designer of a specific media holds with respect to repost culture. Websites like Pixiv and Japanese side of Twitter has extremely high concentration of OCs, while it is much closer to zero on others like the global Twitter, all of Facebook, Reddit and 5ch.
I had a dream a year or two ago where I was exposed to a bunch of radiation in a lab (possibly directly due to watching your videos), but I remember when it happened, my brain interpreted the exposure as looking and, somehow, the feeling of TV static.
Only the camera will have this static effect, you would not see or feel anything. That's why it's so dangerous. If the radiation is so strong that you can actually feel it, you're pretty much dead...
Yeah, high level exposure is said to produce a "pins & needles" sensation and is associated with the smell of ionized air (similar to the smell after any high current electrical discharge or right before a thunderstorm).
@@dark2023-1lovesoni I agree, but we should be aware about what doses we are talking here. This is pretty much like talking about cyanide poisoning were 100 mg can be deadly but we talk about 1 million times that dose where we could argue that 100 kg of cyanide can crush your legs. It's all true but nobody should think that exposure to radiation is harmless unless they get the feeling of pins & needles. If you count all cases where radiation lead to health problems, it might be 1 person in a million who actually "felt the radiation" and these are all crazy accidents.
@pykapuka Obviously, this only occurs in extremely high accute exposure incidents, but it IS a real life recorded phenomenon (mentioned by Louis Slotin and others). Ionizing radiation exposure is arguably somewhat comparable to heavy metal ingestion. While high instantaneous doses are rare, it CAN accumulate over time if you keep getting re-exposed regularly.
I feel like any question of "Why would someone commit to hard to a joke for reason?" should have ended the instant the fact it was posted on tumblr was mentioned. The website is entirely known for committing to the bit (to the point of collectively inventing the hit movie Goncherov). This is also the same website where someone pretend to be a native American with aids to excuse writing a Hamilton aids fanfiction
It doesn't hurt that living in the UK, there are often stories of people finding old ww2 munitions and so many stories from France and Germany of ww1 and 2 being found, or posted online, that it made it seem very believable to me that it would end up online. And I know just enough about radiation (thanks Kyle) that I literally froze up and wanted to run seeing the video at the start, so I didn't really think about the gamma ray hand thing until you mentioned it. That knee-jerk reaction helps the fake seem real. Very glad it wasn't. This time.
While pretty much each and everyone knows how a bomb or a grenade looks, fairly few people have an idea about containers or devices which contain(ed) radioactive material. But to be honest, there are enough individuals who play with UXOs and know what they are.
@@statementleaver8095 I wasn't taught much about her work, though yes I know of it now. I was more thanking Kyle for presenting it all in a way that means I actually retained the information
@@Jplays23 Well I don't mean to jump on the lad for his incorrect research laeding to the Title. Cesium is a Medical grade Radioactive source Nuclear is Uranium and Plutonium radioactive sources Nuclear accident is the wrong terminology = Just Radioactive poisoning. Nuclear radiation requires Water to neutralize the Threat Cesium requires Lead (Gamma) 👍
When someone said that the injury was scarring from a phalloplasty and you take that mindset and read the message from the way back machine, it makes sense that it’s a hoax.
I used to work in the nuclear field, my company built high purity germanium radiation detectors, among other types on detectors. We had a source that was so strong you weren't allowed in the same room when the shutters were open on the shield. It was in a small room with shielded walls. When you tested something you put it inside the room, went outside, and used an electronic shutter to expose part of the source. When that source was used sometimes other people testing detectors would pick it up, fairly far away.
@@mattchu42069 It was a neutron source. Neutron radiation penetrates solid objects much more efficiently than alpha or gamma radiation sources do. For reference I was building and testing a helium 3 tube based neutron detector and picked it up about 500 feet away. So much so that I had to stop my testing whenever they opened the shutters on the shield. Even with the shield closed, if I ran a long background test it would still show up even though the shield was closed, albeit at a very low rate. Also being a neutron radiation source, not all detectors will pick it up, germanium detectors for example, do not pick up neutron radiation. Helium 3 is one of the few, and best types of neutron detectors. Being that helium 3 is very rare and not produced in mass today, its extremely expensive.
@@mattchu42069 Radiation shielding works on an exponential factor and some detectors are quite sensitive. It is so common that cat litter sets off radiation screeners that there has to be special consideration. We have set ours so sensitive to protect our workers that we can detect the lowest class of radiation shipment from 40 ft away.
It does increase awareness. That being said, delivery of information through memes can go wrong as well. While most people are probably wise enough to not mess with radioactivity, there's still a percentage of people who could disregard it. If we take Chernobyl's tourism , as an example. It could mean that we're not exactly in the clear. The good news is that radioactive sources are relatively uncommon to obtain compared to tide pods. My biggest concern however, is if we get more believable videos like this. There could be a bunch of false alarms toward radioactive sources.
I actually really agree with Rye Pony that the joke _was_ in fact pretty harmless, and it did actually bring a lot of attention to the danger of orphaned sources.
I agree as well and from seeing the examples of actual radiation grain in cameras I think to most people that would actually investigate it from a knowledgeable standpoint they would quickly see that it’s fake. His nuclear expert friend is probably not an expert on how it interacts with cameras like the other guy was.
While it brings attention to the potential problem of orphaned sources, it also motivates people to both be careless with radioactive material and to post fake videos. So, harmless is the wrong word. Fake videos are never a good idea especially not about very serious things like radioactive material.
@@joeferreti9442 Not seeing the 'motivation' you speak of; Motivation would be; "Radiation exposure is a happy-fun time' Not an enactment of the misery that would ACTUALLY ensue. This serves as public awareness in EXACTLY the same way as old 'Health and safety' commercials in the 'eighties; Those werent actually letting people fall thru unmarked construction excavations, or getting blinded with random metal chips due to lack of PPE; they were acting it out the worst scenario, creating the awareness, which is EXACTLY what this achieves, intended or not. The only difference here was the lack of big money behind it. In a VERY backhanded way, its a little inspiring.
@@joeferreti9442 People are going to eat Tide pods no matter what you do so why are we here? Should other people have to take responsibility for the idiocy of others? This is my biggest question to the modern state of this type of thing... I don't think so. I do not believe the world should be "baby proofed" with rounded corners and padded floors etc. If I decided to take a video of me walking on a bed of coals am I then responsible if despite warnings and obvious dangers someone decides they too should do it and they get seriously hurt? No not in my opinion that person is at fault for their own stupidity. This is not to say there is not a responsibility to put these types of things into perspective, but I have a hard time seeing how this would cause any one to go "Oh yeah getting serious radiation burns and dying very slowly and painfully sounds like a GOOOD IDEA!" And if it does how could such idiocy be anyone's fault but the idiot's?
The very fact that the film grain stops when he puts his hand over it means it's at most beta radiation, more likely alpha radiation, which is entirely harmless unless ingested Beta can pass through skin, but doesn't go deeply into a hand, would also be stopped though. The fact it's going through the hand instantly discounts it from being gamma radiation Edit - ah, you covered this
Beta is still a dose hazard to extremities. It has enough energy to cause cataracts, tissue damage, and burns. Its not as lethal hazard as gamma as far as actually directly harming someone goes but you can still sustain very serious injuries from a high activity beta source.
@@richardhead1848 What got me to realize it was fake is that the grain on the camera and closing/opening the lid don't really match up that well. The grain stops shortly before the lid gets closed a few times. But as Pony wrote, he didn't want to spend more than 10 minutes on this, so yes, that's understandable.
Hi Kyle! Did you ever ask Rye if anyone from the USNRC reached out to them? If there ever is a truly viral internet orphan source situation, will they, or their counterparts in other countries take it seriously enough to investigate it?
I doubt it. I feel a nuclear regulation agency has a lot better sources (medical records, inspections at flea markets, etc...) than a funny video on the internet. Yeah, it might raise a few eyebrows but I don't think they'd pay much attention to it considering that if it was real they'd definitely know about it from other sources (again reports by doctors and possible damage to people living around them). Also, as was mentioned in the video, if it was real people would definitely gotten hurt in that flea market. Which would be another call to attention. It might be that Rye was contacted but I doubt any agency took it seriously.
They wouldn't need to. If someone actually did that, there would be a lot more evidence than "hehe phone blur". They'd be dying agonisingly in a hospital.
Also, I read about how the Kodak company accidentally discovered the Manhattan project because the radiation in the atmosphere affected photographic film all over the world causing the same grainy distortions.
@@raffaeledivora9517 And it was just from facilities making the paper that goes between film slides out of recycled paper shreds FROM the Manhattan project finding they damaged the film over time. They asked if they should know about some X-ray-emitting stuff the government was working with near their paper before recycling it, and the government realized to watch their garbage disposal to keep radioactive material out of the recycling. Not anything to do with the atmosphere.
This is wild, I've been following their twitter for about a year, and remember seeing the original video when it was first posted - never saw any of the reposts. Had a grin the whole video knowing exactly where it was going, thanks for wedging a hint of humour into such a strange situation.
If you three above are really this sensitive, I don't know how you sat through the video. I assure you there are greater horrors in the world than people dressing up a little funny to get their kicks.
The 41% comment at 10:14 is in reference to the 41% meme, which is a derogatory meme towards trans people referencing rates of suicide among that group. The fact that the poster included that in references to surgery and was already suspended for hateful rhetoric makes me pretty confident that he's memeing in the followup posts.
10:05 "Why would this user go through the trouble of posting about an injury again to almost nobody" - because it's not a real injury and the post doesn't even try to hide how fake it is. The "looking like a freak for the rest of my life" and "about 41% of people that go through this surgery don't make it long term" isn't medical information, it's a joke about trans suicide.
Also the 'i dont know what it means, but it doesn't sound good' after the '41% of the people that go through this surgery dont make it long term' makes it pretty obvious that its fake
