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Did Giorgos Bartzokas Just Crack the Panathinaikos Code? 

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@BasketHead
@BasketHead 6 месяцев назад
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@OneOfTheSmurfs
@OneOfTheSmurfs 6 месяцев назад
Really like how Wright's contribution was so raw that the only analysis needed is just a highlights reel. Sometimes bball can be as simple as getting the ball and putting it in the basket.
@BasketHead
@BasketHead 6 месяцев назад
I did it like a highlights video because the video was about defense. But I sort of agree in the second part of your comment. It's a good idea btw to make a video about Wright, and how he transformed Oly ;)
@OneOfTheSmurfs
@OneOfTheSmurfs 6 месяцев назад
@@BasketHead Yeah I was kiiiind of joking with my comment. But I also think Oly is playing a much simpler version of their basketball when Wright is on the floor. Simple PnRs and high-low passes. And the reason probably is a combination of Wright's immense offensive talent and the lack of time to learn the team's more complicated plays. Shows how coach B can adjust his philosophy to fit the player.
@nikosatsaves3141
@nikosatsaves3141 6 месяцев назад
Things tend to get easier when the defendant is a mockery of a player aka lessor.
@TheThrilos1
@TheThrilos1 6 месяцев назад
I don't know if Olympiakos will be able to take eventually the home advantage. The only thing I know is that no one wants to confront Olympiakos in the playoffs with or without home advantage.
@eylemsezerturedi5021
@eylemsezerturedi5021 6 месяцев назад
I to be fener fans and agree
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
@NikosNikos-dr7wv 6 месяцев назад
Who told you that?
@georgeantonopoulos8915
@georgeantonopoulos8915 3 месяца назад
Yeah sure
@procrustes7669
@procrustes7669 6 месяцев назад
Coach B the Chess player.
@stathisphangan
@stathisphangan Месяц назад
Coach B the sausage taker
@johnnytifosi
@johnnytifosi 6 месяцев назад
Implying there is any code to crack in Ataman's teams. He is just relying on his star guards' iso plays to save his ass
@dimitris.t1130
@dimitris.t1130 6 месяцев назад
My man its easy to think like that but he has already two EUROLEAGUES.
@diogrigor
@diogrigor 6 месяцев назад
Said the "ultimate coach", I presume?
@rackhir100
@rackhir100 6 месяцев назад
While oly's 71 points in a home game was a masterclass?
@ΛευτερηςΚαμμενος-ξ7ξ
@ΛευτερηςΚαμμενος-ξ7ξ 6 месяцев назад
@@dimitris.t1130 He got 2 euroleagues on a time were even Real Madrid were on a bit of a down fall for some time he had Misic and Larkin bombing 3 points from even their homes living room after that everyone knew how to counter his 2 star players and Efes downfall began so and with Panathinaikos everyone knows his tactic the ball to Nun for quick easy points if not to Grigonis or Mhtoglou for 3 points
@ΛευτερηςΚαμμενος-ξ7ξ
@ΛευτερηςΚαμμενος-ξ7ξ 6 месяцев назад
@@rackhir100 considering olympiacos plays a passive passing game that involves all 5 players in the court to cooperate and score instead of just throwing 3 points then and there like other teams do(Monaco-Efes-Real Madrid) Yes 71 points was a masterclass
@stevekesedakisstormchasing7031
@stevekesedakisstormchasing7031 6 месяцев назад
Coach Bartzokas is a basketball genius
@stevekesedakisstormchasing7031
@stevekesedakisstormchasing7031 6 месяцев назад
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv lol that has nothing to do with him being a great coach
@GRIGOROS75
@GRIGOROS75 6 месяцев назад
Not cursing as much as Obrandovic, not getting close to the angry and upset melange Obrandovic.
@fingertrick_7
@fingertrick_7 6 месяцев назад
Coach B...The best coach in Europe in recent years 👏💪
@stathisphangan
@stathisphangan Месяц назад
One coach has 3 titles the recent years and the other 0. If you think the one with 0 titles the recent years is better dont.make dreams about your life. You are terrible in making decisions.
@Eleu8erios
@Eleu8erios 6 месяцев назад
Bartzokas masterclass! ❤❤❤
@stavrospapadopoulos6333
@stavrospapadopoulos6333 6 месяцев назад
Great insights mate. That kind of videos make me appreciate Ataman's work even more. It's rather than easy to beat Coach B and this Olympiacos team. Especially on the road. Keep up the good work!
@stri2003
@stri2003 6 месяцев назад
Good analysis!
@HGL-iq4qg
@HGL-iq4qg 6 месяцев назад
Subbed because you get into tactics and strategy and this all about European basketball !!
@MegasSalavatis
@MegasSalavatis 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it s a really complicated code. It goes like this "let s play iso with Nunn half possessions and the other half play pick n roll with Grant while Nunn looks around taking a rest and hope for the best".
@BasketHead
@BasketHead 6 месяцев назад
You oversimplify things mate. If it was that simple, Pana would have 10 wins so far instead of being tied with Oly.
@OlympiacosForever
@OlympiacosForever 6 месяцев назад
@@BasketHeadNope man. That’s literally what they’ve been doing from the beginning of the season till now. Lessor sets a screen for Nun, so that he can get an open three pointer and shoot it, every single time. Otherwise they will play iso with nun.They’ve been lucky so far that neither lessor nor nun have been seriously injured. When this happens, their season is over. Olympiacos has had many serious injuries throughout this season. They learnt how to survive in difficult situations and that’s what made them stronger. I am telling you, it’s our turn to raise the euroleague trophy!
@Kapito13
@Kapito13 6 месяцев назад
​@OlympiacosForever If its that easy you can always go coach a Euroleague team.
@georgeantonopoulos8915
@georgeantonopoulos8915 3 месяца назад
@@OlympiacosForeverof course it was your turn but pana came along your way to smash you 😂
@tranos28
@tranos28 6 месяцев назад
It is so easy for the best coach the last 2 years in Euroleague to stop pick and roll and iso game. Pao doesn't have another plan at offense. Piece of cake for coach bartzokas
@georgeantonopoulos8915
@georgeantonopoulos8915 3 месяца назад
Yeah it was a piece of cake 😂
@dimigaro6878
@dimigaro6878 6 месяцев назад
1Olympiacos could (and should) have won much more easily if a) the open looks in the 3rd quarter would have dropped to increase the lead b) Nunn and a couple of other players didn't score some crazy circus shots that kept them in the game (thinking for example a Papapetrou shot off the glass or Sloukas attempt through a block from Peters etc) Specifically the momentum of the 3rd quarter was for a 10+ point lead for Oly but Nunn's crazy 3+1 play made it a close game again out of nowhere. In the previous minutes Oly missed open 3s with Canaan and some easy baskets (that would have also been +1) from Petrusev and Fall. But that's how basketball is, especially in derbies. Small moments can decide the whole game
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 6 месяцев назад
Can say the same as a Panathinaikos fan though. Our players also missed wide open shots, they also had the momentum in the first half and If they were not so careless with the ball they would've had a big lead in the half. Panathinaikos could have won this game If a couple of shots would have gone in in the last minutes of the 4th, but that's basketball.
@emilio9350
@emilio9350 6 месяцев назад
Yeah no shit, had Nunn been more careful with passing, had Grigonis hit the open looks and had Lessort played better defense, Panathinaikos would have won. WTF logic is that?
@dimigaro6878
@dimigaro6878 6 месяцев назад
@@emilio9350 No I am not talking hypothetically, the shots were there, they simply didn't go in. Pana after the 1st quarter scored almost exclusively on 1on1 situations and with hard shots. Agreed that Grigonis missed some open looks too though. The important part was the momentum of the game which was leading to an easy Oly win until Nunn scored a couple of crazy shots. Anyways
@thanasismrs8291
@thanasismrs8291 6 месяцев назад
the funny part is that olympiacos's code and playing style is so obvious but somehow nobody can crack it
@Mauros-Lykos
@Mauros-Lykos 6 месяцев назад
We have been cracking the green caterpillars shell over and over again…
@Kapito13
@Kapito13 6 месяцев назад
Get help πιθηκε
@Mastakounas13
@Mastakounas13 6 месяцев назад
Hand checking and hand checking and more hand checking alongside with elbows and the famous ref immunity . A great decoding of Atamans system indeed !
@dalaraz1
@dalaraz1 6 месяцев назад
by that zoom i just figured out he kinda fouls the defender in every attack lol,he is way too aggressive with hands
@KleinwSpitia
@KleinwSpitia 6 месяцев назад
Refs loves Walkup
@innosanto
@innosanto 6 месяцев назад
The fans were alot of energy.
@alextee2684
@alextee2684 6 месяцев назад
YOU DO GREAT JOB I SHARED IT ON FB
@gregmak8274
@gregmak8274 6 месяцев назад
great job
@ΦραγκούληςΠέτρος
@ΦραγκούληςΠέτρος 6 месяцев назад
This is the second derby within a month with a very similar scenario: PAO forcing early turnovers and getting a lead, Olympiacos recovering despite horrible shooting, hitting PAO in the paint, getting a lot of transition points and Wright sealing the game in the final minutes. From a tactical perspectice Olympiacos are one step ahead right now, but we are all expecting Ataman to come up with some response rather sooner than later
@PinkHammerFish
@PinkHammerFish 6 месяцев назад
Is it possible to compare this game to the two games in ESAKE as Panathinaikos won both of them, but PAOBC posted a long declaration after the second one about the (Greek) referees?
@pearlhitman6954
@pearlhitman6954 6 месяцев назад
tbh it was more an Ataman fault than a Bartzokas mastermind
@poppycalliope6793
@poppycalliope6793 6 месяцев назад
Give credit where credit is due, otherwise you are simply in denial.
@diogrigor
@diogrigor 6 месяцев назад
Could not agree more. Coach Ataman failed to adjust.
@θρυλεμουηζωη
@θρυλεμουηζωη 6 месяцев назад
we cracked the code my brother, easier than taking candy from a baby. OLYMPIAKOS 7
@takistsoukas5419
@takistsoukas5419 6 месяцев назад
Ότι θες λες μεγάλε... Με 18 λάθη ο Παναθηναϊκός και κέρδισες με διαφορά 1-2 σουτ...κι αν σφυραγαν όπως πρέπει θα έχανες...αφήσαν το ξύλο στην άμυνα και κέρδισες
@takistsoukas5419
@takistsoukas5419 6 месяцев назад
Ότι θες λες μεγάλε... Με 18 λάθη ο Παναθηναϊκός και κέρδισες με διαφορά 1-2 σουτ...κι αν σφυραγαν όπως πρέπει θα έχανες...αφήσαν το ξύλο στην άμυνα και κέρδισες...για ποιους κωδικούς μας λες;
@Dwell123
@Dwell123 6 месяцев назад
​@@takistsoukas5419prepei na eisai xazos gia na mhn katalaveineis oti eprepe na eixes xasei gia toulaxiston 10 kai pontous.hmastan astoxoi gis auto kai h mikrh diafora alla amuntika sas kseftilhsame kai gia auto phrame to mats
@tunasozer
@tunasozer 6 месяцев назад
Basketball quality and tactial details reached the top after the break in EL. This bullshit annual schedule doesn't work. Let them teams train together man.
@rackhir100
@rackhir100 6 месяцев назад
Olympiakos defence intensity is always over that blurry line of a foul whistle. Mpartzokas is a really good coach and obviously has more than one plans. As long as the ref enable such a rough game, the result will be a 75-70 as final score. Whenever lessort was left with a forward after a switch he was being massively fouled, Moses wright was boxing him too. Many of olympiakos steals were the outcome of risky hands on the ball that mostly get called as fouls. Yet olympiakos won only by 6. After all there's the unwritten rule that that you can't do more than 22 fouls in a single game. Oly had 21.
@TMPOUZI
@TMPOUZI 6 месяцев назад
If EL was like NBA and everything was called, then Oly would have been a different team and Bartzokas would have had different game plans. But with ifs noone makes the right conclusions
@rackhir100
@rackhir100 6 месяцев назад
@@TMPOUZI I am not sure that what you are saying makes sense.Watching another euroleague's game. If you watch any other game by any other team you ll clearly see that olympiacos is playing amazing defense And that he is allowed a tougher game than any other team.
@TMPOUZI
@TMPOUZI 6 месяцев назад
@@rackhir100 well I don't see that. EL generally is a league where physical plays and especially borderline defence are allowed. Even NBA analysts say that. If your team is soft, it will meet its well-deserved fate
@rackhir100
@rackhir100 6 месяцев назад
@@TMPOUZI You scored 71 in a home game. Can anyone call that soft?
@TMPOUZI
@TMPOUZI 6 месяцев назад
@@rackhir100 no, because the other team scored 65
@georgepavlou1320
@georgepavlou1320 6 месяцев назад
Great analysis, as always. Allow me to say that more than half of the red steals and green turnovers are results from strong physical defence and non called fouls. This defence can be accepted by refs only when treated similarly on the other side of the court as well, which I didn’t see during P3 and especially crucial P4. Furthermore, Pana paid Grigonis’s bad day who lost important open shots and allowed oly defence to close inside and focus mostly on Nunn, Grigo with out any doubt, is a very important player for coach Ataman’s basic plays and offensive plan and his superior shooting ability from the perimeter was mostly needed.
@PersonaPrime
@PersonaPrime 6 месяцев назад
Womp womp classic crying about refs.
@spyrosspyropoulos4602
@spyrosspyropoulos4602 6 месяцев назад
@@PersonaPrime Why? its the truth...Basketball is not football...By the book of basketball laws, the defence olympiakos plays 60% of the games are fouls. You cant blame them though for playing like that. When you luck offensive talent, it is kinda natural to play hard defence in order to steal the game
@forgondor881
@forgondor881 6 месяцев назад
@@PersonaPrime If you see the part of the video with pao turnovers almost half of them were clear fouls...
@xristaras1312LFG
@xristaras1312LFG 6 месяцев назад
@@spyrosspyropoulos4602 Μην κλαίς Αγγελικούλα μου . Αρκετά φαουλ που κάνατε κι εσείς τα άφησαν , απλά σαν κλασικός βαζελος με αρνητικό iq βλέπεις μόνο τα δικά μας .
@TMPOUZI
@TMPOUZI 6 месяцев назад
@@forgondor881 no they weren't, all of them were clear deflections
@konstantinosstamos8967
@konstantinosstamos8967 6 месяцев назад
You must come to oaka the atmosphere is much better than peace and friendship stadium
@GreenMarkoulis13
@GreenMarkoulis13 6 месяцев назад
Yeah he did, just make fouls in every defence, and hope referees call out half of them at most.
@nikosatsaves3141
@nikosatsaves3141 6 месяцев назад
The same way Pao played against Paok. Hand or / and body contact in every possession.
@TheAnswer_13
@TheAnswer_13 6 месяцев назад
So many unforced turnovers and uncalled fouls...
@euaggelosdimitriadis3153
@euaggelosdimitriadis3153 6 месяцев назад
@takistsoukas5419
@takistsoukas5419 6 месяцев назад
Δύο είναι οι λόγοι που έχασε ο Παναθηναϊκός... Ο 1ος είναι η ανοχή των διαιτητών στο σκληρό ως αντιαθλητικο παιχνίδι του ολυμπιακού και ο 2ος ή εμμονές τού Αταμαν να μη χρησιμοποιεί παίκτες από τον πάγκο πού θα κέρδιζαν το παιχνίδι για μένα αν τούς έβαζε... Μίστερ δεν κερδίζεις αυτά τα παιχνίδια με 6 παίκτες
@ΛουκαςΚωτσιοπουλος
@ΛουκαςΚωτσιοπουλος 6 месяцев назад
6 > 3
@vaggelisk.5642
@vaggelisk.5642 6 месяцев назад
47 > 20
@itsspyyyy
@itsspyyyy 6 месяцев назад
Yeah but bartzokas didnt craked efes code😂
@BasketHead
@BasketHead 6 месяцев назад
Seems like the Efes code comes with extra encryption ;)
@itsspyyyy
@itsspyyyy 6 месяцев назад
@@BasketHead hehe
@Kapito13
@Kapito13 6 месяцев назад
Let's not exaggerate over such a close game. It could have gone any way.
@almatzayev
@almatzayev 6 месяцев назад
nope
@GRBandog
@GRBandog Месяц назад
That video did not age well Baskethead 😅😅😅😅😅😅
@BasketHead
@BasketHead Месяц назад
why so?
@GRBandog
@GRBandog Месяц назад
@@BasketHead Maybe because Panathinaikos did a reverse sweep on the "mighty" Bartzokas? nonetheless, it was exciting to see the "great chess master" getting hammered by Ergin & Co. 🤣🤣
@RainyJazz
@RainyJazz 6 месяцев назад
Nunn can't win Olympiacos alone.
@diogrigor
@diogrigor 6 месяцев назад
Ofc, Walkup's defense could not have been possible without the refs being generous, not calling a series of fouls he committed...
@TMPOUZI
@TMPOUZI 6 месяцев назад
I didn't see fouls, just strong defence
@diogrigor
@diogrigor 6 месяцев назад
@@TMPOUZI depends...i guess in the nfl those are not considered fouls...
@TMPOUZI
@TMPOUZI 6 месяцев назад
@@diogrigor if your team can't handle EL, let them withdraw
@diogrigor
@diogrigor 6 месяцев назад
@@TMPOUZI "my team"? Don't let the Greek overwhelm you...if you mean PAO, well, Real can verify what they can handle or not...one thing is sure: when the refs favor you and allow american football tactics in bball you can't do much
@GRIGOROS75
@GRIGOROS75 6 месяцев назад
Your team is playing just as hard defence, borderline fouling, and the refs are favoring Trakis' team, cause he spends money in every direction. Winning once Teal Madrid does not make you the best team in Europe. Getting in the final match after a whole season, after winning your opponents in the play-offs make you the best team. Any team can beat any team in one match, everybody knows that and admits that except if you are a toddler or a fanatic. American football tactics is your team's propaganda. Lose the green shades on your eyes, and enjoy basketball.
@NicolasAftias
@NicolasAftias 6 месяцев назад
cracked? Olympiakos have won like 22 out of 25 last games between them. Theres nothing to crack xD
@georgeantonopoulos8915
@georgeantonopoulos8915 3 месяца назад
Wow really? You must be so proud for your achievements this year. 🎉😂
@NicolasAftias
@NicolasAftias 3 месяца назад
@@georgeantonopoulos8915 of course more proud to win fair than winning rigged Euroleague 😂😂
@georgeantonopoulos8915
@georgeantonopoulos8915 3 месяца назад
@@NicolasAftias wow till last year wasn’t rigged. The last 12 years that all of you were mocking wasn’t rigged. But this year’s success was rigged according to Nicolas. Whatever fox can’t reach makes them hangers.
@thanell1373
@thanell1373 6 месяцев назад
Well I only see a nervous panathinaikos.. if they find their mentality at these derbies they are the superior team
@triumph19073
@triumph19073 6 месяцев назад
Perhaps you only see green. In Euroleague as well as the Greek Cup the better team won.
@thanell1373
@thanell1373 6 месяцев назад
@@triumph19073 oly won because pana played awful they get extra stressed against olympiakos even in the championship game were they played well and dominating they got extra stressed by the end it’s part of the game … but as a team pana has the superior players and coach
@triumph19073
@triumph19073 6 месяцев назад
@@thanell1373 That's only your opinion.Stress is not as important as you think. The Euroleague, Greek Cup, and Greek Super Cup results prove that Olympiacos has a better team than Panathinaikos. The opinion that Ataman is a better coach than Bartzokas can only be heard as a joke.
@thanell1373
@thanell1373 6 месяцев назад
@@triumph19073 stress and mentality has destroyed entire careers.. lesort in one match dominates Tavares and poirier and by stress only can’t play against wright who even his own mother doesn’t know him .. Ataman has taken a last place efes and taken back2back Euroleague and if the 2020 season was played out he would have done the three peat … what has bartzokas done ? A EuroLeague by a team created my Duda? And then he was chased in the parking lot of SEF and got fired he went in teams with huge budgets like khimki and Barca and was a failure…
@triumph19073
@triumph19073 6 месяцев назад
@@thanell1373 The Euroleague coaches have a lot better opinion on Bartzokas, and they have voted him best coach in the Euroleague. Of course, they know less than ThanoulisPetralona13 does. Wright destroyed Lessort, partially because he is a very good player and Bartzokas knows how to handle how long he can pay effectively. Your idol uses Lessort for 30+ minutes. Panathinaikos has an arrogant mentality, so his loss is inevitable. I don't care if you think Panathinaikos is the best team in the universe. I just laugh because you lack contact with reality!
@muhammetalparslan8498
@muhammetalparslan8498 6 месяцев назад
Ölü olymipiacos a moses wright ı kaptırarak ligi kupayı euroleague i riske atıp rakibini canlardırdın çok büyük hata çok ayrıca elden top vermeye devam ederlerse hiçbir karar maçını kazanamazlar.
@PaoFootballClub
@PaoFootballClub 6 месяцев назад
Bro you know i like your analysis and I always agree.But you are wrong here.Making fouls its not physical defence.Nunn did 7 turnovers and most of them were fouls by olympiacos players.Thats what olympiacos plays is not basketball,its fightclub ball.
@TMPOUZI
@TMPOUZI 6 месяцев назад
all clear deflections, that's what you get when you have a scorer who refuses to pass the ball
@ios8720
@ios8720 6 месяцев назад
Stay on the football club 😂😂 . You have no idea about basketball
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