genius posted NF and people are still tryna hate on him calling him corny, trash and a "depressed white rapper" all because he brings light to mental illness and raps about real shit. It infuriates me... people have no respect
@@teewhyeee I'm not surprised at all by it tbh. Let people talk though, the more they talk more money he gets. Like we say, love it or hate, either way you're talking about itm
when he talks about quoting him its not em quoting him its his fans. For the exact reason for people thinking the TEAM line was a diss. So hes saying if ur gonna quote me make sure you aint pulling BS and putting words in his mouth. I feel like he knew people would take that as a diss at em so he added the quoting line.
Hit list - Em Kamikaze, Plane - Em Kamikaze, the flow with the therapy work - Ems flow from The Ringer, Gun jamming - Killshot..much more to many connections not saying it's a diss but it's a warning shot
@@cemusictv total agree. people mix up acknowledgment for a diss. he 100% acknowledge the fact that EM mentioned his name, too many things line up. But by no means there was a diss.
I-EM only goin' 2 say this 1 more time.... '.... NF'n recovery clone of..... "ME" ! (tEaM - t&a = EM) + NF said "ME" which is EM calling himself ME in that line.... and NF 'turned' that line around on EM and it becomes ME as if to say look in a mirror and judge your own self but respect where IT is due... IT ain't rocket science people and yes... NF does respect EMINEM he just want's it in RETURNS.... ;) C watt I did there? lol Oh and lighten up people... Ya'll act like EM gonna beat NF up or something... geeeeeeez!
It's definitely not a diss. It's flexing for sure. He's posturing and sending a warning to Em and other Emcees that he WILL be taken seriously in this genre. I love to see Nate getting his confidence. Em is still my favorite rapper as I've been listening to him since my 20's but NF is in my top 5. Honestly, I probably bump this album more than anything else right now.
THANK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH I THINK THE SAME EXACT THING. Be prepared tho there is most likely gonna be some butthurt fucktards cussing you out because you don't have the same opinions as them😂😂
I think Em did mention NF, I’m just no convinced it’s a diss. Have the best say you are like him seems more a compliment to me. A clone in and exact replica, not a lesser version, so I don’t think NF should be offended by that 😂. As for this song, I don’t think it was at Em at all. He says the Team line, tells you exactly what he means (me) and follows up with don’t misquote him. Also, Em doesn’t smile, so can’t wipe off that arrogant smile. Ems fans ARE like NFs (as you mentioned), etc. It might be at someone in particular, or at the whole industry, but I don’t think it was directed at Em.
Andrew Gonzalez For sure and you’re welcome. I haven’t seen anybody break it down to the extent I’m going to, I haven’t found all the stuff myself but some I have and friends helped with other things, people that know Em’s stuff and NF’s like crazy.
🚨💙MY MAN KIDNAPPING DREAMS OUT HERE 💙🚨 There’s bullets formed in my mind, they come out my mouth and ( pow, pow, pow ) 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽#DuaneGang #dislocatebothyourfeet #letsgo #Returns
by quoting i think he meant saying "an effing". i think its a diss. ive thought about it over night and day for like 2 days. its a diss for sure. "an effing" is a type of thing em would do to not be so blatant. and nathan said that team bar, and tried to make it less blatant by saying the me bar. this shows they tried to kinda cover it. also the bar about the hitlist, the list about all the mumble rapppers and that (just after the nf bar). its definitely a diss, even the name "returns", its his return to em. its all just covered and not so blatant
same bro I get that vibe off nf but on the same note I don't think ems line was anything for nf to take to personally I think the same about em to if he really had a problem he would have made it known
In the song Kamikaze Em mentions a hit list and also, notice the scheme NF does, he literally takes Em’s scheme, Em said the F word and the NFing and Nate said, there ain’t no I in team but drop the T and A, if I’m being honest sometimes it feels like it’s only me they both worded it to where it can be taken two different ways
@@rivervalleystreetrods7789 a year late, gotta say tho, don't think it was ur keyboard, but more like your brain malfunctioned, you said exactly, then was like omg that's not what I said, I meant exactly, whilst adding to it a bit... you just confused yaself
He might be using that EM - ME to throw a shot and say that he is different and not a clone of em ( fells like it's only me). I think that this is the only shot . People also address that patiently waiting line, shoot you out of the sky ( the whole airplane kamikaze thing), light it all over you self esteem (em calling himself rap god and dissing like everybody)and some others but they are reaching already.
I definitely think Em took a shot at NF on kamikaze "NFing recovery clone of me". I don't think NF is taking shots at Em just putting the industry on notice. I think if NF wanted to he could body most of the rappers out there.
I love them both and I know that would be the most epic rap battle EVER!!! You too are an amazing MC, I have been bumping your dax diss song everyday lol.
This is the video I was waiting for and this one had so many deep shots in it, I should be making a video and uploading it tomorrow to show the insane amount of things most missed that was directed towards Em
I'm a new subscriber. Been a long time subscriber of crypt and been hearing bout you so came to check you out. Your videos are dope and so is your music!! New fan here bro! Keep grinding. PS NF IS MY ALL TIME FAVORITE ARTIST!
Homie this sounded like warning shots, just as Eminem wordplayed NF in an effing, NF wordplayed drop the T and A. They both sound like they're subliminally throwing warning shots. But not straight up disses.
He said there aint no "I" in team but drop the T and A, sometimes if I'm being honest feels like it's only me ...if you take the T and A out of TeAm then you have e m which spell "me", kinda over thinking it if you think he meant "Em"inem
This whole NF vs Em thing was created by media (not even talk YT folks, but news media), but didn't happen. Now reactors would love it was a thing cause it would be one one of the best beefs due to how good both artists are with word play/bars.
NF got people so damn confused with how deep his emotional personification really goes. It was 100% not a diss, considering this album is about his fame/mental health; that's who he's talking to and about in most of these songs.
It wasn't a shot shot but NF said I have been patiently waiting I think now is my turn. Remember Eminem and 50 cents song patiently waiting so he use word play to get his point.
It's smart marketing IMO. When I mindlessly scroll at times, his thumbnails catch my attention every single time. Can't mistake a thumbnail for anyone else this way lol
Em's last album was kamikaze and NF says shoot you out the sky like the punch lines you're not landing and em is a heavy punch line rapper then the next line is gun jammin and em released kill shot so he's saying his gun jammed
I think he was responding to Eminem but not dissing him since Eminem didn’t really diss him. He even said he’s been patiently waiting which is a song from Eminem and 50 cent.
Eminem has said HIT LIST referring to people hes beefing with but i dont believe NF will beef with someone unless it is 100% a diss towards him. NF'ing isn't clearly a diss.
I really dont think NF would wanna go after me man that ends people lol think he was just talkin his shit telling people not to really go after him. Love your reactions man
Hit list, shot you out of the sky(em’s album cover was a plane) gun jammin (killshot) and everyone missed em talking about nf’s therapy album on another song. But if you go back and listen to nf- statement. It all ties together. Not disses just them both sayn they see each other in hiden texts.
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I don’t think it was directed at Eminem. I took it a totally different direction. He mentioned “team” before in Intro I referring to the team at Capitol Records. If you look at the copy right for the Search record on iTunes it does not mention Capitol, only NF Real Music LLC. Makes me wonder if he restructured his arrangement with Capitol. He also mentions in another song that he went from employee to employer. Also, people could be overlooking the T&A part of that line. With T&A being synonymous with “tits and ass” and NF being known for NOT rapping about women in that way, you could pose that he is saying he feels like it is only him not rapping about female anatomy. It’s a big reach, but more likely than a shot at Eminem. I still think it more likely about his arrangement with Capitol or, perhaps, just his creative process in general.
I think people jumped to conclusions too much because Em had recently dissed Nate. But, Nf says, "If i wont say something to your face, i wont say it in private." an that tells me if he's gonna diss somebody, hes gonna say their name and make it clear that its a diss. He isnt the type to sneak diss or send subliminals to anyone. Just my opinion. Idk lol
The one subliminal line was the "there's no I in team but drop the t &a because it's only me"...equally as subtle as Em's line and basically saying there's no connection between him and em...not a clone. That's all I heard that could be at em
I also think the "drop the T&A" and "feels like it's only me" bar could be a reference to the stereotype of rappers putting tits and ass in their videos...so if you drop the T&A, you're left with ...only him. It's flexing.
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I don’t think diss is the right word but I think it’s POSSIBLE it was I heard what you said and I’m not going anywhere. The part that sticks out to me more is when he says”I’m generic, you sure?” And finishes with “While I’m wearing my merch stomping on your arrogant turf.” Because Em called him a clone so if that’s true he would have to be stomping on his turf. It’s also entirely possibly he’s just going at haters in general and the industry for essentially ignoring him. We may never know for sure and that’s probably how he intended it🙃
I want someone to ask Eminem in an interview if he dissed or mentioned NF and just settle all doubt/debate. I don't think NF was taking shots unless he planned it to be so subtle it would make everyone wonder. Someone should ask NF too lol.
Em said in "fall" to Lord Jamar "put my feet up and just make myself at home." Nf said "take your shoes off, you're in my home." The plane references the whole kamikaze album. He is definitely taking shots at Em. He unfollowed Em on Twitter and Instagram a long time ago. When he mentioned fans, he wasn't referring to numbers. He was saying that his fans are different. Em had no right bringing that man's name up in that song. Marshall gets more and more bitter as he gets older.
Jessie Clayton lmao so because he said something a little similar Em said and unfollowed him, that’s means he’s dissing him? and by the way, this is rap, the genre thats infamous for its competition, Eminem has every right to diss any rapper he wants to. also, NF said that he didn’t diss him in an interview, just so u know
I don't think it was about Eminem but then he says like the punch lines you are not landing.. gun jamming...is it maybe machine gun Kelly he's talking about there? I'm probably totally wrong lol but throwing it out there
I thought the same thing.. in his Rap Devil, he says "and I'm by my f**king self what's happening?". Just as NF said "show up to my funeral wearing all black and what's happening?"
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Yeah I don’t think Nate wants that kind of spotlight on him anyway. He is too reserved to start up a massive battle. I think he is just speaking to any haters. Also, I hate when people compare them because yes they look the same and have a similar voice at times but their mindsets are so different. Of course I like em but he’s just waaaaaay too cocky which is the 100% opposite of Nate so it just annoys me when they’re compared.
It was a genius move on NF's part. He made a couple of warning shots over the bow at em. One most people miss is "Shoot you out of the sky like you're punchlines, you are not landing" this is in reference to Em's album name Kamikaze, which is Japan's suicide pilots from WW2. And then team lyric most people associate with a dis but finished it with me but I believe it is a double entendre. Another one I noticed is "While I'm wearing my merch', stomping on your arrogant turf" Em and NF are from the same state. Again I think he wrote them so they say I heard you but I got bars too and don't use fillers. The rest I think is mostly to the general artist in the industry. I would love to hear what y'all think?
If EM tried to go at NF nothing would land because anything EM tries NF has already said about himself. NF has shown humility and not trying to be a rap god. EM would have nothing.
em called him a clone. Clone. Not copy, in his shadow, etc.. CLONE. Pick up a dictionary. Its, if anything, a compliment. Clone means EXACTLY the same by definition. Em would never use a word that means EXACT SAME, DNA,.. literally same person, if he wanted to diss Nate. Does Nate seem like someone venomous who would bite the hand of his fave rapper he grew up, coping, when his mother was an addict and being abused? Not exactly Nates style, or Em’s.. plus, now, ems bro, daughter, skylar grey, ems official fan page, are all following NF. Quit being lousy fans wishing two severly talented, but both traumatized MC’s to battle. Enough hate in the world when they could be brothers.
NF’s entire track is referencing Eminem. From Em’s ‘The Ringer’ (almost the entire 2nd half of the Track), to ‘Forgot About Dre’ references, his video to ‘Cleaning Out My Closet’, and MANY other themes in Eminem’s other albums. NF also, I believe, addressing those that have the never ending comparisons of him and Eminem... A lot of it is a subtle theme throughout the entire track of ‘Returns’ and some is a very obvious, direct response. It’s done in such a way, it’s almost purposely done so that it’s up for interpretation...
Chris Sparks I hope he does honestly, I want someone(anyone) to go at NF just because I want to hear a track where Nate goes off on one singular person 🙌
He won't take people's word for it. At best he will listen to the song and I don't think he will take as a diss, at worst he might but idk, I wouldn't count on it.
I really don’t think it was a diss, it just seems a bit stretched, if NF wanted to diss em, I would think he would make it way more noticeable because I don’t think he’s a sneak disser, but I don’t know much about NF. He just sounds like someone that would actually go in. Ya know what I’m sayin?
i know i think a lot of these comments are coming based on my thumbnail 😂 i specifically say i don’t think he dissed eminem at the part of the supposed diss 🙏🏽
DuaneTV yeah I seen it g, watched the whole vid, I’m not one of those guys that just be like “sees thumbnail” immediate reaction “👿” nah but fr I always watch a vid before I add my thoughts. In general, loved the vid man. 👍🏻
Yo homie. I think u went in looking for a specific line or diss. Listen to it over and over and see all the ties to em and the layers of what he does. This track is so cleverly written and executed. Not a diss but 100% directed towards em.
One on the reactions I watched a guy in the comments broke down why it was a diss at Em and I shoulda copy pasted it here made sense rather people are reaching or not. He said something about a hit list (Ems) diss's then mentions a aircraft crashing which could be a mention to Ems kamakazi album since those planes were most effective by crashing into their enemies. Theres a whole lot more but I cant remember it all at the same time tho he mentions "you have fans but not like I do" which is contradicting to it being a diss so idk.
I think em did intend for it to be like that... a play on multiple levels; The fact that NF doesn’t cuss. The recovery theme The white rapper from Michigan 😂🤷🏻♂️ But honestly i feel like that’s kind of a compliment if em is calling him a clone of him. Em obviously thinks he’s one of the best of all time. Sooo?
Exactly! Id think one would think it would be a huge compliment to be called a clone of Em, especially someone who grew up listening to Em & was inspired by him! I get that no one wants to live in someone else's shadow & stuff; but still. I feel like if Em was dissing Nf there would be no question about it, itd be loud & clear! He's never been one to sneak a little diss, its either he's dissing you or he's not; & if he is you know it cause the message would be loud & clear.
Ok I'm going to try and keep this short but there's a lot to cover. I'm stIdk to just this song even tho there's other songs with possible shots as well. Where to begin,.... Lime a mannequin that can speak what I have in store in unique... Movie from 1987 called Manniquon where at night the mannequins came alive and talked . lead actresses thst played the mannequin is Named KIM Catrell.., Just mopped the floors with Cms.. In the when I grow up video Nate refused to used the "RINGER" to wring out the mop before mopping... Not to graphic but not PG... Nfing recovery clone reference These bullets come in my mind and come out my mouth... Kill shot reference , Nate has never used bullets or gun reference in any of his songs before now .... Pushing forward look I can't ignore ignore it , there ain't no I in Team, drop the T and A and honestly sometimes I feel like it's only me... So yes there is e m left after you drop the T and the a. Then he falls up the line sing only me. But if you flip me you get em. So I take this to mean he is the opposite of em. Every One Compares them but he is the opposite so if you reverse me you get e m. I'll also elaborate more on this reverse Theory after I point out a few more things.... No defeat notably you better get it right if you're quoting me put my name on your Hit List it'll be the last time you wrote something.... I agree with what dude said in the video about this Eminem on Kamikaze writing a hit list of people. That also goes with the bullet references in my opinion.... Selfishly helplessly watching you people pretend you've on my planet I'll shoot you out of the sky like the punch lines you are not landing .... The song Space Bound was on The Recovery album. I will laborate further on this as well.,,, Show up to my funeral wearing all black and what's happening where are my fans at O Lord they know I am not in that casket trash bag is probably buried somewhere with my ashes. this reference is an oh lord song of his to the fans but the important part as to why I think he put a funeral reference in the middle of this track is because one Eminem had the diss track called nail in the coffin which everyone kept saying if NF responded then he would have the same thing happen to him as Ja Rule did. So he's saying I'm not even in that casket because I'll be buried in my ashes in a reference to a song Oh Lord so even if and wants to murder him he will never nail em in a coffin While I'm wearing my merge stomping on your arrogant turf This is a little bit of a reach but I do think the fact that M thinks that he owns the game and had an entire album talking about how he thinks he owns the game speaks to the Arrogant turf. I hate the things that make me feel like I'm dirt In Space Bound Eminem has a line about I'll show you what it's like to feel like dirt. And following that line is love is Evol spell it backwards I'll show you. And then Nate says cross my eyes and Dot my T's which is backwards you usually cross your t's and Dot your I's so then it's reverse again just like the reverse for me is M the reverse for love and evol and the reverse for I's and t's Now like I said this was just my break down and thought process going through the lyrics for just this song and things I pointed out. You can agree or not agree this is what I see some of it might seem further fashion others but the amount of things that relate is pretty substantial. And knowing Nate music he is very particular intentional and intricate with his words and when he writes. So he definitely has the skill to weave these messages And do his lyrics and a way that you have to be looking for them to find them. His ability to connect songs to other songs also is something that is unique to him. This also it's not the only song in which there are several things that point to responses to Eminem. The whole When I Grow Up Video has so many lines and similarities that's what made me start looking at his other songs differently that and the fact that in the search he said the words picking up the cues right which I believe was setting up fans to pay attention just like you said pretty visual these are just my opinions please be respectful and your response is I would love to have a intelligent factual debate
@@milothegreat3831 that's because he's so intricate. As he said in the search , intricate with every syllable ima criminal. I have found ever more then this honestly and not just this song. He has so many layers in his lyrics. Yo have to dig and I been digging for week lol and as a former hardcore Eminem fan I am well versed in his lyrics as well.
@@kevinsykes2549 Russian roulette yes that's true but not aiming bullets. He also mentioned in no excuses if you take shot behind my back I'm catch the bullets
I don't care what anyone says he took multiple subliminal shots at EM. People don't understand that's what rappers do it's not always an entire track. Drake & Jay Z subliminally dissed each other multiple times over the years. Drake admitted that in his rap radar interview.
Edit: NFing is interesting too because NF doesn’t swear. Eminem clearly has no issue with swearing. So it seems like it was changed specifically to not swearing and sound like NF. Rap critic has called NF generic. Can’t speak on the Eminem stuff in terms of NF reacting. I respect both a ton. NF has flat out said Eminem influenced him a lot. So who knows
Here are the symptoms, couldn't miss 'em, wrestle with 'em Then I penny flip 'em, bounce 'em back up nowhere, you should get some Who you dissin'? Move the switch and don't come in the kitchen You should listen, cookin' records for my hands are blistering So persistent, don't forget this, hold the tension, soul is bending - leave me alone People say this was towards eminem because this part made no sense in the song. Obviously wrestle with "EM" penny flip "EM" is why they say it. 🤔
I dont think either one of them actually disses each other because if eminem really does say some ones name it doesnt always mean hes dissing them hes said that if your name can rhyme with something or if i can say something clever then i would use it regardless im a huge fan of both its just sense its still close to diss season people look for mentions of names and throw them out of proportion huge fan by the way keep up the good work
If theres a a question if it's a diss. It's not a diss, or not a good diss. Good diss have truth and are very clear, how their dissing. "Undercover" diss can only come from a place of weakness.
“Least favorite of my favorites” lol!! I think that’s the perfect way of saying it... it’s hard to not like a song by him lol. This one is maybe for me is.. middle favorite area lol, “Hate Myself” still takes the favorite of all favorites 🤣 but that’s because I can relate 🖤🗝🛒. #NFRealMusic #DuaneGang oh that cocky smile line, only made me think of Russ 🤷🏻♀️, who said NF was wack & Russ is most known for his arrogance.
Here is the problem, Eminem himself has said on not alike that he doesn’t sneak diss. And especially on kamikaze he called out so many people. I feel like if he wanted it to be a diss it would have been worded differently.
Dyllan Rake I think it was a diss on NF but NF is so pure and humble, taking a hard shot at him wouldn’t go over well. It also wouldn’t have been a response to NF but a response to someone in EM’s circle bringing attention to NF that he didn’t like.
"Shoot you out of the sky like you're punchlines, you are not landing Gun jamming, reach in your mouth and rip out your tongue after tongue." That would be the only maybe line. Shooting the kamikaze plane out of the sky. Reach maybe but yeah.
It was probably said below but I'll say it anyway sorry D. So as you well know Em almost never if never, take subliminal shots we all know (huge fan) he will call by name no issues. Also NF had Em as an influence he respects. Please check more how genuine NF is. Also, Em says an efing recovery clone of me. NF is super intelligent he knows a clone of Em is fucking out of here amazing crazy anyway and he looks up to Em so yeah this NF real guy knows better. He said in interviews he does not take it as a disrespectful matter and he continues to love Em. Also, crazy as Em is he's pretty honorable. We know it. Problem is people kept referring to Nf as a (like Em) guy. So even if subs shots from each they are not towards one another.... I mean two super masterminds, nah.
Ppl think the ENTIRE song is coming at Eminem...I watch indecently decent react and they were saying every single line was about Eminem...and broke it down pretty good...but cmon now...then they're tryna say he's using Em's flow from kamikaze I don't fucking hear it and I've listened to both songs multiple times ppl are bugging! And yes the team bar was the biggest one ppl we're talking about...imagine NF and Eminem did a song together..literally the entire world...every continent..would go crazy..I'm thinking like...a billion views in less than a week
you could say any of those were disses. grab a can of gasoline light it all over your self esteem. 8 mile when he burns the house down. but he isnt dissing em, he doesn't need to. NF knows his lane and that lane is completely different than em. i dont think theres a comparison personally. my opinion is NF on a different level than em.
Alot of people were saying how when NF said "shoot you out of the sky" he is referring to Eminem's Kamikaze plane. I also believe that NF is intelligent and he doesn't do anything by accident so when he says to drop the "t" and "a "in team, if you literally drop it in order, it spells "Em". In my opinion that is too much of a coincidence. There is another youtube video breaking this down further