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Did Schillinger Really Kill Beecher's Wife? - Oz Explained 

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In HBO's Oz, did Vern Schillinger really kill Tobias Beecher's wife, like he claimed he did? Let's examine the evidence.
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Комментарии : 64   
@AwfulWaffle8474
@AwfulWaffle8474 7 месяцев назад
Oz was a lowkey comedy in the later seasons.
@Incel_81
@Incel_81 7 месяцев назад
It always was from the start tbh. A dark comedy.
@bobabooey3103
@bobabooey3103 7 месяцев назад
Never forget when they put the Chinese immigrants in Oz. People died
@Incel_81
@Incel_81 7 месяцев назад
@@bobabooey3103 that was funny how everyone, even Said, looked at them like they were about to get graped.
@Klongu_Da_Bongu
@Klongu_Da_Bongu 7 месяцев назад
Really? I thought the tone was consistent. Maybe you're refering to when the narrator dies, it's very goofy.
@jpawtalksabout
@jpawtalksabout 6 месяцев назад
Are you saying that cause the musical episode?
@PyeOhMy
@PyeOhMy 7 месяцев назад
JK Simmons played that character so well that I still feel on edge whenever I see him in anything else. Even the Farmers Insurance commercials.
@TomFooleryTheAustere
@TomFooleryTheAustere 3 месяца назад
I always felt his portrayal of the character was flawless, it’s just J.K. Simmons doesn’t seem like an intimidating dude. Some actors are such kind people in real life, by the time they’re J.K.‘s age, the lines in their face show the kindness in their heart. All the frowning and scowling don’t hide it.
@gmb7999
@gmb7999 Месяц назад
@@PyeOhMy i always shout schillnger at the tv when i see tht ad 🤣🤣
@joeg1915
@joeg1915 7 месяцев назад
It wasn't a deleted scene, it was in the DVD box set. He admits that he was just messing with Beecher and never had his wife killed.
@berserk4souls
@berserk4souls 7 месяцев назад
This show was obsessed with misery so if he really did have a part in her dying, he would be reminding Beecher every single episode. I think he just heard the news and wanted to stick it to Beecher as badly as possible (no pun intended)
@spaceo8568
@spaceo8568 7 месяцев назад
By season 3 it was just mayhem. It was all about killing who and how. But the first 2 seasons were great. For the most part. J.K. Simmons is one of the best actors I've ever seen and he was brutal in this show.
@czarjizzy
@czarjizzy 7 месяцев назад
The deleted scene takes part in season 5 during one of the Sister Pete sit downs between Vern, Tobias and Kareem. He basically admits he just said it to fuck with him.
@whatamievendoing
@whatamievendoing 5 месяцев назад
But he lies in those sessions, it still isn't clear
@scottyjbd
@scottyjbd Месяц назад
@@whatamievendoingnor is a deleted scene considered canon
@Supremmo
@Supremmo 7 месяцев назад
Putting someone like Beecher with a hardcore criminal like Schillinger was all kinds of wrong.
@scottyjbd
@scottyjbd Месяц назад
Beecher requested to be moved to Schillingers cell
@stvinney
@stvinney 7 месяцев назад
This was probably the show that changed tv It came before the Sopranos But in the 90s... you could watch violent shit and talk about it but you couldn't watch REALLY violent shit that involved homosexuality then share opinions with all your work friends I say that, admitting that the later seasons were disappointing It may not have been a better show but it got there first and it was really good. It deserves a celebration similar to all that the Sopranos have received in recent years
@mariozd971
@mariozd971 7 месяцев назад
Beecher, did she even exisht?
@jasonrobinson7706
@jasonrobinson7706 7 месяцев назад
More videos on OZ!!!!
@cinemamadness6920
@cinemamadness6920 2 месяца назад
If Vern killed Beacher's wife, I feel like the writers or Vern would have confirmed it at some point. He was just messing with his head
@magicmoonmonke
@magicmoonmonke 5 месяцев назад
You should make one discussing whether or not Beecher intended for Andrew Schillinger to get killed or if that wasnt part of the plan. His reaction to his death is really interesting.
@sayseriously
@sayseriously 3 месяца назад
My Gawd... I've never seen such a vendetta between two adverse characters.
@SuperBrooklynite007
@SuperBrooklynite007 5 месяцев назад
I say no, I feel like he would’ve enjoyed Beecher in agony over his wife’s divorcing him and as she unalive herself, Vern saw an opportunity to mess with him more
@Lilyanna298
@Lilyanna298 7 месяцев назад
He had motivation and it makes sense to an extent as he had previously threatened his wife and daughter. He might have thought it seemed cowardly to kill a woman which is why he say he didn’t say he killed the wife when he said he killed the father and son (though surely it’s even more cowardly to kill a child?). But I don’t think he did kill her because he would have made sure everyone knew as he had recently been humiliated by Beecher and would have wanted everyone to know that he got revenge.
@dumbage
@dumbage 3 месяца назад
thanks man not many oz videos
@terranman4702
@terranman4702 3 месяца назад
She came at him with a chainsaw. Vern has a right to defend himself
@mariozd971
@mariozd971 7 месяцев назад
Did hish wife even exisht?
@serotoninsyndrome
@serotoninsyndrome 6 месяцев назад
Every night, she'd drink Beecher under the table....
@AJCyalater-qv4ei
@AJCyalater-qv4ei 7 месяцев назад
Why is the volume fluctuate so much on your channel.
@pegcity4eva
@pegcity4eva 6 месяцев назад
The jail magically got new ranges every other week.
@BM-wh5qk
@BM-wh5qk 7 месяцев назад
Pretty weird that a woman with two kids and wealthy in laws would kill herself...
@Lilyanna298
@Lilyanna298 7 месяцев назад
There’s plenty of real life cases of that happening
@bigpimpenish
@bigpimpenish 7 месяцев назад
Probably
@mccuegreene8157
@mccuegreene8157 7 месяцев назад
just been blazing through this just got through the dreaded Quinn🐍🐍🐍and then turn round and see him on 30 Rock great actor for sure specially Airheads
@rustykuntz94
@rustykuntz94 7 месяцев назад
Vern was just being an evil sick prick as always. Great job, more OZ videos please ☑️
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 7 месяцев назад
I don’t think he did. I think he just utilized that letter to fuck with him
@smolshamer6072
@smolshamer6072 28 дней назад
A Woman writing a note that’s straight to the point? Maybe it’s true that it was staged.
@almadixon-cider31
@almadixon-cider31 7 месяцев назад
0:46 Prag?🤔 Oh, I See! 🤣🤣🤣
@TheSolidSnakeOil
@TheSolidSnakeOil 7 месяцев назад
Beecher killed Dauber. Screw that guy.
@Dredaslime1
@Dredaslime1 7 месяцев назад
He definitely killed her😵
@sir_fapalot
@sir_fapalot 7 месяцев назад
Next video: did Said really kill Adebisi? I think he killed himself, and Said was actually trying to stop him. He had the knife turned on himself when he said "this is how a man dies", he realized he already had everything but would always be stuck in prison. The last thing he did was cutting Said's face as punishment for handing the tapes to the warden, if he wanted he could've killed Said right there. We don't exactly see what happened behind the curtain, but Adebisi had the knife, pushed Said away, right then the camera cuts to outside and we see a blood stain 1 second later. No way Said could or would want to grab the knife and kill him that quickly. Said of course covered for him in season 5 so the other inmates wouldn't think he was a bitch. He still believed he killed Adebisi but that was just guilt from not being able to save him.
@DirtySouthJR
@DirtySouthJR 7 месяцев назад
What did he do stab himself in the back ? I've watched the show many times and I know that he busts out making it seem he is the victor only to spit blood and fall face down. Then the blood is revealed on his back. However I've always interpreted it as Adibisi basically commiting a type of suicide-by-cop where he forces Said to kill him when he secretly wants that outcome and basically lets him get the upper hand. Said even remarks about how Abibisi just wanted to die after realizing all his desires being fulfilled wasn't enough.
@MonoverSusstereo
@MonoverSusstereo 7 месяцев назад
Adebisi lives!
@esraahesham4174
@esraahesham4174 5 месяцев назад
That is what I thought, but the thing is he was stabbed in the back, which I still find weird because how come he turns his back on saeed in a fight
@samanthalake5011
@samanthalake5011 7 месяцев назад
Definitely.
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 7 месяцев назад
nah. Beechers whole family basically got wiped out by Vern. tacking on one more at the hands of him vs. one death actually being (arguably) Beecher's fault. goes a lot further. I'm chalking it up to bad writing.
@Incel_81
@Incel_81 7 месяцев назад
His brother survived and his mom.
@mariozd971
@mariozd971 7 месяцев назад
Did she even exisht?
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 7 месяцев назад
@@mariozd971 yea there was an episode where she came to visit him. I think they even had a conjugal. I can’t remember but the recap says she saw the Nazi symbol burned in his ass.
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore
@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore 7 месяцев назад
@@Incel_81 ok well yes that’s true. I suppose it was a bit of hyperbole but I mean.. Schillinger mailed him his toddler sons hand, I can’t imagine he would’ve been subtle about killing his wife. Edit: also I think that was probably the most unrealistic thing about the show. Vern is just blatantly destroying Beecher, the prison officials know about it, he even admits to raping him in a therapy session and still the prison does nothing. Like… 😂😂 bitch aren’t you a mandatory reporter? You’re looking at a lawsuit at the very least here Oz prison. 😂
@mariozd971
@mariozd971 7 месяцев назад
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Yes, i know my friend, what i wrote here is a joke from The Sopranos, the question Tony asks Big Pussy. I was watching OZ first time in 2004-2005, i was about 21,22 , from that time on i watched OZ 4 5 times. I watched Sopranos at least 5 times, Breaking Bad 2 times, The Wire 3-4 times, Justified 2 times, Ozark 2 times and Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men and other shows once
@patrickdukart3298
@patrickdukart3298 7 месяцев назад
More Oz content please!!!
@scottyjbd
@scottyjbd Месяц назад
Bigger and less obvious question…..who fathered Shirley Bellinger’s child???
@KillaBeeeeeeeeee
@KillaBeeeeeeeeee 7 месяцев назад
Only prison without yard
@joed9849
@joed9849 6 месяцев назад
Lovers quarrel?
@Void7.4.14
@Void7.4.14 7 месяцев назад
This is actually one I've gone back and forth on for years. But I think I've settled on no, he didn't, he just twisted the knife after the fact. Cause one of the only things worse than your wife killing herself if your mortal enemy killing her.
@some______guy
@some______guy 7 месяцев назад
Yes
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