Log a service request and ask fir this functionality to be restored. Camp mode keeps power on when car is unoccupied so that isn't a valid reason to disable this feature.
This is sad. we are in texas and loved having a refrigerator plugged in our car all the time via sentry mode kept on. This was a huge bragging point for us.
@OutdoorEV Broken fridge is worse. I bet Tesla will fix the 12v and in the meantime I have a Bluetti. I still have to test but I feel greatly relieved. Thanks again!
I see your point. In my mind it depends on the outside temperature, for instance if it's 5-10 C outside it's quite unnecessary to spend energy on camp mode whereas if it's 30 C outside and the cars interior can reach 45+ camp mode makes more sense. Sentry + camp mode would be awesome, though. I slept in the car in a semi-sketchy part of Stockholm this weekend where that combo would be nice to have
Great report. This is indeed a bummer. I also use a cooler on my COSTCO Trips to keep meat & dairy cool as my closest COSTCO is 1.25 hr drive! We need this reactivated!
That's quite the shopping commute! At least 12V still works when in use, and in the meantime you could leave your car in camp mode until Tesla sorts this out 😮💨
It seems like now we would either have to A) hook up an inverter to the 12V battery under the back seat, or B) keep things in camp mode and then have to purchase a separate 3rd party camera / security system to take the place of Sentry... Why would they take this feature away...??
Yeah 😖 very strange by Tesla. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will be reverted in a future update asap! Keeping camp mode running as an alternative isn't really viable in really hot or cold weather, and I would imagine Tesla would do their typical warranty dance if people started tapping their own 12V into the cabin
They are most likely doing this to try to clamp down on standby range loss, a lot of people complain about range loss when in sentry mode because so many people leave their cars in sentry mode for apartment parking with no charging options, and a lot of people have things like phone chargers, radar detectors etc hooked up to their 12v sockets all the time. Now it would be really nice if they added an option to turn the 12v on standby. Edit: he did address that in the video and I would say that is the most likely cause.
Not cool. I had also read from Julien in France that the 12v cuts out when not in car or in sentry mode, meaning all the food is warm when you return to the car after being away for a few hours - really poor, Tesla. Let's hope they can give an option to leave on or off to help both car campers and the lazy taxi drivers leaving stuff connected all day.
Maybe a workaround is to get a small power station like a Bluetti EB3A only £199 in the UK and you can very quickly charge it in the car and its portable so can be used anywhere you like would easily run a fridge and has a UPS mode
@TheWinstn60 sorry to put you on the spot in my latest video, but 32.7 didn't fix it for me. Did it fix it for you? 🤔 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mBZPn_PlLHY.htmlsi=5H74AMGrfUKUJjcB
Same issue with Model Y 16V lithium, France. I'm going to investigate drawing 16V power from under the back seats. There is a connection there (I suppose this is where the power converter is located, converting from 400V to 16V).
And I just bought a 12v fridge and DC/AC converter for a road trip to France from the UK, thankfully I can return the fridge still. The DC/AC converter will still be of use, but a little less so
It's annoying to always have to turn on camp mode to keep my fridge active and turn off ac but it's not a huge deal to remember. I'd love an always on setting but its not a deal breaker
@@OutdoorEV I was just really hoping it wasn't true, or that it didn't effect cars in some regions or something, so felt the need to test it with my own car. Kind of a massive pain.
Hey! Yeah it works quite well, but it's a bit loud for my taste. You can see my complete camping setup here including the 12V cooler ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NgbIPCHdaAc.html
I'd prefer a regular wall outlet vs 12v. Something decent enough (I can only charge 1kw on my inverter) to charge the house battery in a pinch. If you have it though I don't see the reason for removing it.
@L33TTechReviewer I imagine it would work just fine (as long as you don't blow the fuses 😅). The problem here is that 12V deactivates when leaving the car, and the only way to keep it alive is putting the car in Camp mode.
I have two devices affected by this: The commander for the S3XY buttons now powers off, which means I cannot use some features like "presenting doors" or "automatic trunk" any more. They need the same 12V line to be powered. The other device is my dashcam. I powered it from the same 12V line as the plugs using a hard wire kit. As soon as I close a door, the camera powers off. Open another door to take something from the back seat and I hear it powering on again, only to be powered off again as I close that door. Opening the trunk: "Recording started"... etcetera. Really to bad, because this dashcam was a good addition to the existing Sentry Mode as the resolution and viewing angle is much greater. Oh, and on hollidays I often take a 12V coolbox with me too. You know how well that works now...
Dude, I have lived in my Tesla for 4 years solid and have kept the camp mode on 24-7. 211k miles, you can see a video at 200k miles, but camp mode FOREVER!
@PsyTechnical Damn! I'll have to check your channel out. Have you never run into a scenario where camp mode uses precious energy while being remote, though?
Wish it was an option, because I’d actually prefer this 😅. Had to get my radar detector hard wired to another circuit to keep it off when I’m not in the car. Now it seems I could just use the accessory outlets, that would’ve been nice
I’m very disappointed! Keeping the outlets energized when in sentry mode should be an option. Here’s hoping Tesla changes this soon. I’m about to leave on a cross country trip and this feature is essential to me.
With how much they invested in figuring out how to do a 48V system in the Cybertruck, it doesn’t surprise me that they might start aiming at the inefficiencies of 12v across existing models. Might be time to invest in a battery generator like a jackery or something like that. I personally have the big 4-battery EGO generator that can deliver 3000W @ 80amps 😮 I’m also fortunate that I can just plug into the 120/240 outlets in my cybertruck (and there isn’t a 12v outlet at all) and turn on those outlets from the app, but this would definitely frustrate the hell out of me.
It's not fair that you Cybertruck owners get grown-up outlets and we don't 😄 To your point though it would be strange if Tesla suddenly nerfed 12V in existing models based on the 48V system in other models. It will be interesting to follow this topic and see where it ends up.
I can see an apple like fix where only tesla sold/certified 12v products will work. All in the name of safty and not at all to do with expensive upselling.
If this stays permanent like this, I for sure will install a cable directly from the 12 volt battery inside the car and remove replace it by 12 volte socket with the current one.
I've seen people warning against this, because if you do that it will trigger the 12V is going bad warning which disables a lot of functionality and increases battery drain. Also, a lot of people have 16V batteries instead of 12V, and I'm not sure if there's a 16-12 converter already in the car somewhere you'll need to duplicate.
For the sake of testing this and making this video, a lightbulb plugged into the 12V outlet would do much better for us... From where I'm sitting the noise was the same the whole time : )
It doesn't make any sense that they would do this intentionally... it must be a bug. I know they have been trying to decrease vampire drain lately so maybe someone had a fat finger about it. It would be far better just having simple feature switches to manually select on/off of things like 12v and usb outlets and climate and interior lights, etc.
It's a deliberate change according to Tesla service. The user manual has also been updated to indicate the various scenarios where the 12v will activate.
Should probably keep a small battery generator (300Wh) with you anyway. 12v to USB C to generator to charge while driving, then plug fridge into 12v on generator. Should last a few days at least. Can also route a 12v line directly from the low voltage battery. Not as convenient as what you got there though.
The generator is an interesting and less intrusive approach than hardlining 12V 🤔 but for now let's hope I don't have to do any changes at all and that Tesla reverts the change
@@Xanthopteryx don’t forget the duty cycle is well under 50% and we are talking more like electric coolers than proper RV fridges, so you should expect at least a day
@lingeng2659 Sadly it seems to be deliberate. Tesla has changed the 12V info in the manual and have commented (to individuals, not public) that this change is here to stay. More recent rumors say they might reconsider 🤷♂️ I'm preparing a video diving into everything surrounding this issue, and looking into workarounds to trick the system in the meantime.
This is so, so dumb. The worst decision from Tesla in a while... Instead of making an official disclaimer about personal responsibility, they decided to cut one of the most important features out
I get why in ICE cars the socket has to shut down, when you only have a 600 Wh battery or so. But we're carrying 60 to 100 kWh worth of energy with us. Please Tesla, let us put this to use. I bought a fridge for my Model Y a year ago to carry my own food when traveling (I have food allergies). With this update, Tesla has essentially bricked it 😡
I've only driven the Ioniq 5 once, talking to local dealers right now to get my hands on both the 5, 6 and updated Kona EV :) as for swapping cars, I agree with the sentiment that one should use the car best suited for your own needs. If this isn't fixed I'm gonna go shopping for something to replace my Y with
