The Word says you can't please man and God and that friendship with the 'world' is enmity with God. We so need to be earnestly praying for the Church leaders at this time that God would give them a spirit of revelation.
If anyone is in _any_ doubt as to where Welby personally stands on all these issues, look at his people he has employed as his staff, the bishops he has appointed, and the powers he has aggregated to the bishops at the expense of parish churches.
I remember the hope that Tony Blair's election generated - and then saw that he relied on Alastair Campbell and Peter Mandelson and realised he was a either weak or fraud.
Research and evidence shows that the word does not condemn same sex. I won't argue that out with you but do the research and you will find that out for your self. The gospel is inclusion not exclusion.
@@salkashoura4928 Huh? All of chapter one of Romans speaks against same-sex activities. It is the same throughout the New Testament. In Revelation same-sex practitioners are told they will not enter the Kingdom of God. You do the homework. You do the research.
He should be listening to the Holy Spirit and not Politicians, just follow the teachings of Our Lord Jesus. We pray that he repents of his blasphemy and receives forgiveness 🙏
What blasphemy? Neither politicians nor theologians are competent to make decisions about the norms of human sexual differences! If you would only spend more time practicing loving your neighbours, then you would not have to make “mountains out of molehills!” DO YOUR HOMEWORK! CHECK THE SCIENCE! The Bible is NOT a source of information about the human body! Go reread Matthew 25: 40-45, PLEASE!!!
@@valeriebreathet741 we are talking sodomy. A man can sodomise a woman. The wisdom of the ancients outweighs the current world view. This is just the beginning. Stonewall will not stop here. Blessing paedophilia is their ultimate aim. Child marriage. We are heading to Sodom and Gomorrah. Can’t you see the sexualisation of our children. I feel very sorry for Gay men because they genuinely love one another but the Church cannot bless their Union unless they agree to remain celibate. It remains between them and God and does not compromise the Church. Sadly I think we are heading to a one World religion and isn’t isn’t Christian.
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. Thank you Martin Luther
Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
There is nothing in Scripture which calls us to walk in unity with those who offer a different gospel. “8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8, ESV)
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. Thank you Martin Luther
The trouble with the C/E it tries to appease its congregation through the morals of society in its day instead of looking to the word and living by that.
It's not the congregations that want this it's the bishops who are playing a power game appeasing secular powers acting as if God must tolerate their duplicity
I'm part of the CofE congregation and do not agree with Justin Welby about blessing same sex marriage. I think if congregations were allowed to vote on it you'd find a very large percentage who feel the same way. I'm not homophobic either. I know + love a few who are in same sex relationships. It doesn't mean I agree with the lifestyle. I can't predict the outcome but God wants a pure bride and judgement begins at the house of God. Holy Spirit, have mercy on us all and have your way.
@@marcokite I don't believe they do either, which is why I believe a vote would give us a voice. They make decisions for us but on this I believe they are very wrong.
We quit the Church of England immediately after the February 2023 Synod outcome. We are Orthodox now and my family and I have no wish ever to come back to the 'Church' of England ever again. As for me and my house, we will follow Jesus Christ. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy upon me, a sinner, Amen.
@@DJS11811 The Church emerged in a social context of sexual licence and taught sexual conservatism. Sex only in marriage between a man and woman with an openness to procreation or alternatively celibacy. This was in keeping with Christ's teachings. Christ was more conservative on sexual issues than the Pharasee movement. See His teachings on divorce, celibacy and lust. Sorry to say but you are just wrong on this issue of what Jesus taught. The early Church and Jesus Christ had a very clear stance against sexual liberation. That is because we have believed from antiquity that sexual liberation is cruelty, expliotation, brokenness and pain masquerading as kindness. You may not agree with these teachings but they are the teachings of the faith we have received.
@@charleshill2121 homosexuality is sin and no gay will ever enter the kingdom of God ! The law gives a death sentence if such things , Paul says to do such things results in a reprobate mind
Let’s be clear - you left the C of E, because you’re the kind of person who thinks your beliefs are more important than facilitating happiness and ending the suffering of those who are different to you.
@@GodfreyMann There is no end to suffering within sinful lifestyles! What's worse, in eternity separated from God, those individuals will hate woke lukewarm Christians far more than they do right now since their inaction in NOT explaining the truth about the wages of sin is like neon lighting a road to hell! The woke and spiritually dead CofE Bishops (other than approximately 5 who still follow the Bible and honour God) should be ashamed! Maybe they'll be in hell too since Christians will be known by their fruit and there's nothing but rot and pomposity left in the House of Bishops now! We are all sinners but we should ALL acknowledge it and REPENT and that includes people that act on homosexual or heterosexual lusts outside of one man and one woman marriage and it should also include CofE leaders when they reject the Bible!
I am fed up with this focus on the apostate leader of the apostate CoE. He has shown time and again he does not read his Bible, does not preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ and has sold out to the world on moral issues. It is a graphic example of the blind leading the blind. Sadly they all will fall into the ditch as Jesus described in Luke 6.
“We are a communion of churches not a single church”?! 🤦♂️ Whoever said that clearly fails to understand that God is NOT a polygamist. The ekklesia is the Body of Christ [singular] not ‘The bodies of Christ’ [plural]; the Bride of Christ [singular] not ‘the brides of Christ’ [plural]?! 🤦♂️ Simonline🏴🤔🤦♂️😡
You bemoan the slogan "we are a communion of churches". But perhaps your own words holds a lesson for Protestantism at large, because the slogan "there are many churches" is also the slogan of Protestantism. It was coined in an attempt to ignore the fact Sola Scriptura results in doctrinal confusion and continual division. Anglicanism simply bears the same fruits of Sola Scriptura as the rest of Protestantism.
The CofE may be YOUR church but it no longer seems to consider itself the 'Bride of Christ' as it no longer attempts to follow 'the Word'! John 1:14 - "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,"
Because the people allowed themselves to listen to nonsense in the churches instead of the gospel being preached.listening to wolves in sheep’s clothing brings a nation to its knees.
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. No need for the Rock of Peter and his successors. Thank you Martin Luther
6:54 not only did Welby vote for same sex blessings, but he appointed numerous bishops whom he knew to be reliably Woke. He orchestrated (either directly or indirectly) the synod to be composed of Wokies who would vote his way. Had Welby himself voted against SSUs, it would have been little more than a fig leaf of respectability at any rate
Jesus would never have bodyguards like poops nor was He scared to be Martyr. These men are phony feminine goofballs. Catholics get poor the become rich!
What Anglican Church was it Steve ? Are they teaching homosexuality is not a sin ? Do the Baptists believe in baptismal regeneration by immersion only ?
@@joshuaking2171 I don't know about that; Welby worked for eleven years in the oil industry, five of them for the French oil company Elf Aquitaine based in Paris. In 1984 he became treasurer of the oil exploration group Enterprise Oil plc in London, where he was mainly concerned with West African and North Sea oil projects.
Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
@davidsprouse151 Yes, the wicked prosper but the CofE Anglicans let a wolf in sheep's clothing precide over them having broken communion with the Global Anglican Communion and still do nothing! The greater evil in this is apathy and leading the lost astray through shear religious synod "disagree well" rubbish! RIP CofE!
Strangely, when the Archbishop speaks of being railroaded by Parliament and the feminist establishment, I believe him. It is not up to parliament to force doctrinal changes on the church. The church should never be led by the state, rather the church must lead the state. Why do you think feminism attacked the church, that patriarchy, first in the long march through institutions?
Justin Welby should grow some balls and tell the British government in no uncertain terms that the government does not have the authority to dictate doctrine to the Church of Jesus Christ. (Rom.13:1-7) Indeed, it is by the good grace of God that every single person in existence takes their every breath?! Welby needs to inform the government that he and God together are the majority! (Lk.19:27; Rev.6:16; Rev.21:8) Either that or stand aside for someone who actually believes in God and whom God can use to make a difference instead of just presiding over the total demise of the Church in England?! This is what comes of climbing into bed with the state?! 🤦♂️ See God and Government (formerly Kingdoms in Conflict) by Chuck Colson Simonline🏴🤔🙏😀👍
The problem with the Church of England is that it has always been in bed with the state to some extent. Those would wouldn't comply either were murdered or fled to America.
The truely Christian position re homosexuality is that the homosexual person is loved by God and by Christians. However the act between homosexuals is wrong.
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The Anglican Church has made it its core business to be conformed by the world, right from the beginning. Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Lamberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
The church must guide God's people to follow the true teachings of faith, guide and rule the faithful to obey divine laws. The church can only submit to God, not to the will of the flesh of man.
Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
Justin Welby is obviously pulled in two opposite directions. I would expect that this will involve both family members and best friends (not because I know for sure but because this is the experience we all share). However even before he took up office he publicly voiced his own uncertainty as to the rights and wrongs of the issue of sexuality. He appeared not to have arrived at a coherent (faithful?) theological understanding before he launched himself into the job; given the fight that was looming, that was a very serious error. His actions since have been consistent in ratcheting the Church of England in the revisionist direction. He's done this conspicuously in terms of the appointment of people to positions of influence - for example appointing a "married" homosexual as his bishops' appointments secretary. Actions speak louder than words. But he's a very tough cookie, brought up within the English establishment. I think his attitude and behaviour is shaped by the instinct of establishment people to do what's necessary to maintain their position within it. So a part of him has to die over the current disagreement: his establishment instinct or his faithfulness to the word of God. It's not looking good. We should pray that he will repent and do the right thing but, humanly speaking, things are looking very shaky - for him and therefore for all of us.
We all as Christians have family members and close friends who make decisions that we feel uncomfortable with and make us lose sleep. What we do is go back to scripture and pray, then we choose obedience to Christ, die to self and take up our cross. Unless you are Welby. In which case you surround yourself with others with similar doubts and listen to those who speak things contrary to the truth thus grow your doubts. He will have to lose everything he has built to get back. I pray he does of course do this.
The problem is he was not appointed by God but ultimately a secular politician. He's from the oil industry, he likes top down organisations but erroneously thinks he's at the top of his current organisation rather than God! He has failed to see that the instruction manual for living life that he is supposed to stand for, defend and teach his flock is contained in the 66 books of the Bible not in woke culture! The fruit of his heresy is now he is no longer first among equals, he is no longer even in communion with the rest of the Anglican Church! He's still deluded in thinking everyone is free to disagree with him and that they in turn will return the favour!!! Rejecting the teaching of the Bible and the doctrines of the Church of Jesus Christ is heresy NOT disagreement! Admitting he was wrong to vote for blessing sinful unions, wearing sackcloth and calling the Church of England to repentance is the only way back! To do that he'd actually have to lead, disciple and maybe even discipline other heretical leaders! There's a first for everything but he's STILL proud!
I think the worst position for anyone to be , especially a Christian, is neutral, it is called Lukewarm in the Bible, when someone is neither cold nor warm, such a person is in a worse situation than even those who are cold ( Atheists). There is no middle ground as far as the things and principles of God is concerned. When you decide to follow Jesus, you must without any compromise follow HIS Instructions, which is HIS WORD, THE BIBLE, ., Cursed are those who add or subtract that which is written in the Bible.
I am beginning to wonder whether Justin Welby really understands the Bible or believes that he serves Christ rather than his position as a Archbishop or accedes to public opinion. He is thinking of his historic place in the coronation of King Charles. Time to cut him loose.
I'm sorry but this is not a "difficult" decision or choice. It's black and white. Good and evil. Light and darkness. Homosexuality is a sin and most definitely should not be accepted or promoted within the church. End of discussion. Mr Welby needs to stand for truth and righteousness. In the end it matters not a jot what men say. He will one day stand before the judgement seat of Christ. Stop being double minded man! If the Lord is God, follow Him, if baal is God then follow him.
What happens if the two same sex partners who wish to fulfill their heart’s desires in marriage are two brothers from the same family? Would the pro same sex clergy marry them?
Sad but true. Vast majority of my church had no idea and trusted the bishops to act with integrity and follow the bible. They are shocked. Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter... But this is the shepherd striking the sheep.
It's a yougov poll from a tiny sample 🙄🙄🙄 lack of sample size ≈diminishing reliability. It's a survey of self identifying Anglicans🙄🙄🙄 so no basis in fact or measurable behaviour. Which means A) it is dubious whether it is in actual fact a survey of Anglicans. B) It risks selection bias impacting results. 2) It's all online wich is a limiting demographic as some people are not technically able and others lack access. Again potentially biasing results. 3) It's applicant based. Now they do draw from a larger panel in an attempt to mitigate this but it still has problems. The sample is to someone degree still self selecting another posible bias factor. (Who apart from political activists would agree to fill in government surveys?) Certainly political activists would have a strong motivation. Also LGBTQ activistisam is very active area amongst political activistisam currently. 4) Church members attitudes could have been ascertained in a far more effective way. Why not survey church attendees directly via parish churches? For some reason no one thought this was a good idea at hm gov. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 So yes take it with big pinch of salt mate.
@@mikecrees9715 It's been a 'slow fade' up to this point but the church resembling the Vicar of Dibley for the best part of 30 years was a big clue things were heading south!
Well he lied because he has approved the LGBT and same sex marrage. He is going against the bible and what he first believes in he is a sellout and he needs to refrain from blessing sin and calling Gods name in vain to support his abomination God will never bless them and he knows full well it cannot happen
Jesus would never have bodyguards like poops nor was He scared to be Martyr. These men are phony feminine goofballs. Catholics get poor the become rich!
Can the Bishop's in England not postpone the dicisions which was made regarding gays receiving blessings . I think they were to hasty in giving Synod the green light. Just think how sad Anglicans the world over is feeling over the split
No matter where you stand, you’ll be by be yourself in front of Jesus with no one else to blame Read the Bible. Apply it to your life daily without academic interpretation You can then justify it all to Jesus A good tree cannot bear bad fruit
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. No need for the Rock of Peter and his successors. Thank you Martin Luther
Woke ideology is being taught in our schools and is messing up our children! - Watch the video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fqJw7sW49v8.html
Definitely NOT. His position is far more BIBLICAL on the homosexual issue than that of many others. Please check the original Hebrew and Greek on passages purporting to refer to homosexuality. Their opposition to homosexuality is political - NOT BIBLICAL. CHECK IT.
If the C of E church keeps compromising the Gospel of Jesus it will be one of the dead churches in End Days . God will turn His back on them. I'm praying for you 🙏
Justin Welby made my faith homeless many years ago. As for him being "threatened by parliamentarians" this is a poor excuse for doing the wrong thing for anyone. For the archbishops who is supposed to lead, to have moral rectitude this is an absolute failing . If threatened, he should announce it to the world, he should denounce those who threatened. Or is the English Church simply a corporation of parliament?
Welby fully rejects the Homosexual initiative when speaking to someone who doesn't accept homosexuality but when he is speaking to someone who does push for the homesexual agenda he will agree entirely with that person . .
Be fair? Then may The Lord judge him on this, according to the same measure, and using the same principles as the archbishop used to judged this matter himself. I wonder if satan pressured him to follow hell's official policy, would he attempt to placateJesus in private, while publicly voting for the devil? Being a good shepherd IS a huge responsibility. One with a known penalty for succumbing to the corruption of, or the exploitation of, or the scattering of God's flock!
He doesn't truly believe what the gospel teaches in ethics and morality, nor does he accept the constant Deposit of the Christian Faith on the primacy of Sacred Scripture on sexual moral teaching. He cannot authentically call himself a Christian. He's something else.
There is no compromise! As children of God we must follow our Father and his Words are clear and unchanging. He does not compromise and neither must we 🙏❤🙏
God The same yesterday today and forever. God does not change his mind or overturn His Word so anyone or any church that tries to change His word is in error and needs to repent. Simple.
"...nothing to do with homosexuals," is not the right phrasing. Love the sinner but hate the sin! Do any Anglicans get what the Great Commission actually is? It makes me wonder...
Hopefully, the spiritual death of the Church of England masquerading as an ordered public retreat will motivate the faithful to take the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world; Sin came into the world through Adam, God loves me, I have sinned, Jesus died for me to pay the price for my sin, Jesus rose again to defeat death, I need to decide to live for God!
Justin Welby needs to take careful stock of his doctrine. We must pray for him, he's in serious trouble. He's experiencing a crisis of faith. He's become confused and is using very emotive words, not sure where he's get the facts from for his ungrounded prophesy. 🙏✝️
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. No need for the Rock of Peter and his successors. Thank you Martin Luther
judgment begins at the house of the Lord....1 Peter 4vs17 if the salt loses it saltiness, it is no good except to be thrown out in the streets and trampled on by men..Matthew 5v13-13-16 May God judge these evil men in His church and me we all see it ... Father in Jesus name I pray!
We need to spiritually fight against bullying in the church by clergy and the whims of ordinary people. God didn't change His Word. Having a designated gender stands. There is a reason why God said, " man shall not lay with man!" We should, in the church , not be celebrating gay union. All people yes, God loves all people but not the sin, the sexual sin and churches are bowing to pressure to accept more sin into the church and this is bringing the church down to satans level! All clergy should not be afraid to speak the truth of the lord!
The Anglican Church made it its core business to please the world from its begining some 500 years ago. Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
Sounds like he’s lying to me 😢 to say that he’s been bullied by the politicians, if that is true it means he’s putting them and the gay community before God, this is not good, difficult job or not what he’s done is wrong by condoning sin and causing disunity in the church, all of this it making me feel so sad.
He occupies the position of men like Beckett and Cranmer, oh that he would follow the latter's example when he realised his error and failure of nerve - and received grace even to thrust the hand that wrote his initial capitulation into the flames first.
Why so complicated? Just obey God,why all the talk with government ,their opinion is nothing.Only the Lords will matters.Also why is there women preacher’s in the church when God forbids them to preach?? So sad the totally disobedient of men with power that will have to give account to GOD for leading people to hell .
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. Thank you Martin Luther
I have only recently come to my faith and I am learning. I just don’t have any confidence in attending any church because of what the CoE is allowing. I feel desperately sad about this. I do know that Jesus said “But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No. ' For whatever is more than these is from the evil one”. It seems Archbishop Welby has forgotten this advice, by giving different messages to different people. What’s happening? In my personal opinion I agree with this statement “If we marry the spirit of the age in our generation we will be a widow in the next” I think Justin Welby has done SO much damage. I am praying for him🙏
Hi Rev Dan, I find your coment you placed .ore or less a disclaimer and sadly yes a cop-out. Has someone from up above had a word with you. God bless I am praying for you and the Anglican church. 🙂
Given what we have seen in Vatican II (a separate church in and of itself, that can no longer be described as truly Catholic) and watching events in the C of E, as a traditional (non-Vatican II) Catholic myself, I saw the signs of this very on, so I would guess that this is self-inflicted, as he, just like Pope Francis, has failed in his primary duty to preach the Gospel, yet his fate has not been as severe as what has happened to Archbishop Vigano - much of this reminds me of the disagreement between Saint Pope John Paul II and Archbishop Romero over liberation theology - an inherently good and holy man as Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI had similar issues when trying to keep dialogue open with traditional Catholics in the SSPX (Archbishop Leferve) but realised that it was too late, which is why he dramatically stepped down - we could very well see similar happening with Archbishop Welby here
Index of Attitudes toward Homosexuals was positively correlated with results from the Sexual Attitude Scale, the Disgust Emotion Scale and the Padua Inventory. Subjects who showed homophobic tendencies on the IAH also displayed conservative sexual attitudes, elevated levels of disgust and dread of contamination. It's the "ick" factor that drives them as well as internalized hatred.
I did not leave the Church of England I now attend the Church of England who have cut ties with the group who support the bishops and Archbishop of Canterbury . This man has forgotten its about Jesus , Jesus, he is playing on people emotions. Justin Welby should stand up against the parliament , he fears man , he first put the blame on the Queen Now he blames parliament . The Archbishop of Canterbury have no back bone against the evils of parliament. He has split the Church of England .
Thomas A Becket Preferred Martyrdom to bowing to the authority of the King. Today we have a King and a parliament with parliament wielding the main power to deliberate on the issue of same sex marriage. Marriage is ordained and sanctified by God. Jesus when He Hung in agony on the cross illustrated how He valued marriage by these words; "When Jesus therefore saw His Mother and the disciple whom he Loved standing by, He said to His mother, "Woman behold you son!" 'Then He said to the disciple, "Behold your mother!" 'And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home'. Sometimes resignation from your office may be preferable to walking a tightrope in order to please everyone. God's Truth clearly represented on The Cross by His Son, our Savior The Lord Jesus Christ will prevail. Praise God and Bless His Holy City Jerusalem. For God so Loved the world. E.John.B.
There are lots of pretences by the Archbishop: he roped the pope in making statements that are now rocking the Catholic Church. In the end Jesus ' teachings would prevail.
He's not validly ordained or recognised by catholic and orthodox christians. Also he's not the successor of St Augustine of Canterbury. The catholic see of Canterbury was abolished following the death of Reginald Pole the last catholic Abp of Canterbury.
Rev Dan, you seem to sit on the fence yourself. The Rev Archbishop to the Seychelles would not lie. Only the supporter of same sex blessings - Acbp Welby must be speaking - one thing in private, a different thing to the newspapers. ‘Walking the tight line’ is exactly what the Rev Dan is doing. An inconclusive verdict on the machinations of the C of E. Rev. Dan, there is such a thing as right and wrong, truth and falsehood. Lord Jesus Christ Son of the living God , have mercy on me a sinner.
Whatever Welby said or didn’t say is immaterial. The word of God is clear on the matter. It is inviolate. Anglicans can only accept this or be counted as apostates. Those are the only options. There cannot be any communion with apostates
So, Rev Dan, do you have anyone in your congregation who has divorced and remarried? Jesus expressly forbade remarriage and yet evangelicals have accepted this change in the church's teaching with hardly a murmer. They have accepted the argument that you have to understand the whole teaching of the Bible, not just part, that you can't simply cut and paste a few verses out of context. So why is this issue the hill to die on? People of the same gender will still not be able to marry in church. No one will force you to bless them. I would imagine, given the grudging way in which this small concession has been made, that very few people will want to take advantage of it. Some people think differently to you, get off your high horse and get over it.
In my opinion there is no argument at all. All anyone has to do is read the Bible, it tells all one needs to know when it comes to this issue. The Archbishop is wrong, he is supposed to feed his sheep, if he cannot or will not do that he should give up his job. If not one day he will answer to God why he deceived his flock. Surely he understands that, if not he is not a Christian.
Justin Welby said people would die if Synod voted through this heresy, then he voted for it himself, meaning that he is happy to see Christians die because of the sins of the C of E (of which I am, at the moment, a member). In my view, he should resign and allow a real believer in God's teaching to take over. After all, faith without works is dead.
Lol... This is not walking a tight line... This same choice was made once long ago. As I recall it did not work out so well for those choosing self over fealty.... Seem to recall something or other about being dragged in front of rulers and magistrates and how you should respond.... Hmm.. now where was that.. ? ... seriously...
The entire Anglican Communion has one rule and guide to Faith, practice and Salvation; the Holy Bible... perhaps the ABC and his advisors should spend more time there rather than at other pursuits?
So the coronation ceremony are very much stained by the unclean hands of JW. For God cannot give blessings to the unclean. The right thing is to rebuke sin instead of covering it up. The offensive way need to be exposed. The monarch is on a downward spiral
hE HAS NOT SPREAD THE GOSPEL, CLOSING CHURCHES SHOWS THIS, TO AFRAID OF OFFENDING AND ALLOWING THE WORLD TO DICTATE. Jesus WAS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT OFFENDING.
With regular and fair church elections, things are voted 🗳️ in every church. One law or opinions are never sway over all churches, perhaps truth is difficult to understand? The communion of churches is stronger then anyone person.
What do you think? You asked the question leading or lying? why not have the courage of your convictions and give a straight opinion. !! For goodness sake,
The presenter seems a little inebriated ! If not, you must admit he has difficulty expressing himself at times. If that is so, why should we pay attention to his commentary ?
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. Thank you Martin Luther
How can you reconcile the righteous of God of homosexuality practice, how can you reconcile the church of Christ which Jesus said the gates of hell will not over come it, if parliament has threaten the archbishop he should have remembered the those words, because it’s important that the obedient of God comes before people, so in that sense the archbishop should have resigned
Who summoned him? Who has the right to do so? Or was this just an excuse and more virtue-signalling from a man who seems to glory in it. He is certainly a complex character but one begins to wonder about backbone and integrity.
Yes Rev Dan thank you for this video , prayer is certainly needed for the Archbishop ( who has been very open on the radio and in lectures about his struggles with depression) but for all at this time of struggle around the result of the Bishops' vote which meant that neither church members or clergy or same sex marriage campaigners were satisfied. There is no 'one suits all' solution here which will bring and keep folks together, the consequences of this situation are harmful to everyone . I hear the concern of the Bishop in this video for the churches in Nigeria facing Boko Haram , a frightening prospect, equally I think of the new Death Penalty law against homosexuals passed in Uganda and shouldn't churches in the worldwide communion make some sort of protest against that? To show compassion , act justly , live as salt and light are biblical acts , so prayer and action is surely needed to move forward. With all respect to politicians their role is a secular one . Disestablishment of the C of E looks probable now I think.
The only prayer he needs is for him to be able to humble himself and repent! He'd find relief from his depression if he actually started to take the Bible seriously and WANT to please God rather than man!
@@bigd5090 What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. No need for the Rock of Peter and his successors. Thank you Martin Luther
@@DD-bx8rb The Anglican/Protestant Communion is doing just fine under Jesus Christ without an un-Biblical Apostle Paul replacement thanks. The Bible is a good basis to govern a church i.e. accountable spiritual focused eldership with deacons helping with practical issues. The problem is the CofE don't seem to respect the Bible and it's led to their demise.
@@bigd5090 On the contrary, the practice of Bible as Final Authority is not "a good basis to govern a church". Rather, it leads to thousands of versions of "truth" and continual division. You bemoan the C of E "not respecting the Bible", yet you must admit every group that sincerely practices Bible As Final Authority arrives at different doctrinal conclusions. The practice, by it's very nature, cannot, has not, provided the infallible doctrinal truth which Jesus Christ promised to lead us in. The practice is a 500 year old failed practice, which is clearly of Satan.
@@DD-bx8rb The Bible clearly describes acceptable human relationship statuses in 1 Corinthians 7:1-7. Either you undertake sexual activity in marriage (equals one man and one woman) or you follow a call to celibacy (the favoured position since you can devote more time to God but if you have desires to be married then you should desire that instead). The fact that the CofE reject this teaching means they ARE heretics! They no longer represent Jesus and are instead people pleasers! They are at best 'lukewarm' and we know where that leads!
