Did the British Kill Glenn Miller? 

That is great!!!

Music keeps you young.

That's amazing. Thank you for sharing that. What a blessing that he's doing so well. ❤️

Whoa - I recognize the name! Good for him. If you know him, give him a punch in the arm (firm but gentle) from a fan

Whoa - I recognize the name! Good for him. If you know him, give him a punch in the arm (firm but gentle) from a fan

Thank you, for your service to our nation.

@@stephenslusser2895 You are welcome. I only wish we had had a better outcome. Take care.

Thank you for what you did! God Bless

What about a V1, V2, German Flak Gun, or Allied AA gun? The Germans launched hundreds if not thousands of V1’s or V2’s against Antwerp so friendly fire could have come from an Allied AA gun in Belgium or Holland. Not to mention a Luftwaffe plane pursing Allied aircraft returning from a bombing or a strafing mission over German occupied territory.

Thank you sir.

Ah yes... But can you name the comedian? Mmm?

@@patagualianmostly7437 Nope, no clue. I only remembered it because my grandfather thought it was the funniest thing ever. If you know please tell me.

Spike Milligan ?

Yes. He had no need to. He did his bit..... "The day the music died" It happens for many generations. Glenn Miller...... the first? Jim Morrison. Janis Joplin. Jimi Hendrix. Amy Winehouse....

This is wonderful story! Thanks for sharing!

Do you remember a favorite story?

Are they written down ?

@@GhettoCabbage Yeah, she worked in a factory that assembled torpedos.

@@RobTheNotary I recorded a lot before she died.

True, this man does his homework.

That is a fact sir

And he makes so many videos 👌

True my boy Mace

@@nuclear9977 Glenn Miller represents to me everything perfect about the jazz, swing, and big band age. Noble, humble, and patriotic. It's incredibly unfortunate that such a bright, talented, and charitable mind lost his life so early and during such popularity. Even as a 19 year old, I mourn him.

In The Mood has to be one of the most iconic and greatest tunes of the 20th Century and of all time. RIP

@@pyrtwistPyrtwistWorldInMotion Indeed. It is in my top three list of favorite songs I've ever listened to. Truly a masterclass in music. I hope we can return the humbleness of his music someday.

@@maeson676 Agree. He could have rode out the war making Bond Drive and movie morale boosters. But, he volunteered to serve those inducted into the war effort. For me, that is something very rare among celebrities. Take care.

I read somewhere that 'little boy' was made by the Japanese who dropped it on themselves because they felt guilty after Okinawa, and The Manhatten project was actually a plan to build a miniature train with track running from Los Angeles too San Francisco?

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DiBlasio has real estate interests involved with his lockdown strategy... expect a lot of shuttered buildings to be gobbled up.

I've never been to New York, just out of curiosity, why would you consider the MSG building fugly? I've always considered wanting to see an event there at least once.

@@thomasmarciano6133 Look at images of Pennsylvania Station and MSG. The difference is amazing, a beautiful structure vs that awful building today. MSG is just awful looking.

Penn Station demolished? Isn't that the famous station in every classic American movie/TV series?. Beautiful building. Is it really gone?

@@wexfordgirl1 Your'e thinking of Grand Central Station.

But surely his music wasn't that bad we had to snuff him out 🎶🙏🎧👀🇺🇸

Both my mother and father loved Glen Miller's music.

Corn!

Amazing story! Thanks for sharing it.

I would hope you and Professor Felton will collaborate on a further exploration of the circumstances surrounding Glenn Miller’s fatal flight. Thank you for your Comment. Roy Lewis Buffalo, NY

Fascinating!

That's amazing... ...what did he think about the disappearance?

Imagine your father hearing Glenn Miller's music on the radio set while he was flying/crashing nearby.

you don't have to be stiff to be dead!

@@chuckh5999 or dead to be stiff :)

Hope he came before he went....

No he was the Elvis of the day. He didn't need to pay for it. British girls were throwing themselves at him.

@@456swagger No doubt..Glenn Miller never left a performance alone unless he wanted to be..

same here. i've just used G.Millers Chattanooga choo choo for one of my vids. now i'm very surprised to hear that....

Except the dropped-bomb hypothesis has been pretty will discredited in the 40+ years since it came out. Felton is doing a huge disservice by repeating it.

I never knew this, either. I DID know of his music, but had no idea he went missing. That's really tragic.

Keep an open mind. "Discredited" is a big, mysterious word. I've seen all your comments, so no need to repost all that stuff. @@Poisson4147

IF it was the concussion wave from bombs, which presumably continued, there wouldn't have been much left of the plane. Whereas IF you set off in a single engined aeroplane of questionable serviceability into poor met and with no flight plan You are signing up for a slot on the Darwin Awards. Pilot error? More like Pilot totally reckless arrogance. Think of the series of lunacies which led to Emiliano Sala dying.

Yes, I was enlightened to find that Rock and Roll came out of this and Western Swing, of which Bill Hayley was a proponent.

Appropriated... Jazz was never the creation of middle class white men.

@@yt.personal.identification Too bad... Middle class suburban communities and life was never meant for Blizacks

@@yt.personal.identification "Appropriated" You sound like a commie.

@@napiersh1 You sound like you need a dictionary.

Only 1% of the population knows what a 78 is nowadays

@@nickmalone3143 78s had the best sound quality. Alas, the shortest recording time.

The Glenn Miller Orchestra still tours - we heard them in NJ in September. If you get the opportunity, go hear them. They're fabulous!

In The Mood ( which is the tune Mark F opens this video with) is a v famous tune of the Miller band. Pity you'd never heard it before now. My mother told me everyone was crazy for it in the world ( where it could be heard that is). I'm an Aussie

If you see The Origibal Glen Miller Orchestra be sure to go and hear them. I saw them about four years ago. They're amazing!

Look up the story of the tanker Ohio, which was crippled during Operation Pedestal but was still dragged into Malta. The Ohio's captain owned a small record collection. Whilst the crew worked on the stricken sinking vessel, the captain played Miller's records over the tannoy to keep their spirits up.

Me too. My dad was in the Army, my mother worked in a defense plant making fighter planes. I grew up listening to Miller’s music as a child, and hearing it always takes me back. A sad story.

Fabulous story ... thank you for your contribution to enable that concert.

Given that they weren’t supposed to, they probably didn’t tell anybody 🤣

Oh yes, Clint Eastwood's story.

@@danielkaranja7978 I was about to type Clint's name. LOL.

Here's one. My parents met in 1968 at Valley Forge Army Hospital, in Pennsylvania, during the Vietnam War. Dad was US Army, he had already served one tour (1 year) in country as a medic, while Mom was a nurse. After they'd dated for a while, Mom got cold feet about the relationship and enlisted in the Army, volunteering to serve as a nurse in Vietnam. She did this because she wanted to serve and get away from him for a while. Mom duly joined the Army and was sent to South Vietnam. Meanwhile, Dad was still stationed at Valley Forge. After some months, he decided he really did love her, so he put in a request to go back to Vietnam in hopes of being stationed near her. While in Tokyo during transit to South Vietnam, Dad started suffering from severe chest pain, probably due to the stress of getting close to getting back to the war. Dad was career Army and he knew how to make things happen and he was therefore able to get a message to Mom, telling her he was in a hospital in Tokyo and would be there several days while they tested his heart, etc. By now Mom had come to realize that as an Army nurse in Vietnam, she had a lot of leeway to misbehave, what were they going to do to her, send her to Vietnam? She was stationed at Chu Lai, a large US base with an airfield and medical facilities. First she arranged for her absence to be covered for 48 hours. Then she told some pilots that she needed to get to Tokyo to see her boyfriend. As luck would have it, there was a cargo aircraft going to Tokyo, the catch was the aircraft had only 3 working engines and was going to Tokyo for repairs. The crew was willing to take her along, unofficially, of course. (She was a pretty white woman in South Vietnam, the men bent over backwards for her). The flight itself was uneventful. Mom got to visit Dad in Tokyo. They affirmed their love for one another. Mom cannot remember how on earth she got back to Chu Lai, but she was back in 48 hours, bearing gifts for the nurses who'd covered for her, with her commanding officer none the wiser, or perhaps simply turning a blind eye. Dad's heart was fine, he made it to South Vietnam and after much wrangling, managed to have himself stationed at Chu Lai so that they could be together. They were married while on leave in Honolulu a few months later. I came along a few years after that.

Good point

Indeed - I've been doing some internet reading about this and the 'south jettison area' story and the Portland fisherman's tale both seem not to hold water.

He died in the arms of a Parisian prostitute.

@@cascade3769 According to the Nazi propaganda ministry, yes. According to actual history, no.

Glenn Miller had his post war german fans as well, i grew up in the sixties with lots of Glenn Miller and liked it a lot even as an 8 year old, with the advent of the 70's, pop music took over though, guess i am in for a Glenn Miller revival. During the war, my hometown hamburg was well known for the "swing kids" that were opposed to the fascist regime and avid Swing music aficionados.

In the German airforce swing music, especially Glenn Miller was very popular.

The Allies actually had the Germans fooled with some of their radio broadcasts. They had a station called "Atlantic Sender" which the Germans thought was one of theirs. This was part of the Allies Psy Ops. They'd play music, and read announcements (in German) about the hometowns of U-boat sailors, etc, so there would've been a few Germans who were exposed to music from the Allied side. Apart from that, of course, the German population could've tuned into the BBC or the equivalent to the AFRTS. Even though the very affordable radios available to the public, e.g. Volksempfänger, were a bit deaf (purposely, to keep down costs but the government only wanted the people to listen to German stations) they'd still hear further away after dark with an external antenna. However; listening to foreign stations was a crime in Germany after the war started, so one would've had to be very careful about when to listen, with whom to listen, and to whom to speak about it.

The British soldiers were also very fond of ‘Lili Marlene’, though according to my Dad the translation of the words wasn’t always as clean as it might be… :)

@@bob_the_bomb4508 Yes I can attest to that - my dad (English) used to call her Marlene Dirtybitch as an term of endearment!

I am always "Hot and Ready" (original name of the song) for a Felton vid.

And Moonlight Serenade

"In The Mood" is definitely my favorite of the Glenn Miller songs. I'd probably say "Chattanooga Choo Choo" comes in second, but to be fair, I'm a fan of "Choo Choo" as just a song itself regardless of who's playing/singing it. But Glenn Miller's "In The Mood" is the best version of that particular song.

@@skyden24195 My favorite was "Kalamazoo", I went to college in Kalamazoo!

@@skyden24195 American Patrol is also really fun, and of course Begin the Beguine.

Occam's razos sounds like a "theory" that was invented by a psychopath who hide their shite in complexity.

The timing could be explained by the difference between the US using Local time, while the RAF using GMT. That would give an hour discrepancy in record keeping

My thoughts exactly. Why make up an incident of Fratricide?

Good mystery hard to beat. I am leaning to carburetors icing up or just wing icing if not both & took a deep hard dive into ocean. If so they didn't feel much pain. That plane did not have the update yet on carb icing problem to fix it. Bottom line that plane never should took off to start with. Plus Battle Bulge just starting & caught Allies by surprise & everybody got busy trying stop it to save there careers. Ike was at a Wedding drinking heard that from numerous sources when news of major new offensive action taking place. Glenn music sadly took a seat in the main back on the long bus of important problems wise. Plane crew & passagers sadly took the wrong time, wrong place to take a huge chance. Be nice to solve it.

@@Pfsif That comment you just made is hilariously silly considering what Occam's Razor states...

2 soon man

How about “clicking faster then America’s withdraw from Afghanistan”?

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Excellent

@@aarondrennan5650 well...., remember this was signed in a paper previosly, the withdrawal.

That is a great story Fred!

My father Louis Haas, was in the 65th infantry, he entered his service as a musician, and landed in La Havre France shortly after D-Day, pulling up the rear after the initial landing. He saw battle, and one day after all the medics got shot up, there was a command to send the band out as medics, which was certain death, the general in command intervened and pulled the band out, as he didn’t want to lose his musicians.

I would NEVER buy into the "French brothel theory." It was just a campaign by some EVIL people to smear his name. It is done WAY too often. It's nice that your town continues to honor his memory.

@@ValerieGrinerThe brothel story doesn't even pass the most basic logic tests. Nobody saw the plane land at Villacoublay, no car was requested for a transfer to Paris, and the other two occupants were never seen anywhere at any point. Miller was no saint (witness his involvement with British pop singer Dorothy Carless) but the idea that he'd arrive in Paris days behind schedule, then waste yet more time on a bit of rumpy-pumpy is just bonkers.

It wouldn’t be unusual either, apparently his contemporary, George Gershwin, never married but worked his way through hundreds of professionals!

The story is an old muso chestnut and been around for decades. Glenn may have been rockin' it up in Paris with a large portion and had heart failure for his troubles. Another supposition is that he knew about the confidential movements of the 'American Patrol', so any factual military investigation was kept to a very low profile. Report likely under lock and key.

A much better way to go than the Lancaster theory. Imagine his final minute in that scenario from his perspective. It would have been utterly terrifying, but spectacular in a grim sort of way.

The Paris brothel story does not explain the disappearance of the other two men on the plane.

Reminds me of when Charlie Sheen was being sentenced for using a prostitute, the judge asked him why a man like him would have to pay for sex. Sheen said: “I don’t pay them for sex. I pay them to leave.”

If Fred Shaw saw the Norseman spin in, why didn't he report it to Air Sea rescue? Not doing so would have been a courts martial offense.

@@michaelplanchunas3693 As stated in this essay, the tail gunner and/or the navigator reported it to the A/C commander. It would be his duty to report the event.

@@michaelplanchunas3693 It was reported but nothing came of it because the USAAF and the RAF worked on different zones and probably didn't realise it at the time

This is an early war version of the Norseman, I concur completely with Rayns 1, this is a very sturdy, icing condition capable aircraft, unlikely to go down easily. They are still flown year round, commercially and privately all over Canada, many times at very low altitude and in tough weather conditions. They and their Beaver cousins are now being converted to glass cockpits and fly by wire technology, much of it by Viking Air in Victoria BC. Very nostalgic to see a video of one, I was raised in the north spending a lot of childhood in these planes.

Jettisoned ordnance is armed?

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Looks like pilot error in the first place: inappropriate weather, sloppy navigation, poor maintenance record on the aircraft. What a shame!

Since the advent of the Internet unfortunately people see a conspiracy before they even research the subject. The culture of it is huge now, almost like a religion to some people. I know intelligent well educated people who now believe some of the craziest conspiracies with a frightening passion. I used to laugh at them, but it's so common now it's all a bit scary, i.e. Qanon, etc. My English Grandma used to love Glen Miller.

@@ianjacka469 well. You have to have some indication or indirect proof. If not people are just guessing and making up stories that comfort thier view point. Some times there is stuff to conspiracies, there is a lot we aren't aware of. But, you have to have enough evidence or motive behind a conspiracy for me to even consider it as remotely true. We will never know exactly what happened but one way or another it appears to be an accident. There is no evidence or witnesses to say Glenn wasn't more than an entertainer determined to entertain the troops. There is no reason to take it beyond that and believe he and Elvis were on a secret cia mission to battle aliens at the Nazi moon base. Lol

@@kevinstrade2752 Definitely, there are many conspiracies I believe in myself, JFK, Princess Diana, Epstein's 'suicide'. But as you say there has to be some solid motives and inconsistent evidence for me to even look into them. The problem lies in that a lot of the crazy conspiracies have some strands of truth in them, and public faith in the people in power is at an all time low in modern times.

Talk about bringing validity to that theory...wow.

I was raised in N Ontario and flew in these planes all the time. They are the workhorses of the north, and could handle a lot of very tough weather conditions. I'm not sure B Hut is saying it was carburator issues . I'm not aware of the incident that took his dad's life. Whenever a plane goes down in the north, it's a pretty big deal. Quite often it's a well known commercial pilot without whom supplies and transport would not be possible. Thank you for posting, condolences and wishing you the best.

Many thanks!

Bone spurs. Or stick two pencils up your nose and put some underpants on your head. And say wibble.

@@russelledwards001 works every time!

@@russelledwards001 Or volunteer for a "reprisal" raid against the peaceful pygmies of M'boutu gorge?

Ring your old mate Haig who rescued asking for advice on how to get out of doing your duty.

"Shuddup, You Meadthead!" "You too, Dingbat!" 😉😁😜

As some who isn't 30 yet, i'm glad I watched all of All in the Family, I wish people weren't so sensitive today so they could do a reboot or something similar (although they did recreate an episode on Kimmel with Woody Harrelson as Archie that was pretty good).

@@madmodder123 The thing is, not only was the show funny, but like a family sitcom would be, this also had life lessons on marriage, family, religion, tolerance and frustration to racial topics that were addressed. When it turned into Archie's Place, after the the main show after Edith died, Archie started to not only be racially tolerant, but he began siding with and defending people of color and other ethnic backgrounds. Yet at the same time, it was funny an entertaining. The thing about the show, was not that it was racist or anything, it just tried to show some of the awkwardness situations that there were at the times and made it humorous.

@@hoozerob Yeah totally. If they even tried to do that today the cancel culture clowns would immediately try to shut it down. It is a real shame

@@madmodder123 Yeah. I know. If you grew up back in the '70's, we just didn't have any of this going on like it is today. Come to think of it, we didn't have it till that next guy after Bush took over the white house. I guess I don't need to say who.. But that's when all this nonsense started happening. There ARE NO racial, gay, religious issues today! It's all been fabricated by those in government and their sponsors, to ensure they win and keep control! America knows by now that it all those issues are bogus. Same thing with climate change. Yeah, there is some, but not nearly to the extreme of what they say it is!. It's variant, all through time and history.

Great story! Thank you for sharing with us

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What I'd like to know is...WHY he would have taken that dangerous flight if everything we hear is a "NO GO"...(the pilot/ the plane/plane's engine/weather/bombs being dropped/unapproved flight, etc.)??? Was it an old-fashioned case of "get-there-itis?" Just wondering...

That is a good point. Why would the Army list him dead if they did not know? You would think they would list him as MIA.Strange! :)

Tyler Satterfield - Can’t count the number of times that line went through my mind as I watched this documentary! Much respect for Mr. Miller & his beautiful music, but Bea Arthur’s delivery of that line keeps me in stitches.

Ricky Nelson, Buddy Holly, Jim Croce, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Otis Redding, et al.

'Fresh as a Daisy" was the title of one of Miller's 78 RPM records way back when.

I think it is much easier to find a steel ocean liner than a mostly aluminum small plane.

It's too bad the fishermen didn't record more details about the plane but maybe it was badly damaged or the markings faded from having been submerged so long.

The Norseman was a steel tube framed fabric covered plane with a fabric covered wing. And if it was caught in the detonation of 14 tons of bombs, plus impact, Little to no chance of finding anything resembling a plane after 77 years.

@@idontcareanymore2754 Add to that the depth at which the plane would've sank, compared to the depth at which the _RMS Titanic_ sank - very difference environments when it comes to corrosion. Also, any fisherman bringing up a war wreck would need to be very wary: how would they know whether the plane they're dredging up has ammunition still onboard, and how stable would that ammunition be?

I never heard that "tall tale!" Wow!

I'd seriously consider saying "Hey, I need only $5k each week to live in luxury and pay the mortgage - I'll buy war bonds with the remaining $295k and fund another B29 bomber or part of a warship or something."

What did you and your nan do in a brothel in the late sixties?

When you say "gifts".....

I was thinking something similar. Assuming that the reports by the RAF aircrew are accurate, if it wasn't Miller's plane which was inadvertently destroyed by the RAF, who's plane was it? There should be a record of another missing Norseman somewhere if it wasn't his. It's difficult to imagine that nobody has checked that out, though.

@@silentotto5099 It would be a very slim chance that another Norseman would be flying in the same vicinity as Miller's and which also was downed so perhaps they really had mistaken the plane's model? It is sad that not much investigations were made back when the incident occured, seeing as how Miller was such an influential star but I guess the war effort had taken its toll on the amount of resources that could be spared to find him Seeing as how Miller is now an icon of the past, it wouldn't be surprising that not many people are as invested (with time and money for continual investigations) into finding out the truth to confirm all these theories we have now

anyway of getting a fix on the approximate crash location?

Also who the heck was in the other Norseman if it wasn't Miller's plane?

@@aaronvenn8660 could have been anything from a training flight, a mechanical test flight, a mail courier...heck who knows??

Given the location of the Greenwich Meridian, "local" time in the areas talked about would have been virtually the same as GMT....not sure how an hours difference can come into it, unless the US forces were using a different time ZONE...which makes little sense.

Normally, British time is GMT during winter and British Summer Time (BST) during summer. BST is the same as GMT +1. But, in 1944 GMT was never used in Britain where "War Time" was in effect during WWII. During War Time, time was advanced an additional hour all year long. In December of 1944 the time would have been GMT +1. In July of 1944 the time would have been GMT +2. At any rate, I can't imagine the many Allied aviators serving in Britain were running on different time zones depending on nationality. The Allies had been working together to fly countless missions out of Britain for five years.

Agreed, I think it was the PMS channel here in Kentucky.

@@formerparatrooper I recall the story appearing on one of the major TV networks (CBS, NBC or ABC).

@@WAL_DC-6B You may be right. My memory is going to be slightly foggy as we have not watched any of those channels or listened to the indoctrination they dress up as news in years, they have all gone to the dark side.

@@formerparatrooper gone to the dark side they have, but Jedi there still are.

I thought that the fisherman that found this aircraft, reported that the wings were intact, so the bombardier must have been confused?

I thought I was on the wrong channel for a second

Synchronicity.

Check out the movie with Jimmy Stewart portraying him as well please !....."The Glenn Miller Story"......

@@nicholausbuthmann1421 Jimmy Stewart should be the subject of a whole Mark Felton episode himself.

BUT, Glenn Miller is forever mentioned on All in the Family

@@warlaker those were the days.

Without going into too much detail on another site I mentioned my own theory of Baby Boomers having a syndrome I call "World War Two Envy." All agreed. I won't go into details about my theory unless others are interested, but your comment of "...a nostalgia for an era most of us were not part of" made me think of my theory.

@@wayneantoniazzi2706 I'm not a baby boomer, I was born long after this period, nor do I have any envy for those who suffered through this period of history and longing to be a part of it, I merely pointed out this music is so evocative of the period that it can create nostalgia for it even in those who were not there (not different from some iconic 60s pop music creating similar feelings for example), but thanks for just being so presumptious that A) I am a Baby Boomer (nope) and B) that I have WWII envy (no, I have read far too much history to have that, I have no rose tinted spectacles on).

@@joegordon5117 Now now, I never presumed you were a Boomer as I am, nor do I assume you have WW2 Envy, but let me explain myself. Looking back at the WW2 era, and even though we knew of the horrors and heartbreak of the same, Boomers like myself also saw other things. It was a time of giants and leaders you could look up to. Roosevelt, Churchill, Eisenhower, Marshall, Nimitz, Halsey, I could go on and on. The bad guys were REAL bad guys like Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, and others. (Stalin. Good guy? Bad guy? Couldn't be sure.) It was a time of a "Black-and-white" cause with no ambiguity. Not so with Boomers in the Vietnam Era. And our leaders of THAT time? No way they matched the WW2 ones. WW2 also seemed to us to be a time when the whole country pulled together to accomplish a mission. I don't have to tell you what the 1960's were like. And now we come to the music of the era. MORE giants. Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, Harry James, and so many others who's music sounded just as good 30 years later as it did in the 1940's. And the great machines of the time like the B-17, the P-51, the Spitfire, the great aircraft carriers and battleships, the Sherman tank, all legends in their own right. And think about the classic films made at the time and their larger-than-life stars! "Turner Classic Movies" is so successful for a very good reason. Add all this together and we couldn't help but think we missed something unique that would never come again. And it wasn't for nothing that one of my favorite aviation historians, Edward Jablonski, a WW2 combat veteran and no wet-behind-the-ears kid called the era "The bittersweet years of war." They weren't all good by a long shot, but they weren't all bad either. (Depending who and where you were of course.) And somehow, considering the popularity of WW2-themed video games I think there's still a slight bit of WW2 envy in the current generation. I hope I've explained myself. As I said, I stated all of the above on another site, and all who read it of the Boomer generation (including one psychologist) agreed with me.

@@wayneantoniazzi2706 ah, fair enough, initially thought you were saying this of me, wrong end of the stick!

No bro, sarcastically speaking Brits could've done anything includes fooling the US & Canada forcing them to attend to the European war like a slave, and no one could've said a word!

to be fair , if it was the Lancaster story, it's not their fault at all, the Pilot was flying through a Bomb Jettison zone in a War Zone. The Pilot of Miller's plane would be at fault, who probably didn't get clearance and went his own route.

I say, steady on old chap !

@@davidrenton Doesn't matter if it was their fault or not, the matter is if Brits and Churchill kept their war and extreme mindsets to themselves millions of lives would've never been wasted!

Does it? Well, as a 'Brit', I reckon the USA's butchering of the ENGLISH language means WE should have declared war long, long ago! ;-)

Similarly to Glenn Miller, Pat Tillman gave up his NFL career to enlist after 9/11. Tillman lost his life in Afghanistan.

The Goon show made countless Glenn Miller references when it was on the air decades ago, as most of the cast were both musicians and big fans of Miller during the war.

One would think the plane was specialized for cold weather and operation over water.

@@irvhh143 Cold weather? Well a cabin heater, yeah. And an oil dilution system as was the custom at the time, but lots of airplanes had those things. On and off water, but not long range flights over water. In bush operations it's mostly flights over thousands of lakes littering the boreal forest. The Norseman, like the Beaver was optimized for easy servicing and loading from a dock while on floats, although the Beaver was better at it.

There are several related comments on this, down the rabbit hole. England is the size of one Canadian province. Crossing the channel should've been routine.If carb icing was a problem, the Norse would have a bad reputation for it. Bad fuel seems unlikely as England was a giant airfield at the time.

"Moral bombing" with a twist.

Yeah but we assumed it was the Gerries who took him out.

@@marktwain368 might be true? But it’s more like a shock wave could of because the plane was still recognised intact enough to be recognised later on!

There are incidences where bombs (inert or otherwise) struck planes below them. There's evidence here and there, e.g. famous picture of a B17 on mission over Europe - still flying with half its horizontal stabiliser (tail) missing, the war memoirs of bomber command navigator whose colleague returned some months after escaping as a POW in Germany: "What happened?" "Bombs were dropped on us, only two of us got out and the other bloke is still a POW." It happened.

@@vk2ig Yes, of course everyone knows that happened. Rarely. With hundreds of bombers every day and night for years, traveling in the exact same direction, same speed, in close formation, with the bombs dropped directly onto a plane less than 100 feet directly below the other. But this case would be one lone target plane, with many thousands of feet of vertical separation and completely different directional and speed vectors. Not really the same odds, is it?

Hmm, the idea of loads of undetonated bombs drifting through the sea is perhaps a worse thought!

@@silvesby They just sink straight to the bottom and sit there forever, un-armed. They are way too dense to float, so they cannot drift anywhere.

@@Darrylx444 Yeah, I reckon so. Wouldn't be a place I'd dive anytime though, for sure