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The fact Michael dealt with the mob his whole life and people thought he was a mush brain lmao. He saw so much and lived a hard life to achieve what he wanted. High price on fame. Rest in Peace King.
An offer he couldn’t refuse - more friendship than fear, Handled like a gentleman. Love is always better than fear -Great lesson there -peace brother🙏🏼
Also do history on Mario Puzo, nYc is the setting for his safety and the people who backed him, like the tv show gomorra. AL Capone coined this phrase, it is annoying to hear Michael say it and people think it’s a part of New York history and Art
When people know the mafia's power and position, just showing up is threatening in and of itself. No violence or direct threats are needed when they know how the mafia operates.
Note: Mr. Michael would never have made this video if Mr. Sammy didn't mention it. Just shows how many events in Mr. Michael's life that we are not aware of. So many adventures...so many "Thrillers" (Pun intended)
*I’m sure Sammy is watching it and will make his own reaction video.😆He seems to be a fan of the channel because he’s always mentioning a video Michael puts out and what he thinks about it.*
I don’t disagree with what you’re saying but I don’t think it’s necessarily true in this situation. This is all public and has been known for a while now.
@@MonsMedia I’d say the majority of his followers don’t really know about his past though and what and who he’s been involved with throughout those years.
Sammy: You’re not a tough guy Michael!” oh wait.. he shook down MJ??? Sammy again, “And you tried to shake down Michael Jackson!” (With his best self righteous tone)…
Was 100% a Sammy fan before all this mafia states of America thing but now watching how u conduct urself Michael u have definitely won me over class act u are sir 👏👏
In Godfather movies with Johnny Fontane situation & the guy who owned the apartments they were approached with respect first. If you do this for me I'll do this for you. They only got ruffled up after refusing
I worked at a men’s clothing store in Bensonhurst Brooklyn in the 90’s that was basically the haberdashery for the mafia. I witnessed quite a few situations that scared the poop outta me! Looking back now I really had no idea how many high up connected guys frequented that establishment while I worked there.
On a sitdown with Chazz, they talked about being approached by the mob. Chazz refused and it was alright, at which point Michael said that that is a possibility too, if you refuse respectfully. Ofc it depends on your connections as well I'd guess
Good evening Mr Franzese (it's 9 pm in Poland). I want you to know that I practise my English listening to your stories. You speak so clearly that I can understand everything. Also, you are in the age of my father😊. The videos are so interesting that I could listen to them all the time. God bless you😊
Hey mike I just wanna say may god bless you and your family ❤️ I always look up to you as a father cause I never had one. You always succeed at putting a smile on me god bless
It took me a very long time in my life to learn the value of thinking things through before acting. There was a lot of pain to go with the lesson. Planning things, is a great problem solver. Great advice. God bless
He actually made a great tactics used in negotions that's also in the book never split the difference by Chris voss. Build a repor and forced empathy by reminding him that this what's fair. When someone is only thinking about themself it's smart to guide them towards understanding the other party's position. Love these videos they come with life lessons and great advice in busines!
So you're saying it was best to not be an overly *Bad* guy during this negotiation- that it was better to be a *Smooth Criminal* instead of a threatening one? All because you recognized the value of a long term partnership with MJ's team since you weren't going to *Stop Until You Got Enough* money from him and his record label? .... Okay, I'll show myself out the door now
Great story...👍. Back in 78 I was down and out and happen to run into Michael Jackson's family... Michael's Mom and Dad...I didn't have any place to stay ...I met one of the roadies and asked if I could help unload thier truck ...So I did and Joe Jackson heard my story and paid for my stay in the hotel for 2 weeks...After that my life turned around in a positive way...That's my Michael Jackson story 👍. I am happy to hear Sammy and you are ok now ...Thier comes a time to close the door to the past ..Other than good memories.... Everyone lives and thinks and acts differently...Sometimes are past can haunt us and we seem to be the person from the past...And that can cause alot of heartache...We all have had crap in the past...But leave that behind ..dig into the heart .. There's a side of all of us that we never knew existed... It's time to live ..love and appreciate were able to make it this far ...And just know we're all loved and appreciated by someone...And no doubt...God has our back and loves us all very much.... Merry Christmas 🌲🎄 and Happy New Year Mike and your family and friends online and in your life... Sammy...If you read this... Also Have a Merry Christmas 🌲⛄❄️ And a Happy New Year to your family and friends....God Bless 🙏
I love watching your videos, it is nice to hear real behind the scene about mafia life In your opinion which mafia group was always most powerful . I think it was handled pretty diplomatically rather than using threats
The Jackson Five Reunion Tour was the one time I saw the Jacksons. It was a cold, rainy night in Philly and I loved every second of it. We all did and I am not an "outdoorsy" type of girl, believe me! Outdoor Roughing it to me is a window unit air conditioner LOL. I love your videos, especially Armand Assante! And I could tell you some cool stories Philly, especially the 80's. I have some fascinating Abraham Lincoln things I've been meaning to run by you, although you probably know them already. Thank you for making Mondays fun. I can't work like I used to after a fractured neck, but my sense of humor is still intact. Love to you and your beautiful family!
Great video. Big lessons on negotiation and working deals with people. "You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar". Good stuff brother, thanks for sharing.
Michael, thank you for talking about this. When Sammy alluded to this I immediately thought it had something to do with Tommy Mottolla, the CEO of Sony Records who had mob connections... He was married to Mariah Carey and Mariah and a few other celebrities talked about how they were scared of Tommy for his supposed mob connections. I figured maybe he wanted Michael dead for obvious reasons as Michael at one point in time owned half of Sony. Also Michael's manager Frank Dileo who did a small cameo in Good Fellas stated in his book how he stopped a hit on Michael... But he never went to any detail. This has always puzzled me and made my mind come up with all these theories and etc. Frank Dileo also put Michael and Joe Pesci together and thats how Joe Pesci ended up being the bad guy criminal in Michael's movie "Moonwalker"... lol.. Anyway, I didn't know anything about this Norby Walters guy. I had been hearing bits and pieces about Michael and possible hit out on him during the mid 80s and it always fascinated me... So anyway, your story helped put the pieces together and it all adds up. Thanks for sharing this story. Super entertaining. If you have any more mob stories on other celebs in the music industry I would love to hear them!
After Norby Walters got Michael Francheze involved in the 1984 Victory tour. Michael Francheze made a comment there might not be a tour without Norby.............then.........Michael Jackson almost gets blown up in the famous Pepsi commercial.......Next you know Michael Francheze is using Michaels Victory tour to promote his movie Cry in the City in the USA newspaper prize give aways. ........Later the USA executives pulled the deal after a nightly tv documentary brought up Michael Francheze coneection to the mafia.....
Another great video Michael. If I’m not mistaken, I do believe Jacksons manager played Tuddy Vario in Goodfellas. Maybe your visit with him helped with his performance. Have a safe and Happy holiday!
Frank Dileo supposedly had mob ties from where he grew up. It was maybe Detroit. I remember hearing that somewhere a long time ago. I could be wrong though.
After Norby Walters got Michael Francheze involved in the 1984 Victory tour. Michael Francheze made a comment there might not be a tour without Norby.............then.........Michael Jackson almost gets blown up in the famous Pepsi commercial.......Next you know Michael Francheze is using Michaels Victory tour to promote his movie Cry in the City in the USA newspaper prize give aways. ........Later the USA executives pulled the deal after a nightly tv documentary brought up Michael Francheze coneection to the mafia.....
mike im sure you have heard this a lot but this is A+ content. a lot of times i have to spruce up the house or start working on something important and i just leave these vids of your stories on and i'm productive and laughing and learning quite a bit. you are a great storyteller and very inspirational and of course keep it up. cheers!
Michael I wonder if your viewers recognize Michael Jackson's manager Frank Dileo. He played Tuddy, big Paul's brother at the cab stand in the movie Goodfellas.
Does anyone think or happen to know if Hesh Rabkin from The Sopranos was based on Norby Walters? Seems like Hesh's character had a lot in common with the man himself. Anyway, great vid as always Mr. Franzese - you're an inspirational figure. I appreciate the values that you preach, particularly when it comes to steering young folks away from a life of crime. I went down that road a bit myself when I was a bit younger and definitely could've done with a positive influence to help steer me away from it. Great work!
Morris Levy was the main inspiration for that character. He would put his name on the records claiming to be co-writer. His estate gets money to this day from this scam.
You didn't want to scare MJ's reps in this meeting because "You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar". In other words, you were choosing to be a *smooth criminal* instead?
Saying threatened Micharl Jackson broke my heart instantly. Thankfully Sir your wittiness and wisdom bring justice and respect to the mafia world you were exposed to before. We know too not every Mafias are bad. And there is a saying "Safest is the nation where there are many mafias living in it" LOVE YOU Sir and Blessed Christmas to you and family 😊🙏❤🌹
Came across your videos and starting binging. There’s a house in Fontana, CA, not too far from where you’re located, that belonged to Al Capone. Growing up, it was a great conversation piece for those who didn’t know where the hell Fontana was lol. He purchased the home from Tony Camonte (Montana) back in the days. The house has a letter “C” on the chimney and was know to have tunnels that have since been cemented shut. Also, The Hells Angels originated in Fontana and used to visit the grand wizard of the kkk house as well. All this activity on the same block as the Al Capone house. imagine that!! Anyways, good to hear you made it through. I look forward to the great content you put out. Respect!
That wasn’t okay at all. Indirectly forcing people is straight up forcing people. Indirectly threatening people is straight up threatening people. Stop looking for excuses. You shouldn’t have done it. If Michael Jackson said no I don’t wanna do it, he didn’t want to do it. What’s so hard to understand? 🙄
Oooooooooh it’s Tuddy from Goodfellas! This was awesome. Really enjoyed the video and the unseen pics. Brings the whole episode together when Michael talks about what transpired in the Jackson camp. Thank you!
Ironically I just found that interview. Dude, I have watched it three times 🍿 🍿 🍿 I couldn't get enough of it!!! I love how you handle yourself even when you are lit. Mad respect. It's good to see people's feelings and emotions. So entertaining!!!
You are an inspiring man. I love listening to your stories and I'm very interested in the history of the Mafia. We never had the opportunity to reach out and communicate with key figures of the prime days of La Cosa Nostra. This is very cool!
@@StrawhatsFinest Honestly he probably did kill people, but dislikes answering that question. I can see him be kind of inspiring now, but with his whole life, no.
I love Mr Franzese’s posts, normally. They’re so instructive and wise. But, this is one I take exception to, I must state. I personally find Sammy Gravano to be a despicable character. But, Sammy got it spot-on, here. Dress it up any which way, it was a visit to to MJ to pose a threat. It doesn’t matter how ‘professional’ it was conveyed, ‘Norby or no Victory Tour’ was an ultimatum. All that bothers me is the lack of contrition shown. A Christian would have to acknowledge that Sammy was correct to call it a ‘shakedown’, the Christian would surely admit that Sammy wasn’t ‘out of (his) mind’ in this instance, and that it isn’t a business lesson for anyone. Rather, it is a salutary lesson on how to strike fear into someone through confrontation and smooth/passive aggression. That was no example of mediation, ‘Walters or the tour’s finito’ was a velvet-gloved ‘force of will’.
If a known murderer comes up to you and says “I want your car”. Maybe that’s not a threat but it’s definitely intimidation (Just to clarify, I am not saying Michael is a killer, this is an analogy)
Thing is, it's never been proven that he's a murderer, and until that's proven, he's innocent. Innocent until proven guilty, so that's innocent, not, oh he's not a convicted murderer but I think he's guilty. I could draw similarities with other modern day issues as well, such as equal rights for women, natives, african americans, you name it, you know as well as I do that it just doesnt work that way with those issues, so why with this? So, no offense, but the law either goes for all, or none, no cherry picking, you pick one and work with it, you can't have both, if everyone hated that so much we wouldn't have it, and until such a day comes (if it comes) we're expected to abide by it same as everyone else. Your ball.
A Colombo Family Capo in the 1980s comes in and asks for something in that way, only a fool wouldn't have regarded that as intimidation. Also, imo, though he has understandably been circumspect so as to avoid confessing to crimes, Michael has more or less admitted to having earned his bones, as the saying goes. He has said more than once he took an oath to obey any and all orders from above him... and would have and did obey all orders he was given. Now, that is deniable, but... come on now. That's a nod and a wink to the wise.
@@ToreDL87 The analogy is that he could. At the time, a mobster approached him, with the capacity for violence and the connections for violence, saying something was going to happen his way or not at all. How could a mobster make that happen besides violence or otherwise sabotaging your career?
Michael I love your content and get where you’re coming from almost every time. But here, I gotta step back. That’s a threat, especially if the guy knows who you are. If you don’t think it is, what would your response be if the man flat out said “that’s not going to happen”? Love that’s how you handled it and it’s an entertaining story, but in your case in THAT life, it’s a threat, no?
It becomes a threat when the promoter goes beyond the "what if" scenario. When Michael comes, it's not a threat, it's a warning. When he says "I don't think you hear me the first time" and his friends are gonna take a piece of the tour or there will be no tour, that's a threat. But he soften the blow offering friendship and favor in the future hence it's more of a proposition. But I agree with you, beyond that "what if" is the consequences the promoter try to avoid and that would be a threat
I knew it! MJ's manager was Frank DiLeo who also appeared in the "Goodfellas" film. If Michael approached him about the tour, he knew exactly what the risk was if he didn't go along.😄
Thanks for the great content again. The honey and vinegar saying was one of the first things my grandpa learned me. He was a business man too. Another nice saying (Christian inspired): When the crowd is waving palms and screaming the love you, there is always someone putting up a cross in his backyard to hang you on the next week. Maybe a suggestion to do a video on always keep your guard up and knowing when to get out or handle tough situations ….. But great content big up for the team! Happy holidays coming up. Greetings from Belgium!
I never get sick of hearing your stories brother!! That was funny about Marvin Gay!! 😂 😂 And I always enjoy hearing about how you handled yourself back then...you could have been a cold hearted thug with ice in his veins to get what you wanted, but you could tell that God was working on you even back then and that He had His hand on you, because it seems like most of the time you chose the higher road and didn't feel the need to swing your weight around, you just did it with respect and class, and honestly I think God honored that attribute and used it bring you out of that life and to Christ! God bless Michael!!
Thanks for the clarification Michael! It was definitely interesting when Sammy brought that up, so I was glad to see this video on my suggested page the next day!
I loved this spill like all of them Michael but I gotta tell you I had to LOL when you told on Marvin Gaye (who was a hero during the Vietnam War) and the story about the shoes! I just want to know when you's guys told him to take back the shoes did he actually do the "moon walk"... or what?
The way Sammy deliver the statement of threatening MJ is like Michael comes to MJ guns blazing. While the way Michael told the story is more believable and true. In the business, in my city, I also met some organization that want a piece of the action and normally that's how things are. We sit down, they told us their concern, we told them our position and eventually work something out. At the end of the day, everybody is making money.
Sammy is an angry man. From everything I've seen, he's been that way since he was a child. I actually feel sorry for him. It must be hell to live with that much anger and inner turmoil
No he's not. He's mixing it up with Mike to make for good content. If he sat there like a potted plant, it wouldn't be that interesting. He knows what he's doing.
If I'm not mistaken, Sammy is underboss before he's out. So a man in that position can never show weaknesses in both racketeering and gangster action. Maybe that's what imprinted in his life, his way of talking, his manner. Maybe he's not that angry, but that's just how he deliver things
Uhh so ya, that literally sounded like a shake down to me, the dude knows ahead of time "hey there's this mobster guy flying over here to see you about that concert thing" If i was him, I would be like wtf?! I don't wanna start any trouble with the mob, just do whatever he says I'm not trying to die for Michael Jackson. Meanwhile franzese is like, cool that was easy didn't have to rough him up or anything, ya no shit, duh genius, mister "everyone knew my last name " I don't like Sammy but he did kinda have a point.
@mcharleau holy shiiit! where have you been this entire time i've been firing back at michael lmao i've been alone this whole time like wth are these people fawning over this guy for, he literally is doing trumps exactly playbook, just announce your criminal behavior and everything should be ok. Not to mention i know mikes a republican which doesnt surprise me, im over here fighting the good fight against the GoP meanwhile i hear michael like "Poor Rittenhouse was a victim" im like get the f*ck outta here with right wing talking points, i know what you're doing, these evangelicals are like weak willed gullible people that hang on his word, i am not one of those people saying god bless you, i smell bs already. I did like mob stuff until the curtain was unvieled, no wonder they went down they think like conservatives lmfao oh man this people. Also sorry for the paragraph , i swear i did read your stuff tho, 100% agree.
My question is why would Sammy be upset? He claims Michael wasn’t a tough guy but when he actually acted like one and did a shake down on MJ, Sammy throws that in his face too like some sort of moral authority? I’ll bet if Sammy met the manager he would have left with some broken fingers at the very minimum.
@mcharleau lmao you're killing me dude, but i love ya already, i just scrolled through to see how much im about to read, ahahahahaaa you're cool as hell man, i like ya, welp i need another beer to sit down to read this, lmfao gimme a minute. finally another person cant even believe it.
@mcharleau ok i did it! i finally fking did it, i read it all lmao, and i 100% agree btw, i was making squinty eyes at michael for the longest time being like, this is kinda sus tbh, im not buying it. The whole nepotism thing im too familiar with, the whole my father this and that, its getting to me, i wont get into that with a certain orange moron i know of, im sure Sammy was really airing his grievances for real what their crew really thought, and im not a fan of him anyways. I liked hearing from him but I've been realizing, Michael likes talking in word salads, talking for 20 minutes and never answering a simple yes or no question that only a crooked politician does (for the love of god not all of them are crooked sure some bad apples all around, one guy broke into a DNC headquarters, one guy got a bj from an intern, and the last guy incited an insurrection and divided the country, which one sounds the most insane?) no wonder an exmobster loves the GoP reminds them of their old life, is what im saying. Sorry about seeming political but this sh*t matters when he peddles nonsense to his audience, and they're like hell yea! spreading further disinformation like what fox/OAN/Newsmax/Alex Jones types do, it offends me, f*ck those people. Its weird seeing Michael when he's not calm and collected in that one podcast with sammy, its like watching bob ross be a drill sergeant, when he's not able to guide the narrative in his favor. You're good with the lengthy response lol now i know how one of my friends feel when i do the same sh*t lmao
@mcharleau oh ya i forgot to touch on the whole not being able to walk around comfortably. i typed a whole other thing mentioning that but accidently clicked somewhere and the bell notification bar on pc goes away where i was typing and i was like, f*ck, i have to remember what i typed. I never thought of that! Even tho i put michael on blast, i still care about the guy, I have worried for his safety with him being so candid just mentioning everyone he knew. I can only imagine how pissed people that still live that life are if they're even around, im like dude stop mentioning sammy, the guys gunna go ape sh*t again and one day try to put moves on you thinking he's still in the old life, please stop. these people obviously dont want to be mentioned. Im over here worrying for the guy, like a father figure thats not sure what a twitter is, and doesnt see the problem with what he's doing.
Well..... You threatened his Manager in a way, just not the way most people conjure up in their mind's when they hear that kind of thing. It's a smart approach. When you go into a negotiation of ANY kind, be the opposite of what people might THINK and you'll 9.9 times out of 10 get what you want AND they'll not only get what they want, they'll look forward to working with you again.
@@zonketjipura7274 After Norby Walters got Michael Francheze involved in the 1984 Victory tour. Michael Francheze made a comment there might not be a tour without Norby.............then.........Michael Jackson almost gets blown up in the famous Pepsi commercial.......Next you know Michael Francheze is using Michaels Victory tour to promote his movie Cry in the City in the USA newspaper prize give aways. ........Later the USA executives pulled the deal after a nightly tv documentary brought up Michael Francheze coneection to the mafia.....
