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@househistorian
@househistorian 9 месяцев назад
Mithraism has its roots in ancient Persia, not the Mediterranean basin.
@torceridaho
@torceridaho Год назад
Constantine aligned Christianity of the 4th century, which had already and continued to root itself into a Greek philosophical school, with the notion of empire and administration. Not sure if this shift was necessarily inevitable. Christianity certainly lost its sense of history as defined by the prophets of Israel. The power of the empire and Platonic and Aristotelian thought created a unique social institution within and part of the power of the Empire.
@joeychicago6322
@joeychicago6322 4 месяца назад
Those care old tests ment who agent a part of the new church of Jesus by his blood sacrifice for all of our hope. Their have been new saints who actually bled for the Catholic faith and holy mother church. Have u not read up on the t first thousand yrs of the church? How r we even having this conversation? Please pray on this and for Israel and Rome, the to top targets of satan...
@Duxofficium
@Duxofficium Год назад
Lads, Maxentius built the arch and Constantine just added to it.
@MondoProducer
@MondoProducer 11 месяцев назад
Pagan is most likely from the word Pakan (Persian) the cleansed ones which later became redefined as vilified to serve a purpose. Contantine's heart never changed but his mind knew what moves to make. The Nordics probably have similar belief toward their gods and so the Galics.
@joeychicago6322
@joeychicago6322 4 месяца назад
Probably? U must b careful on words especially dealing with holy history. No Constantine like his mother threw the wars fought for Christianity and the Holy lands and so on the the truth. The fruits r abundant can't yet u speak in maybes? Pray for insight my friend!
@boz9153
@boz9153 11 месяцев назад
Ultimately, Constantine was a shrewd politician. He aligned himself with the cult of Sol Invictus (or Apollo) because it was a generic enough form of worship in the classical world to form a basis for a single homogenous religion across the empire. The documentary is right to show that his objective was to create a state religion venerating the Roman emperor and using symbols from Christianity, Mithraism and paganism to do so.
@joeychicago6322
@joeychicago6322 4 месяца назад
No proof of that historically. Do not b fooled my friend by smeer videos like this who do not actually show proof but only hear say ! Please pray on this truth and pray for Rome and Isreal, the two main targets of satan!!
@travellerstoryteller
@travellerstoryteller 11 месяцев назад
He was baptised just before is death, but some years before, in 325, he promoted and presided among the bishop of Cordoba, the Nicean Council, where they fought doctrines that were not friendly to them, calling them heresy
@TheApostelicPrincess
@TheApostelicPrincess 9 месяцев назад
He got baptised by Arian Bishop, which was condemned in Council of Nicaea
@-kepha8828
@-kepha8828 3 месяца назад
There is no recording anywhere during his time claiming he was baptized. The Catholic church invented this long after his death.
@evanhadkins5532
@evanhadkins5532 Год назад
This is a theological question too. About commitment to Christ, which is not the same as a social institution called (more or less accurately) Christianity. The Christian scriptures validate incarnation and show the first generation's battle with following Christ in their context. Put another way 'pagan' and 'Christian' can be difficult to sort out. It seems likely that both Jesus and also Paul and the other writers regarded themselves as faithful Jews.
@tgbluewolf
@tgbluewolf 11 месяцев назад
Where do Christian scriptures validate incarnation??
@evanhadkins5532
@evanhadkins5532 11 месяцев назад
@@tgbluewolf Jn.1:1ff and many other places.
@ilmarmeldre2568
@ilmarmeldre2568 Месяц назад
⁠@@tgbluewolfread The New Testament and church fathers before 325 AD talking about Jesus as God and Almighty and Lord and Saviour and Creator of all things and before all things and sustainer of all things, Word of God, who was God. Alfa and Omega… the very Glory of God… everywhere in the Scripture actually even in the book of Daniel the Son of Man is on the throne… Jews knew what Jesus was referring to, so Pharisees wanted to stone him that “He a man made himself a God!”
@TheApostelicPrincess
@TheApostelicPrincess 9 месяцев назад
Armenia, Georgia and Ethiopia was Christian before the establishment of the Roman Catholic Church Also, Constantine's way of professing religion would be closer to Trump, Biden or Putin than even the last Christian rulers of 20th century
@AMX86
@AMX86 Год назад
Christianity, especially Catholicism is built upon the old Roman bureaucracy
@johnclonch738
@johnclonch738 3 месяца назад
We call it Constantinian Christianity identified by those celebrating Christmas and Easter, others are calling it Mystery Babylon, and what's really funny is those practicing true Christianity are called cults by them 😂 .
@mutsuzawa
@mutsuzawa 3 месяца назад
Great leaps to connect Christianity to Mithraism.
@bartgrossman9361
@bartgrossman9361 11 месяцев назад
Those marks on the stones could be anything. If a building was marked with a cross I think they would do a better job of it than a scratch that is barely visible?
@MondoProducer
@MondoProducer Год назад
Wikipedia: Mithra (Avestan: 𐬨𐬌𐬚𐬭𐬀 Miθra, Old Persian: 𐎷𐎰𐎼 Miça), commonly known as Mehr or Mithras among Romans,[1] is an ancient Iranian deity of covenants, light, oath, justice, the sun,[2] contracts, and friendship.[3]
@j.adickey2002
@j.adickey2002 9 месяцев назад
the MEHR of the empire of Cyrus the Great has to have changed greatly in order to be the MITHRAS that some of Aurelian's troops worshipped.
@MondoProducer
@MondoProducer 9 месяцев назад
@@j.adickey2002 Intriguing! How so and why?
@j.adickey2002
@j.adickey2002 9 месяцев назад
@@MondoProducer ---- There is a shrine to Mithras at one of the outposts along Hadrian's Wall in the U.K ..... Julius Caesar admired Alexander the Great however he was HIGH JOVE. Cyrus the Great is also known for being tolerant of many religions but had his mystical insights. I think MITHRAS is a composite morph God bearing an overlap set with Apollo.... however MEHR might be an entity that is closer to the mysticism of the historic courts of the Persian Empire. JOVE is and isn't ZEUS or the planet Jupiter but each name might indicate a metaphysical manifestation of the godhead demi-urge. Constantine i believe was Greek on his mother's side, and his father was the son of Claudius II ...as a young man, he tried to be as christian as his mother Helena but he was exposed to HIGH JOVE.... the traditions passed down from Rome's power elite circa the time of Caesar Augustus. His "Christian" rebirth when he became an Imperator in full was deliberate.
@j.adickey2002
@j.adickey2002 9 месяцев назад
Correct me if i am wrong.... there are four bronze horses in Venice. Constantine's arch had a bronze chariot and 4 horses on it, and a man holding the reins. Nero's old palace had been torn down by Vespasian. There was also a statue to Apollo, who the Greeks would see as being akin to Alexander the Great. Constantine semi-looted panels for his arch. DUDE had an EGO. Put it together.... half Christian, half Roman.... troops from the Rhine area, Neo-Platonism. A captive time in Diocletian's palace so his father does not go into open rebellion, and a possibility of being somebody important eventually. GOOGLE Zenobia. GOOGLE Palmyra. GOOGLE Aurelian. Like CYRUS THE GREAT.... the intent of the EDICT of MILAN was toleration...
@j.adickey2002
@j.adickey2002 9 месяцев назад
If you see Apollo above the charioteer on Constantine's arch when down the road a ways, but as you get closer to where Nero's house/palace had been.... the "dude" holding the reins of the SUN CHARIOT rises above....Apollo. THINK like a Neo-Platonist. THINK of the poor city of PALMYRA. Zenobia said her ancestor was Cleopatra and she was of the bloodline of the royal House of Old Persia. Whether we speak of Zoroaster or the other faiths in that empire, Diocletian did have war stories.... and yes, Augustus Caesar was not 10 feet tall but his statues often were, if placed on Rome's roads. Perspective. Constantine was aware of HIGH JOVE.... Augustus the Imperator was Rome's Pontifex Maximus. www.britannica.com/biography/Zenobia After Palmyra falls, she is in chains... taken to Rome, and marries Diocletian. One of the stories. www.britannica.com/biography/Longinus-Greek-literary-critic This guy was one of Zenobia's courtiers... he took a rhetoric essay circa the time of Augustus Caesar, an imperial essay, and reworked it. He was beheaded after the revolt in the East fails.
@austinmiller1427
@austinmiller1427 5 месяцев назад
This is such an amazing documentary.
@stephaniebourke1634
@stephaniebourke1634 10 месяцев назад
He’s so funny. Builds a statue, regardless who the statue is of he sticks his own face on it 😂 Takes over and makes a new town, names it after himself 😂😂
@AdrianoMushi12
@AdrianoMushi12 Год назад
I'm a Christian
@havefunbesafe
@havefunbesafe Год назад
Constantine Romanized Christianity.
@KatyYoder-cq1kc
@KatyYoder-cq1kc 5 месяцев назад
This is correct.
@josephpiskac2781
@josephpiskac2781 Год назад
Very interesting and certainly what Constantine did worked for him.
@boilingwateronthestove
@boilingwateronthestove 7 месяцев назад
American made documentaries always have to be so over the top dramatic with the editing. It's a good documentary, but the dramatic editing as if the world is about to fall makes it almost unbearable to watch.
@ilmarmeldre2568
@ilmarmeldre2568 Месяц назад
It actually makes sense for us Christians 😅. Just read Paul in Acts 17 talking to Athenians on Mars Hill. Christianity didn’t eradicate all the names for God like Zeus and all those, rather they showed that Almighty is to be YHWH the Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit. But it brought clearer picture who is this Most High God and what He did in Christ. If Christians would eradicate all completely of pagan mythology, legends and stuff, then it would miss the cultural language to communicate the Gospel to those pagan nations. So it makes sense, whatever Constantine did and whatever his ambitions were, there were a lot of churches by now, a lot of Roman soldiers, who were Christians, at least few christian countries and quite a good amount of church fathers that claimed Jesus is God and defended this idea long long long before 325 and they used New Testament as their source. So it’s funny to me 😂how secular people always make notions about blending with paganism. Of course even Christians would use some art and cultural stuff that was before coming of Christ, because God created art, even if pagans used it. And of course some people still could have secret pagan cults and of course churches would be built on the place of where idols and other gods were worshiped before, because that’s how you change it and sanctify it. Nothing surprising for us Christians and even that communion was adapted by Mithra cult members… were they saw the parallel. The big difference still that Jesus is God became flesh and He rescued people with His own shedding of blood, not some other bulls and goats… He became an offering to reconcile us all, no pagan god did that and won’t find the Incarnation and full Gospel story in any pagan legend about other gods. And about the birth of Jesus, most Christians who really investigate and research the subject know that Jesus wasn’t born on December 25th, but it was one of the possible calculations and miscalculations of some of the church fathers. However the church remained power and right and ability to choose any date. 😅Early Christians celebrated only death and resurrection of Jesus. Wrong date… but hey, all the days belong to God and for His glory and we don’t give Satan or pagan gods any date… we use it as we want as long as we know Whom we are worshipping and what we are worshipping. In fact in communion we celebrate every time Jesus’s birth, incarnation, death and resurrection. But we keep the dates for main folk to follow and just for the official stuff. But was Constantine really Christian or no that’s really interesting and what was his own motives… that’s also interesting.
@lisbewernick5113
@lisbewernick5113 Год назад
Interesting to see the actual monuments and hear about the connections. But the setup and sound effects, pretending this is news is rather exhausting.
@tavuzzipust7887
@tavuzzipust7887 Год назад
Jacobovici makes stuff up as he goes along.
@skepticscircle1497
@skepticscircle1497 11 месяцев назад
Tell that to Dr’s Richard Carrier, Robert Price, David Fitzgerald. Christianity in general…MYTH. oh, and Jews for Judaism too. You’d be surprised at what they think.
@bill9989
@bill9989 11 месяцев назад
He's a fraud.
@charissecoal
@charissecoal 11 месяцев назад
The filmmakers seem hell bent on casting doubt on Jesus Christ and Christianity 😂 😂😂 they have been called out by their own experts that commentary and findings were chopped and screwed to fit a narrative that’s totally false and misleading. Bible Expedition channel
@tessag.1079
@tessag.1079 11 месяцев назад
That is this guy's purpose. I have watched his other stuff. Very AntiChrist.
@scartenaflor8342
@scartenaflor8342 10 месяцев назад
I absolutely agree with you. Wat a twist to sound clever.
@Ubique2927
@Ubique2927 Год назад
These two just make stuff up or the views.
@josiahbradley1638
@josiahbradley1638 Год назад
What exactly did they make up?
@aijingsukdiamai87
@aijingsukdiamai87 10 месяцев назад
In 321 he abolish Sabbath and introduced Sunday, in 325 he abolished Passover. Jesus kept the Sabbath and the Passover.
@ilmarmeldre2568
@ilmarmeldre2568 Месяц назад
Yes, because Jesus was an orthodox jew and He had to. However Jesus fulfilled the law. Long before Constantine we have Sunday, because Jesus raised on the third day… which is Sunday morning according to our calendar. Now Jesus became as Sabbath rest and Passover Lamb, the atonement for our sins and He brought us back to rest in God, because we couldn’t clean ourselves up, we couldn’t fight fallen sinful state and the devil and the fear of death. And we couldn’t fulfil the law to get the blessings of the law, to get to Heaven or get righteous by our deeds, well Jesus did it everything for us and that’s the Good news. Jews celebrate Exodus, but majority denied Jesus as Messiah, this is why early church fathers and leaders decided to celebrate on different dates, because we celebrate Jesus, our exodus out of sin and death land, not the exodus of Jews from Egyptian slavery. Sabbath was given as a shadow for the things to come. Now we can rest in Him. All days are holy if they are dedicated to God. God gave law in pictures and shadows before the real substance and reality would be revealed in Christ. Now we can rest on His finished work on the cross. God’s rest is perfect rest and it’s not just one day out of the week. We celebrate rather God than one day that He gave to people of Israel as a shadow or symbol to the things to come. Now substance is here. That’s why we celebrate Jesus as our Pesach, Passover Lamb and Passover Bread and His Resurrection and rest in Him, and not the way Jews or Muslims celebrate their dates, since they don’t believe and they rely on themselves to be their own messiahs, while the all prophecies about Jesus that were long ago came through, especially Isiah 53 and Psalm 22. Long before Jesus died on the cross and rose back to life.
@aijingsukdiamai87
@aijingsukdiamai87 Месяц назад
@@ilmarmeldre2568 did you know Jesus resurrection have nothing to do with Sunday worship? Because sunday was introduced by Constantine in 321 AD but the Apostles, the church still keep sabbath even after Jesus ascended to heaven and Jesus resurrect on the Feast of First fruits. So Jesus is the first fruits of those who are fallen asleep ( 1 Corinthians 15:20) Jesus celebrate the Passover ( not sacrament) before he died ( Matthew 26:17-19, 26-28, Luke 22:7-9, 19-20) He even said that He desired to celebrate the Passover ( not sacrament) with his disciples before he suffer ( Luke 22:15) In the old testament God instructed Moses and the Isrealites to celebrate the Passover ( Exodus 12:1-14) He also establish the Passover as the Feast to be celebrate on the 14th day of the first month at twilight ( Leviticus 23: 4-5) that's why Jesus celebrate the Passover at twilight ( Matthew 26:20) The 15th day of the first month is the feast of Unleavened bread ( Leviticus 23:6) Jesus was captured at midnight after the Passover feast , crucified and died on this day the 15th of the first month which is the feast of Unleavened bread The first day of the week ( sunday) after the Feast of Unleavened bread is the feast of First fruits (Leviticus 23:10-11) Jesus rose from the death on the first day of the week ( Sunday) the day of First Fruits ( Mark 16:9) To make you understand this Lord's festivals it falls like this 14th day of the first month is the Passover, 15th day is the feast of Unleavened bread, the First sunday ( not second sunday)after these feasts is the feast of First fruits. If the 14th day falls on Monday tha Passover will celebrate on Monday, then the Unleavened bread on Tuesday the 15th day then comes the sabbath day ( saturday) and then comes the first day of the week ( sunday) which is the feast of First fruits. The next sunday there will be no more feast of first fruits. But on the year of Jesus crucifixion Passover the 14th day falls on Thursday where he celebrate with his disciples, Unleavened bread the 15th day falls on Friday or the preparation day of the sabbath day where he was crucified, died and buried in the evening ( Mark 16:42-47) then comes the sabbath day and after the sabbath day comes the first day of the week where he rose from the dead early morning ( Mark 16:9) which falls as the Feast of First fruits according to the appointed feasts calender
@aijingsukdiamai87
@aijingsukdiamai87 Месяц назад
@@ilmarmeldre2568 the Passover Lamb that was sacrifice during the Passover feast in the old testament is the male lamb which is the shadow of Jesus who is the reality. That's why Jesus is known as the Passover Lamb (1Corinthians 5:7). So Jesus resurrection have nothing to do with the abolishment of the Sabbath and have no connection with Easter Sunday the day many Christians celebrate as Jesus resurrection day. Easter comes from the idol goddess of sex and fertility name Ishtar. So Jesus resurrection have no connection with Ishtar, bunnies or eggs the way Christians celebrate on Easter Sunday as Jesus resurrection. Apostle Paul said Follow my examples as I follow the example of Christ ( 1 Corinthians 11:1) Jesus set the example by keeping the sabbath ( Luke 4:16) so does Apostle Paul ( Acts 17:2) even after Jesus ascended to heaven. Both Jesus and Paul keep the Sabbath as their customs. When you do it regularly without fail it becomes a custom.
@kjjohnson24
@kjjohnson24 Год назад
Was it christianity that became more pagan? Or was it paganism that became christianity? Either way, there are definitely enough similarities to support the pagan continuity hypothesis.
@JordanWallace-nb4id
@JordanWallace-nb4id 11 месяцев назад
The Catholic church is not Christianity
@aijingsukdiamai87
@aijingsukdiamai87 10 месяцев назад
By introducing Sunday and abolished Sabbath is is more pagan, by introducing Christmas, Good Friday, Easter Sunday and abolished Passover it is more pagan
@JordanWallace-nb4id
@JordanWallace-nb4id 10 месяцев назад
@@aijingsukdiamai87 that's no true Christianity though, you've been bamboozled
@ilmarmeldre2568
@ilmarmeldre2568 Месяц назад
@@aijingsukdiamai87in which way is it pagan if the prophets and the law have been fulfilled in it and all prophecies about the Messiah came through?
@aijingsukdiamai87
@aijingsukdiamai87 Месяц назад
@@JordanWallace-nb4id there's nowhere in the bible about Christmas 25th December as Jesus birthday or Easter Sunday or Sunday worship. It was all adopted from paganism
@joebarlow6676
@joebarlow6676 11 месяцев назад
So what was Christianity because the paganism came in?
@Salacious-Crumb
@Salacious-Crumb 11 месяцев назад
Basically what Jehovahs witnesses believe
@debaprasad9379
@debaprasad9379 11 месяцев назад
A normal cult fighting against local superstitions . Not a religion for sure 🤔
@Salacious-Crumb
@Salacious-Crumb 11 месяцев назад
@@debaprasad9379 you talking about jahs witnesses because they are an official religion ... 8 million members worldwide and no suicide pacts or anything like that ... don't take my word for it do the research yourself .. I'm not a witness myself I havnt the ability to live up to that beautiful lifestyle...but I won't slag them either
@leoncook7527
@leoncook7527 Год назад
Regensburg lecture.
@jonidjoharijonidjohari5385
@jonidjoharijonidjohari5385 11 месяцев назад
Kristian is a pagen religious
@TofiqHidayatBurungLiar
@TofiqHidayatBurungLiar 10 месяцев назад
In the future,Jesus will turndown to the earth and brake the cross!and get christian to true monoteism
@FionaMacdonald-p9p
@FionaMacdonald-p9p Год назад
Can`t wait for the episode that covers Christianity`s destruction of the classical world.
@InhabitantOfOddworld
@InhabitantOfOddworld 11 месяцев назад
They'll never cover that, it would wake up the goyim
@scarling9367
@scarling9367 11 месяцев назад
👍
@JordanWallace-nb4id
@JordanWallace-nb4id 11 месяцев назад
You mean Catholicism
@travellerstoryteller
@travellerstoryteller 11 месяцев назад
It didn't destroyed totally, cause christianity is still a pagan roman religion with several gods, they are called nowadays as saints...
@InhabitantOfOddworld
@InhabitantOfOddworld 11 месяцев назад
@@travellerstoryteller It was destroyed, read The Darkening Age by Catherine Nixey
@Johannes_Brahms65
@Johannes_Brahms65 11 месяцев назад
I get Constipation in my brains!
@charlesxix
@charlesxix Год назад
Change or take that bloody hat off.
@pauloboyle477
@pauloboyle477 Год назад
An entire religion based off a painting make 1300 years after the people lived hahaha. People are such suckers. Y’all wanna lend me a few dollars. I swear I’ll pay ya back
@Cup0Coffee
@Cup0Coffee 11 месяцев назад
Short answer, No.
@jonidjoharijonidjohari5385
@jonidjoharijonidjohari5385 11 месяцев назад
Rom+pagen=keristian
@InhabitantOfOddworld
@InhabitantOfOddworld Год назад
Pagan good Christianity bad
@JordanWallace-nb4id
@JordanWallace-nb4id 11 месяцев назад
That's why hell exists for people like you.
@JordanWallace-nb4id
@JordanWallace-nb4id 11 месяцев назад
That's why hell exists for people like you.
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