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Exactly. But the show doesn't give you the chance to sympathise with Lamar and Walker that's why a lot in the comments is trying to justify why Walker killing a terrorist is "bad" while the show straight up starts with Falcon killing Terrorists. It's dumb. Walker was only a bad pick for Cap because the US gave him the title without preparing him to the consequences aka like enlisting for the military.

No he wouldn’t have lmao. If this was the case, he would’ve been the first to kill Thanos yet he held off

​@@thefxplays7450he held off to kill Thanos??? Did you really just said that?? The only people who comes close to killing him are Wanda, Thor and Nebula. The scene where they held Thanks doesn't even count because Thor was the only one trying to kill him.

you john walker apologists are complete clowns Karli is one who killed lemar and john killed a person who didn't do anything with lemar's death Steve didn't do like that when Bucky died in captain america 1 and he didn't do like that to Thanos in beginning of endgame for killing sam and Bucky

​@@thefxplays7450 Dude, come on. He held back on thanos? Really?

Exactly, Necessary force the exact scene this was taken from where Steve could have easily ended Tony to protect Bucky but he just struck him in the arc reactor once (weakening him), just dropped the shield (out of respect for Tony’s Father) and walked away whereas John was pushed to extreme when his partner died and took it out on an injured surrendering villain

I would disagree. I agree he would be selective to eliminate but with the power he has at that time. He'd just be another bully that he despised. Steve hated bullies. So i think he never killed anyone in cold blood. War is often a mass of kiliing in cold blood. If he did killed someone it would be by accodent or coincidence like that Hydra spy scene after he got his powers.

He won't go out of the way to kill someone whose death has no or negative consequences.

He didn't cruel

​@@therealajzainiit's war tho, is there really a bully when killing to defend one's country?

Ultron's oil too? 🤣🤣

@@Vlchhuanga.x He’s what! 📸

@shoyetaigen So Gamora, Yondu, All of Thor's family /people who have died are nothing to them???

@shoyetaigen Wait no he’s got a point 🤔

Chitauri are part of a hive mind so I don't think they can die unless you kill ALL of them. same for ultron technically also

Yes, but there is a bit of a difference. Steve kills people in war mostly on battlefields or during secret operations. Usually those guys aren’t surrendering or anything. John killed this guy in public on the street with tons of civilians around and no other threats around. At the point that he put his foot on the guys chest the fight was over and the guy wasn’t resisting or trying to fight back anymore. I’m not saying the terrorist was a good guy or that he didn’t deserve to die, he definitely got what was coming to him. I think Steve probably would have been able to realise that killing the dude in public in such a brutal way while he was basically not resisting in anyway would at best be a really bad look and at worst be a war crime

Soldier Boy makes Walker look like a saint

If someone killed Bucky in front of Steve, he would have gone into full beserker mode.

​@Justin Harvey someone DID "kill" Bucky in front of Steve. Amazingly, Steve resisted the urge to bludgeon an unrelated person to death while he desperately tried to surrender.

@@Lurmmings True

@@Lurmmings But I was thinking more of what if someone shot him point blank in the head. Still, the serum enhanced the goodness in Steve, so I guess he really wouldn't do that.

@@Lurmmingswhat show did you watch? The flag smasher didn’t once try to surrender

People react differently to someone dying

Wait are you saying Falcon who runs around with Dual automatic pistols never hit anyone with them?

@@jamesfolkerts8169 lmao you got a point.

The problem was the one he killed was clearly trying to surrender. The real kicker is he wasn't even the one who killed his friend

@@_bored2death *Bucky "died* Steve literally announces: "I'm not gonna stop until everyone from Hydra is either *DEAD* or captured." Notice how dead was not only an option, but his first choice.

Well dude meant human blood as opposed to rh chitauri blood

@@nishanthsuresh4166 in their universe there should be no difference between human life and alien.

@@wesleybrown9018 yeah true but the chitauri were mindless killing aliens

@@nishanthsuresh4166 in Infinity War Nebula uses one's curiosity to lure it near enough to kill. In Avengers when Hulk takes down the first leviathan the invaders show anger. Cap knocks a grenade out of one's hand and there is clear signs of fear. They aren't mindless animals.

Just mjolnier A weapon that can destroy mountains with one blow

He didn't mean figuratively. We've never actually seen blood on the shield, even when he fought iron man we still never saw the blood

Facts

No, he took revenge for his friend.

So you’re telling me you wouldn’t want to kill the person who killed your best friend?

Bruh you think cap didint kill someone He killed tons of people in ww2 He don't have a no kill rule Disney has😅

@@thunderthanosgaming816 cap did kill but he killed clean with gud reasons, it's part of his job as a soldier but he did not killed with rage. John Walker wanted to be like him but he never did. The shield got stained of blood because of his anger, Rogers surely never did, only scratches from other powerful weapons. That's what makes them different.

Whos your new cap then?

​@@wo1verine1ogan Not falcon

@@joscar062 agreed, been so long i dont remember what i said that for😂

This was before the what if series so it would s correct

While true, the iconography is to show Steve has stayed morally patriotic whereas John has stained the image

Tony had his heart surgically repaired in IM3. By the time of the fight, it was just the power source for his armor.

Like that guy on the boat that Steve paralysed then knocked into the water? He was fighting back right?

@@Shrimp_Frying_Rice Are you talking about the ship fight at the beginning of Winter Soldier? None of his takedowns from then fit your description.

@@MereImitation Then you should watch again, i know exactly which guy he means. Second Guy on the ship he takes out.

@@CedricBassman Yeah I just rewatched and there’s nothing there. “paralyzed then knocked into the water”. That was the description. Cap knocked exactly 2 guys into the water during that scene and both were accomplished with a single hit each. Cap never paralyzed someone and then threw their limp body overboard.

@@MereImitation You need to refresh on basic anatomy then.

I'm just glad the actor did a great job with the role yeah he's not captain American but he's the perfect U.S agent which is the actual jon walker character

That's war like bruh, What type of soldier doesn't kill in war, Everyone there dies obviously In John Walker's Scenario he killed a guy, on the ground and begging for his life, There's other options

@@kimbaldun 1. People acting like Steve never killed so had to say that. 2. Not a dude. Terrorist who was related to the death of his friend 3. The guy has mental issues. You have to agree to that. That plus he has no TRUE friends to counsel him like how Peggy Carter was to Steve when he was starting out. And with all your baggage you have to act like a symbol of hope and the stress that comes with that is even more crazy especially when literally everyone mocks you, belittles you or compares you to Steve instead of lifting you up to what where Steve's ideals. And on top of that your friend dies. I'm not saying he was right but you have to agree that compared to all the BS in the story that guy is literally the MOST normal guy there. He's basically how you and me would've reacted when thrust with that kind of responsibility

@@kimbaldun Also I just had to say this Capt America was never self-made. Steve had the groundwork in him sure but he also had amazing people in his life who helped him mentally and emotionally. Peggy Carter, Bucky, his whole platoon of weirdos 😀 They helped him become the man and later the hero he became.