DID YOU KNOW THIS ABOUT ROGUE FROM X-MEN '97?  

so, all the haters and "inclusive advocates" are insulting one of the most iconic females in media?

So you're telling me that Rogue is modeled after a black woman and yet Rogue has no @$$ now.

@@lonew2657i mean blame that on disney plus ,in the og cartoon she did lol

I grew up watching Grace Jones...she was before her time. Tall, stunning and unapologetically avant-garde. She used to date Dolph Lundgren and they looked beautiful together, even giving him his big break in HER vehicle, A View To A Kill. Edit: Without her, we may never have had our live action He-Man😂

​@lonew2657 you do realize everything isn't about sexualizing a character, right? Lol, what's wrong with a character just being likable and written well? If you're looking for eye-candy, Google is a free service.

It's funny how that kept happening 😅

Well the civil rights movement inspired the whole thing🤷‍♀️

You can’t make this up lol

We’re always inspiring, but never thriving.

​@@trealsteve My guy they're turning almost every original white character black now tf u mean

I didn't know that about Dazzler! Another short idea. Thanks!

Where are you getting this SJW garbage from?

@@biguy617 You need help.

​@@biguy617You're an odd individual mate

@@biguy617maybe the creators saying this??

Agreed, she was!

She still is. She just an old badass now.

Honey, Grace Jones is STILL a badass!

No she wasnt

I always think of her scene in Boomerang at the restaurant when her name is mentioned.😂

I can see that! Storm's punk look is my favorite. I actually did a short on that a week ago.

Beat me to it...

Her sorceress look is way better IMO

I always hated the punk look. The classic made her look feminine.

​@@utteero The punk look is as classic as what you call classic, and she's a super hero, she should look badass, not cater to your medieval beauty standards.

She did as well.

@Ironmaninfinite I said 80s and 90s Storm not 70s.

And for the that was the only character that reminded me of Grace Jones.

Iman looks more like Storm.

Thank you! It makes a nice loop at the end. Need to find more butts for my shorts 😅

@@chrisjhermanbutts and shorts are always a winning combination 😅

I came to the comments for this comment

Lol

I completely missed the visual reference for that line, until reading this. 🤦🏿

Yeah! That why both can be blackwoman in movies for me.

Dazzler was probably based on Olivia Newton John or one of the female singers from ABBA in my opinion!

@@BigDapPacinoshe was also based off of grace too but her official appearance look probably was based off of them

The character ' Huntara" from the original/ authentic/ real , She-Ra princess of Power syndicate was also based on Grace Jones

​@@PaladinodoCerradooficial Congratulations on an incredibly stupid comment/sentiment.

I hope they make her like this when she makes her debut in the MCU

@@chrisjherman i wonder when this day will come!!!

I mean I wouldn't call that outdated look and funny hair "stong" and "badass." She looks way better now

I know right

@@detectivebrown6211sorry but no. Animated rouge is peak rouge. We got enough female heroes with movie rouge mannerisms.

😂

It’s such an odd dynamic!!! Like the creators said she was the inspiration, the comics gradually made the characters look less like their original designs, and then the fans took it further by making them look even less like the original designs but then get mad at black cosplayers for actually looking like Grace Jones…

@@B_addie I think that is just people being rude to black people for any reason they can think of.

@@B_addiedid Stan lee or jack Kirby say that? Because I’m pretty sure they never did and this is all shit that other people are saying that they said.

@@The_Bigotusername feels… oddly appropriate here, I just can’t pin down why

Wow! Thanks for the information on Bishop. I never knew that. That would be great for a future short!

Just because his great grandfather is aboriginal doesn't mean he can't be African American lol

​@@ElektrikkissI personally headcanon Bishop as being both African and Aboriginal descent and that Shard, his sister, is blond because some Aboriginal people have blond hair.

I actually meet Whilce Portacio as a teen and he never mentioned that Bishop was supposed to be as he is a Filipino American. However he did mention that Bishop was his favorite character that he ever created. He also explained that he thought about Gateway being his family to help explain the time travel but he ultimately said Bishop was supposed to be Onslaught as at the time he was the newest Xman his power allowed him to absorb energy and the energy signature that took out Jean grey in the message was Bishops energy signature.. However same as Cable Bishop just became a popular character so they kept him a good guy.

​@@genevieve7676 he's basically First Nation Aboriginal

Absolutely! 😆

She was my teenage heart throb

Hey! Dont speak for me!😂 Storm was my main (shyt, still is!)....Rogue was my side

She had the curves. Her belt hung off of her. She had a sexy raspy voice, and she was horny AF flirting with even bad guys. Made my tummy feel funny when I was littlee

Storm for me!

Rom issue 32. That was a very freaky story.

Rom was the best toy inspired comic book. Would love a movie about the space knight

I thought that was ms. marvel's influence on her.

They failed to mention that Rogue's flight and super strength come form the fact that Rogue absorbed Captain Marvel's powers and put her in a coma. Now Captain Marvel's consciousness is in Rogues mind while Captain Marvel is in the hospital in a coma.

I dint remember Rouge being honorable.

That's right! So glad they included it in the series

Its a Rider Kick from Kamen Rider series.

Her air-roll kick is included in both the original animated series and this iteration, too.

Wh​at show @@chrisjherman

That was such an awesome moment. I had to include it in the short 😃

@@chrisjherman Definitely man!!! That’s was some good stuff.

DYNAMIC.. ENTRY-YYYYYYYYY!

Capcom was responsible. Their Marvel fighting games in the '90s were legendary.

@@coolraul07 I’m so upset I didn’t think about that lol 😂

I gotta do a short just on comic book butts 😅

@@chrisjherman I'd watch it. #gotdatwagon

In her very first appearance in Avengers Annual 10, she looked like an emaciated 50 year old woman, she got some major improvements through the years.

I should have included that in the short. Thanks for letting me know!

"Too" No. The actors style was used as a reference. Not the actor herself. The hair and manish look was THE inspiration taken

@@detectivebrown6211they had the same haircut hence she had her haircut. When someone says you have your mothers eyes, they usually don’t mean you physically wrenched them from her body.

In 1977 Jones secured her first record deal resulting in a string of dance-club hits including "I Need A Man"

10 years after creation... This is just glazing to try and get more watchers

Timed to perfection whilst showing that Iconic bubble bu** 👏🏾👏🏾😂

😎

🍑 She is a Southern peach after all 😉👍

ROGUE !!!!!!

🖐🏾😂I peeped that!

@@The_Notorious_N.O.E., southern ain’t got shit to do w it. White woman can have a nice, fat ass but, it’s NO THING compared to that of a Black woman.

Absolutely! A young Grace Jones would have been the perfect storm, pun intended.

That would have been cool!

Kiki palmer will rectify this

​@@nullvoid8941Actually, last year, people were coming for KeKe on social media cuz she put up pictures of her face over Rogue's body saying she'd love to play her & people *AHEM --- WHITE PEOPLE * accused her of trying to "woke" Rogue up. If they could only see this. I'm sure all you'd hear is 🦗🦗🦗🦗

Eh, Angela Bassett would have been peak casting.

Thank you! I need to find more X-Men butts for these endings 😆

It's a great show! Check out X-Men 97 when you have the time

Gosh the Xmen 92 cartoon on fox kids i was 10 in 92. The Phoenix Saga was my favorite storyline. I cant watch it nowhere unless i get the Disney plus app.

I'm not a big Keke Palmer fan, but I'm curious who they'll cast for the MCU X-Men

@chrisjherman Yeah. I'm not a fan either, but it just tickled me how many "people" of a certain demographic got mad at her even expressing interest in the role as a black woman, not knowing the intended history of the character's creation.

​@@chrisjherman I don't doubt for one second that Keke could bring Rogue's signature sass to life and she looked great in the photoshopped pics as Rogue.

Just because her design in concept was inspired by a black woman. Doesn't mean the character should be played by a black woman. Rogue is a white woman, changing her race is racist and woke. Or are you saying any Black Fairy character is not allowed to exist?

​@phonicrose8395 Unless along with being played by a black character they also make the focus about black issues, thete is no "woke" really involved. Please learn how to have more nuanced ways of seeing things. Also, to this day I hate how "woke" was hijacked a few years ago. Woke didn't mean being super liberal, feminist, LGBT, or race focused. It really meant people who could see the bigger picture about the world around us or the info most of the masses readily accept. It meant they questioned things, used critical thinking, read between the lines, etc... It had absolutely nothing to do with liberals vs conservatives. In fact, most who would've been considered "woke" in the original context would be those who understand the 2-party system in itself has been detrimental to the public and made the political process much easier to manipulate. And the fact that BOTH parties will protect the wealthy over the 98% when it comes down to it, one party is just more upfront about it.

Thank Wokeness and Sweetbaby for that.

Thank you so much! She has a pretty rich history

I love her design too!

Would you have loved her if it was a Grace jones design 🤔... people pick and choose what they want to hate.

Yes

Just because Grace inspired her design. Doesn't mean Rouge is a Black character. She was made white. Which makes it woke to change her to be black. Thats like saying a Black person can't be into Fairycore. Smh

@@phonicrose8395that last sentence makes no sense with the rest of your comment but i digress, white people have more than 80% of characters in media, they can spare a few iterations to be people of color

EXACTLY SAME

storm though. ororo monroe best girl.

One of my favorites too!

Thank you!

Yup!

No.

​@@chrisjherman uhh, no. That's not even what you said in the video. Elements of Rogue were inspired from several sources, this actress/model being one.

​@@OpinionParade Uhhh, yesss? One of the designers just didn't know who Grace Jones was, so she ended up white. Stop being such a crybaby, you still have your white Rogue

When captain marvel was still a guy?

Oh, her 90s animated adaptation is great!

She really stood out because of her features

@@chrisjherman they really took their time with her.

@@rigolettohooper7319 Cakes do take time in the oven...

Not shade at all! Just thicc cheeks 😂

Think or Know?

@@jasonbaker2198 I Think but I'm pretty Sure.

A man of mid, I see.

@@ligeiasiren4290 I think we're all burned out from everything being about either Wolverine or Jeanus Christ.

I think people are mistaking having the spotlight for being centered around.

You're a very angry person, aren't you?

@@chrisjherman not really. Im just saying.

Jim Lee didn't create the character though. He just created her most popular look back in the nineties. Rogue had other designs back in the eighties before Lee.

@@genevieve7676 i mentioned the design

@@romy_edits I think her Outback era look is actually sexier than the Jim Lee look (which looks like a corn husk to me) and I love her Age of Apocalypse hairstyle. One of the things that the nineties cartoon did right was make her jacket green instead of fugly poop brown.

She's one of my favorites as well!

@chrisjherman I should have said. She still my favorite today no matter what.

Gotta have a thicc butt for the ending 😆

Back then, it wasn't easy to just look it up. Internet wasn't around. And Jones is a model and actress.

@@charminglady2011 yes you are correct the phony express that delivered the information and picture of her from the person who sent it to him, but it took too long for him to send a reply back to him right because there was nobody else he could’ve asked out who she was back then the wire tapping was just not fast enough either

You're correct!

Or he just wanted to really use Grace Jones as a template for a character

Get over yourself it's been confirmed

To be fair, early Rogue in the 80s dressed and styled herself closer to Jones than she did in the 90s.

​@@Elektrikkiss"get over yourself" Wtf? Do you have worms in your brain or something?

He was a big fan of her and looked at her as a source of inspiration.

Rogue's a great character

@@chrisjherman absolutely 💯🤝

What short did you watch?

@@chrisjherman I say that because humans raised him.

​@@biguy617okay big guy, have a nice day ❤

@@Mr._Anonymous342 It is Big Guy. I did a misspell when typing the name

Not sure why this is here but Nah... Superman is an alien that is an alien. That's part of the reason I've never liked his butt. He's an alien that has never known human challenges and frailties but has the nerve to try and judge humans on how they should be better humans. Miss me with that.

WAAAAAAITTTTTTTTT

Actually it was because she was meant to be middle-aged. Then in other comics that went into her backstory as a child, it showed that she was just inexplicably born with it.

@@romy_edits which finally became canon recently, right? I'm embarrassingly behind in X-Men comics

@@romy_edits Comic books lol

I don't think anyone got the joke, lol.

I'm very curious who they'll inevitably cast

Right!? X-men in itself is inclusive enough, there's no need to raceswap any character. Maybe Hank McCoy cuz he's blue anyway😂

Nobody's saying Rogue's race should be changed. It is what it is now & I love her as she is. The POINT IS the fact so many wyte people get their panties in a bunch when a fictional wyte character is made non-white, when most REAL LIFE HISTORICAL FIGURES that were black were white-washed. So it's a case of, why is it fine for you & not for us. There are MORE than enough wyte characters to represent white culture, but when we get 1 extra, some wyte people have hissy fits, AS IF it's going to take away from their representation. And any1 who denies that fact is just being intellectually dishonest cuz they don't want things any other way than what jibes with THEIR worldview

⁠@@dominiquedevereux7205said all of this for no one to care. The race of characters should stay as is on every side. okaying it for y’all to race swipe and not okaying it for white people to race swap is just as ignorant as them doing it, period.

@@chrisjherman unsure! Pulling for Elizabeth Gillis or Alexandra Daddario

No

Yes yes and yes

​@lorenzoreynolds2512 why no explain

@@zeken0 because rogue is white southerner not black no hate 4 Keke but get her to play a black character don't blackwash rogue that would be retared there's a lot of white actors out there that look like n sounds like rogue n I'm a black man saying this

Gross. No. Rogue isn't black and was never intended to be black. You seem to have misunderstood what you saw in the video.

Gotta end with a big butt! 🤣

Gotta end the video with a big butt 😂

Yup, I did indeed! She made such an impact on the Batman mythos.

Oh, she's a great chracter!

Yo me too😂😂 rogue and gambit were everything to me ❤

Thank you!

Gotta end with a big butt 😂

@@chrisjherman yes

Agreed! Thanks for watching too

You're not wrong!

The backside is back! 🤣

The same for a lot of people too, I think!

What did they change for the 90s show?

When she first appeared in the comics she debuted as a villain. She looked very different from how she looked when they had her join the team. Read the comics!