I own a 1993 2.8 Diesel 4Runner (Original, not converted) which was my dad's before me, and everyone keeps telling me to sell it and get a "decent" car. But I just love it, and after being more than 20 years with us, I feel like it was part of the family. haha
I know your feel bro. I own a 2000 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 turbo diesel (with a manual gearbox), which was my dad's one... I'm really into that suv, and it's my first vehicle, it might not me that fast, but it wont leave me in the middle of the nowhere, and i know i can do everywhere in it...
Excellent work Shane. I stopped by your place once about LC 80 parts But missed you. I'm a LC guy but love 4 runners too. I might be interested in this route one day. Keep up the good work re powering these great trucks. I saw your taco in orangeville one day. Crazy haha
Recently on a longish trip I did 708 KLM on 56 litres of petrol. I make that around 34 to 35 mpg from Six cylinder Ford Falcon in Australia. Fuel injection.. cruise control.. just let the 4.0 litre dohc engine do it's thing up to 110 KLM on freeway sections. Bugger buying a diesel for it just yet. It's a low is 2004 model. Well serviced with a hyclone intake manifold device. No moving parts. Is said to swirl and mix fuel better
Add water methanol injection kit 64cc nozzle tune to suit. Bmn engine code. Last and best of the PPD direct injection diesels. Alh engine code best for performance parts availability and upgrades. VW tdi are engineered to last and perform
Great work! I'm in Toronto and have been thinking of getting a 4runner/Tacoma to do a diesel conversion but I noticed that you're from Ontario and have a post 1988 2nd gen 4runner with a diesel swap. How were you able to not worry about emission tests and MTO pulling you over? I know 1988 is the cutoff where emission laws don't apply, but I love the 90s 4runner/Tacoma platform. Are you in Northern Ontario where they're not so stringent? Thanks again!
Hello, and thank you for the reply. We are located just north of Brampton, in Orangeville. Doing a diesel conversion is completely allowed as long as you go through the simple paperwork with the DriveClean emissions people. If you would like to give us a call, 519-938-9844. We would be happy to answer all of your questions. Thank you again S.C.Lawrence
Hello Rootin' Tootin' Putin For the most part, passing omissions in Ontario is fairly simple. If you start with a vehicle 1996 or older, you simply apply for a fuel type change with the Drive clean Ontario corporation. You will need to send them pictures from four corners of your truck, a close-up of the serial number behind the windshield on your truck, and a picture of the engine bay with the diesel motor now installed as well as four or five small questions they will ask on their form. It usually takes them 2 to 4 weeks to get back to you with authorization. Whatever authorized it they will give you a two-year exemption from emissions testing. After that, you only have to pass the diesel omissions standards for vehicles up to 1996 which is just a visual inspection to check for smoke. On 1997 and newer vehicles you have to pass the 0BD II test, which simply checks to make sure all of the sensors are properly functioning. They will tell you that a diesel conversion is not possible because with an OBD II test it would typically pull the serial number/make and model of the vehicle out of the computer therefore it would think it was a Volkswagen Jetta or Golf, and yet you are actually driving a Toyota truck. Now if you are using the AHU engine, it's computer does not have the serial number or vehicle information and coded into it. So they will strictly go by the information on the door as to vehicle and model, but as long as there are no engine codes if you will pass and they will not even know it is now a diesel. If using an ALH motor, you get an experienced programmer to change the vehicle code in the computer to match that of your existing Toyota. Once again as long as you have no engine codes you'll pass and they will not even know it is a diesel.
Hello mta798 I'm sure by many standards that the 3l is a good engine, but it's 2 1/2 times the weight of the VW, doesn't have the fuel efficiency of the VW, can't match the power of the VW, about the same reliability, and the 3l was never sold in North America. A motor is just a power supply. With proper installation, you could say "any motor is made for any vehicle". The VW engine fits in the Toyota engine bay with lots of room to spare making it far easier to work on, should the need arise, than the 3l, and since we keep everything other than the engine (alt, p/s pump, a/c compressor, rad, starter, transmission, rubber mounts) original Toyota. It's easy to get parts. So it's a better engine for some of us. Either way, we all enjoy our Toyota trucks. Cheers S.C.Lawrence
Are you still doing conversions? My partner is thinking about converting her 98 4Runner to diesel and we're trying to figure out what a reasonable price is. Also what a reasonable time frame is. One site said $35,000 and at that point you could just buy a new truck.
Hey again Tim This one we kept all of the electronics from the VW Jetta and installed them into the Toyota. We then had Malone Tuning send us new chip with stage 3 and egr deleted and installed them in the VW ECU. After that we installed a set of injectors from Performance Diesel Injection (Giles Gallie), and this is how she runs. S.C.Lawrence M.P.G. Conversions thetoydoc@hotmail.com 519-938-9844
Hello abpsd73 Yes we sell adapter plates, flywheels, complete kits, engines, etc. We have just finished designing a new adapter plate for use with the ALH engines which solves the clearance issue between the starter and turbocharger. The best way to reach us is by phone at 519-938-9844 Or e-mail at thetoydoc@hotmail.com We will be shut down from until November 26/17, but I have forwarded the phones to my cellular and will answer when signal is available. Thank you for the inquiry
Can you point me in the direction of website or whatever where I can find all the information needed for researching this kind of swap. Like what year motor I'm looking for adapter plates and everything else that's necessary. Thank you
Hello airdreams1 Unfortunately, the powers that be have not granted us anything more than dial-up Internet in this area, so as of yet we do not have a website. For now, the best way to get in touch with us is by telephone at 519-938-9844, or by email at thetoydoc@hotmail.com. Seeing as we are only able to get dial-up Internet connection, we prefer the telephone as even responding to emails takes forever in this area. If you wish you could email us your telephone number and a time and date at which it is best to reach you and we will call you. Basically, there are four different Volkswagen 1.9 L turbo diesel engines, each of them has their own strengths and weaknesses and it depends upon your location and what you wish to achieve with your vehicle as to which would be the best for you. We are still working on some new kits to allow different engine/truck combinations, so even if we don't have anything right now for your vehicle, we should have something within the next year. Thank you very much for your inquiry, and we hope to speak with you in the future. S.C.Lawrence MPG Conversions
Nearly $5,000 in annual savings on fuel if my math is correct Probably pays for itself within 4 years even if you go with something a little crazier that requires a transmission swap as well
I'm seeing that based on your gauge cluster it's an automatic so you've been able to configure this engine with auto or have you swapped it for a manual transmission?
Hello. Unfortunately we haven't had a chance to figure out the ECU inputs for the automatic transmission yet. This one was converted to a 5 spd. manual. With luck we should have time to work on the automatic set up this year. Thank you for tuning in.
Hello Brett While we tend to think of engines as front wheel drive or rear wheel drive, they are not. The vehicle they are installed in is fwd or rwd. Engines just spin clockwise or counter clockwise. Most spin clockwise when viewed from the front. So as long as it spins the correct way for the application, it works. Thank you for your inquiry. S.C.Lawrence M.P.G. Conversions. 519-938-9844 thetoydoc@hotmail.com
Curious what you think of the v6 3.0 tdi? I havent been able to find a single forum or other page of information on this engine swapped into one of these trucks. Might be kinda overkill for this truck, but it seems to be about the same size as the original v6 3vze and of course power and torque are way higher, which I would think might mean better mpgs and overall better performance.
Hello macnutpro13 We have been asked about using this motor, but I think this motor would be very problematic. To begin with, because of the vehicle it came in, and the fact that we need all of the fuel injection, The cost of acquiring one would likely be very prohibitive for most people. Secondly, the complexity of the fuel injection, seeing as it is tied in with multiple sensors throughout the entire vehicle, it would be extremely involved to try and sort out and install into a Toyota or other vehicle. After the 1.9 L, we would be next looking into the 2 L engines. The ones that have become infamous for their emissions falsification. We have been told that these are also very complex in terms of fuel injection, but they would be easier to attain them the 3 litre.
yea, I've heard the electronics are a nightmare to deal with, especially with everything being tied together the way it is. Then again, somebody who knows the ins and outs of these ecus might be able to make it work. Don't know anybody yet, but I'll keep looking!
How much did this conversion cost you in total? I get 14mpg on a good day in my 99 4Runner and spend about $600/mo with gas being around $5.40/gal here. Curious to see how long it would take to pay for itself.
@@fabriciooliveira3720 there is a guy that has a channel about TDIs and he put one in a Silverado 1500. He tows a trailer with another truck on top of it, and his total weight is like 7,000+lbs.
@@fabriciooliveira3720 do you own a house or do you live in an apartment complex? If you have the space, buy a $200 harbor freight engine hoist and do it yourself. After you complete your first engine swap, you will feel like the strongest human in the universe. I highly recommend DIY. There are plenty of videos teaching it. If you hire someone, they will charge you $5,000 and they’ll still fuc# it up and at the end you still have to fix it.
Hello Michael We now have 4 different plates for installing VW diesels into the various Toyota trucks and 4Runners. We also have partial and complete kits to simplify the conversion
Hello Mike S We are currently in the design stages for a kit to drop the AL H engine into the Toyota trucks. Once we finish the kit, then it should not be any harder to use an ALH than an AHU/1Z or AAZ. By the looks of it so far however, it will end up being more expensive! First of all with an ALH you will typically need to have the immobilizer removed from the computer. This cannot be done in programming, it must be physically dealt with on the circuitboard. Secondly, due to clearance issues in the Toyota engine bay the Oil pan needs modifying. The ALH uses an aluminum oil pan which is much more difficult to modify, so we have now started importing some steel oil pans that we will be modifying, but of course this adds to the cost of the kit. Thirdly, so far the way we are working on this new design we will also have to supply a new front crank pulley. It looks like we are going to need the crank pulley's from the earlier engines so that we can properly connect up our alternator/power steering/air-conditioning compressors from the Toyota, depending on the year truck. Until the end of November 2017, we are out of the shop dealing with something else that has come up. When we get back to work we should hopefully have a kit for the ALH finished by January. At that point we will know what the cost is projected to be.
Hello Oliver, and thank you very much for the reply. Depending upon what year Toyota truck you start with, will dictate how you go about taking care of the omissions problem in Ontario. Anything before 1998 they still test at the tailpipe. For these vehicles it's a simple matter of paperwork with the Drive Clean organization, and then you test as you would an older diesel car. Strictly A visual test where they look for smoke at start up and under acceleration with no load. For the 1998 and newer Toyotas, they will test all of the sensors, to make sure all sensors are working. For this, we just make sure that all of the Volkswagens computer and sensors are in and functioning so that when they plug into the 0BDII Port, it shows that everything is working and they will give you your sticker. So, for 1998 and newer Toyotas you must use a full electronically controlled TDi engine.
If you can figure out a circuit that you can keep a steady speed and R.P.M. on, you should be able to see what the difference in fuel efficiency can be between two vehicles or engines. Just replicate the conditions with each vehicle.
Hello again *Mason X* We are 1Hr north of Buffalo New York in Canada. We have a drop off lot in Niagara Falls New York (Military Towing) for our U.S. Customers. We also put together complete kits and ship them into the U.S. to customers and shops. Thanks again S.C.Lawrence 519-938-9844 thetoydoc@hotmail.com
+TOY Works Autocrafters wow! yall are a long ways, I'm from NC but I will keep you in mind! I don't have the money to be putting a engine right now...I wish I could, but thank you anyway.
Hello PGURUSC. Yes we sell kits to install VW 1.9 diesels into the Toyota trucks. Please feel free to call us at 519-938-9844 or contact Shane at thetoydoc@hotmail.com phone typically works better as we are in a valley and internet reception is very poor. Thank you
Carlan Aronson Hello Carlan, and thank you for the response. Yes we are still making the VW diesel conversion kits and the 519-938-9844 phone number is still the best way to get in touch with us. We look forward to speaking with you.
Hello Stoney We build these adapters, flywheel's, etc. here in house. Please feel free to give us a call at 519-938-9844 for information and availability.
Hello Ashwin In our opinion, the VW 1.9 Diesel is the best choice for these trucks as it has the same RPM band as the original Toyota gas engines it replaces, it's very light weight, it's extremely compact, very easy to acquire, renowned for it's longevity, capable of incredible power output, and gets phenomenal fuel economy. It's also used in nearly every country in the world. And while we have been a huge fan and supporter of Toyota and their vehicles, We have been less than impressed with most of their diesel offerings over the past 30 years, especially in the North American market. Where as VW diesels are nearly flawless, with the exception of the emissions scandal of the 2.0l TDi's of late.
If in your country there's no VW TDI (India?), you can use 2KDFTV toyota innova (crysta) engine. But you'll need to install another transmission afaik. here in Indonesia, there's no VW TDI motor, so we used 1kdftv hilux motor or 2kdftv innova motor
Hello BikerTrashWolf Unfortunately the little diesels power does not compare to that of the 3.4. The 3.4 is like an anemic vegan up against Duane "The Rock" Johnson. Johnson being the 1.9 diesel. While the peek output of each engine shows the 3.4 to be superior, when you look at a graph the 1.9 provides 90% of its power from 1900 rpm through to 4300 rpm. Yes, these diesels rev to 5000 rpm! With very minor upgrades these engines are reliably capable of over 185 hp. and 275 lb. ft. of torque. With a little more work you'll easily get over 250 hp and 360 lb.ft. All kicking in at 2000 rpm. Thank you for the inquiry. S.C.Lawrence M.P.G. Conversions thetoydoc@hotmail.com 519-938-9844
chad burgess Hello Chad and thank you for the inquiry. So far, with the exception of the 4Runner in this video, all of the other vehicles were not originally equipped with cruise control. This forerunner originally was a automatic transmission. With all of the conversions done to it (automatic to standard, gas to diesel) it would have been extremely complex to set up the cruise control. I would expect it would be easier to hook up an aftermarket cruise control then to of tried to retain the original one from Toyota, so the customer decided cruise control was not something he would require. Keeping the original Toyota cruise control would likely be more costly than it would be worth. Although, when we figure out how to keep the automatic transmissions, then the cruise control should also be simple.
jimbote1968 Hello Jim, how are things out Ottawa way? We've been using the stock transmissions, be a V-6 or four-cylinder I now have adapter plates and flywheels to accommodate both transmissions. For a 31 inch tire we personally have found that a 4.30:1 seems to be our best all around ratio. If we're using the truck more for towing, then we like to go to a 4.56:1 gear ratio. Subsequently, when running 33 inch tall tires, for all around use we have been happiest with a 4.56:1 gear ratio. I guess in reality, running the VW 1.9 diesel, mirrors the original Toyota engines when it comes to gear ratios. even as we have started to move up in our power output with the Volkswagen engines, the gear ratios we have stated still seem to be working best for us.
Hello Ryan. While the engine, with som upgrades, would have to power to move the 100 series Land Cruiser quite well, it would not achieve the same fuel economy due to the Cruiser being less aerodynamic and heavier. The other problem becomes fitting the engine to the Cruiser’s transmission. There maybe interference problems with things like starter and oil filtration components. Lastly, getting the Cruiser’s electronic transmission to work with the inputs from the VW diesel would be an issue. We are working on an 80 series conversion, but are using a transmission from a 60 series which has no electronics and will allow 2wd ability.
@@toyworksautocrafters3072 thanks for getting back to me. I kinda knew about the tranny issues but the others I wasnt, so thanks for educating me. As you can imagine my fuel economy is awful (15mpg average). Runs good and all for having 260k miles on it but would love the potential of getting even around 25mpg with a diesel. If you guys ever get it figured out I would love to do it. Thanks!
Toyota's automatic transmissions in their 4wds are computer controlled. Without the sensors from the original engine telling it what's happening, it won't shift. So at the time this was our best option. We're now in touch with a company whom are very confident that they have a controller that will work with the VW engine so that we can run the automatic transmissions.
There is guy who actually has a 4x4 converted tacoma, he didn't use the 4wd ecu but has a j-shifter. He said the 4x4 ecu isn't really needed as long as you have the j-shifter. I guess it also depends on whether the T4R/tacoma has manual locking hubs too.
We have a neighbour with a 1.9 TDi in a 97 TJ, he too only gets around 32 mpg. on his 33's. We believe the main difference is the aerodynamic difference between the two vehicles. While the 4Runner is not a fantastically aerodynamic, it's still far more aerodynamic than a Jeep. 32 mpg from a Jeep on 33's I would consider very good. We've also found that the stage 3 with the right injectors seems to be the most fuel efficient way to go, and fun to drive. Cheers Shane
+TOY Works Autocrafters true, not to mention I have a 2006 PD which isn't that great especially when compared to the 98 TDI motors which I believe we're the best when it came to durability and simplicity and power, my last 98 I sold still running great with 335,000 miles on it
+Eighty cc Yes, I'm also under the belief that the PD motor's aren't quite as fuel efficient. I'm told though, that once the cam and lifter problems are addressed, it's the strongest of the 1.9's. We're working on one right now, if all goes well we are hoping for a reliable 385lb.ft. of torque and 285ish hp. It's going in our long distance tow rig. Still aiming for 40 mpg on hi way when NOT towing. Would love to see 28 mpg when towing. Not sure if that's overly optimistic. Pleasure chatting with you. Cheers S.C.Lawrence
+Eighty cc Yes, I'm also under the belief that the PD motor's aren't quite as fuel efficient. I'm told though, that once the cam and lifter problems are addressed, it's the strongest of the 1.9's. We're working on one right now, if all goes well we are hoping for a reliable 385lb.ft. of torque and 285ish hp. It's going in our long distance tow rig. Still aiming for 40 mpg on hi way when NOT towing. Would love to see 28 mpg when towing. Not sure if that's overly optimistic. Pleasure chatting with you. Cheers S.C.Lawrence
+Eighty cc Yes, I'm also under the belief that the PD motor's aren't quite as fuel efficient. I'm told though, that once the cam and lifter problems are addressed, it's the strongest of the 1.9's. We're working on one right now, if all goes well we are hoping for a reliable 385lb.ft. of torque and 285ish hp. It's going in our long distance tow rig. Still aiming for 40 mpg on hi way when NOT towing. Would love to see 28 mpg when towing. Not sure if that's overly optimistic. Pleasure chatting with you. Cheers S.C.Lawrence
Hello Carlos. We used a 5spd transmission and transfer case from a 1999 3.4 litre V6 Toyota 4Runner. Had this truck started as a standard instead of automatic, it would have been the original transmission and transfer case.
Hello Julio C. While this truck happened to be lifted, the tires were the original stock size (31 X 10.5). When tires are larger than original, it has the opposite effect of what you suggest. Each revolution will cover more distance, and since the odometer counts revolutions, you go farther than the odometer reads and physically move fast than the speedometer shows. Thank you for watching S.C.Lawrence M.P.G. Conversions 519-938-9844
That ant 40 mpg man! It's more like 32mpg. I can get that with a gas kia sorento, actually 38 mpg with 3 passengers if I work at it and that's an average over 200 kilometers not 7 lol.
That's the great thing about the internet, even people whom don't pay attention, or don't understand a subject ( in this case power output ) can eloquently state their opinion. In this case, the torque of the tiny "f*#king" diesel is even at peek, greater than either the 22RE or the 5VZ (3.4L V6). Even in cases where the diesel has less peek torque, it often has greater overall torque due to it's comparatively broad/flat power curve. This 1.9L diesel puts out 250lb.ft. of torque at its peek, and 90% of that power is there from 1700rpm - 4800rpm ( yes, these little "f*#king" diesels can rev ). While even the 3.4L only produces 228lb.ft. of torque at peek, and that's at 3700rpm. Down at 1700rpm it produces 55% of that power and doesn't reach 200lb.ft. until in the 3000 rpm range. With a diesel, when the peek torque is lower that that of a gasoline engine, very often the usable range of the torque is still greater. Horsepower can be different, ( in reality HP is a mathematical derivative of torque based on acceleration at a set load ), Honda Civics can have great HP. but can't tow heavy loads! Crappie torque! The Toyota 3.4 and maybe a well modified 22RE will have better acceleration through 1st, and 2nd gear when powering an empty truck, but when the wind resistance increases by 3rd, 4th, and 5th gear, or more load is added to the truck, it's torque that does the work. And in this case, women are right, size doesn't matter! 22R's and 3.4L 5VZ's are great engines, and don't forget the 2.7L 3RZ's, but they're never going to achieve 40mpg in a Toyota truck, with the ability to move 8000+ lbs. GVWR.
Hello GR24rules. Now what do you think of the Ford F150 (full size p/u) using a 2.7L engine? Or Dodge's eco-diesel 3.0L 1500 series truck? We're talking 0.8L and 1.1L difference in displacement, and VW has been producing diesel's longer and in greater quantity than Ford, Dodge, and Chev. combined. There IS a replacement for displacement, it's technology! VW's diesels are renowned for 500,000+ miles of service and have been used in 1ton vehicles for over 20years. We're not re-inventing the wheel, just wrapping different rubber around it. Power is power, size doesn't matter (ask a woman). Efficiency is the key! Live well, and keep your questions coming. It takes an open mind and the exchange of ideas to forge the future. Thank you S.C.Lawrence TOY Works/Autocrafters MPG Conversions 519-938-9844 thetoydoc@hotmail.com
If you think it's too small of an engine, it just means you're uneducated about its potential. The older 4runners (85-89) with the four cylinder had MAX 114hp, 148 lb-ft (the highest achieving non-turbo 22R motor from factory). Most of the 22R motors made 94-108 HP, 138 lb ft of torque for the same 3500-3700 lb SUV. Mean while the TDI in stock form (1999-2005) made the same 90-100 HP, but a slightly greater 150 lb-ft despite its smaller displacement (1.9 vs 2.4). If the TDI is such a small engine for the application then why was the 22R one of Toyota's most bomb-proof, reliable motors? Displacement is NOT always key to power. Just look at the rotary RX7s; they were beating most factory V8s of the era despite only being 1.1-1.3L in displacement. SMH. This TDI will be less taxed out since it makes power at lower RPM and holds it rather than overrevving and dumping. And it's lighter too, so you're actually cutting weight WHILE increasing power! (22R weighing about 340 pounds, TDI being about 250 lbs). And it's diesel so gobs better fuel economy. But the greatest part is the TDI can be more reliably, cheaply, and easily built up for more power than the 22R. About $1400 in parts (assuming you didn't get a model of engine with a factory 11mm IP, if you did then about $900-1000) will get you about 150-180hp plug-n-play, about 220-250 with a tune, and obviously bounds more torque and still dead reliable and same mpg as long as you keep your foot out of it. If you build up the bottom end, all you effectively need to do at this point for more power is increase boost. To get 200HP from a 22R would require almost $1000 in cylinder head work alone: porting, over size valves, MONSTER sized cam; on top of that: bore 0.040 over, respring the distributor, headers, 10:1 compression (for an n/a build, less if turbo), probably had to molest the bottom end, etc. All this for an engine that'll make 180-200 HP at like 8,000RPM! And would absolutely destroy the famed 22R reliability. So is the 1.9 really THAT bad of a motor for the application? Answer, no. In fact, I'd argue it's a better motor for the application.
Keep watching Charlie P. In "Part 2" we get her up to 100 mph. We've had a go faster, but we were running out of road. All of you naysayers are worried about the size of the engine. Power is power. It doesn't matter the size. it's all about the output.
