I ride western and have always called it “Walk”, “Trot”, “Canter” and “Gallop” although Gallop is not often used. Didn’t know I was using English terminology.
@@rustinstardust2094 no, learn whichever you want. Both are great and have benefits, just make sure you choose an instructor that won't have you hurt the horse. That is a very important part
KMichelle Argus Your comment is completely inaccurate. Pleasure horses are trained to be extremely comfortable and easy to sit. (Hence the name PLEASURE horse).
owen outhwaite yeah, for western it’s walk jog lope gallop, english is walk trot canter gallop. Idk if this is true but idk if the terminology is different simply BC they are different disciplines, but to me a western “lope” is more extended, relaxed, and slowed, rather than a collected shorter English canter, and a jog is more slower than maybe and English trot. Not sure
Hello I am a western rider and I have a problem. I love my barn so much but I want to do English, I want to switch barns but like I said I love my barn to much
ive never seen anybody ride western that way my whole life this is completely wrong in my eyes whenever we trot or cantor we don't just sit in the saddle we do 2 point and we move with the horses body movement idk where you got this from
I know this is three years later, but if you're still making videos I would love to hear about the differences in riding cues for English vs Western. By the way, your horses are beautiful. 💖
Hm, I think everyone is taught a little differently because I learned western and nearly all the horses have a throat latch and usually our reins are connected. Also what was the “jog”? I learned trot and it’s the same thing as the English trot soo ..?
We also have a throat latch on some of the bridles but it differs. If you are a western starter, the reins can be attached but usually they aren't. The jog is a very slow trot as the lope is also a very slow canter. These are mostly used in the discipline western pleasure. They are just more comfortable to sit. But we in my stable also say and do trot as horses have to be specially trained and/or bred to perform jog and lope ^^
It's pretty rare that your reins are connected in Western. We usually show in Split reins (what she's using), or Rommel reins. Rommel reins are what we use on a bridle horse. Splits are for cow work and are crossed over the horse with tails on each side. 😂 YOU NEVER show Western Pleasure holding the reins the way she said, you hold you splits crossed in the left hand, your other hand hanging loose at your side. 😂 I
Our reins were tied together in a knot and left long in Western. The horses each wore whatever style bridal they responded best to. And we were taught walk, trot, canter. We were definitely not showing, though.
Jog????? It's still a trot in western! And that horse was NOT doing a good trot or lope. It should've been going faster. Edit 9 months later: I now know that jog is the correct term for showing in Western pleasure, so don't hate on me 😂
A nice video. My father had a devout hatred of an English saddle. I was taught to thread the reins between the fingers of the right hand. Left between the index and middle fingers, with the right rein between the ring finger, and the little finger, with the remaining length trailing out the “bottom” of the hand/fist.
Thank you so much for this video! I can tell you worked hard and I learned ALOT. My niece is 6 and just joined 4H to show and I wanted to be more educated. Thank you! ❤️
these haters have never ridden proper pleasure. i’m laughing at these comments, she did a lot of right things, but no one is perfect. i have no idea what discipline these people are riding 🤣🤣
I AGREE!!! Everyone is being so rude to her she did 3\4 of the things right people WHY YOU GOTTA BE SOOO RUDE EVERYONE [accept the ones who said nice things]!!!
I mean I see where you're coming from but there's also many different classes in each discipline so they could be referring to a specific class. Like even I saw a few problem with her Western Pleasure. And I've been riding for most of my life and competed in English and western events. Overall though she put in a great effort with what tack she had and I can applaud her greatly for that
is it just me or is your horse way behind the vertical? And the differences between western and English is not so much the tack your ride in as the style of which you ride. I ride western and I use snaffle bits and connected reins. And actually there are very few western riders I know that don't have a throat latch on their bridles. And I have never heard a western rider call a trot a "jog"
Ahh, no. Western bridles have throat latches, the reins can be connected, and the "jog" is a trot, and it goes faster. The "lope" is a canter. If you're going to talk about Western style, get it right. I understand things might be different for other people, and she has the little details right, but the pacing is all wrong.
Gamer Southern99 Western bridles *can* have throat latches, the reins *can* be connected. It is a matter of different style. For what I do, connected reins aren’t allowed. As far as the gates go, it is proper terminology associated with the discipline.
Gamer Southern99 I agree. You also post trot in western if you don’t want to sit trot. Also the way she was holding the reins in western wasn’t really that accurate. I hold the reins with both hands not just one.
I use a roping saddle from when I won an event in my area, spilt reins (separate) and all the basics. All this about the western side is all off. Plus why is the horses head running so low? And most western bridles do have the neck strap. Mainly because when we’re out in the field messing with each other is usually by pulling off the thing altogether. Walk, fast walk, slow trot. No lopping in there at all. There is NO need for an expert for any of this. My QH and draft mix has no withers. So it was hard to find where the saddle sat. Plus each horse might need a different size. Ranger (QHDraft) is a 17 saddle. He’s massive, at least 15 hands. He is big all around. Not fit for any fast pace events(barrels) but he’s amazing on trails of when I’m working out in the back. He has a problem keeping his head up and that has caused him and me to be rolled more times that I can count due to him picking up speed and me not pulling his head up in time. My fault, but it is something I’m working on with him. A lot of this is wrong. If you need information on western riding look for someone who actually rides western. Don’t base off google or whatever this woman based it off of. Not to be rude or disrespectful at all, but please before you do something like this make sure you look at multiple different sources and talk to someone who does that specific thing.
I don't usually respond to these comments but, for the sake of spreading misinformation, I'd like to clarify a few things. This video is intended for people who want to show in the stock horse circuit. In regards to your statements: if you are working cattle in the field, you're going to need to lope. I agree each horse is going to need a different saddle WIDTH. '17' is referring to the seat size, meant for your butt. The width of the saddle is to accommodate the width of the horse. Western saddles usually refer it to "semi-quarter horse bars", "full quarter horse bars", etc. I am happy that you won a saddle, but chances are it doesn't fit your wide guy like it should and that is why you are having difficulty finding where the saddle should sit. Good point that people should look at multiple sources, I agree completely. However, I have been riding Western since I was born, trained multiple world and reserve world champions (in western), and started numerous colts (in western). Don't believe me, click on my channel name and watch some of my other videos. I know what I'm talking about.
She doesn’t seem as comfortable in the western saddle and there is not that much connection when she’s riding western so I think she mainly focusses on riding English
That first horse looks identical to a horse I used to have. It warms my heart to see this horse. Mine died of COPD we had to put him to euthanize him because he was struggling to breathe and we done everything we could including oral steroids to open the airways. He lived a long full life and passed at age 25. He was the sweetest horse I ever had. He was a good boy ❤️
Unbridle Yourself Yes it is. Good job! When referring to English discipline it is a trot and a canter. When referring to the Western discipline it is a jog and a lope. Thank you for watching my video!
My brother who ride in a western saddle says "I cantered today" so... When he says that again, I'm gonna say "actually it's called a lope, not a canter.. a canter is faster than a lope"
well you gonna sound hella stupid because we go way faster than that nobody ever really goes that slow...like ever ive never seen that in my entire life this was some bs
I ride Western. Well it’s technically called a lope but people at my barn use canter interchangeably so it’s really just a name, meaning speed doesn’t really matter. You can fast lope, slow canter, etc. It’s really just two different names for the same thing. However, I don’t ride English so maybe it’s something different in that discipline.
If you guys know so much about about western and English why the hell are u even on this video, it seems like u came here just to judge since you already “know it all”. Everyone’s critiquing the teacher but their on this video trying to learn from her...
Also I don't know where you got the idea of that being riding western no offense but your making western riding look like you don't do anything and its boring. You don't just sit there and you NEVER I repeat NEVER lean back in your saddle. If the horse is cantering galloping or a fast trot then it stop quickly leaning back or forward will throw you off the horse. And we do more then just sit there and in western you hardly ever walk so you are always doing something. [WARNING TO ALL VIEWS] This is NOT how you western ride riding like she did on the video could go wrong in many ways DO NOT WESTERN RIDE THINKING YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING IF YOU WANT TO WESTERN RIDE LOOK FOR A TRAINER IN WESTERN RIDING DO NOT WATCH A VIDEO AND THEN THINK YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
I really wish people would stop talking about things they clearly have no knowledge on. Here we are on RU-vid put “AQHA Congress western pleasure” in your search bar and you will see that this woman is not as crazy or dumb as you make her seem. By your description of what “western riding” is I’d assume you don’t know what Western Pleasure is so here I’ll educate you. Western pleasure is supposed to look easy. That’s the whole point. Your supposed to be able to ask your horse to lower its head and get on the bit and give it all the directions while using nothing but your seat and legs. Albeit I do think the way people breed and train their horses makes their movement seem very unnatural and almost lame, but the sport has good intentions and is quite fun if you try it. This woman may not be the perfect western rider but you have no right to judge because we all have our faults as riders. For this very brief and short video I thought she did very well at touching base of what English and western pleasure is. Albeit there’s 1000 more steps to this sport I didn’t think she gave any misinformation either.
I just came across your channel and I am very glad I did! I found this video positive and did not miss the drama that is so prevalent in the Utube equine world. I am now looking forward to checking out your other content as a new sub! ☺
when she demonstrated the walk trot canter for both the english and western it looked super slow. the canter should be much faster then the trot. also fix your microphone.
Holy horses. Does anybody in the comments understand the English and Western pleasure worlds? All what she is doing is normal for these disciplines. I use my paint quarter horse for dressage, hunters, and eventing. He is pretty much an all around english boy.
I want to do Western and English but I need to figure out what one I think is better I like both I want a western and English horse but I don’t know what to get first I really want to do jumping and I’ve been riding western for longer than I’ve been writing English but if anyone has any suggestions please let me know Note both of my parents want me to do western but they said they will be fine with whatever I chose
holidays agreed. If she's been riding for a while this won't help her at all. This is more for people that are literally BRAND new to anything horse related
@@LaurelH ive only ridden Western and how I was taught was more than likely different. Commonly I use split or neck reining. The bridle you used for English is very similar to my preference. We actually just use walk trot canter and run in my lessons. I agree there is definitely so much more than what can be explained in a video. As someone who knows nothing about English riding, I enjoyed seeing the differences
@@caryulmer5578 I was taught pinky out always, no exceptions. I have worked/ridden at various stables over the course of 15 years. Maybe one way has fallen out of fashion over the years in England and not the US.
Hmmm, not really... its a whole lot more than that and she's holding the reins wrong, she doesn't look comfortable. (yeah western is more comfortable than English but you can absolutely be comfortable in an English saddle) I could say a lot about everything wrong, but I'm not going to...
Idk why y'all r hating on her. That's how she was taught. And in western pleasure that's how your movements usually r. I mean my Great-Grandma rode western pleasure. Me I only barrel race, pole bend, goat yet, rope and trail so I don't know the specifics but she is 92% of what I was taught. I have only rode English once and that was having to act as. a. jockey for a friend as a dare 5 years ago so I don't know anything on English really even though I'm the granddaughter of a show jumper/barrel racer.
It's sad that I already know the difference but I'm just that bored that I'll watch anything in 'suggested'. I'm started out in English and transitioned to western. Honestly I HAAATED the English tack and I found it made a lot of the horses I worked with incredibly uncomfortable.
That double leverage metal bit is way to much and not neccessary. The pain is just not justified. You can ride without a bit and do everything you need.
There are several kinds of bits used in western. More than likely that's the bit she prefers to use or the horse was trained to use. And for the bridle, it probably wasn't tightened. Honestly, my bridle I use for western is basically the same as the English. Its just the style of bridle she chose; I imagine it can be tightened to for better
Yes you do that’s the proper way. If you ride with the reins on different sides it just helps so if you drop the reins they don’t fall off the neck automatically