Hey I just noticed, polyphony is not the about of notes you can play at once, it's the amount of layers the instrument can render to make the most realistic sound.
Digitals can do much more sounds than the traditional ones. Traditional ones do that one type of sounds better, but the electric pianos can do all other things (like anything in rock music).
I am a piano teacher, and the P45 is my go-to recommendation for all of my starter students. Once you are about $500-$600 into digital pianos, the returns after that diminish pretty significantly as you spend more. High end digital pianos will run you between $5,000 and $20,000. Are they cool, fun to play, and impressive? Heck yeah! Are they 10 to 40 times better than the p45? Heck no.
what would be an upgrade to p45? p125? roland fp 10 ? roland fp30x? what about kawai? I'm confused what to buy I'm a beginner in classical music. I will have to use the piano for the next 10 years or so for a bigger upgrade
@@Rin-cj2de what features are important to you? Are you looking for purely the most accurate reproduction of an acoustic piano in a digital format? Or are you looking for some producer features/add ons? What is your budget like? Is portability a significant factor for you? Full disclosure, I don't think you get any kind of a significant upgrade to the p45 until you're spending more than $1,000 on something. The exception to that statement is if you're looking for some sort of a different feature like an arranger keyboard would provide
@@lukeselker5175 I have no keyboard or piano as of now though I've been attending the class for 6 months i really need to have one in the apartment for practice sessions But i don't know which piano to buy, there's too many different opinions on RU-vid. I will mostly use it to practice techniques, i think?
@@Rin-cj2de please acknowledge that I have a bias towards Yamaha pianos, and I don't have expertise with other brands. I prefer the Yamaha sound and feel on their digital and acoustic pianos. What I would tell most of my students is that if you want an appreciable step up from the p45, my opinion is that happens when you reach the Yamaha p515. The increments in between do have improvements in features, but I don't think they represent a significant step forward for the added cost. If you are less concerned with portability, you could start looking at the lower end of the clavinova line, like the CLP725. Those will run you $1,500 and $2,000 respectively. If you are not opposed to buying used, you can save some money in that way and get a higher end CLP clavinova from the last few years for a few hundred dollars off. If someone has suggestions from another brand, please go ahead and reply with them. I simply don't know other brands products stacks well enough to make a recommendation from Roland or Casio or one of the other big brands.
Just a small note about the polyphony number: technically, the acoustic piano has an infinite polyphony, because if you press the sustain key and then press a key twice, the sound that comes after the second key press is influenced by the first. With a polyphony of 88 notes, this would mean that every time you press a key, the sound and its influence disappears into nothingness as soon as you stop pressing the key. In reality, it is almost impossible to simulate the way the sound resonates and influences the other keys with software. However, I must say that modern digital pianos can imitate just that amazingly well. (Well, they also claim to have unlimited polyphony, lol) Great video!
I have an upright and digital. For me the upright wins hands down. Can't beat the sound waves coming out of it and the feel of the keys. Also!!! Tuning is easy!!! No joke, I was scared to do it too, but honestly use an app like pianometer and a $45 tuning kit and your good to go. Great vid :) and I agree for 90% of people the digital is definitely the best choice. Definitely when it comes to midi.
When it comes to piano music, it is common to think of the sound of acoustic pianos used by great composers and pianists such as Mozart and Beethoven. However, with the advancement of technology, modern digital pianos have also become widely used by professional and amateur musicians. Although acoustic pianos produce sound through the vibrations of the strings, which are amplified by the soundboard, digital pianos produce sound through sampling, where a sound is recorded and then played back through speakers. This means that the technology used to produce sound is completely different. However, the quality of a piano's sound is not the only factor that determines the beauty and emotion of the music produced. The pianist's ability to express musicality is fundamental, and it is this ability that makes the music of Mozart and Beethoven so beautiful and emotional, not just the sound quality of the piano they used. Furthermore, the technology of modern digital pianos is constantly evolving, and some high-quality models are able to reproduce sounds that are very close to those of acoustic pianos, with a wide range of expressive timbres and nuances. It is possible that modern digital pianos offer a comparable, or even superior, sound experience to the acoustic pianos used by ancient composers. It is important to note that the pianist's ability to express musicality is fundamental to the beauty and emotion of the music produced, regardless of the instrument being used. While the technology of modern digital pianos may offer new sound possibilities, the pianist's ability to express their musicality remains the most important factor in producing beautiful and emotional music. In summary, while acoustic pianos and modern digital pianos use different technologies to produce sound, the quality of sound is not the only factor that determines the beauty and emotion of the music produced. The pianist's ability to express musicality is fundamental, and it is this ability that makes the music of Mozart and Beethoven so beautiful and emotional. The technology of modern digital pianos is constantly evolving and may offer new sound possibilities, but the pianist's ability to express their musicality remains the most important factor in producing beautiful and emotional music.
I'm confused on what was being compared, I skimmed through the video a couple of times and never got to hear the P22. For the most part, I can't stand digital pianos, but in years past I came across some pretty good samples in Reason. If I were shopping for a digital, I'd be looking at Nord or Yamaha. IMO nothing beats an acoustic ...I love that there can be so much variance among acoustics, truly giving the impression of a unique character. Perhaps jaded from playing too many chintzy sounding digitals with the standard canned MIDI patches.
Hi thanks for your video! I have P45 some months and I definitely love it. Recently came up to my mind to use dual voice for both grand and bright pianos together, try that! Excited from its rich sound :-)
Tysm for making this vid. I was planning on getting a good yet affordable piano and I thought the p-45 was the perfect choice so I watched some videos on it and haven’t seen anything negative on it and I will be getting it this Christmas :) for someone who doesn’t have a piano but knows how to play it sucks not having one 😂
With proper maintenance, a quality acoustic piano can last a lifetime and, in most cases, retain most of its value. Unfortunately, digital pianos do not. They depreciate much more, have shorter lifespans due to obsolete replacement parts, or simply because of continuous advancements in technology. Digital pianos, however, are an excellent choice when floor space, or budget is an issue, not to mention the other advantages presented in this video such as not having to spend the money to tune, portability, etc... With my old Yamaha keyboard, I had to replace the worn out contact strip twice (it's under the keys), as well as the battery for the memory, which is hard wired into the circuit board. Many buttons and switches no longer work because they have simply worn out and the parts are no longer available, just like an old radio, or a computer that becomes obsolete before you know it. My mom's acoustic Baldwin Acrosonic was purchased in the 1960's, was well maintained, and to this day, plays very, very well. My 30 year old Yamaha acoustic upright still plays like it was new. It's all a matter of preference, but I believe the acoustic piano has a superior sound than a sample of that sound going through speakers. Don't get me wrong, digital pianos are great and the advanced sampling technology is incredible, especially with the higher end models. They have made the piano/keyboard instrument more popular than ever. There are keyboard players, and there are piano players. They are actually two different instruments, but to me there is nothing like the sound, as well as the longevity, and the integrity of a quality acoustic piano. If you're able to make the investment, it will last you a lifetime.
Agree. We (my daughter) have a 1957 acoustic and it's awesome. I used to have lessons on a 1885 piano and that was awesome. I bought a Kawai digital...it was okay. I then bought a Rittmuller 112 acoustic and it is awesome. Have lessons on a beautiful old grand and that is awesome too. I hated the P45... hated the Yamaha Arius too. Acoustic cannot be compared with any digital.
I started with a Yamaha P series digital piano that was eventually replaced with a Yamaha acoustic piano after I literally wore the digital piano out with hours of practice over several years. I joked that the digital Yamaha was a gateway to their acoustic range, because I found that their touch and response was very similar across both ranges of pianos.
Just wanna tell you the duration of your video is 11:11 which took me by surprise and I immediately make a wish LOL. I don't know whether you indeed intended that. However, 11:11 is Angel number in spirituality so yeah I freak out 😅 BTW, I have P45, bought in 2016. In my opinion, it's the best decision I've made to buy this type due to the graded hammer keys which I think are heavier than Clavinova and DGX series. Also the grand piano voice is smoother than those series I've mentioned. I can't compare to acoustic type because I don't have one. But if I could afford Yamaha JU109, I would have bought it. I think it's the one that James Blunt always plays on the stage especially for "Goodbye My Lover" song. However, I have a bad experience with my P45 when I was about to make one song with it. I've connected it to PC so I can make my own music with MixCraft. Unfortunately, after several plug-unplugs, my P45 started to freak out. It started to play demos song by itself when I was in the middle of playing a song as if someone touched the function button at the same time. I left it for 3-5 months off (power cable is unplugged) because I didn't know how to solve them. I didn't wanna bother with taking it to the service center. So, I stopped playing piano for that period of time (5 months). For God Sake, one day I tried to turn it on because I couldn't bear it having holiday without playing a single song. And bang! IT FIXED ITSELF. Now, it's back to normal. However, I am still afarid to connect it to my PC. I'm afraid it will freak out again. Because my father thought it had something to do with the plug-unplugs to the PC. Thank you for the brief review💓
@@TopSpecMedia I didn't order from your affiliate cause it says the product is used. I want a brand new Yamaha P-45. Eventually I ordered it from Bajaao.com (Indian music store). Its cash on delivery.
Very important thing that I wish I knew sooner, and an advice for anyone who is in the market for a piano or a digital piano from a pianist that owns 2 pianos and 2 digital pianos. If You can afford even an acceptable level used piano or an upright, and You are serious about classical/romantic pianism, You should definitely go for that over any digital piano, otherwise digital piano is more than enough, perhaps even better due to midi support and being able to just connect it to a PC.
Hello please answer me I have a Yamaha p45 and its touch sensitivity is not working what should I do or is there a function to on and off it please answer me
In my humble opinion, the P45 is cheaply built and does not compare well even to other digital pianos. A Clavinova CLP would probably perfom much closer to an acoustic piano.
i went to my music store nearby and i went to have a look For a digital piano i finally bought a korg b2, i doubted really hard between the yamaha p45 and the korg b2, now i regret That i didnt buy the yamaha
What do you think about getting a MIDI Keyboard in place of a digital piano to practice at night (thinking of Arturia Keylab 88, hammer action) ? I have an acoustic already but I do meddle with some Music Production often so getting a MIDI Keyboard gives me the ability to control DAWs and the freedom to play with the Sound Libraries I have, though its more difficult to "turn on".
Midi keyboards are great, though I do think you should consider looking at some digital pianos--yamaha makes more higher end pianos than the P45 if you're willing to spend a similar amount as you would on the Arturia Keylab 88. Digital pianos can be used as midi keyboards or as a standalone device but if you decide to purchase a midi piano you're comitting to always being dependent on having a computer. Whichever way you decide to go though I do believe that electronic keyboards are a great way to practice.
Hi . A quick question . Does the p45 weighted keys offer as much as of resistance to a upright one? I am buying for training techniques , so does they require similar strength to press the key ? Thx
Believe it or not, I started with a P45 piano. But something I noticed is that when you switch to a classy piano, it will be hard. But with time, it becomes easier to play the new one and harder for the P45. I practiced and am able to play both, but P45 is SUPER hard.
The GHS action is a bit slow, particularly on the P-45. Whenever I try to play rapid arpeggios on a P-45, it really lets me down. It might be fine for the first few years of study, but not for me. I use the GHE and GH actions, which Yamaha has abandoned, strangely. They are both firmer and quicker than GHS.
Any person who plans to learn piano (classical baroque romantic) etc... the P45 is absolutely no. It is at best an entry level keyboard for anyone wanted not the above. I am quite shocked it is being reccomenced over an acoustic piano - absolute madness.
You will never convince me that a digital piano can come close to the quality of sound from an acoustic piano. It just makes no sense from a PHYSICS standpoint.. What makes the piano sound is the case, hammers, strings inside a piano. All a digital piano does is replay a recording of a sampled note. There's no strings, there's no hammers, there's no reverb bouncing off the walls of a big grand piano wooden case.
I got a p45 digital piano, i have never tried a grand piano until a few weeks ago, and when I did, I said to myself "wow, my digital piano really imitates what a grand does". And sure, the sound difference you say and everything is true, the gap is not THAT big. Plus, you can press a digital piano key faster than in a upright. Btw everything I say is from experience
@@alejomontoya9794nope!!!! No comparrison. I have experienced several digitals and now acoustics. I have lessons on a mature grand. There is no comparrison.
Shengliang... exactly...no comparrison. The p45 was the first digital I tried and hated it. We have an acoustic Knight 1957 piano but that is my daughters and as a complete beginner...the keys were too heavy for me so I bought a Kawai KDP110. I enjoyed it somewhat for a year but every time I played the Knight, I noticed I started avoiding the Kawai. I bought my own new acoustic...Rittmuller 112...awesome!
@@keys6 A year later, being more experienced now, I can say digital pianos are great to learn and practice and whatever you would play on an acoustic piano can be played in a good digital. That said, nothing beats an acoustic, if I could afford one I would get it, but the price is too high for me
Im geting the p45 soon but was a little bit concerned when you said the keys are audible unless you have the volume turned all the way up. Would you say the sound is audibly annoying or just bearable?
I actually have grown to like it a bit; it makes the keyboard feel premium because the noise is really just the weighted mechanism activating. It's not quite as loud as I made it seem in the video either.
Top Spec sounds reassuring thanks for replying!! was going to buy it anyway but needed to address all concerns as this is my first time investing on something expensive
Totally understandable :) Enjoy the piano! Btw, it would be amazing if you could use our affiliate link in the description of this video if you plan on buying on amazon; we don't run ads yet so it's only way of putting money back into the channel at the moment. Either way, cheers!
Top Spec thanks! I would if i could!! But i dont live in a place where amazon is easily accessible so i cant help with that. You just gained a new sub though :) hope you’ll keep making great content!
yo yo, 10/10 review homie. i gots a question though. i was looking at another review on this keyboard, and the person was talking about “sensitivity control”. so my question is, does that mean it’s possible to switch the feeling of the keys to a heavier/lighter setting? :D
The P45 for me was dreadful. Saw for £500. I ended up getting a Kawai KDP110... a hundred times better but still moved on to an acoustic. No competition there.
You are quite a professional RU-vid contributor, but the overall effect was spoilt by too many jump edits! I think I would play a specific and more demanding piece on each piano as just running up and down a few keys is not a demanding test. How do these pianos cope with Beethoven and Brahms? Thanks for uploading.
The reason for the jump cuts is because we try to follow a script but do not own a teleprompter, so we have to try and remember as much of a line as possible then move on to the next line, for the whole script. Hopefully in the future we can get a teleprompter that would certainly mean less cuts! -Chris
@@TopSpecMedia You might find it easier to assemble a series of shots and do a voice-over. It is not necessary to appear before the camera for the entire presentation - you can just appear at the beginning to introduce your subject!
Polyphony? Hold down the sustain pedal and play a whole sweep of notes, and by the time yu get up high, the lower notes will be cutting off. That's why higher polyphony, like 192 on the P-125, will be more realistic.
How about the touch of the keys? keys on the most of the digital pianos are much lighter than the 'actual' grand piano. That's one of the main concerns when people try to get a digital piano. Would you please comment about P-45 keys comparing to a grand piano? Thanks.
Actually the keys of the P45 are somewhat light, they have enough weight for a beginner and an intermediate but it is not very hard like a grand piano, the pianos that reach that hardness are more expensive, they are the models: Yamaha P515 and Clavinova which have a lot of weight on the keys, I have tried clavinovas and I have the P45 and the difference is very noticeable.
It's true that it's a huge leap from a P-45 to a grand piano, though some grand actions are fairly light and some uprights have very stiff actions. All the main brand portable pianos have light plastic actions or expensive wood ones that break your back. But the Korg B2 and Alesis Prestige are at similar prices to the P-45, and I think they have slightly better actions. There are some inexpensive stage pianos with heavier plastic actions, but they have no built-in speakers: Korg D1, Studiologic Numa X Piano, Kawai MP-7SE, Yamaha CP-73. The last two are more mid-range in price. NB The actions on some mid/high end dps feel better than those on some uprights. And the uprights always cost much more. The Clavinova CLP-785 (high end dp) is astonishing for its sound and action. It outplays most uprights costing twice the price.
@@TopSpecMedia Thank you for your reply, sorry I have just seen it now in updates. This inspired me to keep playing piano and learning to compose :) hope to listen to more of your piano playing in the future
There’s a lot of different ways to capture it, but the way we did this was by connecting it to an audio interface using a 6.3mm to XLR cable and capturing it with audacity. We may make a video on this if it’s requested enough!
@@geometrydashiuppiter6910 I believe you can also use a 6.5mm to 3.5mm audio cable if your computer has a 3.5mm audio jack that supports microphones, but don't quote me on that. It's far more common to use an interface because its usually much higher quality, you can adjust the gain, and you can plug headphones in for lag-free audio monitoring. Capturing digital pianos is certainly worth covering, I'll do a little more research and make a video on this when time allows!
you cant really make house music with an analog piano. that driving sound just cant be done lol thats why i think i failed with komplete 12 as it eemulates real pianos rather then emulating the classic digital pianos used for house music
