@@danielstewart6893 I remember the estate being a bit miffed. Said we stole from him and left him for broke. Could have been an impostor trying to stirr shit, but it's kinda sad either way. I just think, you changed music forever dude! It's just a shame.
Amen break beats. My soul. My brother would come in to my room while playing the drums as a kid and ask me to play breaks but I didn’t know what he meant. I came a bit late to the scene but went to a few parties with my brother and his crew back in the early 2000s. Saw Dom live (which was mind blowing even though He was sick as fck) Primarily Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Fell in love. I’ve since created two studio albums of my own completely inspired by breakbeat drum funk type. We would sit and research all of the sounds. My brother a vinyl collector and dj himself had a lot of Sources for me to look into . All about the classic jungle breaks. Source direct exercise the demons was my primary influence as well as Ed rush and optical, Amon robin . It was all to show my respects to the style and hope that people in the know would see. Hell its been ten years since I started that. Anyone who is interested dm me and I’ll send you links to my stuff. Always open to feedback. I created all of it in Renoise which I can’t stress enough as a fantastic tracker program. Nothing but love to all of you.
They are two different tracks, very similar yes, but neither is a remix of the other, They could though be called two artists different interpretations of a similar theme.
He was the guy who played the original amen break. Google: 'The Winstons - Amen brother' to hear the original song. There is a six second drumbreak which caused a new style of music to develop a couple of decades later.
I defend this. This was a release in it's original state - fade 2 black. This is the rmx. Taken a long time to find it. Worthy it's weight i ngold. BOOM!
Not sure, wasn't there an understanding at some point that stuff like 2 bad mice are "old school breaks" and drum n bass is new school breaks? That's what the drum 'n bass mailing list told me back in the early 2000's, I think. I remember that there was even a speedwise relationship between gabber music and DnB.
old school as in older yeah, but a track from 2001 sounds nothing like jungle unless the producer has intentionally arranged the track to sound like jungle. A Reason often overlooked for later tunes to sound very different to old jungle is the reliance on automated daws in contrast to the old jungle guys using amigas and samplers.
Its a Lemon D solo track and it was on dub for ages before release, infact i'd imagine it was made at a similar time to Fade 2 black. If I remember right the title came from the fact that people were trying to ID it ie "Whats that amen track?", answer "That amen track". Actually listed as That Amen Trk for anyone thats having trouble finding it VLV003
Is it definitely Lemon D though? I know the original Fade to Black was obviously Lemon D as Souljah, but this version does sound like a Dillinja tune, there's a few of the edits that sound way more like him that like Lemon D....
You mean Lemon D? Anyone that owns a copy of Urbanology and holds it up to Going gets Tough, know's his subtle flavors. Dilla caught reck for anthems hittin' harder those days, but Lemon D had a wider sonic palette. Plus this tune has the same kit as Whiplash remix. Seen?
Old skool(d&b) is generally regarded as being from the hardcore/jungle days ie roughly 92-95. To make life easier for yourself, if you want old skool d&b, just search for jungle :-) you might have better search results. This tune, whilst being heavily Amen led, is not jungle, just a weighty piece of d&b.
Lemon D wrote Fade to Black and this is obviously pretty closely related. They were also both working on tunes and the Valve system together. Think that's why they are both credited.
This is definitely not old skool jungle. Old yeah but not jungle, but a very very good piece of D&b nontheless. Dillinja and Lemon D are both unbelievable producers.
