Dinah Jane on Being Left Off Fifth Harmony Songs | BO$$, Sledgehammer 

naw not really, normani sung lead cuz the track was more of a hiphop vibe , sometimes it really just boils down to the sound for the audience, Dinah has a deep strong voice and not every song wins with that ingredient

she would WHINE & screech through all of those “soulful” parts at that 💀

Camilla vocals were not “soulful” during those days. Don’t lie to yourself lol. If you don’t like her that’s fine

@@notyou666 Camilla turned me off of 5H tbh 😭

@@Bunnybunny5656 I didn’t say that her vocals were soulful. My point is that it wasn’t. They didn’t give the Dinah Jane good vocal parts bc she was “too soulful” and gave it to Camilla bc they thought she was vocally better?? I guess? and that’s just false.

It’s only because she had the most “pop” sound.

She was supposed to be Moana but management denied her 😢

Her talk voice look alike Mariah Carey

I still think it's so INSANE that Camila had songs where she sang like 70% while there's songs where Dinah and Lauren don't sing at all.

even "fans" are pitting them against each other, that's even more disgusting tbh.

The real fans knew this all along. They never spoke directly about it, it was always some cliché moments in soundchecks/ meet & greets/ tour interludes etc... It breaks my heart hearing her speak about this now (and before).

@@Mofusion At the height of their fame you could see the cracks in the foundation but a lot of people didn't realize how bad it was until the hiatus & the members really spilled the beans. I knew it was bad BUT I didn't know how bad

I always see them as girls who just really want to sing. I am always amazed by them. Too bad, the business part of 5th Harmony has no mercy. 😢

@@MofusionI remember Lauren would be cryptic af in numerous interviews/Q&A saying stuff like “read your contracts” to a fan who asked about getting into the industry, or generally just hinting at their lack of input in the group.

@@isaiahacevedo541 That moment is engraved in my brain for life and I'm not exaggerating. I spent most of teen years being super obsessed with them so I have this kind of grew up with them mentality. It hurts me that I knew about their mistreatment but we never really got to do anything because the label was in high power. Which was frustrating. They were never given creative control until Camila left cause Epic just wanted the girls to do anything guaranteed they'd flop and they'd get dropped 😔.Epic Records is literally hell, Look at Madison Beers career. Her first album took a WHILE to release despite having 3 singles. As well as Zara Larsson, she had 5 singles before her debut. Epic Records is basically a really greedy company.

please she was the worst at singing live, always out of breath

I would say her and Ally had the best ranges. Camila was just pitchy

I was just about to say this!

💯

Her breathe control wasn’t great though but her vocals are

I noticed that too 🤣

Real🤣🤣🤣

LMFAO 😭

yeah it’s sad that group was basically made to launch Camila’s solo career. The other girls deserved better

@@fvntasea undeniable talent and star power speaks for itself so regardless they could have done whatever they wanted afterwards with their platform. Camila had star power , Demi location saw it even in X-factor , she knew Camila had the full package Camila’s voice is a unique pop voice that stood out in group of soulful voices. And she was conventionally, attractive and charismatic.. she had the full package sorry not sorry Not to mention how much she really showed she was an artist with her constantly songwriting while the other girls were chillin and resting. Not only did she have the talent and look but she had the drive and passion. I SAID WHAT TF I SAID

Its not Camilas fault she was a fan favorite an none of yall fans really supported they solo career without them music goes nowhere an none of they music hit normani is just being lazy she has the fans backing but not pushing her stuff

@@Prettiest_femalerapper_ever the other girls can sing laps around camila, let’s not even go there! camilas voice is weak af compared to all the others especially Dinah , Ally & Lauren. Lauren has always been the fan favorite if you really wanna talk about it. That’s why camila was jealous of her and it was exposed when her iphone got hacked and she would have notes in her iphone about how she was jealous of Lauren 😂

@@blairturner139 camila is only as famous as she is because of epic records , they pushed her to the forefront and signed her for a solo career of course the other 4 flopped as a group cause they were under the same label.

All those songs they performed Ot4 she ate 🤭

@@RoyaltysTalentnot the kpop girlies using their language for western groups lmao

Let’s not forget who the people resonate with and which led to more success and who didn’t

@@Prettiest_femalerapper_everI think a lot of people resonate with all the girls. If you listen to the entire interview you might understand that. Like the fact the girls don’t attack each other but their “fans” do is wild. They support each other so just move along. They are all talented and deserve a lot.

@@jacobwaln4070 that’s fine but numbers don’t lie

that’s the one thing I appreciate about Little Mix. They all got equal shine, equal parts, nobody outdid the other. The consciously decided to be equals and be a group. It’s sad fifth harmonys label wouldn’t provide for them in the same ways! It’s creates a competitive atmosphere for sure.

@@Lainey97the label is on here to make money

It’s still a business and a job lol

This isn't new though. I'm not saying it's okay but it seem pretty common. Happened even in DC. Michelle has pipes but you never really heard her until much later on. Happened a ton in Danity Kane. The difference is though with DK they actually got told how to sing so they had a chance to get on the record. Butnif your sound wasn't a fit they left you off. In this case it sounds like they just left her off without really helping her out. I'm sure the same thing happened in the 90s girl groups.

@@mevolutionarybyliz OMG you're so pretty!!!!

Little Mix had so much more support from the label and public in general than Fifth Harmony, it's crazy how these fans want to talk about the supposed "mistreatment" of Little Mix which is obviously invented cause they never had any, you"ll be surprised at the amount of misoginy Fifth Harmony faced when they were together and how they're still facing it, Little Mix talk about a misoginy they never experienced in their songs.

@@moonlightespt3818how do you know they haven’t experienced it? Were you there? Both bands were mistreated, perhaps Fifth Harmony more so than Little Mix (possibly, we don’t know for sure) but definitely Little Mix didn’t have it easy.

​@@moonlightespt3818 bruh being a woman in the music industry, it's tough for everyone, especially if you have a distinct vision. little mix had their battles and were mistreated, 5h were just mistreated 10 times more.

And pushing Camilla to the front. People always want to cuddle her, ignoring that all the girls suffer from bullying. Let's not talk about Normani, who got really racist remarks back then. But because there are some clips of the members "ignoring" Camilla, so people took it as Camilla being the victim always.

​@@moonlightespt3818 little mix had 0 support from their record label in the sense of promo because they were a girlgroup, one direction never had that problem. 5h were pit against eachother by their label, something they don't do to boygroups. reeks of mysogyny either way and dismissing one is doing no justice to women in the industry

She’s the best where as normani is the weakest

if you don't mind me asking, I'm curious to what made you not list Ally? While vocal style and characteristics are of course up for preference, when it comes to the definition of vocal talent, Ally is the strongest in almost every area: skill, technique, range, musicality, resonance, etc (although she and Normani both possess whistle register, Ally has the highest vocal range and Normani can also go lowest)

@@divadreamSimple. Because Ally wasn’t buried

camilla also has the look. Dinah doesn't have that pop mainstream look.

I agree- even as soloists on xfactor, dinah and lauren were the best vocally

@@divadream Honestly I wasn't really a fan of Ally's voice. Just my personal preference. She was just "okay" for me. Although I really like Normani, I like her overall performance ability. Lauren and Dinah Jane's voices got me from the beginning. If you go back to them doing the acapella version of Honeymoon Avenue you will see what I mean.

Same. Her audition stood out to me the most, and that's why she was my favourite throughout the show.

American groups from what I noticed always have a star in the group they make sure is always scene I noticed foreign groups or non American groups tend to always have members share vocals equally on a track I swear American group members are always pinned against each other

@@mircalehughes7412I noticed that too!

They tried to do the same with Little Mix in regards to having Perrie as the "lead" but Little Mix fought their management for their entire career to make sure they all had equal say, the concept of equality was something that was integral to the group and the reason why they lasted so long Vs Fifth Harmony who imploded in a number of years, largely due to that inequality between members. The whole thing of having 1 lead singer is usually seen in US girl groups too (although it is a sexist and ridiculous industry standard that has been consistently disproven).

There is always one in the comment section who knows these people "personally" and then go on with the BS. Camila worked her ass off , just say you are a hater and go off. Btw , Roger is her manager. Her mom is not

@@ST-vg3vs it’s not bullshit hun. I could care less about fifth harmony but when you know someone personally you know a lot of what goes on behind the scenes. It is what it is. Camila almost bought of her contract with fifth harmony and paid 300k but was advised not to by higher ups because there was only months left of it that’s how miserable these girls were

@@nurialozza7908 Dang what a terrible confidante you are to be sharing all of this private information to youtube if you really "know" her

@@ehr0 hun this is old news simply wanted you to understand there’s a lot more that goes on behind the scenes than fans like you think

what happened behind the scenes that no one talks about?

Exactly I Never liked Camila she was always doing the most trying to outshine them Dinah Normani and Lauren ate her up in every way they had way better range and vocal abilities than her. Camila played victim saying she was bullied by them and left out when really she was the main/only star THEY were the ones who got left out and treated like shit lets not forget her racist jokes 😤

​@@jessiromero4967Camila doing great. Now why you girlies not streamed that album when it came out? Camila never acted like a victim. She was also nice inclusive and genuine. As a black woman I found Normani acting more like a victim in recent years than anybody. Everybody was abused in that group , all 5 of them and brutually and nobody did shit about it. So blame the toxic fans than put your hatred for one person here

@@jessiromero4967this is so weird that ur blaming camila for being in the spotlight in the group when all the girls were vocal abt the fact that its their producers choice to pick which part of the songs they get to sing, secondly she was racist but lets also not forget what shes been doing to help the blm program these past few yrs. Its ppl like u who ask for accountability then pretend blind when ppl actually act on it to change

@@justina3766 yup. When you are black or any other ethnicity with dark coloring that sing with power, do riffs runs, and is very skilled...you are told you're too soulful and should be quiet. Soul music is mostly associated with black people and music executives think that sound doesn't sell to the mainstream audience or white people. So, when you get told you are TOO SOULFUL it means YOU SOUND TOO BLACK AND YOU WONT MAKE IT MAINSTREAM OR TOP40. That's why you don't hear R&B on a Z100, Zach Sang or Ryan Seacrest because in their eyes, it doesn't sell. It is completely racist and it's a double standard when white counterparts like Adele, Sam Smith, and other can sing like that and be put on Billboards, mainstream radio, TV, etc.

shes not even black

@@sirij8784 we know she's Polynesian but the phrase , TOO SOULFUL, is coded as Too black , ethnic thus very racist

@@sailorkeyblader but there is alot of soulful musicians out there in alot of spaces. I just dont think shes that marketable for mainstream and thats okay. 99.99999999% aren't. She can kill it doing her niche.

Normani was and still is the best dancer lmao Dinah was 2nd however Dinah was always out of breath. Normani wasn't a strong vocalist but the better live performer

I think you're both wrong, Dinah was always out of breath, true, but Normani had some of the best vocals, she had the whistle notes and generally she could pull off a hour and a half show very easily. Ally was and still is the best vocally, she can belt notes and is very, very precise. She also has a great extension, can't say she is the most recognizable but If we're talking about singing.. she's is definitely the best. Dinah's voice is made for another kind of music, not the one she was making while on the group.

You’re delusional Dinah was always out of breath. The best live performers were camila and normani. Lauren could have been great but she was lazy when it came to dancing.

your a complete idiot, you can clearly see all there performances and see who clearly was the best dancer before all the dancing with the stars began. Dinah is still the youngest of the group she has alot of room and advantage in the industry. No one cares about nomoney or camiloff now they had there moments and are dry in music.@@tatum635

@@mauriziobruscagin4864Ally had the best voice but I never liked her tone. While I didn’t like it I can acknowledge that she had the best technical voice. Normani and Camila were the best live performers (hard to admit that for Camila tho it’s true). Lauren was very inconsistent with her effort and Dinah just didn’t have the stamina but was the second best dancer.

Girl what Dinah had massive problems with breathe control on live performances and so did Normani. Camila was the one who always sounded closest to the original track, she’s the only one with multiple billion streams on her songs lmaooo

Normani had the strongest voice? Girl what you on?! That's such a slap on my soul community 😂

@@9OsLatina they all sing better than Camilla to me 🤷🏽‍♀️😂

Yess I can hear her sing Breathe Again

Hahahaha yh the record label n producers don't wanna sell records n make money 🙄 don't be silly..like she said he had soulful voice and they were making pop songs..plus camilla has the best voice easy.. she's the only one u could recognise on the radio, dinah has a decent range and a powerful voice but there's no individuality unless u was a mega Stan u wouldn't recognise her voice

​@@jadebel7006y'all get really brave knowing Normani is having issues behind the scenes. Normani is easily recognizable. Normani outsings and outdances Camila any day. She also outdoes Camila in looks( face & body, as well as fashion).

@@yoyobobi1722It’s funny how the original comment is talking about Dinah being the only one who could sing yet u go after the one talking about Camila

@@yoyobobi1722 brave? Hahaha what are u talking about? Hahaha 🤣🤣 what is their to be scared of? Lool I think Normani has a nice voice ..but she sounds like any other chick ..u couldn't pick her voice out of a bunch of girls with other nice voices..unless ur a superfan..that's a fact..I really hope your a child to Stan this hard for a stranger 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@icegodsavior8885 lol, Dinah can sing yes but I have nothing mean to say about her. I like Dinah. Also, where did I lie?

I never love dinah jane no more become her 💔 🤧

@@chrishall6617what? That’s ridiculous

I always thought she got the most repetitive part. Like give her something new.

This is rude af, you must be mad Camila still came out on top even outside the group.

@@9OsLatina lol stop riding a person who don’t know you dick. I’m happy they are all experiencing success. plenty of people don’t like her voice including me.

Girl, it’s still HER opinion.

this is a dinah interview why are talking about not liking camila 😂

sounds like a cover up

Wasn't it Lauren?

leave my baby alone

That's her role in the grp. She's weakest vocally so I'd understad if certain parts are just not suited for her vocal range. She can't hit high notes. It's a non issue because all if not most of their songs have a rap part..