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Dirty Devs UPDATE: Grimoire Developer threatens physical harm and commits libel 

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In this Dirty Devs update video I discuss the complaints the Grimoire developer had over the Kiros360 Reddit post and I also discuss the potential legality surrounding his multiple lawsuit threats against Kiros, Reddit, and myself. I also discuss how in his exceptionally vitriolic tirade in the comments section of the previous Dirty Devs video, he actually managed to commit libel himself.
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@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
As this particular Developer hates “EBegging” why not check out my merch! 2 different styles of your very own “Toxic Consumer Advocacy” apparel, prints, stickers, mugs, and even phone cases! www.designbyhumans.com/shop/1048642/ www.designbyhumans.com/shop/1048676/
@exudeku
@exudeku 5 лет назад
SidAlpha he hates "EBegging" Huh... Better spend my money in Sid's merch because its *worth it*
@cheesaliciousable
@cheesaliciousable 5 лет назад
HoW DaRe YOu EbEGG oN CHuR oWN ChAnNEL ChU FiLthY eBeggER... ...ReEeEeEeEe
@ghb323
@ghb323 5 лет назад
These developers don’t really understand criticism well. If I know there is going to be errors in my work I made, I would welcome any criticism to point out those flaws. Otherwise I wouldn’t learn from them.
@AnakinTheWeird
@AnakinTheWeird 5 лет назад
lol
@cheesaliciousable
@cheesaliciousable 5 лет назад
Knowing this... i whouldn't have minded 2 or 3 disruptive merch advertisements shoved into the video... just for maximum salt mineing efficiency... i once worked with a guy like this, it took family in the company AND a hiring firm to get him hired... and it took a little over a year for him to get DUNKED ON...i was told he went ballistic that day, i was off soo...
@TheMisfitTestSubject
@TheMisfitTestSubject 5 лет назад
"Ah, and look, over there! The next part of our tour! Be very quiet, they can smell your common sense. These creatures... they are very, very peculiar. You see, when they're born, they have this organ in their skulls, however, these souls in particular are rare, because they exist without it! Fascinating, yes?" "Scientists still do not know how they somehow lost it, whether on purpose as a show of power, or perhaps even done against their will. Though, my friends, there is one thing in particular- they are some of the most idiotic creatures on the planet! Squirrels? They don't compare. Inanimate planks of wood? Trust me, absolute geniuses compared to them!" "Shhh... it seems to be preparing for its mating call!" "...That's a damn lie and I guarantee you if I knew the identity of the poster he would get served a defamation suit. There is a measurable impact on my successful commercial product and it is absolutely slanderous." "... Fascinating, is it not? Now, continuing on our internet safari!"
@exudeku
@exudeku 5 лет назад
TheMissfitTestSubject how much for a ride?
@lionocyborg6030
@lionocyborg6030 5 лет назад
TheMissfitTestSubject I couldn't help but read your description of the developer in David Attenborough's voice.
@TheMisfitTestSubject
@TheMisfitTestSubject 5 лет назад
@@exudeku "Oh, my good man, it's simple! We just need to factor in emotional damage, property damage, time wasted... crunch the numbers, and it comes out to just a mere ten million dollars!"
@exudeku
@exudeku 5 лет назад
TheMissfitTestSubject oh, oh! Will we go to the Court Section? I wanna see a big man cry!
@TheMisfitTestSubject
@TheMisfitTestSubject 5 лет назад
@@exudeku "Ah, my friend, is that even a question? But of course! This is a journey of discovery, my job is to show you all the creatures of the virtual world- the tall and the small, the dumb and the smart, no matter how utterly pathetic!"
@TwoWayOrbitalStation
@TwoWayOrbitalStation 5 лет назад
and on behalf of all Australians, I apologise for this sorry excuse for a human being. There's crazies in every country.
@WuYixiang
@WuYixiang 5 лет назад
Like many other people, I'm just scanning the comments for Texas Arcane.
@DevilOfRoses
@DevilOfRoses 5 лет назад
Literally have "Texas" in my find field and searching as I scroll down. :-P
@606hunter1
@606hunter1 5 лет назад
I just find stories like this upsetting because it is simply critique of art. Like every other artist you're supposed to take the critiques and then find ways to improve for the future. The only person ruining his reputation is himself and I doubt he'll learn from his mistakes or apologize for his actions. Great vid Sid. Keep it up
@doggone12ify
@doggone12ify 5 лет назад
Ah yes, i was there when this all went down and HOLY crap, I love how he threatened you with lawyers, but when you said you were ready for him he says "we don't need lawyers". God, I'm still dying over it.
@dubspool
@dubspool 5 лет назад
I’m gonna sue you Ok speak to my lawyers Well would you look at the time...
@joshbnimble
@joshbnimble 5 лет назад
"Shoot me an email buttercup." I shot Coke through my nose. It burned.
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
Sorry! lol
@iansarver8444
@iansarver8444 5 лет назад
Probably not as bad as that burn to Texas Arcane. Lol
@onyxtay7246
@onyxtay7246 5 лет назад
11:52 The video was 20 minutes long because he had to watch it at half speed so it ran as fast as his brain.
@lionocyborg6030
@lionocyborg6030 5 лет назад
Avarickan And even then he still needed to either pour water on his head or use a hose, else his brain would overheat from overclocking.
@whitewizard206
@whitewizard206 5 лет назад
As Jim Sterling once said: "Not enough popcorn on Earth."
@JaxMerrick
@JaxMerrick 5 лет назад
And after the DH lawsuit, it's now proven by a court that there isn't. :)
@KazumiKiguma
@KazumiKiguma 5 лет назад
@@JaxMerrick One of my favorite parts about the whole ordeal.
@judge_dreddpool7593
@judge_dreddpool7593 5 лет назад
When Digital Homicide mentioned that Jim saying that there's "not enough popcorn on Earth" in their "lawsuit" against Jim, he & his lawyer countered it by saying that they couldn't prove there was enough popcorn on Earth.
@themambawarrior2290
@themambawarrior2290 5 лет назад
If they engaged in mass downvoting, then that must be a pretty pathetic mass. Not even in the triple digits.
@drakan4769
@drakan4769 5 лет назад
1:02 53, they're 53 people (well 54 counting the dev)
@Sheevlord
@Sheevlord 5 лет назад
"You made a video about me therefore you're just as bad as people who believe that Russian bots got Trump elected". Perfect logic right there.
@GrimJoe05
@GrimJoe05 5 лет назад
Dirty Dev? More like Toxic Tyrant
@spongesonic20
@spongesonic20 5 лет назад
OOOOOOOOOH
@judge_dreddpool7593
@judge_dreddpool7593 5 лет назад
I think this guy is trying to become the new Digital Homicide/James Romine, just without the $10m lawsuit.
@zwabTheRealOne
@zwabTheRealOne 5 лет назад
You mean Romino the Italian mafia boss who was was after Jim fucking sterling, son? /Sarcam
@n3w2d3str0y0u
@n3w2d3str0y0u 5 лет назад
Don't you mean, Digital Suicide...? I'll see myself out.
@judge_dreddpool7593
@judge_dreddpool7593 5 лет назад
@@zwabTheRealOne Ohh yeah, he was a mafia boss. Yet, he and his.. well, what army did Romino even have? He couldn't defeat Jim fucking Sterling, son & his Dildo-Blade.
@erlitedev8694
@erlitedev8694 5 лет назад
I think I'm going to show this channel to my game design tutors and see if they can give us a quick recap on what is and isn't acceptable in the industry. Love your channel!
@iamaptpupil
@iamaptpupil 5 лет назад
Sorry Sid, we have 7 states in Australia. They are Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Northern Territory, Western Australia, and Tasmania. I mean in context, a lot of us mainlanders want to forget Tasmania is part of our country as they are the butt of all our jokes
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
My apologies, that was the exact statement in that Australia defamation site. Link's in the description. It literally said "All 6 states" lol.
@iamaptpupil
@iamaptpupil 5 лет назад
@@SidAlpha it's fine. That's actually hilarious, coming from a public servant supporting one states court system IT. I'm not a Tasmanian. And yay, my first spotlighted comment from you. Lol
@Prowl76
@Prowl76 5 лет назад
So they're the New Jersey of Australia?
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
lol from what I gather, yep!
@ajoajoajoaj
@ajoajoajoaj 5 лет назад
@@Prowl76 Or their Newfoundland from a Canadian perspective.
@haydenglatemore
@haydenglatemore 5 лет назад
once again as a developer in Queensland I would like to point out that this developer does not represent the Queensland game Dev community at all
@hockeyking30
@hockeyking30 5 лет назад
Falco 12351 too late. Like all people on the Internet I’ve made up my mind on this matter. Lol
@ndaemon1718
@ndaemon1718 5 лет назад
youre safe.. bear in mind most people wont even remember this incident i na few months. like almost all things it will be forgotten :)
@MaskedGEEK
@MaskedGEEK 5 лет назад
12:56 - "... I'm sure the Grimoire developer will show up ... " 13:05 - a snake appears in game. The dev showed up. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@Dragoonnight
@Dragoonnight 5 лет назад
Can I just say how much I love how your willing to do polite and informative responses to these kind of things, rather than... you know, do what the keep doing!
@zombie0ate0my0brains
@zombie0ate0my0brains 5 лет назад
Impressive that you have clearly put more effort into learning the laws this developer is trying to weaponize against you and a reddit user. I will be surprised if he tries to follow through with any of these legal threats, but if he does it will be just as morbidly fascinating as the Digital Homicide events.
@50chickens50
@50chickens50 5 лет назад
The generation you were born into doesn not prevent you from criticizing a product
@TheGamingDroid9000
@TheGamingDroid9000 5 лет назад
Average human male bone density is 3.88g per cubic centimetre, this varies quite a bit. But this guy claims to have 5 times average bone density, that points to his bone structure being between 15g and 20g leaning toward 20, per cubic centimetre. As the anatomical average human male has about 3500 cubic centimetres of none compressed bone mass in their body, that would put his bone structure at approximately about 63kgs, Using a mid density of 18g cubic centimetre, comparative to the 13kgs of bone average. Average body weight is about 70kgs, with between 38 and 58% being muscle mass, ((about 30-40kgs)) but he gives us a muscle mass of 49 kgs, Great so he has roughly 20% higher muscle mass but 500% higher bone density and hense weight (unless his bone structure is un-naturally small and thin in which case density wont prevent fragility). So basically the mental image I have is of a guy barely able to lift his own limbs because they are so bone dense, with his fractionally better muscled body. :D I say fight him Sid.
@koriharpoon2476
@koriharpoon2476 5 лет назад
Americans do not have to follow Aussie laws outside of Kangaroo Land.
@PaiRhoRaven
@PaiRhoRaven 5 лет назад
If he put half the work into the game as he does all those posts it would have been done 15 years ago.
@Voxoid
@Voxoid 5 лет назад
Dev rolled 1 for intelligence
@Twittershouldceasetoexist
@Twittershouldceasetoexist 3 года назад
Lol dev rolled 1 for intelligence and the dice broke
@The_Red_Scare
@The_Red_Scare 2 года назад
Nat 1 with a -2 modifier
@FishyRaverist
@FishyRaverist 5 лет назад
That bone density comment holds true. His skull is truly five times thicker than what would be classed as humanely safe.
@AnonEyeMouse
@AnonEyeMouse 5 лет назад
Yeah... that comment made my eyes roll. I was lucky enough to be born BIG. Tall, broad and heavy set. As such I started working security, as a bouncer and security guard. 90% of the job is just to stand there and look imposing. Only about 2% is physical intervention. If a guy wants to hit you... he'll walk up and hit you, quickly. Guys that tell you how tough they are, claim they are a fucking x-man or superhero... they're scared of you. Intimidated. They are like birds that puff up to make themselves look big. That's what I saw when read that comment.
@NobletheSavage
@NobletheSavage 5 лет назад
Another great day on the Tube . Jim leading another charge into the shield wall of Triple A loot boxes and Sid staring at a corpse of another bezerker using the law as a battleaxe swinging over his head before the dev chopping his own hollow head off .
@TrumpLester
@TrumpLester 5 лет назад
Shame to think that I once considered buying this game.
@DevilOfRoses
@DevilOfRoses 5 лет назад
You know, Sid Alpha, you're a monster. This poor developer comes to a duel of intellect and wit utterly unarmed, and you just burn him alive! Shame on you!
@mikealvas
@mikealvas 5 лет назад
DevilofRoses flamethrower vs fists? Ouch, burnt meat
@figjam9530
@figjam9530 5 лет назад
sid alpha = saitama
@dyrball
@dyrball 5 лет назад
I swear to god, it's like those scumbag devs are trying to one-up each other
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 5 лет назад
Too bad they cant try suing each other and defaming each other instead of involving famous, good people. THAT would be far more entertaining.
@dyrball
@dyrball 5 лет назад
@@davecrupel2817 Heh, yeah, I'd watch the shit out of that.
@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00
@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00 5 лет назад
Digital Homicide: "look at what we did to Jim Sterling, haha!" Texas Arcane: "Hold my Foster's"
@lordofsmore9765
@lordofsmore9765 5 лет назад
@@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00 now that's really insulting.... No self respecting Aussie would drink Foster's
@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00
@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00 5 лет назад
@@lordofsmore9765 That's the joke, I'm insulting his taste in beer.
@skyler6175
@skyler6175 5 лет назад
WARNING! WARNING! We are in dev-con 3: total developer meltdown. This is not a drill. Repeat, this is not a drill.
@rakkjack
@rakkjack 5 лет назад
EVERYBODY TO YOUR STATIONS, BE AT THE READY!!!
@khzmusik
@khzmusik 5 лет назад
You may also want to look into the SPEECH Act, which prevents "libel tourism." Basically, even if he did manage to get some kind of defamation judgement against you in Australia, it would not be enforceable in the U.S. without a ruling that it was consistent with First Amendment principles (which in this case is doomed to fail).
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
I did actually, but for some reason when I went to record the video I plum completely forgot to include it.
@Enbious
@Enbious 5 лет назад
Did he say he wants to include your entire subscriber base in a courtroom?! HA! HAH HAH!!! If he does this, nobody’s gonna remember James Romine! Also, I’ll be glad to mess with that moron in a legal setting!
@spongesonic20
@spongesonic20 5 лет назад
Sign me up. I love a free trip to meet sid xD
@hotaru8309
@hotaru8309 5 лет назад
I want to personally address and thank you for this followup Mr. SidAlpha. I was one of those, perhaps naive enough, to comment on your previous video. I explained that I was saddened by the whole thing as I truly believe this game had promise if not for the delays. I then expressed my sympathy toward the developer since his own anger and frustration seemed to wipe away any promise and following he had left. I explained that the whole thing was truly a pity that may have been avoided at some point. Then after expressing my empathy for him, Mr. Cleve attacked me in the comments section. You, Mr.SidAlpha, almost immediately commented beneath his words redirecting him from me. I'm very relieved that you covered this "event", because I couldn't find words for the pit of hate I found myself in. The comments shown in this video are not the worst ones and SidAlpha I appreciate that you intervened for the innocent commenters that were personally targeted by the Dev for opening their mouths in any way at all. I don't think this is a person who wants to be saved or understands that he could've stopped this by behaving more kindly, or at least less viciously.
@n3w2d3str0y0u
@n3w2d3str0y0u 5 лет назад
All your subs into a courtroom? Bruh, can someone pay for my plane ticket, housing, food, good internet(plis) while I stay there?
@onyxtay7246
@onyxtay7246 5 лет назад
I don't think they I think the larger issue (quite literally) is fitting everyone in there. www.hurriyetdailynews.com/biggest-courthouse-to-open-in-january-31981 Looks like the largest courthouse in the world has an estimated 45,000 people go through it daily, which sounds like a lot until you realize that if it was literally just SidAlpha's subscribers the number would almost double to the ~85,000 of us. It you would need one of the top 24 largest stadiums in the world to get all of SidAlpha's subscribers in. (Yeah, I know you could probably have people stand in the middle or whatever, but if we're all forced to show up then the nice thing to do is give everyone a chair to sit in.) www.worldatlas.com/articles/50-largest-stadiums-in-the-world.html
@exudeku
@exudeku 5 лет назад
Wait a sec my sub button is not working...aaand done Right behind you too
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 5 лет назад
Well, I'm from Austria. That would be a bit expensive to "travel" a couple thousand kilometers (8,271 km)
@Sianostrakarenrenren
@Sianostrakarenrenren 5 лет назад
"I don't think you understand how the internet works." -A man with no sense of irony.
@dylanbyers7382
@dylanbyers7382 5 лет назад
Great work Sid, your understanding of defamation laws in Australia is pretty solid! One correction though. About jurisdictions, the requirement in Australia is that the material is published in the jurisdiction it is being taken to court in. Furthermore, A plaintiff can bring proceedings in any state the material was published. When dealing with material published on the internet, our courts tend to take the position that material was published in a jurisdiction if it was downloaded/viewed by anyone in that jurisdiction. If an overseas case was brought in Australia, the court would apply the law of the jurisdiction the publication occurred in, which could have the consequence that someone could *theoretically* be tried in Australia under American law. I should probably mention that I'm only a law student, and that this isn't meant to be legal advice, just a friendly correction. Sorry for the wall of text and thanks for the great content!
@Daeymien
@Daeymien 5 лет назад
Seems to be a bit of flawed logic, if things were ever actually interpreted that way. I can see how it applies between states; allowing that if someone out in the boonies publishes online and you're in Sydney, you can file locally. Internationally, however, applying the same principle would ostensibly mean The New York Times is published separately 6 times in Australia, if at least one person in each state reads the online copy, in addition to its US publication (extreme scenario for the sake of arguement). Mostly off-topic, just my 2c on Aussie legal nuance as outlined.
@dylanbyers7382
@dylanbyers7382 5 лет назад
@@Daeymien I'm not entirely sure because it's been a while since I read up on it, but I'm pretty sure that in a situation like you described the court would apply the laws of the state most relevant to the case, which would most likely be the one where the actual defamation occurred. So if, as you said, the NYT was published (read by at least one person) in six states here, the jurisdiction whose laws would be used would be the one which the defendant allegedly committed defamation in. I think the logic behind it was to be more fair towards the defendant by trying them under the laws they were actually subjected to at the time the alleged defamation occurred. Also, I don't think the court would interpret the NYT as being published 7 separate times, just published in a total of at least 7 different jurisdictions. I'm not sure whether the time it was read changes when it is taken to have been published. I'll see if I can find out. It is very likely the Courts would also break up the US into states when looking at publication if it is relevant I'll have a quick read of the laws a little later and update this if I'm wrong.
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 5 лет назад
Again, I’ll quote this dev as a summary of what this whole situation has become: “The Internet doesn’t work the way you think it does.”
@freedustin
@freedustin 5 лет назад
Nathan Cassidy so the net doesn't run on electricity! FML is a lie!
@bjh2o
@bjh2o 5 лет назад
@@freedustin I'm pretty sure it runs on hot, molten salt.
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 5 лет назад
@@freedustin OF COURSE! Everyone knows it runs on anime, salt, piss and vinegar.
@lordofsmore9765
@lordofsmore9765 5 лет назад
Is it bad that I'm sitting here refreshing RU-vid every few minutes to see if "Crocodile Dundee" starts posting?
@umelgaming3177
@umelgaming3177 5 лет назад
lol i am doing the same
@Gr_ywind
@Gr_ywind 5 лет назад
This dev must have the mental capacity of a 12 year old CoD squeaker. Almost topped the chart for best melt down, but as empty threats mean absolutely shite he doesn't really measure up, must be a common occurrence.
@CringePeddler
@CringePeddler 5 лет назад
then why are you, sidalpha, and the rest of his community posting videos making fun of someone with a mental illness? that is rather disgusting, tbqh.
@antoniojosetorrente559
@antoniojosetorrente559 5 лет назад
It's one of his friends!! They are here! I'm talking about roverud.
@sfsefs4895
@sfsefs4895 5 лет назад
As a game developer ~ {haven't released any games yet but meh..} these clowns like Texas Arcade {or whatever he wants to call himself} do give me a good example of what not to do.
@freakboy220
@freakboy220 5 лет назад
Pretty sure I saw one comment saying he intended to include all of Sid's subscribers to his 'lawsuit' He intends to try and include all 85K or so of us? Good luck, not all of us live in the US.
@CommanderWiggins
@CommanderWiggins 5 лет назад
freakboy220 He's going to need a big ass courthouse.
@drakan4769
@drakan4769 5 лет назад
if he wants to pay for my trip to the US, be my guest. business class please
@gusd913
@gusd913 5 лет назад
"Must be why my bone density is five time that of any ordinary person" LMAO he IS thick-headed.
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 5 лет назад
He's literaly calling himself a bonehead hahahaha
@JaxMerrick
@JaxMerrick 5 лет назад
Whatever happened to creators going "I've got a fair bit of criticism, lemme read through it... Yep, I fucked up. I'll try better next time, armed with this new knowledge." Developers, this is not supposed to be a "Who can be a bigger vitriolic cunt" competition. Learn from mistakes, accept them and move forward.
@9liveslie-cat-lie129
@9liveslie-cat-lie129 5 лет назад
After seeing this you need to create a hall of shame at the end of the year you can induct one two new devs into the hall
@MaskedGEEK
@MaskedGEEK 5 лет назад
Actually, that's a REALLY good idea. Sid could set up a Strawpoll or iCard poll for his viewers to vote on, though I feel Strawpoll is better if you can have more than 4 options.
@jonathonmcdonald8414
@jonathonmcdonald8414 5 лет назад
I have seen games made in 48 hours on game jolt with better gameplay and storytelling.
@Damonnanashi
@Damonnanashi 5 лет назад
So he bitches about e-begging and patreon, but didnt he do like 3 Indiegogo campaigns for this one project?
@Shuffleblade
@Shuffleblade 5 лет назад
The sad part is how he claims he knows how the internet works, "posts lots of vitriolic borderline slanderous comments".... Deletes them and thinks everything is "O.K". Oh my sweet summer child xD
@FlamingNinja
@FlamingNinja 5 лет назад
Once you say it, you can’t take it back. Just like in real life.
@zephyfoxy
@zephyfoxy 5 лет назад
Wait, what? 20 years? It took him 20 years to make that ugly, boring looking game? How the hell can he have an ego about the game when it took him 20 years to make something that looks so bad.
@lionocyborg6030
@lionocyborg6030 5 лет назад
His game looks like a shitty Ultima Underworld clone. There's always room to improve it but I don't think anyone will want to give him the chance now after what he's done. I'm certainly not going to buy it.
@jablazerxii1355
@jablazerxii1355 4 года назад
As I've been going through Sid's videos I've noticed a pattern whenever he provides examples of a dev going on a rampage of insults: Every time, had I not known better and had the insults been directed at me, I genuinely would have mistaken all of them for children no older than nine. I'm not sure whether to be concerned, disappointed, or both.
@notatrollll
@notatrollll 3 года назад
In this case, this child apparently made tons of fake accounts to defend himself and insult sid on these videos.
@CyberHangman
@CyberHangman 5 лет назад
Here's another person on the Internet talking shit online, and only doing shit online, as it's easy online to hide behind web services and aliases. I know of one particular case where a developer actually tried to "do shit" IRL to a critic - that was that loser with Digital Homicide that tried to sue "Jim Fucking Sterling Son". Anybody who followed that story knows how it turned out
@rasto4816
@rasto4816 5 лет назад
Hi Sid, you must understand that the lawsuit is absolutely coming.... In 20 years or so when this excuse of a man learns to email :D keep up the good work brother and please keep us posted.
@a-blivvy-yus
@a-blivvy-yus 5 лет назад
It took him 20 years to complete a game that looked like it would have taken 6 months for anyone else to develop in the '90s. And game dev is his actual job. Given how likely he is to be as skilled a lawyer as he is a game developer, I think it's probably safe to add another 0 on the end of that estimate.
@sebastianmuller7013
@sebastianmuller7013 5 лет назад
also when people copy and paste what they have said multiple times you know they are is trying to hide something or deflect
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
Generally, yeah.
@ChristopherWeaver1
@ChristopherWeaver1 5 лет назад
The dude keeps doing it and hes gonna do it again
@frui424
@frui424 5 лет назад
Lol maybe the developer should look up digital homicide and really consider if he should follow through with his empty threat
@sonofdrjekyll
@sonofdrjekyll 5 лет назад
(evil laughter) yes. break thyself against thy own BS . id donate to the sid law fund
@TrollinGear
@TrollinGear 5 лет назад
Honestly with the way games and developers are acting now a days, it's like they want the gaming industry to die. It almost happened once already. It's sad that these gaming companies, triple A and indy, are willing to treat their customer base like shit and than expect them to buy and enjoy the next game they release. Bad business practices and models will only get you so far. Its like everyone had a dose of butthurt injected into them at birth. Keep it up Sid. I am definitely gonna return to this channel. I admire people like you willing to stand up against this disgusting and repulsive paths these devs have taken.
@YahyaFalcon
@YahyaFalcon 5 лет назад
Most indie devs aren't like this, this guy is just part of a small minority, if every indie dev acted like this no one would give a shit about indie games, don't worry, a second crash is unlikely to happen, the only reason it happened was because the VG industry was young, now that it's more established the likelihood of a second crash happening is equal to the likelihood of EA making a good game.
@BeingofEvil
@BeingofEvil 5 лет назад
ill rathaer have it die altogether and enjoy some old quality games in peace, such as grimoire.
@bjh2o
@bjh2o 5 лет назад
The fact that the developer claiming "defamation" and "slander" is the author of comments like those in just about every forum he uses is the greatest example of irony that I have witnessed in a long time.
@JKC40
@JKC40 5 лет назад
he's going to name all of us in a class action suit? i don't think class action suit means what he thinks it means
@matthewshiers9038
@matthewshiers9038 5 лет назад
Maybe he thinks "class-action lawsuit" means suing the entire class for the actions of a vocal minority?
@JKC40
@JKC40 5 лет назад
@@matthewshiers9038 or something?
@matthewshiers9038
@matthewshiers9038 5 лет назад
@@JKC40 yeah, sure. tbh I have no clue what's going through this dude's head.
@Gitami
@Gitami 5 лет назад
He clearly has no idea how the internet works: it doesn't work as he think it does.
@50chickens50
@50chickens50 5 лет назад
Just wait for him to learn about the Streisand effect firsthand
@TheRealKoltoroc
@TheRealKoltoroc 5 лет назад
You really attract loonie devs like a flame attracts moths.
@itaybron
@itaybron 5 лет назад
That's how you know he made it big
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
Haven't made it big yet. I still have my day job.
@Eagles-jv5fz
@Eagles-jv5fz 5 лет назад
@@SidAlpha Nah that's just called integrity.
@FlamingNinja
@FlamingNinja 5 лет назад
Certainly adds some extra entertainment, at the cost of the ‘other guy’s’ public standing.
@nordicberserk
@nordicberserk 5 лет назад
one of the comments you put on screen mentioned the "soy milk industry". I see someone has been to 4chan a time or ten
@pcport2698
@pcport2698 5 лет назад
Or fifty.
@annelisemeier283
@annelisemeier283 5 лет назад
Are you implying that is a bad thing?
@kyaatt
@kyaatt 5 лет назад
A vitriolic part of me hopes that this “developer” is actually sued over his substantial libelous statements and gets to see for himself, firsthand, just how the world works.
@namkha209
@namkha209 5 лет назад
Once again, as I said before: HE HIDES BEHINDS METUHL BAWKSES, TEH COWARDS, TEH FEWL! WE...*weeze*...SHALL TAEK AWAE... HIS METUHL BAWKSES.
@Silver-Tower
@Silver-Tower 5 лет назад
Thank you, I love me some Dawn of War.
@gibuswagen7729
@gibuswagen7729 5 лет назад
EVUN EN DETH AI STELL SERF ON TE*long wheeze* ENTHHERNET
@Jaghatai_Kahn
@Jaghatai_Kahn 5 лет назад
Sending you some rhinos, use them well.
@namkha209
@namkha209 5 лет назад
@@Jaghatai_Kahn M-My Lord! These are too faaaaaaaeeeeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSS-
@flamewolfscout3978
@flamewolfscout3978 5 лет назад
What the fuck is going on here?? XDDDDDDDD
@metropod
@metropod 5 лет назад
One thing you left out is even if he did sue you in Australia, he’d have no way to enforce the ruling due to the SPEECH Act.
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
Oh yep I actually DID forget to mention that. I even read up on the SPEECH act too....
@Quxxy
@Quxxy 5 лет назад
As an Australian, I'm sorely tempted to try reading those comments in the most overwrought strine I can muster... but I don't think I could keep a straight face. This person is like a wiki page listing every derogatory cliche about right-wingers somehow gained sentience and started posting to the internet. I genuinely don't know whether to laugh or cry.
@Nukestarmaster
@Nukestarmaster 5 лет назад
He's like a walking strawman argument (I was going to say sentient strawman argument but then I realized that's debatable).
@matthewshiers9038
@matthewshiers9038 5 лет назад
Imagine if he'd put that much time and effort into actually working on the game. ...you have permission to cry.
@creepierflame10
@creepierflame10 5 лет назад
Ooh we can sue people if they talk bad about our garbage game? Check out this totally 100% badass game I made in PowerPoint
@B.A.Killington
@B.A.Killington 5 лет назад
In the last video I said I had this game on my steam wishlist because it wasn't worth $40. Well the price must have dropped because it is $20 now..After this I'm not sure it would be worth it to support a developer like this even if he PAID me to play this. So, I'm removing it. I wouldn't be surprised if this game was taken off of steam soon anyway based on how this developer treats other humans, especially customers/potential customers.
@dubspool
@dubspool 5 лет назад
I’ll go see if there’s enough popcorn
@lorcan0c
@lorcan0c 5 лет назад
Least we know there's more than enough salt for it.
@martinblank1484
@martinblank1484 5 лет назад
I suggest we go halfsies on a 5kg bucket at Costco....this is going to get good.
@metropod
@metropod 5 лет назад
I’m saving all mine, Mystery Science Theater 3000’s new season is up on Netflix late tonight.
@HAZARDOUS88
@HAZARDOUS88 5 лет назад
I'd hate for it to happen to you, but if it does escalate to legal action, he probably won't have a good time.
@Vanitas42
@Vanitas42 5 лет назад
*queues Megalovania*
@lordofsmore9765
@lordofsmore9765 5 лет назад
@@Vanitas42 goddamn it... I just snorted my beer.
@spongesonic20
@spongesonic20 5 лет назад
@@Vanitas42 God damn it. XD
@TheOvadex
@TheOvadex 5 лет назад
This dev needs to get more fiber in their diet. It's not good to take 20 years to take a shit.
@xlawxc
@xlawxc 5 лет назад
*dials 911 Me: I’d like to report a murder. *later at autopsy Detective: It appears he was a... burn victim.
@robertrosenthal7264
@robertrosenthal7264 5 лет назад
The "turning animations" are HORRIBLE!, even by 1990s standards.
@perpetualsystems
@perpetualsystems 5 лет назад
It's what happens when you develop a 2.5D RPG. Alone. As your very first game.
@elevown
@elevown 5 лет назад
Yup - I much proffer how dungeon master and beholder etc games did it - which is even simpler - to that weird sliding from side to side - it's VERY disorienting, to the point i cant even tell which way I turned from the visuals. (Ive seen other cheap crappy DM knocks do it back in the day)
@KazumiKiguma
@KazumiKiguma 5 лет назад
@@perpetualsystems *For 20 years*, don't forget that part.
@ravenwolfblazing
@ravenwolfblazing 5 лет назад
Looking this guy up just leads to a murky mess of bat shit conspiracy ideas. He apparently is an American who moved to Australia. Which would explain the American phrase gin up, which originated in America in the 1800s and is mostly used by the mid west and southerners. I don't think Sid has to worry much about a lawsuit from this guy. He seems to be a more keyboard fighting, get off my lawn type with no bite. Keep being awesome Sid, you've been the highlight of my crappy week.
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
Worried? Hell, I was looking FORWARD to it.
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
And sorry to hear you had a crappy week. I hope it gets better for you.
@ravenwolfblazing
@ravenwolfblazing 5 лет назад
@@SidAlpha Spent the last ten minutes laughing my ass off at this whole thing so it is already better! I am currently laughing at the archives of what was once his blog before it was removed and the stuff written there. Been a while since I took a trip down conspiracy lane.
@Skyztamer
@Skyztamer 5 лет назад
@@SidAlpha May as well make an example of someone who wants to push their luck in trying to get some gold dropped into the abyss that they've sunk themself into. Something seems off to me though. Are we sure this Texas Arcane guy is the real deal? I know man children exist since I work in retail and have to deal with customers; but his statements seem... too devoid of sense, logic and reason. Unless he realized he had nothing left to lose with his game's failure and is actually playing us all and we fell for his act. Idk 😕
@CastorGaming
@CastorGaming 5 лет назад
As somebody who deals with depression on a daily basis, I've noticed a disturbing trend with a lot of these "Dirty Devs". Now, often when my depression is at full throttle, I have been known to do some pretty shitty things and I feel pretty bad about it. I wonder if many of these "Dirty Devs" might have issues with anxiety or depression, brought about by stepping into the public space as a game developer, and simply lack the knowledge to deal with it in a healthy way. As with many of my own past actions, I am not saying that it makes it acceptable for them to act as such. Explaining why something is the way it is, does not vindicate the action.
@inthefade
@inthefade 5 лет назад
Good point.
@a-blivvy-yus
@a-blivvy-yus 5 лет назад
"Mentally ill" is definitely a potential explanation, but like you said, not a justification for the behaviour. It does make for more room to consider pity and maybe an offer of help over immediately jumping to the "lol what an asshole" position (although that position is still somewhat valid too).
@RiddleAnim
@RiddleAnim 5 лет назад
Good Lord,this guy is very much deserving of the old SidAlpha label of "Pile of tuberculotic sputum." Those screencapped comments... Is this man an adult? Is this man even sapient? His behaviour suggests the negative,on both counts.
@joeyp.4375
@joeyp.4375 5 лет назад
Sapient but a child who spent 20 years scamming and making a very poor game
@vesper7312
@vesper7312 5 лет назад
"FOCUS. FOCUS, Chicken neck" Can this be a tshirt? If someone asks for context you just call them a Ginger Bottlespin.
@Gorbag100
@Gorbag100 5 лет назад
front text of the t-shirt "FOCUS. FOCUS, Chicken neck" and backside text "Ginger Bottlespin" ... yeah that sounds like a great t-shirt :D
@Dymlostahn
@Dymlostahn 5 лет назад
I had the video going on in the background and when you said "imputation" I thought you said "amputation" and was VERY confused about how defamation was handled down in Australia...
@SmigGames
@SmigGames 5 лет назад
That's how they do things in a prison colony.
@donniequalls9693
@donniequalls9693 5 лет назад
"I don't think the internet works the way this dev thinks it does." ...
@personmcperson4440
@personmcperson4440 5 лет назад
If you're catching flak, you're over the target.
@Marsmuncher
@Marsmuncher 5 лет назад
That was one of the most glorious public melt downs I've ever had the fortune/misfortune of witnessing.
@obsidiansands
@obsidiansands 5 лет назад
It's like watching a deliberate train wreck caused by the idiot driver. The fact that he made threats of a physical nature, then that already smacks of criminal intent. Submitting the data you've collected to the police would already put him on notice. Simply sharing the data with his LOCAL authorities would also put him on notice in his OWN neck of the woods. As far as I know, threats of bodily harm are treated and scrutinized with the kind of severity it implies because there were already cases where some unhinged people have followed through with said threats without giving a fuck to international laws/juristiction. That cause is warrant enough for a lawsuit of your own and has the potential to bury him if followed through since he kept posting those threats more than once. Whatever excuse he will give later on doesn't diminish the fact he literally meant them at the moment of posting.
@The_Keeper
@The_Keeper 5 лет назад
A Sheppard - Another Alt account of Cleve. For all his bluster and noise, this dude is all thunder, and no lightning... I wonder if that is why he gets so angry; He can't get it up anymore, and tries desperately to convince the world that he hasn't become a decrepit old hermit that screams nonsensical obscenities at strangers.
@LazyGamerPerson
@LazyGamerPerson 5 лет назад
Old man yells at cloud.
@spongesonic20
@spongesonic20 5 лет назад
@@LazyGamerPerson BRUH
@IFDFAdmiralY11
@IFDFAdmiralY11 5 лет назад
I'm still confused on what a Ginger Bottlespin actually is, but I'm tempted to make something on Urban Dictionary, if it isn't there already.
@captainfantastic7643
@captainfantastic7643 5 лет назад
Long, drawn out, served cold, civil brutality. Bravo Sid.
@Eguzky
@Eguzky 4 года назад
Every time I need to remind myself of what not to do when I finally learn enough to publish a game, I come back to this vid and read the dirty dev in the comment section. :P
@chrisxd146
@chrisxd146 5 лет назад
Digital Homicide 2.0
@notatrollll
@notatrollll 3 года назад
With a 12 person fan club/cult and more physical threats/mindless psychotic episodes
@JordyValentine
@JordyValentine 5 лет назад
So regarding the Australian laws, he still doesn't have a case. If it did go all the way to court a judge would see it as a random comment. It was not damaging, the only reason the developers found it in the first place was likely searching for his own name and game.
@ragzaugustus
@ragzaugustus 5 лет назад
Isn't there always a rule that basically goes "it isn't defamation, if it's true."
@PartOfTheGame
@PartOfTheGame 5 лет назад
Got my shirt ordered and I'll be sending a tweet showing my love of being part of the Toxic Consumer Advocacy. Cheers Sid. And thank you for always following through and owning up to any and all videos you make. Pride in your work is very apparent. I'm glad your moral code is still right where your position needs it to be. You are the voice of thousands. And as I said before, unless you give up your own morals and code, I'm okay with you being my public voice of disapproval, or approval as the case may be, of all things video games.
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
Right on! Thank you for saying so!
@bartocblackwell3391
@bartocblackwell3391 5 лет назад
Saw the posts on the original video. Almost laughed myself into an asthma attack. Some folks just can't get their head out of their ass and consequently their whole view of reality is shit. Keep up the good work Sid.
@Rhyas9
@Rhyas9 5 лет назад
My sympathy flies out the window when you dox someone to prove your point, whatever your point is.
@HelloChief117
@HelloChief117 5 лет назад
This is oddly teaching me things about laws in a fun way. I didn't think that was possible.
@colajunkie13
@colajunkie13 5 лет назад
Go watch Leonard French! The best youtube lawyer to date ;)
@SidAlpha
@SidAlpha 5 лет назад
Leonard IS pretty great!
@YukoValis
@YukoValis 5 лет назад
When someone says good or bad form, anyone else picture Captain Hook from the Robin williams Hook movie?
@deluxeloy
@deluxeloy 5 лет назад
Oof, I thought he was just a scumbag, cold-hearted and with a plan to salvage some self-gain from this all... Reading what he actually wrote to you gives me the image of someone who is not only single-mindedly self-centered, but also violently enthusiastic about letting anger guide his actions. I hope he can get some help once he stops tearing himself apart while trying to tear down everything else.
@drakan4769
@drakan4769 5 лет назад
Well, I don't know how it turned out afterwards, but the most obvious parallel to this is what happened with alex mauer, and I think that debacle did end with her receiving psychiatric attention, so here's hoping this poor man can also get the help he so clearly needs. And trust me, I'm fully aware of how much this dude would dread being compared to her (if he reads this he'd probably go ballistic on me just for using the term "her")
@koalameat9523
@koalameat9523 5 лет назад
That game looks like it came straight out of the stone age , its graphics are so basic that a 56k dial up modem could run it
@gc6096
@gc6096 5 лет назад
Koala Meat MLWB Ikr?
@BeingofEvil
@BeingofEvil 5 лет назад
better stone age than mainstream media.
@BeingofEvil
@BeingofEvil 5 лет назад
@John Marston and i don't play it
@BeingofEvil
@BeingofEvil 5 лет назад
@Hunter and i can live with it
@Veerorith
@Veerorith 5 лет назад
These sort of people spend a lot of time threatening lawsuits and not filing anything.
@chrisgibson6061
@chrisgibson6061 5 лет назад
Sid, with research and effort like this I imagine someday you'll be able to quit your day job. You slayed it man
@trh4982
@trh4982 5 лет назад
Just google Cleveland Mark Blackmore. If Derek Smart was bad. This guy is 20x worse.
@Jorendo
@Jorendo 5 лет назад
Can't these people like....go to a Shrink or something? Seriousely, what is up with SO MANY DEVELOPERS AT THE INDY SCENE that have such a fucked up mind? That they need to threaten people cause their game gets a bad review. Seriousely, go see a Shrink, it's not something to be ashamed off. If you think you should threaten people with violence cause they don't like the thing you made, you are messed up in the head and need help before you do something very stupid.
@Bittboy
@Bittboy 5 лет назад
No point in going if you're convinced nothing is wrong with you.
@Jorendo
@Jorendo 5 лет назад
@@Bittboy True, but that is the first step of improvement. To bad these people don't want to see that. It could really help them out. It's no good for anyone to walk around like that trough life.
@DamnedSilly
@DamnedSilly 5 лет назад
I suppose you're going to find more people like this guy on the indy scene -because- they can't take criticism or get along with other people. Sort of like musicians who only work solo because they can't get along with a band.
@Jorendo
@Jorendo 5 лет назад
@Cristofer Wolz-Romberger True, still i don't mean to diss these people. If they read this, i do hope they will look at themselves, look at their behavior and know that it isn't normal and that they need help, or quit the business. If you can't take criticism...then you have no business what so ever in any field where people buy your product. I was a movie editor, for a media company, so i know how it is that people judge your work. In college they always hammered down on us how to deal with such criticism. Maybe it helps if these indy devs follow some sort of course atleast in how to deal with it. You need to listen to what people say, see if its trashing or constructive. If they just trash you product without mentioning what exactly is wrong and how they think it could improve, then ignore it, screw them, if they just say "It's fucking shit" then don't bother carring about it cause its a pointless comment. If they say "It sucks, cause this and that isn't working" then you know that something is wrong and you can check if it works right or not and fix it. But really, if you can't criticism, don't expose yourself too it. If you have a product for sale on the internet, well goodluck cause people tend to be very cruel in saying how much it sucks if they feel ripped off. They also don't seem to learn, maybe they are unable too, but by now there are so many examples. Surely someone who makes games knows of these examples. They must know about the whole Digital homicide thing with Jim Sterling, or other examples where threatening with going to court or deaththreats has always backfired. So i really don't understand these people and their thinking, and i doubt they even know it themselves. Yeah it's true, many artists are having social issues, but come on, wake up if you read this, go see a shrink. It's nothing to be ashamed off and you will feel better believe me.
@DLOFT002
@DLOFT002 5 лет назад
Thanks for the update. If this guy does anything else that is this batshit crazy please give us a third video.
@mordokch
@mordokch 5 лет назад
This guy's a real bell end and no mistake lol
@Liyern
@Liyern 5 лет назад
Oh boy, Digital Homicide 2.0
@GAMEPRODELTA
@GAMEPRODELTA 5 лет назад
Please, this idiot isn't even worth enough of the popcorn on earth.
@joelggundam
@joelggundam 5 лет назад
More like Digital Homicide -2.0
@GAMEPRODELTA
@GAMEPRODELTA 5 лет назад
@@joelggundam change the decimal to a comma and add twenty zeros.
@joelggundam
@joelggundam 5 лет назад
That would probably make my RU-vid app crash. lol
@Andulvar
@Andulvar 5 лет назад
Oh my sweet summer child, Cleve here has a history online nearly as old as his game. You should read what he thinks about console games.
@xbass97x
@xbass97x 5 лет назад
I'd rather be a receptionist at a strap on testing lab than be a Dev that took 20 yrs to make a game that isn't even good.
@trh4982
@trh4982 5 лет назад
I don't know. Sounds kind of ruff. Doesn't matter though. Everyone here will be doing that job, according to that Dev.
@MrNikkusama
@MrNikkusama 5 лет назад
The thing is I don't think he fully understands the word reception. It's not like the products are regularly used on the receptionist. In fact, it could be a cushy gig based on the clientele that would use such a product.
@ndaemon1718
@ndaemon1718 5 лет назад
@@MrNikkusama word! . id love to be the receptionist at the strapon lab lol. bet you they get discounted products to boot! :)
@trh4982
@trh4982 5 лет назад
@Jeszebel black Maybe there are Pro's after all.
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