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Disassembly of the fake mini VCI cable 

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A quick look at what components go into a cheap Chinese knock-off OBD cable.
This is a knock-off of the XHorse Mini-VCI cable, using the J2534 protocol.
As J2534 is a serial protocol, the front-end of the device is a USB serial-port (UART) emulator; in this case the market-leader FTDI FT232R. The core is an ARM7 60 MHz microcontroller from NXP, with a pair of automotive bus drivers for interfacing with the vehicle electronics.

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Комментарии : 57   
@ameenbasim8012
@ameenbasim8012 8 лет назад
what is the best types of vci cable that can be work on different types of automotive system???
@naeem_666
@naeem_666 2 года назад
what's the difference between the minivci ft232rq and minivci ft232rl
@fenugrec5697
@fenugrec5697 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing this, I was curious to see if there was a J1850 transceiver inside. Do you remember what NXP mcu they use ?
@r3ndszergazda
@r3ndszergazda 6 лет назад
Is there a way to use this cable as a standard OBD2 cable?
@roflex2
@roflex2 8 лет назад
The SetProgrammingVoltage command and ReadVoltage simply return a bogus value. It appears it can't apply or read a voltage from the OBD pins. Anyone know if the real one can do this?
@sd906238
@sd906238 7 лет назад
So are the fakes that you buy from China made in the same factory in China as the ones that the dealer sell/use or the XHorse ones?
@ArthurSwails
@ArthurSwails 10 лет назад
Does this mean it wont work reliably with anyone, or just some people have had trouble with it? Also if I try to reflash, does it brick your ecu if a problem happens or does it just not even start the reflash process?
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 12 лет назад
Its construction looks nice, i wonder if that controller emulates the more compatable Elm327 i think, the elm was a more expensive device in its day. looks like there is a header on the pcb for rs232 or more likely rs432 serial use, so the data rate is not great.
@ThePsycheGr
@ThePsycheGr 10 лет назад
Hi, i have a cable that looks like yours except that it is black. Is there a way to come in contact with you for some cable pictures and the drivers that you use with that?
@ArthurSwails
@ArthurSwails 10 лет назад
You say it does the job as long as it isn't complicated. Can you elaborate on this? Will it show VVT-i info? I am wanting one of these to datalog an Aristo VVTi 2jzgte engine. I'm not sure if it'll work.
@beachbummm69
@beachbummm69 9 лет назад
$26.00 on amazon compared to $100 at the Toyota dealer each time you have a problem..I bought mine to reprogram key fobs on a prius..the dealers told me they would not do it on used fobs and the local locksmith said $75 each, its paid for itself 7 times over on the first repair, ty china!
@beachbummm69
@beachbummm69 9 лет назад
beachbummm69 UPDATE.. WARNING. the software is counterfeit and full of viruses. I just spent 5 hours formatting my laptop after AVG found the viruses but could not remove it all...god knows what its doing to the computer in the cars...I got mine off amazon but they sell this on all auction websites
@jehminjung89
@jehminjung89 7 лет назад
what country did it ship from and what version of tis ? how did you program a used key ? as mine keeps rejecting me. I either need a pin code and reset ecu method or add individually but it won't allow me on on a used fob. fcc Id matching
@eman0828
@eman0828 7 лет назад
Do realize these Chinese knock cables can really fuck up and brick the ECU and computer control modules. They are usually of lower quality. You get what you pay for, when it comes to pirated junk. I advise to purchase the real thing from Drew Technologies. Its only $495 compared to the full kit that will run you about $5,799 that comes with the toughbook laptop from techinfo.toyota.com.
@eman0828
@eman0828 7 лет назад
Also you can't program immobilizers as you have to be a registered member of NASTF (National Automotive Security Task Force). Its only available for Locksmith or qualify service technician professionals with security credentials. www.nastf.org
@ifell3
@ifell3 5 лет назад
Is this because AVG was picking up teamviewer or something?
@KAzik10001
@KAzik10001 8 лет назад
and of-course its missing AU5780 chip, which handles VPW protocol for older toyota/lexus vehicles. Yet every single seller claims their cable handles J1850 VPW
@atoyo19
@atoyo19 8 лет назад
very useful
@ChumpusRex
@ChumpusRex 10 лет назад
Yes. It will display and log VVT-I, D4, D4D and other engine parameters. It will not reliably allow you to customise settings or reflash the ECU.
@blackz06
@blackz06 4 года назад
Is there a way to test the cables? With some software and a DMM or oscilloscope? Or whatever is needed...
@TheYoungBoaty
@TheYoungBoaty Год назад
What’s the difference between FT232RL and FT232RQ, on Aliexpress, there are also firmware 1.4, 1.41 and 1.5, I have never seen 2.0 but they may cost more but eventually probably the same. Those seemed to work with V13 fine even on windows 11 64bit with modifications or 64 bit driver that was reported as virus. the same. Those seemed to work with V13 fine even on windows 11 64bit with modifications or 64 bit driver that was reported as virus.
@honorbean2973
@honorbean2973 7 месяцев назад
The difference is the chip package. FT232RL uses a surface mount L-shaped 28-pin SSOP chip package. FT232RQ uses a 32-pin QFN pin package. Both chips do the same thing.
@lewisheilig3623
@lewisheilig3623 5 лет назад
Nice video, thanks. As for the original XHorse cable, this seems to come in 2 versions, the newer V2.0.4 and the older V1.4.1 which does not work with as many Toyota cars. Genuine XHorse V2.0.4 cables have disappeared from the market with a few exceptions. The V1.4.1 and their fake copies are still widely available. If a car owner is able to acquire a V2.0.4 cable as well as a recent TechStream software download (which may in the worst case contain viruses), then if this owner succeeds in configuring the software on for example a 32 bit XP computer, (1) how likely is the cable to damage the car electronics due to an unlikely failure in the cable's circuit board? and (2) how likely is the TechStream software to partially or fully corrupt the car's ECU due to an intentional or accidental bug introduced into the downloaded software? and (3) is it possible that the ECU has a log file built into its EEPROM that would record different activities initiated by all authorized and unauthorized user of TechStream? In my situation I only want to register my new chip key, nothing else.
@ChumpusRex
@ChumpusRex 5 лет назад
With a proper cable, I don't see that there would be much risk with corrupting or damaging the ECU. Be careful with the customisation options, as they don't always work and may only work on specific ECU types. I don't think there is a log file kept.
@lewisheilig3623
@lewisheilig3623 5 лет назад
Thanks for your comments. I lost one of my car keys a few days ago, and since have been surfing the internet looking for info about Mini-VCI cables and the TechStream software. I have worked with electronic circuits since 50 years and with machine language computer programs during 30 years, so I should be able to relate to the inherent risks of something going wrong, either with the software or the hardware. Given that the world is full of high and low cost products that plug into the car's OBD2 socket, I conclude that the chances of a genuine, but faulty XHorse cable frying the car's electronics are very low. So that leaves the TechStream software as a potential source of harm. Clearly TechStream is a package developed by Toyota to sell under license to auto technicians around the world. It is not surprising that the price tag would be in the thousands of dollars and not surprising that someone could get their hands on an original copy and find a way to circumvent the requirement to purchase an activation key by patching the program code before offering it in a bundle with the cable What is hard to measure is the probability that the pirated TechStream software would contain additional toxic code introduced to achieve some undeserved financial or ideological gain (identity theft / ransomware / botnet). While it is easy to backup or clone one's hard drive in order to restore to one's standalone computer if ever needed, there does not seem to be an easy way to backup/restore the car's ECU data using a trusted tool before allowing pirated software to take control of the bus. Unless one would use this cable often or with many cars, for me it is hard to justify the purchase of this cable and bundled software for a once in a lifetime use in order to save $50 at the locksmith if the purchase comes with a minuscule, but not zero, risk of causing hundreds of dollars of damage to the ECU. Nevertheless, the teckie in me would love nothing more than to buy the cable and plug it in and see what happens.
@uawsux
@uawsux 4 года назад
Yes that OBD2 connector USB is very unstable takes a long time many restart your computer many re installations to make sure it works if your driver is not connected correctly you will not have certain pieces parts of your software the problem is in the driver not in the software or the part
@ChumpusRex
@ChumpusRex 12 лет назад
Possibly. But the ELM is very basic. It's basically, a low-end 8-bit microcontroller (one of the PIC16 series), which provides basic OBD-II functionality. This is fine for the most basic engine/emission diagnostics that are mandated by regulatory agencies, but useless for the more sophisticated OEM software for analysing proprietary components, or for changing vehicle configuration. The VCI cable was designed to support various Japanese manufacturers proprietary software and ECU flashing.
@wivaldibb5021
@wivaldibb5021 5 лет назад
blog.xhorsevvdi.com/what-is-difference-of-xhorse-mini-vci-and-copy-mini-vci-toyota/
@michaelallen1432
@michaelallen1432 10 лет назад
So, the microcontroller they used does not have enough memory for the release firmware. So if you wanted to flash it with the real firmware, why not just replace that CPU with one that has more memory. The process is not hard. You CAREFULLY cut the leads to the original chip. You have to take your time so as not to damage the board. I like to put a razor blade vertical along a side, just a bit away from the side of the chip, then run a bead of solder along the leads. I can then use a very sharp xacto knife, with very LITTLE pressure. It makes a scratch. Keep repeating with minimal pressure until you cut through. The bead of solder bonds the pins together and prevents the cutting from tearing a pad off the board. The light pressure and related cuts are controllable so you don't slip and cut the board. Repeat on all four sides, then deolder the pins carefully with solder wivk. The line up the new chip at opposite corners. Tack one corner down. Adjust as necessary. Tack the other corner down with a bit of solder. Then observe with a magnifier or microscope to be sure the pins on all four sides are lined up. Then run a bead of solder along each side. Next wick the solder off each side. Finally, inspect for solder bridges with a magnifier. If you find one, run another bead, and wick it off. When its perfect,clean the flux off with IPA and your ready to go. Programming is another matter, you will need to give it its initial flash.but the data sheet should point in the right direction.
@taimoourhassan1395
@taimoourhassan1395 6 лет назад
i am new subscribeber here and you tell me that you show this teahstearm is fake i m using the same have what kind of major fact of the fake this and what kind of probelms kindly you know me thanku
@malikulamin9948
@malikulamin9948 5 лет назад
Everything made in china now, and in china there's no copyright so theres no suchthing as fake item...the main question can it work?.
@Lcfiend
@Lcfiend 9 лет назад
Fake or not but it works fine with techstream
@phunkeelove1
@phunkeelove1 6 лет назад
no it doesnt, the fakes are stuck in initialization mode which works fine for MOST techstream functions until you have to actually write to the ECU such as a TPMS reprogramming
@johnseal6103
@johnseal6103 10 лет назад
why do you call it a fake? Looks like it works.
@ChumpusRex
@ChumpusRex 10 лет назад
The Mini VCI" cable was developed by a company called Xhorse. This is a copy cable which uses a leaked alpha fimware version. It works, but is very buggy, and cannot be updated to the official firmware because the CPU doesn't have enough flash memory for the real firmware. The sales of the fake cables so far out numbered sales of the "real" cable, that xhorse had to abandon all support for the mini-vci, because they were flooded with technical support calls from people who had bought fakes.
@valentinedpg
@valentinedpg 8 лет назад
+ChumpusRex lol shouldn't take that opportunity to sell them the real off directly after brief explanation?
@javaidmalik1
@javaidmalik1 5 лет назад
This cable works with most diagnosis software Techstream , hds, ihds,odis ,elisawin
@besmirmeta3742
@besmirmeta3742 5 лет назад
does this cable support latest i-hds software,and olso is it posible to erase fault codes with it
@javaidmalik1
@javaidmalik1 5 лет назад
@@besmirmeta3742 yes this cable called Mvci by xhorse this is working with most of them ids hds tis tip vida also I use with sdd and lrh and if you need more help let me Know
@jorgeescobar1636
@jorgeescobar1636 3 года назад
This cable support j2534 hds honda?
@mdjaforsikder3234
@mdjaforsikder3234 2 года назад
Haw mach cabol brather
@user-hr5dc4ly3q
@user-hr5dc4ly3q 9 месяцев назад
This is very slow device
@shifty2755
@shifty2755 6 лет назад
You don't need to open it. The case is transparent. Just sayin'. Might save you some time on the next video. you can thank me later.......
@blackz06
@blackz06 4 года назад
I bet you can't clearly see through mine.And read numbers on the chips lol :)
@michaelallen1432
@michaelallen1432 10 лет назад
So, the microcontroller they used does not have enough memory for the release firmware. So if you wanted to flash it with the real firmware, why not just replace that CPU with one that has more memory. The process is not hard. You CAREFULLY cut the leads to the original chip. You have to take your time so as not to damage the board. I like to put a razor blade vertical along a side, just a bit away from the side of the chip, then run a bead of solder along the leads. I can then use a very sharp xacto knife, with very LITTLE pressure. It makes a scratch. Keep repeating with minimal pressure until you cut through. The bead of solder bonds the pins together and prevents the cutting from tearing a pad off the board. The light pressure and related cuts are controllable so you don't slip and cut the board. Repeat on all four sides, then deolder the pins carefully with solder wivk. The line up the new chip at opposite corners. Tack one corner down. Adjust as necessary. Tack the other corner down with a bit of solder. Then observe with a magnifier or microscope to be sure the pins on all four sides are lined up. Then run a bead of solder along each side. Next wick the solder off each side. Finally, inspect for solder bridges with a magnifier. If you find one, run another bead, and wick it off. When its perfect,clean the flux off with IPA and your ready to go. Programming is another matter, you will need to give it its initial flash.but the data sheet should point in the right direction.
@neonhomer
@neonhomer 8 лет назад
So what microcontroller is needed to make it work?
@jehminjung89
@jehminjung89 7 лет назад
have you tried this ?
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