DISASTER?! The Acolyte cost 230 Million! WHERE did that money go?

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A new report has come out revealing that The Acolyte, the latest Star Wars series, cost a staggering $230 million to produce-$30 million more than the rumored $200M! How did this happen, and how did anyone let this budget soar to such heights? Join Kristian Harloff as he dives into the shocking news about The Acolyte, Leslye Headland's new project under Kathleen Kennedy and Disney Star Wars. We break down what this means for Lucasfilm, Disney Plus, and the future of Star Wars, including The Acolyte Season 2 being canceled. We’ll also discuss the legacy of Kris Kristofferson and John Ashton, who sadly passed away. Plus, the latest box office news with Wild Robot leading the charge, while Coppola's Megalopolis struggles. All this and more with Kristian Harloff and John Rocha on this live episode of The Kristian Harloff Show.
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@TheKristianHarloff 7 часов назад

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@aidankeohane3370 7 часов назад

$200 million? That’s $30 million dollars higher than the budget for Top Gun: Maverick. This means that it is cheaper to get Tom Cruise, Lady Gaga and the U.S Navy than it is to make the acolyte.

@masamune2984 5 часов назад

Lady Gaga? Am I missing something?

@aidankeohane3370 5 часов назад

@@masamune2984 She wrote and performed a song for the movie.

@JKissoon1 3 часа назад

IIRC, the government will give money/equipment to a studio if the movie is portraying them in a positive light. So that might not have been a cost.

@aidankeohane3370 2 часа назад

@@JKissoon1 Definitely true, and that probably did help keep the budget where it was. That being said, the movie that put Tom Cruise in an actual fighter jets that took off from an actual aircraft carrier, cost less than the show that was filmed almost entirely on a soundstage and had very little major star power. There are fan films on RU-vid that look fairly comparable to many of the scenes in the Acolyte. And I know they didn’t cost $230 million.

@TheMasonK 2 часа назад

That’s just too freaking funny man😂

@spaulagain 6 часов назад

Money laundering, thats the only thing that explains the Acolyte's insane budget.

@mrfloosak Час назад

@@spaulagain ludicrous $28 million an episode amounts to $112 million for 2 hours and 20 minutes of screentime. That is actually lower hunter then most films. The show is aiming for a show that looks like a movie

@jamiesalmonsculpture8599 Час назад

No, they just had next level craft service for the crew😅😅

@rafaelsays175 5 часов назад

That money's not on the screen, it's in a bank account in Belize.

@High_Key 7 часов назад

This was literally my main complaint when the $100m budget was known. Now, it’s more than double? Episodes 3 & 7 could’ve been shot the same day and just edited to be two different episodes..how many times did they visit the forest set piece? This is pathetic af and if I were a shareholder, I’d demand an investigation/audit the same way Ubisoft investors are demanding the same.

@TyrellMunson 4 часа назад

$200m obviously went to Darth Plagueis....he ain't cheap!

@martinavila7401 6 часов назад

The Acolyte does not even looks that good visually and the actors are not super expensive A-listers on a season 1 so the actors had not negotiated huge contracts ala Stranger Things, something is really strange and needs an investigation.

@farakhhanif 4 часа назад

The actors from Stranger Things were not famous when they made season 1, so they couldn't really command a lot of money. The only actors on that show who people would have recognized were Winona Ryder and Matthew Modine. It wasn't until the show got to later seasons that they would have received a raise which makes sense because popular shows become more expensive that longer they run.

@martinavila7401 4 часа назад

@@farakhhanif that what i mean the costs of ST are explained because of the gigantic renegotiations from the main cast but in the Acolyte it was all new actors on a season 2 contract so why the show was so expensive?

@farakhhanif 4 часа назад

@@martinavila7401 Okay. Then we're on the same page. I thought you meant that ST actors were famous before the show started airing. I think it might have something to do with the strikes during filming.

@plisskenetic 6 часов назад

And Game of Thrones' Final Season cost under 100 million and it looked crazy epic / grand like a 300 million film!!

@philldr8 4 часа назад

If Hugh didn’t get nominated for Logan, he sure as hell ain’t getting nominated for Deadpool and Wolverine

@Grimbear13 7 часов назад

Damn Rocha crushed! Also Acyte's budget is one of the biggest mysteries ever to me... someone walked away from the set with a new hokiday house with that missing money lol... it SURE wasnt on the screen!

@AverageJoe483 4 часа назад

Rocha lost all my respect after his rant about the fans being anti - woman for not liking this show

@Ruddy-w3o 3 часа назад

@AverageJoe483 That's Rocha. On Kristians show he lies about respectful discourse. And on his own channel he's a far left loon who calls anyone who disagrees with him stupid and racist

@antonalbo 6 часов назад

Read that report in more detail Kristian... the 180 million reported budget was in UK pounds... the conversion into USD then reaches 230 million... thats where the misunderstanding resides...

@thedarkknight2221 6 часов назад

I’m genuinely convinced that the only explanation as to how these shows look like they should cost only half of what the real budget was is because someone somewhere in embezzling the rest of the budget. I literally can’t think of any other reason why the budget is so overbloated.

@SkibidiBibidi1 7 часов назад

Should these $2 blank superchats count toward the records?

@BenBRASSO-i4k 6 часов назад

A 2 hour 20 minute Rise of Skywalker cost $416 million. It’s not crazy to think a 5 hour Star Wars show would cost $230 million. They built numerous detailed sets. They had more VFX than you realize and then there’s all the creature design and practical effects. They filmed in Portugal too. And Star Wars costumes are notoriously expensive according to Gareth Edwards. Finally, they shot in Covid which added a ton of cost to huge productions like this. Acolyte was green lit in 2019, when Disney was all in on their new streaming service.

@venenders170 2 часа назад

What creature designs? The bugs that were in it for 3 minutes tops or the makeup for character’s that show up for 1 scene. As for sets the intricate sets that they built only to be in for 5 minutes like the town and tavern in the beginning while the spaces they spent the most time in were plain and boring like the Jedi Temple they always cut back to for Venestra or the fortress of the witches.

@famousthaneus9810 2 часа назад

57:02 Rocha, thank you for this. I lost my great great aunt earlier this year, and the pain still hasn't gone away. She played a huge hand in helping to raise me, and I hadn't seen/talked to her as much as I could have the last few years leading up to her death, but I did happen to visit in time to make her laugh one last time. I've been working on cherishing the memories & lessons she taught me instead of living in the pain of her absence, and your words hit extra close to home. Thank you

@JGfromSpace. 2 часа назад

I love these Harloff/Rocha Mondays!

@ludwigvanbeethoven8448 6 часов назад

Another thing that baffles me about the budget of The Acolyte is that - having worked in the political sphere in the UK - I know the the UK Governement were falling over backwards to give tax breaks and special investment deals to high end productions to attract more of them to continue the tradition of filming in the UK. So yes...its expensive to shoot on location, yes the UK isnt the cheapest place in the world, but they filmed with all the tax advantages they could possibly have had to help them cut their overall production costs too.

@ludwigvanbeethoven8448 Час назад

Addendum to the above (I commented before I got to the point in the show where Rocha helpfully cited the Forbes article). That point was, of course, covered Caroline's Forbes article. Having now looked at that article what strikes me is that aside from the wage bill being so high, it's only a fraction of the overall "production costs" I i.e. costs that do not include any wages paid by the production company. So any costs outside of that either are people being paid through other companies (and not the production company itself) or the actual costs of production. And regardless of which it is, when you take out staff wages for 300+ people we already know about...that's a lot of money for what seems like little result.

@bigalthetank 3 часа назад

Money laundering. I've seen Breaking Bad enough to know money laundering when I see it. Disney trying to help out the Walter Whites of the world.

@SmashBrosAssemble 6 часов назад

I remember back in the late 2000s early 2010s, loads of shows were getting cancelled because they were “Too Expensive” Nowadays, that’s a ridiculous excuse.

@AloisWeimar 4 часа назад

What they did to Rome was a mistake

@SoulStylistJukeBox 7 часов назад

I really enjoyed Wolfs. Made me laugh out loud quite a few times.

@peteparker22 2 часа назад

Yeah really good dialogue and chemistry between those two. It was a nice Saturday night movie at home

@SoulStylistJukeBox Час назад

@@peteparker22 Makes me sad that there may soon be no place for films like Wolfs at movie theatres.

@josephashley4122 3 часа назад

Love these shows only bad thing I miss live shows airing so early but the interaction with viewers & conversations is worth watching

@jayj4408 4 часа назад

Hmm so now i am curious whats the budget for Andor season 2. Also i wonder what the ratings for agatha will be when its all said and done.

@BetweenThePanels-2023 4 часа назад

Not trying to be an ass but if you guys read my comments you would know it's bob iger making the decisions. Qnd you can ablut this in the new york times.

@TheKristianHarloff 4 часа назад

Source?

@BetweenThePanels-2023 4 часа назад

@TheKristianHarloff go the new york times look up the article titled the disney coupe and it goes into detail on how bob iger never really let his power as ceo go even after bob chapek took the title of ceo. Its a long article but explains so much of the decisions being made at the entertainment level of disney.

@misteranderson41 6 часов назад

so did disney review bomb itself to justify canceling the show?

@chrisbrown113096 6 часов назад

If I was a shareholder 1:32 in Disney I would be livid at all of this

@GamerEnthusiast3188 6 часов назад

Regarding your comment Kristian over the budgets of The Alcolyte and Indiana Jones latest movie brings me back to my misgivings with Iger. Tons of people seem to think Iger is this great savior of Disney. Alot of crap happened on his watch prior to and after Chapek, and yet many people love to overlook Iger's failures.

@Decoto87 4 часа назад

I sometimes forget that Star Wars has sucked for John and Kristian long before Disney bought it.

@jaxsonburch-eo1vz 3 часа назад

Yeah in a way, George Lucas is to blame for where the franchise is today. If the prequels had just been great we wouldn’t be here. The sequels by Disney had this idea of trying to be the solution or savior or the prequels and they lost sight of anything else. Maybe we would have gotten George Lucas’s sequels instead of the prequels were great.

@Ruddy-w3o 3 часа назад

But it was still interesting and in a healthy place. Now it's just something most fans are apathetic towards

@jaxsonburch-eo1vz 3 часа назад

@@Ruddy-w3o Yeah but that doesn’t make the prequels any better. It just means both trilogies failed in different ways. The original trilogy was just three good to really good movies. We haven’t had that since. I enjoy all of the movies, but the only ones from the trilogies that are good films are the OG. And Rogue one. We need a set of three good films. That’s it. That’s the only thing that will get people back on board.

@Decoto87 2 часа назад

I myself think it has a lot to do with being a kid at the right time. I was a kid when my older brother brought home the original trilogy on VHS. Then I got the experience the special editions in theaters. Then the prequels followed after that. After watching the sequels I thought maybe it wasn’t for me anymore. But I do like Rogue One and The Mandalorian. I don’t hate anything, I just want it to be better.

@bctalkspod 4 часа назад

I'm glad The Wild Robot is doing well, saw it this weekend and it's up there with Dune & Challengers as the best movies of the year for me. Its such a simple story but they executed it so well

@Fan-Nimater101 Час назад

I LOVED the wild robot even transformers one it’s been a great year for animation so far

@SoulStylistJukeBox Час назад

Also: Without Coppola, there would probably be no Lucas. Coppola produced both THX 1138 and American Graffiti. And before that Francis gave George one of his first film jobs on The Rain People. Francis and John Milius also wanted Lucas to direct Apocalypse Now. Francis is 85 and deserves our respect. I doubt he’ll make another film. And yes, it’s a shame that his new one isn’t a better final work.

@ezekielbarrera4447 2 часа назад

Please let big balls out tomorrow!

@Dp_is_Op 6 часов назад

Acolyte should've cost 100 to 150 million less.Someone is laundering money

@don8009 4 часа назад

Laundering money up the nose.

@SoulStylistJukeBox 2 часа назад

Seems like people will still be talking about The Acolyte for many years to come. I suspect these Disney Plus failures will hurt the success of future SW movies.

@JareNaibors 4 часа назад

Killers of the Flower Moon received 10 Oscar nominations. Rocha is such a bonehead.

@SoulStylistJukeBox 6 часов назад

Someone asked about people walking out during a movie. The two biggest i’ve ever noticed were actually for two I really liked: Neon Demon and Tree of Life.

@johnniepetrizza9798 2 часа назад

Hope to see bret tomorrow

@anthonyborrelli9936 55 минут назад

There are only two things that make sense as to where that money went. Option 1: Money laundering... Option 2: Embezzlement.

@theactionisthejuice2146 6 часов назад

Megalopolis is COMPLETELY different to these other situations. Say what you will about the movie, but this is a 40 years in the making project self-proclaimed “fable” directed/written/produced and almost entirety self-financed by a dying 85 year old man who has bankrupted himself multiple times over in the name of art and who secured his legacy long ago, dedicated to his late wife who never got to see it. It was just about getting it made. Sometimes that is enough.

@josephashley4122 3 часа назад

It does seem Acolyte is the piñata of all things nerd. I kind of agree Mike Joyce but it's example of crazy budget & bad story & high price actors & short episodes with negative views returned

@marcakins3373 6 часов назад

I just don’t get, how a Star Wars show isn’t an instant hit….you can do so much with just bare minimum, high end fight scenes, mysterious villains….it can write itself….if you are going to spend $230 million get unknown new actors and spend the rest on talented CGI artists…everyone behind the scenes of Acolyte should be fired….nothing is salvageable, it is best just to Willow reboot it and erase from existence….start again

@thebadasstimes 4 часа назад

Heads should roll at Lucasfilm. Ive worked for huge mutliple huge corporations and a cluster f**k like what is going down at lucasfilm is wild. We may not know about it yet. But the reason there is no official films or series besides mando film. I guarantee that Disney higher ups are making sure that kennedy and the others are going to be removed. franchise was valued at 5 to 10 billion a fews years after George himself sold it to Disney for 4 billion. They have ran it into the ground. People will be fired. and probably already have. We just dont know about it yet

@captaincorona9488 28 минут назад

Something needs to change with this franchise. Hate to see it die. I do not want the next generation of movie goers say, “what is Star Wars?”

@jmelamp3926 5 часов назад

I’m not a wrestling guy and watched the Mr McMahon doc, being that I know very little I actually really enjoyed it. Basically learned about everything that happened in that doc/in wrestling history for the first time which was an interesting experience.

@nsgmma4680 5 часов назад

Speaking of how far problematic has gone. There is a content warning before reruns of The Andy Griffth show on the channel I watch in Canada. I found that a little extreme. Lol. Thanks for the great content.

@kristinab3838 4 часа назад

I wonder how much Andor season 2 will cost. Season 1 cost $250 for 12 episodes. It'll be really interesting to see and compare with the Acolyte.

@mydreaminorbit9297 5 часов назад

Sheesh $230 mill, The Acolyte felt the most confined and limited out of all the Star Wars shows. Headland is a true con artist and KK is a dope.

@GetYourDJNOW 3 часа назад

The Acolyte, i enjoyed, but when watching it, the quality seemed cheaper, i would have watched a second one, but that cost way too much. I did not see the value in the budget.

@game9848 2 часа назад

Maybe they Steak and Lobster ever day for the Craft catering services on set. Or the director learned to hide budget money, from her former employer.

@martinavila7401 6 часов назад

Did Wandavision did well internationally? Its a similar provincial storyline than Agatha bit definitely a way more popular character that had already been in the biggest mcu movies.

@thebadasstimes 4 часа назад

Like Harloff always says about a Terminator film. Give me a barebones, small indie scifi star wars film for 50 to 100 million. Hell, pick ur the lot of all the great fan film creators out there.

@austinesser 2 часа назад

I truly want to see an expense sheet for productions of this magnitude. I want to know where every single dollar was allocated towards

@MindofMike35 4 часа назад

Massive Undertaker fan here 🖐 The streak should have NEVER ended!!! No one deserves or, to this day, deserved to break that record!!!

@Fan-Nimater101 6 часов назад

I LOVED the wild robot even TF one Now I’m excited for Piece by piece venom 3 Moana 2 sonic 3 and LOTR war for the R

@mrfloosak 5 часов назад

Can someone please explain to me why Disney would care how many minutes it was watched? Doesn’t it only matter if they attract new subscribers? I guess they do have ads now for a small amount of the subscribers that might offset sone of the budget but really they don’t get much money for more minutes watched. I think they care more if it is critically successful and received well so they can release it on physical media and make money back. That’s why Acolyte was cancelled. They don’t think people would buy it on physical media to offset sone of the costs. But either way they have to spend money to give their customers something to watch so there is no churn

@mrfloosak 6 часов назад

@jasonesposito5606 2 часа назад

Somebodies making the Acolyte stole some money. That's how

@Syfcobra8549 4 часа назад

Cost more than the original 6 Star Wars films combined Ooooooof

@MindofMike35 5 часов назад

I finished the Vince doc in one night!!! That thing was wild!!! 😱

@josephashley4122 3 часа назад

We should drink everytime they say "hand over fist"

@travisnickerson7452 28 минут назад

The movie that should be getting more love is Saturday Night. Gabriel LaBelle does a great job as Lorne Michaels. A must watch

@peteparker22 22 минуты назад

When is the wide release? Can't wait to see it.

@masamune2984 6 часов назад

I’m even MORE curious where “The Rings of Power”’s budget went. It certainly did NOT all go into the show, hate it or like it.

@peteparker22 2 часа назад

What? The production design and costumes are top tier

@jamiesalmonsculpture8599 Час назад

Inflation, duh!!! 😂😂😂😂

@EleventhCubFan 5 часов назад

Oh boy. Megalopolis what a disaster

@brentrazz6355 51 минуту назад

How much was her partner paid hmmmm😊

@jefferychen4900 2 часа назад

Too much catering? 👀 🧐 💸

@StonerWatchproductions 5 часов назад

House of Dragon season 2 was under $200M

@SoulStylistJukeBox 6 часов назад

I guess the people who keep typing sassy comments about Coppola’s new film are too young to understand his importance in American cinema history. I hope I live long enough to see a world where Rotten Tomatoes scores and North American opening weekend box office numbers are no longer the indicators of a film’s worth. Megalopolis is indeed a hugely flawed film but you know what? i’m glad it exists. Hey Kids: Resist the temptation to rewatch Deadpool and Wolverine for a seventh time and go watch Coppola’s 1974 masterpiece, The Conversation.

@venenders170 2 часа назад

Ok boomer. Stop telling people how to feel and what to do with their money. Just cause someone did great in the past doesn’t mean they get a free check for the rest of their life on all the projects they make.

@SoulStylistJukeBox 2 часа назад

@@venenders170 You kids are free to watch and enjoy anything that makes you happy. That said, it would be nice if those of you who’ve recently spent so much time cheering for Francis to fail could at least familiarise yourself with his filmography. I’m happy that Harloff and Rocha were at least being respectful when reporting on the predictable failure of his new film.

@venenders170 2 часа назад

@@SoulStylistJukeBox I acknowledge what he’s done in the past and what he did for cinema but you also have to acknowledge “what have you done lately” in the creative business your only as good as your last 1 or 2 projects and there are other filmmakers around his age still making movies because they’ve grown and evolved their style and filmmaking. He clearly hasn’t as no one wanted to help financially front the film and so he had to do it himself. He wanted to make the film and have it in theaters and that’s what he got.

@SoulStylistJukeBox Час назад

@@venenders170Good points. He’s 85 year old and it’s unfortunate that his final film isn’t a better one. Hopefully we’ll eventually see a longer cut. As I watched it this past weekend I could tell that lots of it was cut so that the run time wouldn’t go too far over 120 minutes. I’m convinced much of what he chose to remove made it a stronger film.

@scottbarkley496 23 минуты назад

Kristian hates timestamps

@andycalmes4201 3 часа назад

Just curious, why should fans care if studios overspend on budgets?

@TyrellMunson 3 часа назад

If they overspend and don't get the results they're after they won't be confident making any more...hench The Acolyte. A story that will never be concluded leaving fans unsatisfied and hesitant to put time into anything else!!

@andycalmes4201 45 минут назад

@@TyrellMunson that’s more an issue of the writers being arrogant and not giving the show a proper conclusion. I think it’s funny that a bunch of dumb executives were duped into giving a group of artists a ton of money.

@tiniestavenger6329 6 часов назад

I seriously believe an investigation should be conducted on this. Where did that money go? The show looked incredibly cheap. Its not possible.. whatbare the salaries for the actors who didn't have to audition for roles, like Amandla and Leslie's wife

@mrfloosak 5 часов назад

How many subscribers does Disney plus have? 153.6 million. So basically the Acolyte is paid for by $1.50 from each subscriber. If the show airs over two months you are talking $1.50 Out of anywhere from $20 to $40 depending on package. That’s not a big percentage when you consider Star Wars and Marvel are there flagship shows. That plus the show will be on the service for years.

@KHeisig75 5 часов назад

I sub to D+ for $2-$3/month. Just saying. I hear a flushing toilet choking down some currency.

@mrfloosak 5 часов назад

@@KHeisig75 I’m guessing you got the introductory offer. The vast majority are paying $10 for basic or $16 for premium. So if you average that to $12 a month they are making 2 billion a month. So 24 Billion a year. The total global box office of all studios combined in 2023 was 33.5 billion. That’s why they spend $230 million on an 8 episode series that can up there subscriber numbers for two months and beyond and add to their content. They have to build a library of compelling content.

@chrisrevel2801 2 часа назад

@@mrfloosakrunning a streaming service of this size cost a lot of money on top of paying for content

@mrfloosak Час назад

@@chrisrevel2801 of course. But anyone knows that when starting a new business there are going to be a few years where they have to build the business up and spend a certain amount to get subscribers and then they cut back because the business is now built. You see this with Iger saying that they are going to cut back Disney and Marvel shows to 1 a year. It isn’t necessarily that the shows didn’t help them gain subscribers it’s just now that they have a certain amount of subscribers they aren’t going to spend as much in content. They already have tons of content now and are hoping cutting back two a few shows a year keeps the subscribers. If they see churn they will ramp up production again. But it’s hardly surprising in an era of rampant inflation that a show will. OST $28 million an episode if they are aiming for a show that stands up to film.

@chrisrevel2801 Час назад

@@mrfloosak spotify started in 2008 , they don't pay for content but they still have to turn a profit ... so far they have lost around 5 billion . Streaming killed the music industry , i don t see how hollywood would make it work

@djaf8550 3 часа назад

I only clicked on this to say F Rocha. He’s always been a hater since Collider days. Harloff is coo tho…

@SoulStylistJukeBox 2 часа назад

I rolled my eyes when I saw the image of the kid from Family Matters in the upcoming Star Wars TV series. After the Lizzo and Jack Black debacle you’d think Lucasfilm would have learned their lesson. I guess i’ll sit here and patiently wait for Andor 2.

@Zethonring23 2 часа назад

I got movie fatigue once, just for the heck of it back in 2021 I decided to try watching a new film every night for the year, just to see how far I'd make it. I made it about 2 and a half months and just had to stop. Watching a whole movie is so mentally taxing, like reading a whole book or watching a whole season of TV all at once, I reached a point where I just mentally couldn't handle jumping into another world with a different story and fresh set of characters, again, the thought made me feel sick.