NOTE - There are a few things to clarify/correct regarding some of the rules: Rule #3 - Out of Bounds (O.B) & Hazard - You take up to 1-meter perpendicular from the O.B. Avoiding taking relief closer to the basket does not apply (unlike ball golf). Rule #5 - Moving obstacles -You can move loose debris (i.e. things that are not attached). Rule #6 - 10 meter/33-foot Rule -There is no re-putt on a stance violation or warning. You simply putt from where your disc lands and incur a +1-penalty stroke (changed in 2018) -After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance behind the marker disc before advancing toward the target. The disc therefore DOES NOT have to have finished it's flight or be resting in the basket before you can step forward. -You need to ANY supporting point of contact behind your lie. It COULD be your foot, but it could also be something like your knee.
I am confused on the out of bounds? In ball golf out of bounds is stroke plus distance. You must hit a provisional shot in case the ball is out of bounds. In disc golf this looks like you can keep your distance to the out of bounds line more like a hazard in ball golf. Do you still incur a 1 stroke penalty?
It depends on the course. Some courses have designated drop zones, whereas others allow you to play from where you disc went out. No matter what, you always get a penalty stroke of +1. Hope this helps! 👍
Well, when the video title is “rules you MUST know”, my guess is it’s a video targeting rookies that might not know some of the rules. I’d be happy to play with this guy, I’m sure I’d learn a lot!
For displaying full control of balance a picture you showed has a guy that fell backwards and you listed that as ok. But falling backwards is failing to show a display of your control of balance.
You make a perfectly valid point, and it’s crazy I never saw that!:p. IMO, there is definitely a need for a bit more clarity... The rule states showing balance, yet the PDGA released those images as well. From what I can see, it’s ok to fall back after a putt, but you can’t fall forward. And it makes sense because falling back would provide no advantage. Anyways, thanks for bringing that up! 👍
Michael O'Neill the rule is that you have to demonstrate balance before advancing forward of your lie. You could fall flat on your back after putting as long as it occurs behind your lie.
This may sound nit-picky, but in the part discussing throwing out of bounds, you say you play from where the disc first crossed out of bounds. I think a more accurate way to frame it is that you play from the last spot where you were inbounds. For instance, a roller might go out of bounds off the tee, stand up inbounds, and then finish OB close to the basket. In that instance, you’d play from close to the basket (the last place it was inbounds) rather than the spot where it first crossed out of bounds. Hope that made sense!
@@JustDisc Also you can take as much relief in a direct line away from the basket as you want from any OB throw, the pros do this all the time, sometimes backing up 20 feet or more to have a clearer shot. Additionally, you can absolutely take your 3 meter relief closer to the basket, this happens frequently on greens that are surrounded by OB.
I've personally never heard or seen anyone play a disc from where it crossed out of bounds. Typically what people do is take an extra stroke and rethrow, or go to a designated/marked drop zone. I feel as though throwing it OB and taking it from the OB line would be an advantage and could be used to manipulate the OB for the following shot. For example, an OB behind a basket. The OB line would be closer than where it landed, so taking it from the line would be a closer putt, therefor an advantage strategy.
Just so new players know. Please do not try to enforce all these rules if you just started playing or are playing casually with friends. Unless you are playing a tournament or for money then just focus on actually throwing the disc and not taking an hour to pick out a disc and throw. I have seen guys with 20+ discs in their bags that can't actually throw further than 200 ft, but want to play the rules to a T. Don't be that guy.
First time I played a tourney I thought that your out of bounds lie is from where your disc landed at the on line, not where it crossed. And they were like “dude what are you doing” I felt so dumb dude
Rule #5 isn't a problem in Arizona. Definitely can't move a cactus and pretty much every other plant out here is covered in thorns. Trying to get your foot into a thorn bush though, that's a different story
This part do have me wondering about the details. We are not allowed to step closer to the basket, so what about this: You throw a disc past the basket and into a bush/hedge, full of thorns, nettles or whatever bad stuff. You can reach the disc, but you can’t stand inside the bush, and if you are to put a foot inside it for the right position, the rest of your body is closer to the basket, as you can’t reach it from the opposite side. What do you do in this situation?
Excactly. I thought the rule were, that any loose obstacle, like a branch or small rock or whatever, lying behind your marker, is allowed to be removed. That's how I've been playing for sure :) but not being pro, I rarely care how people play tbh :)
I feel like the 30-second rule should be a top one. I get screwed by people not following the 30-second rule all the time. I see them just standing there with their bag on their backs so I think I'm out, then I throw and get yelled at for throwing out of turn - I wouldn't have throw out of turn if you weren't taking 60 seconds from the time you get to your lie to even pick a disc - I thought you were standing there waiting on me, not lollygagging an illegal amount of time.
These people sound like a nightmare. I like to get in quick rounds so I can maybe play a second. I mean, if I already made the drive, why not get the most out of the course?
These rules obviously need to be in play for tournaments and by organized events. But outside of that if you’re all up on these rules when throwing a round chill the heck out. There’s been plenty of rounds ruined because some “pro wannabe” is stomping around the whole course crying about rules. Break a branch, take a step to the side, never put bounds unless you can’t find the disc, fall over whenever on putting while your buddy sits on top of the basket, and to hell with mandos! Disclaimer- I’m totally biased against these rules because some douche of a player ruined my first tournament experience.
I hear ya Timothy! When the game is taken too seriously, it can take away the fun. Kind of why my tournament days are over after playing ball golf competitively. Often when playing with friends, we let a lot these things go 👍
Nitpicky clarification on legal stance ~ 2:45 in the video: You need to have a supporting point of contact behind your lie (and no supporting point in front of it). It COULD be your foot, but it could also be your knee, your tuckus, or a one-armed handstand if you're feeling acrobatic :D It's nitpicky, but worth pointing out for some lies with low-ceiling obstacles (eg tree branches) directly in front of them.
One more thing, you can have a foot closer to the basket in one instance, you can have your front foot ahead, if you push backwards off that foot so it is in the air when you release the disc, and that foot sets down behind your marker.
Yeah these rules are pretty much like shooting pool or street ball, most people play slop and nobody cares about 2/3 of them unless you're in a tourney or money is involved. Like mandos, squishing grass (give me a break), accidently falling forward, 30 second rule. Throw your disc, play it as it lays and have fun - those are the only rules you need till you're on the tournament level.
It doesn't come up very often because that only really happens when there is a painted OB line. Most of the time there is a string, or fence, or flags, or a difference in the length of the grass, or water, or some other much thinner indicator of the OB line.
Depending on the TD, the line could count as in bounds. The rule says it is out of bounds if it is completely surrounded by ob. I see this on tournament coverage often. Most of the time if any part of the disc is touching the line (not necessarily over the line towards in bounds), it is ruled as in bounds.
Very informative especially considering the foot position for throws. I never knew you could move on subsequent throws so long as you're "in the box" upon release.
Not trying to be a pedantic ass, but the PDGA rules don't say anything about a "foot" in the 8x12" lie area. The rules say "supporting point," which means you can have any part of your body in that area and still throw legally. This is almost always a foot, but I can imagine weird instances and positions where some other body part could be useful. Cheers!
Yeah I would agree! Sometimes our group dismiss things like OB and just play the disc as it lies. In our opinion, its the way the game should be played!
I break all these rules. For me the more rules, the less fun. Nothing ruins a game faster for me and somebody calling out someone on some bullshit. If they want to cheat let them, unless it a pro Tournaments
Play however you like, its all just for fun anyways! We don't usually play OB rules ourselves because it can take away from the enjoyment out of the game 👍
It's our preferred way to play when not being competitive. Feels more like the old school days of disc golf. You want to throw it out of the water!? Go ahead! lol
I heard that they changed the rules, and that you dont have a warning nowadays for the foot fault, in the past you had a warning first, but I think they changed it to a penalty even the first time? Can you confirm?
Hey Matthieu, you are correct! Most leagues will be nice about it and might give you a 2nd chance, but on your first offence you would normally get a penalty stroke. I did pin a comment to this video which clarifies a few things like that. Hope this helps!
OB line rule when disc touches the line makes zero sense. It should be as in all other sports where line comes to play. Entire ball, disc, whatever, should cross the line to be over it.
@@JustDisc In every sport where scoring is involved there should be clearly defined by True/False scoring method. In my opinion gray zones should be eliminated. Disc golf is a young sport. I'm sure It will adapt.
Exactly what I was looking for. Recently got into disc golf and a lot of the other videos about rules are too basic, not going into some important rules like these. 👍🏻
Direct line from the basket is where you mark. I see so many people mark a little off center so they can take advantage of being at better angles or obstacles. I may have missed some updates but I feel that's still there.
Can you take the meter relief if you don’t go o b. If my disk lands on the edge of a stream but is inbounds, can I take 3 feet from the waters edge so I don’t fall in when taking my shot?
@@JustDisc follow up! I was watching a tournament and someone’s upshot landed in the water but was partially on land. Any part of the disc is on the shore and it’s playable, right? Wouldn’t you have to play behind the lie, so standing in the water then? He definitely was not standing in the water when he putted?
7:14 is not correct. The disc being in the basket has no bearing on your movement. PDGA rules state "After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance behind the marker disc before advancing toward the target. A player who fails to do so has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw." You can move forward once you have demonstrated control, NOT once the disc in the basket.
Yeah sorry. I really wish we could go back and fix the issue, or at least be able to add in a comment within the video. Hopefully RU-vid will have that feature in the future 🤞
I’ve got some rules... dogs. Leave them at home, and if you can’t, use a leash. Can’t tell you how many times dogs have ruined my discs. In addition to using a leash, CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR DOG! Don’t leave a pile of dogshit anywhere on the course, even in those disposable bags. Also, we don’t want to listen to your music, use some headphones. Bottom line, be respectful of other players on the course!
Yeah nobody cares that you're butthurt. I'll listen to my music, but you'll only really hear it if we're teeing off together. And my dog is gonna run around off leash, she's voice controlled. If you don't like it, build a private park.
Yes that’s exactly right! It was something we forgot to mention. We did however pin a comment explaining the correction and a few others. Thanks for asking! 👍
Stepping past your disc isn't always allowed. Foot faults can be called if inside certain circles. Typically, foot faults are called when putting from inside circle 1. You can not step past your disc until your disc is completely settled. Foot faults can also be called if you run up to your disc during your Throw and you throw from too far behind or to the side of your disc. Doing so gives a player different angles of attack on a line, giving them an unfair advantage. The foot closest to your disc must be within 1 foot behind your marker. And if you are stepping to the side of your disc, it must be from a stationary position, and not a run up shot. Running up from the side of your disc is a foot fault.
So there’s a course here in Tucson AZ an there’s curbs that out line the course. My disc flew close landed half way on and when I went to retrieve it. On the other side was a rattlesnake snake laying against the curb just as long as the curb! Freaked out both of us 😳 snake coiled up so fast lol 😂🤘🏽🤦🏽♂️
So just started watching your channel and I found a discraft bag, 2 x thrasher drivers, midrange and driver for $5.99 at savers kinda like a thrift store place. Like brand new also was that a good deal?
@@JustDisc I guess the issue is the disc usually scoots a few inches when flipped, but it hardly seems to matter. I was told at one point, it was allowable to flip left, right or forward, whatever gives you a nine inch advantage. (That’s what she said).
I can't stand the Line of sight etiquette. If you can't "zone" to throw, you shouldn't be playing. I do understand standing in the path of your throw or behind the basket.
If you don't have a mini marker and you play from where the disc lands can you place another disc at that spot if the disc that is on the ground is the one you want to use ?
The first couple rules makes sense, but when I'm playing on my own, some of the latter rules just don't feel as important, especially when not considering competitive in any way.
4:47 - "...as long as it's no closer to the basket..." Disagree. Relief is perpendicular to the OB line, and thus may be closer to the target - eg when OB is beyond the target, relief gets you closer if you go OB (or even if you are within relief distance of OB)
You are correct! We addressed this in our pinned post. We wish we could go back and change it, or even add a text below, but RU-vid doesn’t allow it. Thanks for noticing/clarifying either way 👍
How far back from where your disc lands can you throw it? Today my drive ended up in a ravine well below the hole. I would have had a better shot 10 feet directly back at the top of the ravine. Is it legal to take my second shot there?
Good question Richard! If you are dropping after going OB, you can go as far back as you'd like. However, when throwing from your lie, your leading foot (right before the release) must land within the 8" by 12" box seen in this video. Hope this helps!
A lot of questions about mandos. I still have some :-) To help clarify here is the official online rules as of my post. (Also to clarify if a PDF rule or a written rule is different from the online PGA, the online is stated to be the correct) www.pdga.com/rules/official-rules-disc-golf/80402 804.02 Prohibited Routes Last updated: Monday, December 31, 2018 - 12:42 A. Mandatory Lines 1. A mandatory line is a line on the playing surface marked by the Director to indicate when a disc has missed a mandatory. 2. If no line has been marked for a single mandatory, it is defined as a straight line extending indefinitely from the center of the mandatory object on the incorrect side, perpendicular to the line connecting the mandatory object to the previous mandatory object, or if there is no previous mandatory, the tee. 3. If no lines have been marked for a double mandatory, then there are two lines, one for each mandatory object. Each line is defined as described above for single mandatories. 4. A double mandatory may also be height-restricted, in which case there is a third line connecting the two mandatories, with the incorrect side being either above or below the line. B. A throw has missed a mandatory if, from the direction of the tee previous lie, it completely crosses a mandatory line and comes to rest without coming back across the line (a throw or sequence of throws that crosses the line in both directions is considered not to have crossed the line). C. A player who makes a throw that misses a mandatory receives one penalty throw. The lie for the next throw is the drop zone for that mandatory or, if no drop zone has been designated, the previous lie. D. The nearest mandatory whose mandatory line is crossed by the line between the lie and the target is considered to be the target for all rules related to marking the lie, stance, obstacles, and relief, with one exception: 806.01 Putting Area.
ok... question for you. Say you and I are playing in a tournament. I have putt inside the circle and have a falling put (fall forward while putting) I miss the putt! BUT you call me for a falling putt and give me a warning. By the rules you giving me a warning makes me have to re-throw that putt correct? So you could call me out of courtesy but now I legal get a second go at the putt correct? Asking for you opinion as we ran across this in my group in a tourney this fall( I was not putting or the one who called the falling putt) Thanks for your thoughts!
Hi Emery, thanks for the question! Actually, there are a few corrections that I made in the description and I also pinned a comment. As of 2018, there is no re-putt on a stance violation or warning. You simply putt from where your disc lands and incur a +1-penalty stroke. I hope this helps! 👍
Yeah we are lucky! However, with disc golf increasing in popularity, more courses keep popping up! Have you tried Caledonia? It’s an awesome championship course
@@JustDisc I have not! will have to check it out. Planning on going to check out Christie Lake this weekend, weather permitting. The more courses to check out the better!
For sure! We typically play at 4 courses due to proximity. Our favourites in order are Caledonia, Paris, Christie’s and Mohawk. Have fun and let me know what you think!
picking up sticks and loose debris on the ground behind your disc is not allowed? pretty sure you dont have to stand on the branch or litter while you throw, unless its attached to\part of the ground or in front of the disc
806.01.b "After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance behind the marker disc before advancing toward the target. A player who fails to do so has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw." Nothing about the disc coming to rest in the basket. This is important for two reasons. First, a missed putt can incur a penalty. Second, balance can be established before the disc comes to rest - the wind blows it out of the chains while your approaching doesn't incur a penalty.
Thanks for the input, you aren’t the first to mention that! I will add it to the pinned comment at the top to help with clarification. At the same time, the rule still lacks clarity... who’s to say what’s controlled balance or not? Also, how long should this control of balance be demonstrated? IMO, the PDGA needs to add clarity because my interpretation of full control of balance may be different than someone else’s.
@@JustDisc A little late reply (But the rules still apply I guess)... If you putt... loose balance and comit a stance violation... AND the disk goes OB, do you incur 2 penalties. (i.e +2 for stance AND OB). I guess this applies to any stance/OB "The penalty for a foot fault - and any other stance violation - is one extra throw added to a player's score for that hole and...that's it. The player throws their next shot from wherever their last throw landed." Is that "Last Throw" the last legal throw... or the Fowl throw.... If it was the last legal throw (i.e you throw again from the spot you made the fowl shot from) then no issue... If it was the fowl... then no issue if it landed IB... but if it landed OB... you can't take it from where it lies... and I guess another +1.
There could be 6 ETTIQUITE rules that I think new disc golfers should know. The first I saw a commenter hit on, staying behind the person furthest out. So often I have had people walking past me (usually after a terrible drive of mine LOL) and having to say hey "watch out" but then having to throw with them staring back at me. not good. The BIGGEST one I could think of is, that new golfers might not even think of, is letting people play through. if its you and 4 buddies throwing and you see a group smaller than you waiting on the tee box, please wave to them and let them play through. the less number in a group should be allowed to play through. Exceptions are for when you acknowledge a huge skill difference. (4 really good players playing best shot doubles will play faster than 3 new disc golfers, ets) Also, if you want to throw a second "practice shot" make sure the group is ok with it and most importantly!!! there arent people waiting on you. huge faux pas!
When you were talking about throwing order, I really wish you would have mentioned that not only is there a throwing order at the tee, but also (and this is something I see all the time with big groups and new players or kids playing) is to WAIT until everybody's thrown before walking forward ! It drives me nuts to see some kid throw, and then just start walking down the fairway and then the next guy behind him is yelling "fore!" and so on and you've got all these kids walking forward and people are trying to throw and people are getting hit and dodging discs. It's ridiculous
Yeah it’s a common problem, especially with people who don’t play it often. My suggestion is you either A) Teach them the etiquette or B) Find a new group 😂
@JustDisc - JD You know, maybe if it were at a Professional course I would say you are right. But at these public parks, uptight a-holes yelling every damn rule to some kids trying to learn and have fun just ends up turning them off of the sport altogether. Maybe the "Pros" should learn to be more patient and considerate, and maybe stop feeling like they need to throw at a kids head because they took an extra few seconds to throw when the so called expert felt they were not moving fast enough for them. This etiquette swings both ways, newbies AND supposed veterans. Grow the sport through fun and stop making everything so damn technical.
You are wrong about moving things. You are allowed to move objects that are not attached to the course itself or/and dead objects just as trees, branches, rocks, etc.
Hey Eric! I I don’t think there is any additional relief from a “hazardous OB line” like barbed wire. If it too dangerous, you would simply have to re-throw from your last throw
803.02 Relief from Obstacles Last updated: Sunday, December 31, 2017 - 18:16 A. A player may obtain relief from the following obstacles that are on or behind the lie: motor vehicles, harmful insects or animals, people, or any item or area as designated by the Director. To obtain relief, the player may mark a new lie that is on the line of play, farther from the target, at the nearest point that provides relief. B. If a large solid obstacle prevents the player from taking a legal stance behind the marker disc, or from marking a disc above or below the playing surface, the player may mark a new lie immediately behind that obstacle on the line of play. C. A player who takes relief other than as allowed above receives one penalty throw. D. A player may elect at any time to take optional relief by declaring their intention to the group. The lie may then be relocated by marking a new lie which is farther from the target, and is on the line of play. One penalty throw is added to the player's score. E. No penalty throw is added if optional relief is being taken following a penalty taken for a disc out-of-bounds or above two meters.
Excellent video JD. Have one question concerning how you play a disc that is barely inbounds but your lie behind the disc would force you to play the shot with your feet OB. For instance, I threw to an island green and my disc was the same distance as the basket and was 1 inch in bounds to the left. Playing my next shot would mean that my support foot would be in the OB, which I understand is not allowed. Is there any option or relief from the rules so that I can play my legally in bounds disc towards the basket without violating the placing the support foot in the OB area rule? Bill
question on on the mando if you didn't make the mando can you still shoot where it lies. and try to make the mando or does it automatically go to the mando drop zone?
Good question! Some courses make you go directly to the drop zone, while others allow you to play it from your previous lie (which is usually the teepad). You used to be allowed to try and play it back to the mando, but that is no longer the case. Hope this helps!
2 questions from a beginner. If your course doesn’t have a drop zone, does that mean you are forced to throw from the previous spot? And if you choose to re-throw from the tee pad are you charged the extra penalty point on top of your first throw (ie: 2 points) or are you just taking 1 penalty point and throwing again for number 2?
You are required to re-tee with an added penalty stroke of +1. Therefore you’d be throwing your 3rd shot from the tee box after having missed the mando. Hope this helps!
Yeah, I’ve actually seen some pros do it too. I think the rule/complaint for it is ridiculous! To me, it’s just being nit picky when we all know it doesn’t represent your putt.
@@JustDisc too true just so I know we are on the same page I'm pointing out the so called practice throw when you throw a disc back to your back...... didn't know it existed and made myself.look silly and I think its only over a certain distance away.
@@JustDisc Hasn't been illegal since the latest rule update in 2018. 809.03.A "A practice throw is any throw that is not made as a competitive attempt to change the lie, except for a throw that is made either to set aside an unused disc or to return a disc to a player and that travels less than five meters in the air. A drop is not a practice throw."
Rule 5 Moving Objects: my disc landed in a “web” of thorny growth. I was able to get my hand in to retrieve the disc, but no way to stand according to rules without hurting myself. Is there relief without penalty? In this specific case, I think the leeway explained in rule for standing behind the marker would have applied, but if not? Our group has agreed rules for casual play, just wondering official rule.
From my experience, it would be an unplayable lie with a penalty of +1. So you would take up to 3 meter relief no closer to the basket. Because if you really think about it, if there was no penalty, then who’s to say what’s safe or not safe? A player could simply say “hey, this branch is hurting my leg, so it’s unplayable” and take advantage of the rule.
@@JustDisc incurring a stroke for landing in a sand trap. Incurring a stroke for not making the "mando" Not being allowed to flip over disk on the ground but instead needing a marker.
