PLEASE READ: The reserved username list is in a weird spot. I'll make an updated video on it but as of now I wouldn't assume some Discord corruption if these names go on sale. (If I had to guess, I think the list either shows some names from the complex and ambiguous reserve system OR some of the names on the list got dropped due to the bot username changes). It's confusing as heck and I'm trying to stay on top of it. Also, it seems like Discord’s automatic system banned a whole bunch of people who checked the pomelo endpoint (checked username availability). Thankfully this was quickly reversed and people got their accounts back. It is a good warning though that if you are going to muck around with discord stuff, use an alt account.
The # number system was the perfect balance of everyone being able to have whatever name they want and the security of avoiding scammers/fraud by using the number to verify.
Yes it was perfect, until they let people change their numbers. I still have no idea why they'd destroy their own discriminator system. It's like letting variables in code change themselves whenever they feel like it. :/
@@NerdConfederation I've always assumed that being able to change your discriminator numbers prevented annoying/threatening people from sending friend requests after blocking them when they make new accounts to get through to you, that's just an example though. Of course, it would come with a cost too.
YEAH. now its EASIER to impersonate people if you got nitro to get your username change before them. you can even hide the discriminator number badge so you can fully impersonate them so long as nobody asks you to turn on your legacy number badge. like i would (jokingly) impersonate my friend on april fools day for the silly goofies, but you can TELL who's who if you remember what their discriminator and what my discriminator were. they just removed one of the best ways to avoid scams and in turn let you pay to impersonate. additionally, its a lot easier to find people with a target username now, its what people used to see if the username they want is taken.
hot take, but I think Discord is gearing up to launch a social media service. They'll launch it in one of two ways. Either A, they'll automatically enroll every single user of Discord into this service to boast their numbers for the launch of the service, or, if they have any assemblance of soul left, they'll provide some kind of one-click option for users to join said social media service with their already existing Discord account. To me, this would make their name change update make more sense, since your name + 4 numbers wouldn't work particularly well on a social media service. Well, it would... but maybe not AS well as usernames.
my guess is that discord wants to go public and decided removing discriminators would appeal to investors more, given that it already is a form of social media. Maybe the weird excuses are them being disingenuous about their intentions.
Well, it turns out they did literally the opposite 😅 . Oh, and btw not only the staff accounts were allowed to call dibs early, their alts too have claimed the new usernames as well, some of those were registered as late as _this very month_ 😑 .
@Alex: The Movie you will never feel the warmth of fame through leeching off of others and putting people down. buy yourself some talent and then state your piece
I never understood usernames that are limited to one person in video games or on social media, I liked the tag system with the numbers after the username that don’t always show
@@Luxalpa Did you reply to the wrong person or something? He literally said he liked the tag system, as not just one person could be named "Mike". The new system is the opposite of that, you DON'T get to choose whatever nickname you want, because if somebody registers with the name "Mike" before you, then you cannot also name yourself just "Mike", you must then name yourself "Mike1" or "Mike." or something like that. It's not more freedom we get, it's less, and it makes it actually easier for scammers, easier to be hacked (because it's easier to guess the nickname), and then the bitterness of not being able to have the exact nickname you really want to use.
@@iamyourgreatgreatgreatgrea6291 Did you not read properly or something? Nickname and usernames are different systems. They meant the display name that has no restriction in regards to being unique (like the server nicknames currently are), because it's backed up by the unique username. And just as a disclaimer: I'm as much against this new change as any other person.
instead of implementing better security measures and taking scam reports seriously, they instead inconvenience all of their current, non-malicious users. it's so obnoxious how WE are the ones that have to deal with scambaiting accounts pestering us on THEIR platform and in return they make every user suffer.
Why should discord care about security measures? If your account is compromised, and you have a payment method tied to it, the hacker who stole your account can use it to buy a bunch of nitro gifts to sell, which discord profits off of.
I still can't understand how "we could have only 9999 people with the exact same username, so now we're reducing that to one person per username" does nothing to meaningfully change the platform. People will probably still use their damn denominator but as a string at the end of their username, so it's just inconveniencing everyone to be twitter with more scams and just as reprehensible of an userbase
Think what they were trying to say is moreso on, people usually never pay attention to the numbers after the tag, but if it's literally part of your username like instead of Mike#5912 its Mike5912, people will be able to remember or at least pay more attention to those numbers and add them better/ make its better for well known creators/ brand accounts to have their own name without impersonators.
Also like, to get more people to be able to have the same name, there's actually a pretty good solution: Change the discriminator to use hexadecimal or some other higher base that uses letters. No need to even change anything for existing users since all current discriminators would still be valid, and it would add WAY more username availability
@@Lawfyy what if I don't want to be Mike5792 but Mike? the old system is just better and if it's such a huge issue why not add a fifth or sixth denominator number? (Nevermind that it's not and nobody ever complained)
Not sure if anyone's talked about it yet but the fact they're not just removing tens if not hundreds of unicode characters for just ". and -" but also ALL 26 CAPITAL LETTERS is a huge deal and massive counterpoint to their idea of "but u can only have 10k Timmys before it's locked" cuz NOT ONLY can there only be 1 timmy (yes, timmy cuz no more capitals) but there is also way less possible combinations overall. In a simulation of username combinations using only lowercase letters and between 2-10 characters, u can get somewhere around 7,119,490 different combinations, but just by adding a SINGLE character into the possible characters, u can get 10,970,245 possible combinations instead... a full 3,850,755 MORE POSSIBLE USERNAMES just by adding ONE character. So if we step back a bit.... if we discount the fact like 10k(?) people can own the same username in the "Legacy" username system, merely removing ALL CAPITALS AND ALMOST ALL SYMBOLS in the new system will cost us hundreds of millions (maybe even billions since adding even a single character into a system exponentially increases the possible combinations over time) of possible usernames MULTIPLIED by the already lost 10k variations thanks to the discriminator numbers.... TL;DR: We went from no real requirement to have "unique names" to a system where we MUST have a unique name but with less than half of usable characters. What a total hogwash of an excuse to completely ruin a system. The new system is legitimately worse than the systems first created when the internet was created
@Alex yes u can call urself timmy(insert arbitrary addons here), but if discords issue is there can only be 10k timmy's at any given time, how is removing all 10k and forcing them to make arbitrary differences in their name any different? All it does is make it so that there can only ever be 1 person with just "timmy", but to reiterate my point as simple as possible. Imagine if instead of 2-32 u instead had 2-3 chars. Now imagine all possible combinations of a username, say "z" The possible names for someone who wants to be called "z" is "z0" till "z99" (and some extra variations). With the old system not only would you be able to use these, you'd also be able to use each of them 10,000 times. ON TOP OF THAT you could also use capital Z as well, but in the new system ur limited to lowercase z. The new system literally makes way more limited just from the fact they removed half of the alphabet and every single symbol except for 2 of em Another way to think about it is this, how many unique combinations of 2 objects can you get from 3 objects? 3C2 = 3, you get 3 combinations. The more options you have the more combinations there are. Discord removed MORE THAN HALF of the choices ON TOP of removing the ability to repeat any combination up to 10k times. That's the issue I'm trying to highlight.
very interesting point. i think it’s weird for people to be upset about “stolen usernames”, but this is an argument that i can take seriously. what was the reason behind this change anyway? let’s put aside what seems like their main reason: that usernames will be easier to remember. to me, that’s a weak argument for the change, since there are many strong arguments against the change
Finding out that a man got swatted just because of a certain username isn't surprising at this point which just shows how much mentally deranged humanity has become This reply section is very amusing to read
gotta love how they just refuse to listen to their community because theyre CONVINCED theyre doing BETTER when the entire point of companies operating well is listening to their customers’ feedback
I just really enjoyed having a username I know I would never have on most websites... That made discord a lot more special. Allowing letters to be generated in discriminators would've helped with the issue.
@@CerulianHimmel five could be too much. but if for some reason a combination of four characters (numbers and/or letters) does not suffice, five can happen. Bnet tag system is like this
Something special everyone liked about discord was how you can have any username and now people will be hacked or have an unnecessary amount of adjectives and number behind their usernames.
What I find the most amusing about this whole situation is that they claim one of their reasons behind doing it is that the discriminator system creates a limit of 9,999 of the same username, so if 9,999 people already have a certain name, then nobody else can get it. So, in an effort to "prepare for the future", they're making it so that 9,998 LESS people can have any particular name. Makes a lot of sense, right?
@@ertgb_ It's just yet another example of standardization progressively ruining a service. Companies anymore are so terrified of the idea of even one person in the world preferring someone else's approach over theirs that they'd rather all conform to the same "standard", regardless of whether or not the "standard" is actually comprised of good ideas.
@@idogaming3532 Inconvenient. Nickname + discriminator worked fine, making it more complex by adding THIRD layer of nickname is just stupid by all means.
The # with 4 numbers where great because not only made possible for 10,000 people to have the exactly same username but also made impossible for random people to add you by accident or arrass you for your username since they needed to have both your nick and your numbers to add you, but now with the new system, i'm sure a lot of people will get flooded with random friend requests
The thing I hate most about this, is that it doesn’t solve any problems. Their ‘problem’ was that you can only have 9999 of a username and usernames are difficult to remember with the 4 digit code. However now, you can only have 1 of each username and if you want the same one you need to basically type the code yourself; if Mike is already taken, you can’t also be Mike, you have to be Mike2, or MikeH, or Mike0, so common usernames will still be very complicated as people end up needing to have their username be MikeA2753. Secondly, now you can try to message anyone, just message a random, but common, username and then you have someone, before you had to know their username and the 4 digit code, which almost added a layer of security, as people need the correct code to add you. The 4 digit code didn’t make anything difficult either because most of the time you will either be adding your friend or someone from a server you’re in, in the first case, they can easily just show you the code or even write it down for you, and in the second you don’t even need to remember it. So there wasn’t any actual problem to begin with, and all this has done is cause more problems.
Yeah the privacy aspect and the fact that you’ll probably just have to just graft the discriminator onto your real username are two of my biggest gripes with the new system that I feel like don’t get talked about nearly as much as they should
I always see Discord's argument being cited as the tags being "too hard to memorize" except what if there was a way to send your username+tag to someone without memorizing it maybe by clicking a single button to be able to send it.. almost like a copy button for your account? nah, that would never work, it's simply not something that can be done except it is literally already a thing, and the above was pure sarcasm and loathing hell, I have my tag memorized and I use the copy feature because I'm lazy
@@rydergolde3169 how are you going to send someone a discord handle if they can't receive it because they don't have discord? Or are you saying that users should install another chat application in order to receive your nickname on discord? Do you realize how ridiculous you are?
A part of me wants to see the blackmarket for usernames become so big it becomes bad PR (well, worse than Discord will tolerate) so they'd actually revert this.
@@DestopLine "Public Relationships", the department in any company that deals with the press, media and so on. When we talk about good or bad PR, we're talking about the public reputation (same letters but not the real meaning).
As a person who was regularly stalked in the past, I LOVE the number system at the end of discord tags. You can't easily search me up without them. But now.. you can. And I'm scared of that person seeking me out again.
I can almost guarantee this is just being done because the developers are trying to make themselves look good for investors. There's no chance they actually care about the user experience at this point
One of the things that really upset me about this was them changing it to "older accounts get first dibs" to nitro users getting first pick I can understand having staff a chance to pick first or even discord partners given the importance of having specific user names but older accounts should have priority. Imagine being on discord for 6 years and losing your username because someone with a month old nitro account stole it first....
yes I agree! imagine how that'd be even presented within the Discord program. imagine it just randomly force restarts one day and... "a new feature has joined Discord. (patchnote video) you can't send a message or use this account again until you pick a new username. also your current name is taken! super exciting new feature right?"
I get the disappointment for that, but think about the other way around too. Imagine having nitro for a long time (I've paid for two full years now, hundreds of euros) only to have someone get dibs first cause their account is a bit older
that's not how it works the said they would do year by year alternating between nitro and non nitro. e.g. 2015 nitro accounts then 2015 free accounts then 2016 nitro etc.
My biggest issue is, of course, me not getting my name because it isn't rare, but my second biggest issue is what someone pointed out either on reddit or on one of the other NTTS videos: Discriminators kind of existed before already, we would add random numbers do our names until we found a combination that was available, discord made that system much cleaner by allowing most of us to remove such numbers and instead we had discriminators. Now all that chaos will start again. Also I liked the @ at the beginning of the name, and I loved that you could use more than just lowercase and some special characters. Discord is just speedrunning to become hated by everyone that once supported them.
I have no idea how this is going to work. They're changing a very fundamental part of the service, possibly breaking it. I hope this either doesn't go through, or it instantly fails so badly that Discord actually reverts it. Four-digit tags are probably one of the most recognizable and important features. If it's going to be changed, it should at least be very successful and make it seem like there was never a system in place. It wouldn't even make sense to have those kinds of usernames that Twitter has, because Discord is not like Twitter. Since it has you join servers to connect with people, there's a lot more secrecy. You can make a private server that only certain friends can join, or that nobody can. Discord is only from your perspective, which is why they allowed 9,999 people to have the same username, just with different tags. Twitter, however, as well as other social media, is from the entire world's perspective, and anyone can see the stupid things you posted 4 years ago, unlike on Discord, where only some people can. All I'm saying is, Discord's old username system fits considering what kind of social media it is, and changing it could take away a part of their identity.
That's definitely what I'm most upset about. If I walk around with a #4267 or whatever after my username, most people who use discord will instantly recognize that as a discord username they can add and shittalk. Sort of how (primarily) if you saw an @ before a username you knew it was a twitter handle. It's a brand recognition thing, and they're shooting themselves in the foot in a number of ways by removing it.
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 Discord is full of amazing communities and Roblox is full of amazing developers who might've never touched unity or unreal engine
@@headcrab4 Yup. My old art all uses my discord discriminator as a watermark because it's very recognizable as a Discord name. Now it's a gamble on if someone will find my actual account or just a random user named 'Xecular" on another platform. This really is just a clone of Roblox's mistake with display names that lead to widespread impersonation and confusion
@BlackLivesMatter you do know that roblox gives a platform to countless incredibly talented developers and allows them to host their games without server or publishing fees? besides theyve definitely improved somewhat recently, still mediocre but not bad enough to be shutdown also just because a games on roblox doesnt make it not a real game
It's honestly funny how almost every single tech startup that has a genuinely good product for the niche they are filling eventually waters down and turns that product into the precise thing that a majority of people who used it don't want.
This update reasoning to make the usernames 'easier to remember' is so strange to me, because people whose previous name was like Cherry#1543 will now have to name themselves cherry.1_0 or some other meaningless symbols and that to me is way more confusing and harder to remember than a 4 number discriminator
Is one of their arguments really "If there are already 9999 *username* taken you can't have it" and make it worse by making it so only one person can have their username 💀
In the game, Splatoon, because there's no lobby chat, People put their discord username on their splat tag. Because it has the hashtag, everybody knows that's a discord name, and that person can be found online.
@alexthemovie2915you're such a fucking loser. Get lost 12 year old, don't you have homework to do? Is this really the best way to spend your limited hours on the internet before mommy and daddy take your phone for the night?
i hope discord keeps the username system what we have today (display name and usernames with tags) because it is something between both and im really fine with that
I remember when the biggest selling feature for nitro back in the day was custom identifiers. I wonder if they will do something to replace that feature that I’m guessing will go away
One of the reasons I liked discord so much, was _because_ I didnt need to have a unique user name. It was the most accsessable username moddle that my dysleix didnt get in the way of. I can just remeber the base name and not stupid extra words.
honestly i'm not dysleix neither but that's so annoying on twitter and instagram... forced to triple check everytime you type a username so you don't misspell it
Never forget that, when experts warned Discord that their "inclusive" new color scheme would make the platform harder to use for visually impaired users, Discord's response was to claim the experts were wrong and continue spewing misleading information about how great their new theming was for the same disabled users they are screwing over.
I am convinced that Discord just wants less users or something because they're going to lose a lot of their userbase- not just because of backlash from the entire community but also because there aren't enough combinations of letters and characters to support the current userbase
There's one other kind of thing I think you're missing. Now with discriminators being removed, it means that if your username is simple enough, expect A LOT more bot and scam DMs if they are open. When I used Fish as a username, it meant that even if you knew my name was Fish and wanted to send me a mean comment, you had a 1/10000 chance of bothering me instead of someone else. Obviously scam bots are gonna be sending you scam tactics, so you can expect a nice and fun 500% increase in seeing those!
@titledgoose866 I shouldn't have to. If someone in a server I'm in needs to talk to me, I don't want to have to accept a friend request. It'd also help for if one of my friends makes a new account and needs to say "hey, it's me!"
The biggest issue to me is also security: for me, a way to make sure not just anyone could add me on Discord was that this number was sort of secret to people that I don't share a Discord server with (and a lot of users aren't really active on servers). This way only people could add me who I gave this 4 digit number. Even if I get to keep my name on Discord, now random people and scammers can add me just by seeing my name on the internet.
MOST people remember their discrims. If the people at discord cant remember FOUR NUMBERS but can remember their PHONE NUMBERS (a 10 digit number) then THEY are the ones with the problem.
guarantee they went through all twelve years of public school needing their school-bus number written on their hand to remember which bus they were supposed to get on.
@@baronfuath5872 ah yes I need to write number one me To find and get on a giant yellow twinkle Side note: I knew the number back when i was in school to get on the school Bus but you can ignore this if you don't care
Plus, their another reason behind the change, is that when adding people, it's case sensitive and symbol sensitive. remembering the 4 numbers is easy, but god knows how much people likes to use weird symbols such as "0 width space" or those fancy letters. They justify the reasons behind the change because of those cases, but people often refer to the 4 digit denominator. BUT THERE'S THIS THING CALLED AN INVITE LINK???? IF THE PROBLEM IS ABOUT TELLING YOUR IRL FRIENDS YOUR DISCORD ACCOUNT, YOU'LL JUST BE SENDING THEM YOUR INVITE LINK???? YOU'RE NOT GONNA SAY "capital X lowercase killer capital double X" TO THEM???? OH WAIT, THEY REMOVED THE INVITE LINK FEATURE JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, IT DOESN'T APPEAR APPARENTLY WHEN YOU OPEN THE FRIENDS TAB. SO THEY'RE JUST DUMB?????
They claim that this is simpler because of other social media sites, yet not one thought went through their minds that this has been happening on these sites for ages
I hate this handle system because recently youtube adopted it but at least it's an EXTRA feature whereas discord just killed an important functionality with this. the fact they give display usernames is like changing my nickname in each server.
And they never considered that Discord is a messaging app which is fairly different from a social media site, and where the ease of finding people that’s useful on social media sites might not even be a desirable feature at all on Discord, let alone more desirable than having the username you want
@@XBGamerX20 They killed no functionality at all. The only thing they did was make usernames easier to type and made discriminators optional instead of forcing them on you. The rest is the same as before. What used to be your username is now called a Display Name. What used to be your discriminator is now your username. In effect, nothing changed. Yet people are mad as if they lost anything.
@@SlushieDee And you never considered that maybe Discord wants to be more than just a messaging app? Since they added threads, it seems more and more like it's rivaling message boards, which also have the normal identifier system like every other messaging app on earth. Skype has it, Teams, WhatsApp, Email, etc. None of these apps forces discriminators on you. Discord used to be the odd one out.
That @ sign was actually somewhat useful, made people realize you can use the @username to specifically talk to them on servers Oh and, I was kinda bummed about the loss of # numbers I (through nitro) changed my # number to be # 4343, and it was kinda neat
This is actually a huge privacy concern, now people can literally have just random usernames generated and that's it, no need to also match usernames to discriminators... Discord doesn't really know what they are doing.
@@lgasc no, I think they mean contacting people. Before, if you wanted to spam a "Mike", you'd need to know their random #. Now, its just "Mike", or "ian". No need to guess their code.
@@mickys8065 exactly. All you need is for someone to create a bot and you can automatically dm everyone your spam in minutes rather than days because you get to have a simpler script to run
I wouldn’t really call it the “vocal minority” The website has a lot less reach then the actual consensus of people. So yea there are only 11,000 on the website but there is probably many more then that. Also I haven’t seen anyone opposed to discriminators so does it really make sense to call us the minority when most people are neutral or on our side
considering i don't even know how to get there and I'd probably have to sign into an account to voice my opinion and all that, yea, that website does not have any real reach at all. And discord is so against using their purpose built client to actually check people's minds aren't they? They're fine with sending a annoying update log only... 6 percent of the time but not informing people and letting them vocalize their thoughts anywhere.
For anyone thinking Discord will listen. It'll be another RU-vid with the dislikes situation; Remove Dislikes (To much Backlash) >> Ignore it until people stop complaining
@@Carahato True, I mean they have a large share of the potential market I suppose. But things like Guilded and Teamspeak are still around and available just less mainstream than Discord is/has become.
It's too bad they dont let us use # as a special character cause I just would find it funny as shit if people made their username the exact same as before.
Gotta put that Clyde AI trained with user messages to good use. And I know Discord staff has said they didn't use user messages to train their bots, but after enough conversation with Clyde I've come to the conclusion that's a shameless lie. The bot knows about topics that have been discussed only in private servers. There's no way those conversations would be out there somewhere else, they had to give it access to the chatlogs in the platform for the bot to know all of those details.
@@TheDragShotthey have used user messages, they updated their tos and if you hadnt disabled a certain setting in the privacy category it would feed all of your messages to the ai
@@TheDragShot I see, and also, most of their responses in Play Store or Support... Feels like not a "genuine conversation" but more like an AI is trying to help you (I know they did fix my issue about like my account got locked by 2FA by resetting my password or smth, but the conversation i've had with them was like an AI is helping rather.)
I love Linus but if he thought for a couple seconds longer he probably would have realised that while which character you use is somewhat arbitrary, having something there is a very useful tool to distinguish that this is a username. Additionally the @ symbol works well with the existing mention system making it basically not arbitrary at all.
Admittedly, thats true but theres undoubtedly a better system, maybe just have it as 'username AS displayname' or something, because the @ is still just a little gross for most people who have rightfully started viewing twitter as gross.
If you stopped to think you'd realize that the feature of the @ symbol already present in discord would functionally clash with an @ symbol forced at the start of the name. Trying to tag somebody with the display name "Ian" if they're not the twat referred to in the video who's taken "ian" as a username then we're now in the crossroads of "did we mean to ping the guy with the display name "Ian" in this discord, or are we posting the username for a shitty staff member? Since the "@" already serves a different purpose, using it anywhere else will cause problems.
Calling it a "vocal minority" has gotta be incorrect. I have not seen a single person in support or even neutral about these changes out of the 32 servers im in. Discord is literally shooting themself in the chest with these changes
The vocal minority, as in in the feedback page. Only 3K people.. out of idk... millions... actually went up to the feedback page and started telling Discord not to implement this feature.
the problem here is that there's a LOT of "dead" accounts : students who made one to join a class server during lockdown, people who stopped using discord, people who just didn't like discord and never went back on it without deleting their account, unused alt accounts for recovery purposes or simply unused alt accounts... Also there's a lot of people who are not even aware of the change yet because they don't watch NTTS and disabled discord emails So if we counted only active discord users, I'm pretty sure most of them are against this update, however the line between "active" and "dead" account is too blurry to legitimately count this way and discord has no interest in proving themselves wrong, so they count the millions of accounts created no matter who are behind and that's a big enough number to make the vocal a minority :')
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 When's the last time you deleted an old account for a service you don't use? Also some people does not a majority make. I don't know about the dead accounts thing (which tbh probably has at least some merit to it) but the idea that you can gauge the community's response to this rollout based on one support page that no one uses is stupid. I've been a Discord user for a very long time now and a nitro subscriber for about 2 years and have been to that website maybe twice.
And? These people are responsible for keeping Discord running as a service. Without them there'd be no Discord for people to use, ofcourse they get first dibs over anyone else. Plus you can trust them better than anyone else to not break ToS by account selling. I'm not a fan of the new system, but complaining about staff getting it first makes no sense
@@bulletnotloaded3586 "Why would we need to trust them if this new system is so much better". The fact they knew they would get issues from this new system, and still go along with it is a huge problem.
@@bulletnotloaded3586 "you can trust them better than anyone else to not break ToS by account selling." Or, alternatively, just don't make a system that encourages account selling... like, forexample, allow multiple people to have the same username... hear me out. They could program it so that everyone get a four number identifier with their username, that way, a "rare valuable" username would lose all value because you could literally make 9999 copies of it.... I know it's an original idea that's never been done before, but I think it could work!
This makes me so angry, mostly because I've always had a problem with these types of usernames. For me I need a clean username, MY username that I personally identify with. Having that yoinked from me hurts and makes me feel a bit sad. Not sure how to explain it, but this will be effecting me in a bad way thats for sure. Edit: My name is on the blacklist, amazing.
Funny how Discord refuses to just simply add letters to the tags. With the english alphabet consisting of 26 letters + the 10 numbers we would literally get 36^4 possible outcomes per nickname (correct me if I'm wrong) (that's about 1.7 million). I believe if anything the new display name system is great. The impersonation issue could easily be patched by allowing the tag nicknames to have standard english alphabet letters only. And boom, you easily fixed your old system without annoying the community.
and even if you don't wanna use letters cause it could be annoying, it takes infinitely less brain power to think "oh if we're running out of discriminators just add another number" (ex: name#86383) than "oh we're running out of discriminators let's just make it so only one person gets the name" ..like honestly how drunk are they?
@@chickennugget6684 Unfortunately it seems that they think the display name system will coverup the old problem. Funny how they say 9k names is too little so they make it 1 only
Honestly! I feel like there would be a little bit of backlash if they added letters (if they hadn't mentioned the new username system), but not NEARLY as much as what they're doing now
@@kneelessnightcat9164 right? With letters added they'd just get even more money! And they could even make it so that letters only start to appear once the 9999 numbers have already been picked, if they are *really* worried
It really upsets me that some usernames are claimed by "companies", my user was Meta for a long time and since facebook for some reason decided to change that now I cant have my name anymore, pretty cool right
The funny part about the new badge is that since it's the one badge on which you might have custom text and it will become impossible to obtain in the future is that it creates a new black market where current usernames will be sold to get the new badge
Kinda disingenuous to call it a vocal minority when you can compare it to most other community posts that have significantly less. If anything it just shows that people don't often use the community feedback page. The video itself is great, that bit just kinda bugged me. (if anyone's curious, checking the feedback page the username post is number 6 of all posts, with 4 of the 5 above it having been completed, and all of them being over 5 years old compared to this being a couple weeks. Also worth noting that the lowest ranked post of all time is one asking to remove the discriminator from 4 years ago)
If they wanted to prevent common 4 letter usernames from getting all taken, why didn't they just make a minimum character limit dor future accounts? Thats much easier to do, and wouldn't have nearly the same amount of backlash.
Good idea... I guess I'll have to come up with other cool usernames just incase my current one doesn't work out. I'll still be salty if I can't use it tho 😞
the numbers are what made discord unique and better from all the other messaging platforms and for discord to take it away is horrible so i hope they listen and revert the change.
I love how they claim "hard to remember", when discord itself shows it, you can freaking look it up. If you can look something up, in like 15 seconds, why does one need to memorize it? I better keep my current name on Discord, as I do not want to have to make it look weird, just because someone else snitched it.
Someone once offered me 150$ for my account that had a 3-month boosting streak. Like fam, just buy nitro yourself and wait 3 months and then you have it for 30$ smh.
@@meraak2425 Oh, you mean it would show the staff clearly and obviously why the new system should not have ever made it to the release build of Discord? Funny that.
I threaten to bomb Blizzard, Microsoft and any other major corporations anytime I am slightly inconvenienced for monetary gain. (Such as a PC self destructing with each update slowly eating it into nothing after a new one released.) For Blizzard, competitive matchmaking makes people into monsters.
honestly death threats are something you should consider fake unless actual evidence is posted, because simply saying death threats happened is some of the easiest emotional manipulation someone online can do, and not enough people actually question it.
aw man, i really liked the # and numbers on usernames, i like the point you made where the @-less username looks weird because the symbols were very easy and quick to make a user stand out compared to a nickname. i'm going to miss my 4 random numbers that were assigned to me several years ago
It gets even worse when you realize that they pushed it out in waves completely ignoring the “priority” they promised with nitro, at the time i had nitro for well over a year and my friend whos account has never had nitro was able to switch name systems before me
I'll bet money that discord got an National Security Letter after the last "leak" that basically told them "our algorythim needs consistent username handles. Impliment consistent username handles," and they are forced by law to oblige.
if they could just allow the # in the new naming system, they could just migrate all usernames to the new system and give people freedom to change their names and remove the discriminator if they wish too.
This was planned from most likely a year ago. This was something they weren't going to revert. But after a while it'll be ingrained to users and they'll move on like usual
@@OnlyTakingBuckets With the established userbase now and the fact some Discord servers are making money through the subscription feature, Guilded doesn't have anyway of making money for now, and it's hard to move 150 million active users to another platform
Companies mistake *people feeling defeated and making do since we ultimately get what we are given* for "everyone hates change but they eventually like it given enough time trying it" There is a clear difference here, in that one of these two things results in people slowly turning cold to a platform and looking elsewhere in case someday a better alternative comes
If they are doing this because some names are reaching their limit(lets just assume they are) then a much easier way to prevent that would've been letting people use alphabets in their # like riot games does, then you can have a crazy lot more combinations which I find hard to believe you would ever run out of. Straight up removing the # and converting discord like any other cringe social media is outright disappointing.
That's still a dumb reason though. "Oh no, 9 999 people have the same username, and our system doesn't allow the 10 000th person to get that name! Lets make it so that only ONE person can use that name and take it away from 9 998 people."
to be honest in my humble opinion discord could use a Unique Identifier, which means each user could be assigned a unique alphanumeric identifier that is not visible to others, but serves as a technical necessity. This would eliminate issues with username squatting and the complexity of discriminators. This UID would also remain static, facilitating the process of friend requests and ensuring that third-party services can easily identify users.
They... already have that. They always had. These IDs are long numbers, like those used in channels and messages, and you can copy them by enabling developer tools, right-clicking someone's name and choosing "Copy ID".
Respectfully, you’re wrong about the feedback post being a vocal “minority.” The post you referenced is currently the 2nd most upvoted forum on the entire discord support site. Additionally, not every Discord user is aware or even bothers with the feedback posts. The fact is rose to #2 in a couple weeks is nothing short of impressive. Please don’t spread misinformation that only a small group of people are upset about the change.
Yeah, I agree with NTTS right here. It IS a minority compared to the size of Discord. 11,000 / 50 million, is truly nothing, there really no debate on what's a minority
@@RowBr0 a minority compared to what though? Are you saying 299 million Discord users all voted and agreed for the change? Differing opinions is fine but I like to avoid generalizations of “only a small people support” or “99% of discord likes it.” Without actual data from every discord user we can only go off the data we have which are comments, votes, etc.
Interesting fact about the possible scenarios Discord came up with, they already have a solution for that built into their mobile app with Nearby scanning. So that blows their own argument clean out of the water. They really should focus more on the underlying issues that their app already has instead of adding this new, arbitrary system.(I.e. fixing screenshare on their Linux client)
