I believe Apollo's voice actor is prolific cartoon actor Jeff Bennett, he's probably best known as Johnny Bravo, but he's done a TON of work. And I can say anecdotally that his villain voices have been mistaken for Tim Curry in the past.
Some friends and I took a stab at identifying the whole cast. We didn't get absolutely everyone and since we're amateurs do not take this as gospel, but it's what makes most sense to us. We're pretty sure they did this on the cheap and reused the same actors a lot. Side note: While the copyright says 1993 I kinda get the feeling this was produced a little earlier than that. I dunno, something about this just seems REALLY 80s. Also I used the Japanese names mostly cuz that's how I know them. Seiya: We think this is actually Jeff Bennett. He voiced Johnny Cage in "Mortal Kombat: The Journey Begins" with pretty much this exact voice and we know he's Apollo. Shiryu: Jerry Houser, his role as Sandstorm from Transformers G1 is identical. He does resemble Frank so easy mistake. He's also the criminal stopped by Ikki. Hyoga: Probably an actor named Danny Mann. He's a little hard to pin down with the accent, but we're pretty sure he's Ikki's master and Hyoga is about the only role left for him besides that. Shun: Rob Paulsen, so right that it was a ninja turtle, but not Cam. Ikki: Jim Cummings Saori: While we aren't 100% on this, we think Susan Blu is a good candidate. She also voice directed for a lot of shows, so from a business perspective it would make sense to hire her to direct and voice all the women. Apollo/The Pope: Jeff Bennett Taurus Aldebaran: Jim Cummings Eagle Marin: The same VA as Saori. Tatsumi: Jim Cummings Libra Dohko: Probably Rob again. Ikki's Master: Danny Mann
It really is his infamous Curry sound-alike voice from Food Fight. That said though, Bennett is a legend. EDIT: There was a part during the Genesis chapter where he sounds a lot like Bennett's performances as Dexter's Dad from Dexter Lab and Kowalski from Penguins of Madagascar, so I'm certain it is him.
@@abbynormal2419 Agree with all but I don't think Nova is Susan Blu; she has a very particular sort of tone that I'm not hearing in any lines in this piece. My guess is Renae Jacobs, the April O'Neal of TMNT 87.
Saint Seiya fans anywhere in the world will be FOREVER grateful to you, for your research and for your work in sharing this information with us. I hope it was fun for you to do it. I send you a hug and my respects, Ray! ((PS: I stopped the video to write to you. Now I will continue and enjoy every minute.))
Thank you for your hard work Miss Mona. Saint Seiya is a franchise dear and near to the hearts of a lot of people around the world. Thanks for bringing to light this lost project in our beloved franchise.
I wish Ray could just get everything related to Renaissance Atlantic from the National Library of Congress. I feel that there are more hidden gems, that‘ll never be uncovered
And all of this appears before a new westernized adaptation of this franchise can have it's debut. Congratulations Miss Mona, you managed to write history and bring light on an curious jewel of anime, ignored by the anglosphere for so much time and also got the atention of the latin world who still remember Saint Seiya as a classic.
Absolutely amazing job not only finding this gem, but also with the research and presentation! As a life long SS fan it's incredible to see stuff like this 30 years after it was created, you are truly the Indiana Jones of anime relics!
Thanks for for finding the lost Saint Seiya cartoon Ray Mona. Ray deserves way more subscribers for the in-depth they do for their lost media work and quality videos.
¡Gracias! Ray Mona, Esto es oro para toda la comunidad de Saint Seiya México y Sudamérica, en estos momentos eres tendencia en muchos canales en español y grupos que son fans de Saint Seiya aqui en Latinoamerica. Pensé que aquí terminaba todo, pero estaremos ansiosos por ver el resultado final en tu tercera parte. Saludos desde México 🫶💙
Una vez más te doy las gracias por esta enorme contribución para el fandom de Saint Seiya. Esta pieza de Lost Media es solo otra muestra de la importancia que a tenido este producto y como se a intentado adaptar muchas veces al público occidental sin éxito. De verdad muchas gracias, te mando un saludo desde México.
Incredible, the Americanized Saint Seiya's pilot has finally seen the light of day thanks to you, Ray. The pilot is pretty good, and the cheesy "SatAM" treatment worked complements the Saint Seiya mythos quite well. Had it become a formal series, as a 5 year old I would have watched this back to back with the original anime.
I literally was chopping a lime whilst thinking about part 2, thinking "when would this drop?" Lo and behold, upon sitting down with a bowl of chips with hot sauce and lime... this was ready! Thanks for everything that you do! ❤
Your work on this continues to be appreciated, just to show people how different things were back then. It’s like explaining Blockbuster to the streaming generation. “You see, in the dark days before simulcasts and compilation movies getting into US theaters, cartoons aired in syndication, and were subject to very restrictive guidelines.”
I would've watched the hell out of this as a kid. Also that's DEFINITELY Jeff Bennet, the mystery voice you can't place. You'd most likely know him as Johnny Bravo, but he's actually way more prolific than that. Most of the other voices are indeed from Ninja Turtles.
Bandai had a website in 1993?!? That's crazy! 😂 Great way to start the video, BTW. I laughed so hard at the names of the bronze boys in the commercial that I seriously though they were made up as a joke, so imagine my surprise when I heard those names in the actual episode!
"If I didn't need my clothes and gear I'd cram this bag down your throat." Absolutely fantastic line. Honestly this pilot was incredible and you did an amazing job with finding what you could!!
Ray, you should be so so proud of your accomplishments. This is a huge discovery and I’m so sure we’ll get more information someday. Side note: The duffel bag scene has to be the funniest scene. The delivery of the lines are insanely serious yet so funny. “You guys better drop my duffel bag before I drop you in your tracks.” *ROCK MUSIC* “REALLY…?” It’s peak 90s cartoon and I’m obsessed, I need 50 more episodes of this show. 😂
Thank you for the research and hard work you put into this video, i wouldn't never know that my favorite anime had an American version and also thank you for sharing the pilot episode.
I'm in agreement that it was Jeff Bennet who voiced Apollo. The peculiar way he shouts "No" was what convinced me, for a better comparison listen to him when he voiced The Joker in Batman Brave and the Bold.
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Thank you very much for this second part. They noticed that the Dragon Clint (Shiryu) uses the Andromeda Chain at minute 45:59
This is so mind blowing! Just think we almost got a version of Saint seiya developed by the same studio that did ninja turtles. Of course there's quite a shock to see such a different version of the characters that are ingrained in my mind since childhood but the show had quality animation and voice acting. However it's so baffling to see the concepts translated to fit American culture. Like in the original version the characters powers are deeply rooted in spirituality and martial arts, and here they basically manifest like mutant powers in X-Men. Also how sanitized was everything: not only violence but any controversial themes, like all of the guardians masters were nice people (unlike the Japanese version, were the Pheonix's master is a complete psycho that even murdered his own daughter). Also how much they brought up Saori(,Nova) PAID for their training, or how much of the city which seems to be futuristic we get to see. Those two elements are completely new and entirely absent from the original manga and feels very much the work of American writers😅 . But all in all I can see a lot of similarities between tmnt, and very much how they made those gritty and violent original comics into a family friendly Saturday morning cartoon. I am not gonna lie if I had caught this on tv at that age I totally would have watched, and probably wanted the toys too. However, the original Saint Seiya made such an impact on me that it completely changed my perception of cartoons and comics could be, the dramatic storytelling shaped my instincts for being a comics artist and a writer myself, the art style drove to try actively trying mimick it and that's probably my very first step into becoming a real artist,not just a kid drawing whatever he liked a that time. All in all, what I am trying to get at here: the American version was a fine attempt and it probably could have been successful, but hardly the level of success the original got and certainly not the timeless classic it became in Japan,China,South America and Europe.
Oh MY. This story is just getting wilder and wilder! Btw for reference Jeffrey Scott (who is credited in the pilot too) was actually responsible for the adaptation to television of the original Muppet Babies cartoon and he wrote the first two seasons and a bit into the third single-handedly! There’s also a Three Stooges connection that you might know about if you read his book “How to Write for Animation”. He even gets into the weeds on topics that might be interesting to you! I’m looking forward to seeing where this goes for sure! Very interesting stuff, to be sure!
Coming from someone with virtually no knowledge of the Saint Seiya franchise (only seeing it from afar online over the years), i really enjoyed that pilot episode more than i thought i would. I probably would have totally enjoyed the hypothetical series if it had actually been made in the 90s. The dialogue interactions and performances are what really sell it for me i think. Thank you so much for all the work you've been doing. Really enjoying seeing these "what-if" series' history.
This Americanized pilot is surprisingly well done for what they had and I won’t lie that the characters were pretty fun despite the cheesy dialogue. It’s definitely a shame Guardians of the Cosmos was canceled but I’m glad it’s out here for the rest of us to see. It’s always a treat everytime you post and this video is no exception. I can’t begin to imagine about how much work you put into these videos but they absolutely pay off. Absolutely incredible work ❤
I'm a brazzilian fan of saint seiya for about 25 years. it is absolutely wonderful to learn new things about the series in a investigation so well done like that. thank you.❤❤❤
Increíble trabajo. Felicidades, en verdad se nota la pasión y el amor que das a este proyecto. Y los fans de Saint Seiya te agradecemos por siempre. estaré esperando con muchas ganas la parte 3. Saludos desde México.
I’m always in awe of how in-depth your research is. Your Sailor Moon videos were nothing short of astounding but this? Given how little impact Saint Seiya had in the anglosphere, that you would to such lengths to uncover so much? It’s truly amazing! I wish you nothing but continued success in this series :)
You’re amazing Mona. The live action movie is coming out in a month here in the US. Saint Seiya RU-vidrs giving you props is what brought me here. I never understood why Saint Seiya failed here
While I had never heard about this series,your documentaries really made me appreciate animation as a whole even the unsuccessful attempts.Keep rocking!
Pretty nice from you to share this to the saint seiya fans around the world. Thank you Mona! Hope to see more interesting videos from you. Greetings from Peru
Only 20mins in and I'm already amazed at this adaption. Need some snacks to finish 😩🙏 Saint Seiya is so beautiful and is a dear favourite from my childhood. Just like Pokèmon, Yu-Gi-Oh etc. I had no idea they were Anime until I got older 😅😅😅 Seiya was different. I was obsessed with it and still am just like Sailor Moon 😇😎💫 Thankyou, Ray ❤
Have I ever imagined what Saint Seiya would be like if it were an American cartoon? Yes, I have. However, I never thought that such a cartoon actually existed until now. It's incredible! I can't believe I lived to see Guardians of the Cosmos. Thank you, Ray Mona, for kindly sharing this amazing discovery with us.
¡Wow!, Eres simplemente sorprendente. Te lo escribo en español para que veas el alcance que tu investigación tendrá. Excelente trabajo y el piloto no fue tan aburrido como lo esperaba.
Is no one gonna talk about how the boys were literally shirtless?.. For almost half the pilot??😳 Sorry please ignore me! I live for lost media. I praise you For taking so much of your time to provide quality content for us. Your work definitely does not go unnoticed!
Oh, my God!! You put the full pilot episode!! I assure you that there is more than one in the fandom will have a heart attack for happiness. You have made history!! By the way, I liked it. It was entertaining, different and striking. It is a huge shame that the project has not progressed. I would have been a big fan of GotC
I'm sure a few people have probably already picked up on this, but I'm pretty sure Clint and one of the muggers' voices were provided by actor/voice actor, Jerry Houser. He's got a pretty distinctive voice. The work you put into these videos is incredible. Excellently done!👏👏👏👏
Little by little you become the queen of the lost media findings. I discovered you with the lost media girly games, never thinking you would search for something ss related, heck, nobody even knew about the cartoon. You style of documentary, your narration, your documentation, all of that is perfect and I love it.
49:05 Ah, yes. I remember when Seiya's Meteor Punch consisted of a wave of... psychic energy, I guess? Those were certainly the days. Also, shoutouts to Max for providing the puns during the fight. What good, cheesy action cartoon doesn't have gnarly puns during fights?
Ray Mona, you’re the reason that I have a passion for wanting to become an archivist for the film industry as you’re videos are so well made and intricately detailed on your research.
Another amazing find. I don’t even know why I’m shocked you managed to find something else that people thought might it have existed. It literally feels like watching someone solve countless historical mysteries. I quite literally have no idea what to say other than you have done what, to my knowledge, no one else in the community has ever done. You’ve discovered more pieces of lost media than I thought possible, and all within an extremely short time. Your dedication is insane and I cannot wait to see what you put your mind to next.
Classic 90s cartoons ❤ I’m Colombian 🇨🇴 and I can say that the Japanese version is more dramatic and the American version is more 90s ninja turtles, Captain planet, G.I. Joe, Silverhawks, thunderCats etc… I kind of like it I’m not going to lie! What happen America ?
Once again, great investigative work Raven! Btw the taxi driver and the redhead biker punk are definitely voiced by Charlie Adler. I can recognize his voice from anywhere. And hopefully you’ll come across StarStorm at some point :)
You are like the only miner in this vein of straight absolute gold, keep up the good work, you have my support forever, when I saw part 1, I have only seen a handful of Saint Seiya, but since then, I've watched the entire series, and really exvited for the LA film, thank you so much for your hard work
"THOSE BIKERS WE'RE SUPPOSE TO FOLLOW THEM NOT FIGHT THEM" I laughed at that line. The pure disgust in his voice at how easily those bikers we're foiled in less then a minute.
This is one of the coolest and funniest Saint Seiya related material I've ever seen in my nearly two decades of undying love for this franchise! I think I'm speechless... And also immensely happy and grateful for your hard work, you always display a stellar quality in search and presentation. A very important piece of midia for our community. Muito obrigado ❤🇧🇷
Greetings from Brazil to you all. The americans weren't lucky with the Knights of the Zodiac (Saint Seiya), the original anime was already very well known here in Latin America since the beginning of the 90's (and even more so in certain continents in the 80's, as in France). Even so, it's great to hear about these bizarre discoveries nowadays. Congratulations on your research, Mona.
Oh I'm a few days late to watching this, but I just wanted to say this is invaliable work. Going through the effort of rescuing these obscure memories and media for posterity is protecting the culture of the time they were made in, how countries overseas interacted and shared stories and who was responsible for this cultural exchange. This is the kind of thing historians do for ancient civilizations, and I'm sure a professor 1200 years from now is very thankful for your work.
Fantastic episode. And yeah, I probably would have watched this adaptation as well. That was surprisingly well-made for the era. I am completely in awe of your patience and determination in finding these lost media treasures as well as unearthing things we never expected. Keep up the great work, and I'll continue to tune in to everything that you do.
Can you imagine in the alternate timeline that we got Saban Moon and the American cartoon version of Saint Seiya that they actually somehow crossover both shows (but you know more on the animation side then the dual live action and animation combo that Saban Moon was gonna be?. Like I can literally see them attempting to make Saint Seiya's americanized rip off crossing over with Saban Moon and both becoming part of their own Cinematic/Animated Universe and then maybe they would take another similar anime (Voltron or Ronin Warriors) and just flesh out this entirely weird animated/cinematic universe. Now I wish all of that wouldv'e happened.
This is fantastic! Wish there was some sort of lost media Oscar’s or something you could win. Guardians looks like something I would have loved as a kid. That riff will be in my head all day now.
I didn't knew this channel, but your discovery is making it's rounds across every Saint Seiya forum regardless of language and just wanted to say: this is AMAZING! Much love and greetings from Venezuela!
Muchísimas gracias por haber realizado esta investigación y compartirnos tus hallazgos así como el episodio. En mi opinión, para 1993 Saint Seiya ya estaba muy bien posicionado en Europa y algunos países de latinoamericana, tal vez dejaron el proyecto inconcluso por el alto riesgo al tratar de exportarlo. Saint Seiya debutó en 1986, tal vez si este episodio piloto hubiera salido en 1990, otra historia se estaría contando.
Me intriga que el copyright de este piloto sea de 1993, no sé en qué año llegó Saint Seiya a Latino América, sé que en Europa llegó a fines de los 80s. Me pregunto si se hubiese aprobado este proyecto nos habría llegado este dibujo animado antes o después del anime, y una parte mía se imagina que si hubiese llegado después del anime si el reparto del doblaje del anime hubiesen repetido sus roles. Puedo imaginarme a Jesús Barrero como Zack
@@CiberOtakuSanctuary gracias por la información. Eso me hace pensar que esta versión podría haber sido exclusiva para Estados Unidos, Canadá e Inglaterra. No creo que Bandai haya querido que compitiese con el anime en otros mercados
@@pablocasas5906 según tengo entendido la serie llego a la región en el 92. Ahora sobre el escenario que planteas, en donde hubiese primero llegado la versión gringa en vez del anime, es algo factible, pero hubiese pasado algo similar con Street Fighter , en la que llegaron a la región distintas versiones de la obra (anime, live action y cartoon gringo) de manera simultánea.
Just want to say, thanks for doing these series. As someone who worked in Production, I see all the sides of a show and just how much love, sweat, and tears that go into one. I'm always listening to the stories of my coworkers, of the various shows and pilots they've worked on, many never getting to see the light of day. I'm still new to this compared to say, those who've been in the industry for 20+ years, still it warms my heart. Thank you, thank you!!
the plot of the pilot is a bit similar to one of the movies,except the villain is Abel. There is a movie with Apollo as a villain,but it ended on a cliffhanger that was never followed up due to it not performing well(it was supposed to be a trilogy of movies telling an arc,but it only got one.). The Next Dimension manga replaces this unfinished trilogy in the canon,being the direct sequel to the Hades arc and it's still ongoing
Just letting people know that yes, I saw 8:10 here. This is making me feel more proud that I found that Mario tape, seeing it referenced in other "Lost Media" videos like this.
Thank you so much for sharing the Guardians of the Cosmos pilot! It´s so cheesy but without a doubt a piece of important history for Saint Seiya as a whole.
oh man ... this is just incredible. This is a discovery that not only Saint Seiya but anime fans will be discussing FOREVER ! . Thanks thanks so much for your hard work. It really paid off! Maybe someday a lead on the live action, if it really exists, will surface, but Guardians is really a fantástic discovery
Seriously though, BANDAI probably had a big stock of Saint Cloth Series around this time, because the very next year (1994) in Brazil, the original anime was given for FREE to a TV station (Manchete) by the guy who had the rights to sell the figures so he could make a lot of money off of them, and it definitely worked! Now that we know that there were plans to bring this version of the story to the USA, and that the cloth/armor design they used is that of the previously mentioned action figures (as opposed to the designs used in the beginning of the story and the first toyline), I wonder if BANDAI had any involvement in these attempts to bring the series to new markets around that time.
Oh my God!! Incredible second part. I admire the dedication you put into each job, and the hours invested in gathering all the information possible despite the constant obstacles that appear. About the pilot... What can I say? It's horribly beautiful hahahaha, honestly I laughed a lot when I saw it. I can't wait to find out what progress you've had with StarStorm, I hope you have good luck. Greetings from Argentina!!!
What a banger of a documentary, I felt like I was going crazy when the opening for Guardians of the Cosmos went viral, even thought it had to be a fake because it was inconceivable that something like this would stay hidden. Amazing work in not only doing insane legwork but also putting all this info together, can't wait for the next part.
Thank you so much for making these videos! It's beyond impressive how much love and hard work you put in each one of this series. Saint Seiya has always had a precious space in my heart, even since I was little I remember my parents would talk to me about the series and my dad would even excitedly sing the Spanish OP (it's kinda cringey but charming, tbh) Knowing about this lost media material has been super exciting!
Thank you so much for uncovering this show's pilot and put it online. I like it, in some ways it's even better than its material source, although of course it's worse in other ways and being a pilot episode it had a lot of room for improvement. I think it had potential but may have suffered from "too little too late" syndrome. As you know there were a lot of American cartoon shows in the '80s and '90s with a similar premise.
I’m a Saint Seiya super fan. SuperSeiya was even my first dj name Thank you for bringing this to light Amazing work and loved the story telling Looking forward to more episodes and other lost media
It is insane to me that you don’t yet have millions of subscribers. You have made me so invested in topics that I had no awareness of previously. Your storytelling is so well done!
Esto es como hallar el santo grial. RAYMONA miles te estamos agradecidos! Thanks for all what u did to find this great piece of los art. Latinoamérica te está agradecida.
You have to forgive me for coming late to this premiere. So many good content to watch on this platform, but these docu's are always a welcome watch any day of the week. Will be watching as much as I can in spurts til' the end!
