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Discovering XIKERS - Tricky House (MV & Dance Practice) Reaction | Ermmm Issa no for me! 

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@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
OMFG I've just listened to Rockstar off camera and I enjoy it WAY more! The harmonies, the prechorus are amazing. I don't particularly love the chorus but I can tolerate it a lot more because of the bits I DO like! Great production in the verses too. I even like Oh My Gosh LOOOL, WTF. JOIN my Patreon for more exclusive content here: patreon.com/koko3op
@chels8412
@chels8412 Год назад
Yh Rockstar was really good but I agree with the chorus, my fave is xikey I love the switch up it's adorable🤭
@laurangome5016
@laurangome5016 Год назад
😂😂 like your post comments Rockstar is another title track the MV will come oht in the next days I think
@sheraTeez_GoldenHour
@sheraTeez_GoldenHour Год назад
Yesss .. are you watch the xikey yet ? It’s good 🤩
@shejma5724
@shejma5724 Год назад
you should make a video reaction for XIKEY live stage they are monsters of the stage even tho they just debuted
@sparkyboomboomboi7051
@sparkyboomboomboi7051 Год назад
Honestly I didn’t like trickyhouse at first but after over 30+ listens (from learning the dance etc) , it’s really grown on me loll. Idk if that’s a good or bad thing.
@alyyuyeu4525
@alyyuyeu4525 Год назад
Saying that they are like any group is most offensive, they only have one MV, they cannot give an opinion of the group with a single reference, they are not at all like Ateez and that is the point, the technique to attract attention is to give something striking, which is what people are looking for, then they will adjust their concept and show their voices more, but there is a lot of talent Yes, they used a different sound and did something very flashy with it, that's the point of a debut, don't make comparisons with groups that their songs are all the same with one that just started
@yamiiszn6
@yamiiszn6 3 месяца назад
I know you commented this a year ago now but I totally agree. When xikers first debuted, everybody was saying that they sound exactly like ateez but if xikers were under a different company, NOBODY would listen to their songs and think “oh, this sounds like something ateez would make!” It’s always so hard to find people who agree with me 😭
@mayadoulatram
@mayadoulatram Год назад
It’s so hard for me to be lured into something. But for a DEBUT MV, this IS fire.
@tiswhatitis
@tiswhatitis Год назад
I think it’s good quality noise music because they are clearly talented. The practice came out that long ago because they were still training and on like a “survival”-esque show and so they produced their music (with the help of Hoongjoong and other producers) months ago in order to gain popularity. Also did a lot of dance covers which are amazing because they are dancers. I really think these debut songs were made mostly to highlight their dance and performance quality. They are good singers and rappers if you watch them live and I’m sure whatever they have next will be different.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Agreed, lack of talent is definitely never the issue, it’s boy groups releasing performance type songs more than actual songs that are addictive and with great hooks. I’ll look forward to their other songs and hearing their singers!
@zr4664
@zr4664 Год назад
Most title tracks from the noise music groups aren’t focused on vocals, but the performance because the performance is what people want to see. Title tracks are the songs they’re using for music shows, so they pick the songs focused on putting on a show. Bsides are where you’ll get the vocals & amazing ones at that.
@TravisTheRed
@TravisTheRed Год назад
Like it or not, these are the songs that are most likely to leave an immediate impression on potential fans so it makes sense why they went with this sound
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
That’s for sure.
@TravisTheRed
@TravisTheRed Год назад
@Koko3op I will say that I do actually really like the "noise" music in kpop. My favorite part about kpop is the performances and I just feel like that style of music is best for focusing on the performance aspect of it
@coveredbycolors
@coveredbycolors Год назад
i feel like it's worth mentioning this song is a predebut song idk if u noticed the dance practice came out way before the mv, and the fact that it's very performance-focused (in my opinion) is because that's what they wanted to show to the public ! they have another title track which is called Rockstar and a few more songs so check them out as well, they can sing..
@YoursTAngel
@YoursTAngel Год назад
That's actually best for me bcoz me being Indian loved the Bollywood vibes!! Especially the last 1 min gives goosebumps 🔥
@kimdaniel2601
@kimdaniel2601 Год назад
I’m not Indian but I really liked the whole Bollywood influence in the song. It’s not super new but it’s not common either.
@YoursTAngel
@YoursTAngel Год назад
@@kimdaniel2601 More than new and common, it's the fact that the execution was right.
@clareb9957
@clareb9957 Год назад
The one leading the choreo with the twist bit in the chorus who you mentioned a couple of times is Hunter, KQ’s first Thai member. He has insane performance skill and energy
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Yeah he’s amazing!!
@kimdaniel2601
@kimdaniel2601 Год назад
I don’t think you have to like it, but I also found the bg makes bad music rant a bit much for a reaction to a debut group you’ve only heard one song from. I’m also not sure you need to compare them to gg. I just kind of feel like the bg/gg topic should be a topic separate from a video reaction-and really is it’s own topic. It’s a debut song-they’ve not had time to develop a sound yet but saying bg are bad or making bad music belongs on some other video. I know gg have ruled the last year-but as someone who likes edm and harder music I find most gg songs boring. I tend to like the ggs with dark concepts and harder sounds over the current trends for gg. It’s all opinion and preference though.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
I think it’s relevant to this video as to my reasoning to my lack of enthusiasm for the concept/song/performance. It being a debut is not a valid excuse imo cos there have been many strong debuts that have been unique and impactful. Their bsides were better for me which proves it was just a case of song choice, not because they’re new. I will not condescend talented people and lower my expectations cos they’re new, nope. Also my reaction shows the importance of picking the right debut song. Many people have said this song has been divisive and for a company to do that to a new group is a shame and peoples reception is on them not us the reactors.
@loveontopfan3100
@loveontopfan3100 Год назад
@@Koko3op No disrespect but just because you didn't like a song doesn't mean it's bad or was the wrong debut song for a group. It just means it didn't fit your personal preference. And that's okay. There are plenty of people whose personal preference it did fit and that was the audience they were going for. You apparently are not that audience. I personally can't stand girl groups music because I find most of their music boring, weak and repetitive. But they have an audience of people who like them so to each his own. Anyways, your channel, your rules so you can do and say what you want. But the borderline disrespect of boy groups and how they choose to express themselves musically was a big turnoff so this will be my last time tuning in. Peace out.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
@@loveontopfan3100 I didn't say it's the wrong debut song cos I don't like it, but because others have said it's divisive, massive difference. It's not disrespect lol the lack of sales and hits in the last couple of years from new boy groups proves my point, they're formula is predictable and not resonating in the same way but if you find me pointing that out disrespect then adios indeed!
@exol1827
@exol1827 Год назад
The tricky house Beat was actually bollywood inspired
@i_kpop_fan
@i_kpop_fan Год назад
You can’t go into a new group expecting amazing vocals off the bat with a debut. More lyrical songs aren’t typically comeback or debut songs. To get attention, they try to leave an impact with heavy tracks and beats and catchy hooks. You said all the boy groups are coming out the same…when the multitude of girl groups are sounding similar too. Aespa and NMixx and NewJeans and Kep1er and Pixy and Purple Kiss…most of them you can listen to and say “they sound a lot like ------“. If someone goes into something new with expectations they’ll will ever be satisfied by it. It takes groups a couple albums to develop their sound and start branching out into experimenting. Ateez and StrayKids, my two favorite groups, have both had several albums to develop the sound that makes them unique. Same for BTS, EXO, Twice, Seventeen, (g)I-dle….any group that is at the top. It takes time.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Depends on preference then, I definitely prefer "sounding the same" to have hooks, melodies, lyrics in a chorus and different concepts music video wise than performance music and chanty choruses full of production. And i'm good with that.
@i_kpop_fan
@i_kpop_fan Год назад
@@Koko3opthe MV is very conceptual. Xikers are goblins in their concept, or dokaebbi. In Korean lore, dokaebbi are tricky and helpful and want to dance and play with people, and when they choose a person if they play with them they’ll be given good fortune. If they don’t play with them and blow them off, then bad things occur and they get misfortune coming their way. They tend to be represented by blue lights and turn into brooms. The man in the video is chosen, and we see Xikers taking him from his tired, work-weary self to play games and win prizes, to win money, driving a Ferrari. He’s tired at the end of having all the fun, but he received a lot from playing with them. The song references a few Korean children’s songs about dokaebbi and we see them as brooms on the ground at the end. Basically Xikers are saying “come with us, let’s play, we will give you happiness and fortunes”.
@mayko2468
@mayko2468 Год назад
Complain all you want but this is the best boy group debut in A WHILE... y'all are so used to boring music
@fianista5841
@fianista5841 Год назад
Say it loudeeerrrrr
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Yet the "boring music" stays going viral and is selling in the millions, if I was an artist I'd want my music to be "boring" too LOOOOOL
@mayko2468
@mayko2468 Год назад
​@@Koko3op if you were an artist you would've wanted to be one from a big wealthy company... not everything is viral and sells millions just because it's good
@user-vq9rk6eb4d
@user-vq9rk6eb4d Год назад
@@Koko3op Yeah... spoken like a 'true artist' i guess lmao
@0seunggf
@0seunggf Год назад
this song def grew on me… its so catchy
@zoiebrianna
@zoiebrianna Год назад
I think girl groups focus on vocals more because their choreographies aren’t nearly as intense as a lot of boy groups, so they’re able to really shine vocally. That’s why ATEEZ is such a diamond in boy groups because you get amazing vocals AND a powerful performance. We have to remember this is a debut, they’ll get better just like ATEEZ did, and eventually they’ll probably be able to do intense choreos and amazing vocals simultaneously. I think the reason I tend to like boy groups more is BECAUSE of the intense choreo, and I’ve found myself wishing girl groups I watch (mostly dreamcatcher) would bust out an intense ass choreo, because they’re obviously capable of it, but the “standard” for them is to be feminine and petite.
@aaliyahkadigyah1408
@aaliyahkadigyah1408 Год назад
have you not seen girl groups the last 3 years??? the choreography they have is just as intense as boy groups
@zoiebrianna
@zoiebrianna Год назад
@@aaliyahkadigyah1408 not the ones that I’ve seen. I’m not saying it isn’t difficult, I’m just saying there’s different influences, styles, and in my opinion, it’s not as intense. But like I said. It’s not that I don’t think they’re capable, they absolutely are which is why I would like to see it, but I just don’t. I like when boy groups add feminine flares to their choreos but I don’t see masculine flares in gg choreos, which is what I’m looking for, that aggressive intensity. If you have recommendations though I would love to check them out!! I love watching people dance.
@Merlina2004
@Merlina2004 Год назад
​@@aaliyahkadigyah1408there are only a few lmao
@kimdaniel2601
@kimdaniel2601 Год назад
I find most gg choreography boring. I also find the whole new gg sound kinda boring. But I happen to like songs that go hard, I enjoy the mixed genres that BGs do more often, and I like edm. The ggs I enjoy are the ones who tend to go hard with the production or who actually dance choreo where they are don’t care about looking pretty and will even make ugly facial expressions when it fits. Craxy is a good example. I don’t like Pixy’s music as much but I like their performances. Dreamcatcher’s music is also good. What we like as listeners is going to vary and is all opinion. Not everyone has to agree.
@Merlina2004
@Merlina2004 Год назад
@@kimdaniel2601 you explained it very well. Some gg stans are so annoying saying bgs are boring but bg stan never talked anything bad about gg I like dreamcatcher too. Also I like everglow their song first choreo slaps
@flaggov6949
@flaggov6949 Год назад
I think this MV is probably for story building (I'll put my take below). The album has two title tracks, so we're hoping we'll get a video of Rockstar shortly. Listening to this album makes me thing xikers will lean more hip hop. Xikey is drill music--it and Rockstar are my favorites. We think xikers will be dokkaebi for their storyline. Korean goblins (dokkaebi) are nature spirits/gods that can inhabit objects and have special powers. They can be mischievous and can also be helpful. They're associated with blue flame (Wikipedia), so it may be that the blue flames around the man in some shots are the members in their natural form. My take: While it appears the goblins are being mischievous, I believe they're being mischievous in a helpful way. The man is working so late that no one is left on the subway by the time he leaves work. He looks stuck in the daily grind of life. I think exposing him to music, the arcade, dancing, and the carnival is their attempt to help him remember what it feels to enjoy life again. At the end of the bridge, they say "tell me what you want. Tell me what you need." and a car appears. I think they gave him what they sensed he wanted. The man smiles ear to ear as he drifts around the parking lot. Minjae's last words are "don't forget." This could have double meaning: 1) "Don't forget" it's our time now (we've debuted). 2) "Don't forget" to have fun and enjoy your life (within the context of the MV). I think they left because they had accomplished their mission. Apparently, goblins are known to inhabit household items like tools and brooms. I think the ten brooms at the end are proof he hadn't been dreaming. He had actually encountered 10 goblins. They may be using the English term Tricky instead of goblin because international fans can have different ideas of what a goblin is (like Lord of the Rings). Tricky gives the general idea (though the title is Goblin House in Korean). I think they picked this as the debut song because it introduces what will likely become an ongoing theme. It'll be interesting to see what kind of music they put out in the future because they have 3 great rappers, but their vocalists are still developing. As far as the members go, I was disappointed there are 10 because I think it's not as approachable for Western audiences. However, after watching them perform, I can see how it would be hard to eliminate anyone because all of the members are really talented (unlike some groups where it's obvious a member was chosen for there looks). They did a dance cover medley on 1thek that was really good, and if you haven't seen their dance practice for Industry Baby you really should.
@TheCutestChris18
@TheCutestChris18 Год назад
I have been avoiding listening to Rockstar until the M/V comes out.
@MissYellowCat
@MissYellowCat Год назад
Honestly I find groups larger than 8 to be pretty uncommon not rare but uncommon, ESPECIALLY with 4th gen (and girl groups). I actually really like this song and mv and choreo, it's a more rap based song/focused which is why there most of the vocals are limited to the chorus. Also it's a debut, you don't usually get a ton of amazing vocals from a debut unless it's a really unique vocal group. I see this as an introduction and I think that's what it's meant to be, a introduction.
@shishik4571
@shishik4571 Год назад
When Ateez toured the US, Xikers (then still KQ Fellaz 2) opened for them with Geek and Tricky House and I really liked watching them live. Both the songs (more Tricky House than Geek) were meant to highlight their performance rather than vocals but they do pretty well. As for their debut album I did quite like some of the songs however it might be a bit difficult for them to establish a separate identity from Ateez if their songs sound too similar
@_LoveMeKnot
@_LoveMeKnot Год назад
I wasn’t necessarily a fan of the title track but the b-sides are brilliant especially Rockstar and Oh my gosh. They blew me away but not surprising coming from KQ, they have so much potential and I’m interested to see how they develop
@LTO_Laura
@LTO_Laura Год назад
I genuinely think they're fantastic. If you want something "different" then you can't get better than Kingdom (big props to anyone mentioning them in the comments). Concept, storyline, visuals, styling, vocals, rap, performance, songs, everything is out of the ordinary and with top tier execution. The members also take care of some songs and choreography. They've been doing a lot better now but it's a shame how little attention they get.
@why7248
@why7248 Год назад
the bsides tho i’m not the biggest fan of edm so xikey is my fav song cuz it’s hip hop based. i’ve been listening to it and rockstar non stop and two other bsides really growing on me
@skyleec2560
@skyleec2560 Год назад
Seeing Tricky House live pre-debut was crazy bc i avoided tour spoilers for Atz, and they really had amazing performance energy. I think this was an anticipated song for debut, it was already heard and seen performed before, so it was fun to see it as their debut m/v
@charlx2333
@charlx2333 Год назад
The boy group that was being abused by their CEO is Omega X don't worry they are an independent Group now they won their lawsuit against spire entertainment
@angel-fs6gk
@angel-fs6gk Год назад
the producer actually said that they sampled an indian song so u might be right
@Merlina2004
@Merlina2004 Год назад
I don't know why you all want a boy group to sound like newjeans just Because they are getting instant famous. If you don't like it I respect your opinion but saying "another bg with typical bg sound" just stop saying this. Don't lie these kinds of songs that make everyone to start liking K-pop
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
But it’s true so I WILL say it lol. Boy groups aren’t even trying to do anything refreshing/new, same old generic noise music, that’s why they’re not selling like the girls but if you enjoy it, do you!
@Ashley-mw1kz
@Ashley-mw1kz Год назад
I didn’t necessarily like it at first but I kept humming it and now I can’t stop listening to it😵‍💫
@prrrpa1511
@prrrpa1511 Год назад
You have point, we have to be honest with our selves. But i think xikers will change this new boy groups curse.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
I hope so!
@ronja6783
@ronja6783 Год назад
I loved the song but I really appreciate your reaction it's so refreshing to see someone show a genuine reaction and is not afraid to make criticisms. I also wish for more vocal focused songs for bgs
@kyleewehb8013
@kyleewehb8013 Год назад
For KQ's artist, their title tracks mostly follows their lore while the b-sides are the hidden gems. I lpve Rockstar and Oh My Gosh compared to tricky house though.
@flowerfromnowhere
@flowerfromnowhere Год назад
THIS!!! Imo most of the people only listen to title tracks and think they are always same for me I actually liked the whole album but depending on my mood these days I need hype n motivation so tricky house and Rockstar give me instant energy😄
@sandraphobic
@sandraphobic Год назад
i really liked this reaction even tho you didn’t like the song bc you were being real and still watched the dance practice. with their comeback, the first tt is also hard hitting but more punk rock but the bsides are soooo good. would love to see ur thoughts on koong & do or die dances!
@ughhhdeja
@ughhhdeja Год назад
I like the song (kinda lmao) but that choreo is FIRRREEE but I feel like if I tried it, I'd seriously hurt myself
@flaggov6949
@flaggov6949 Год назад
Looking back on xikers debut halfway through the year, it seems like there's been a reversal. I recently checked out the bg debuts I missed and almost all the new groups are doing either refreshing or bright and energetic non-noise music. Out of 8turn, BND, CMDM, Dios, HAWW, Lun8, The7, TMC, Vi'enx, xikers, Xodiac, and ZB1 only 8turn, Xodiac, and xikers went more toward noise (8turn's debut was noisy in comparison to others, but I wouldn't describe it as full on noise music) and Xodiac's second MV "Special Love" also went refreshing (even though I found their debut disjointed, I think "Special Love" is one of the better soft refreshing songs this year). I wonder how many more new boy group debuts will be softer/refreshing concepts. With the success the girl groups have had, I wouldn't be surprised if the other big 4 boy groups this year follow suit and xikers ends up being unique out of this year's batch of rookies. Then again, Xikers first comeback is August 2nd--maybe they'll switch it up and show their refreshing side too.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Ohh true
@nikaiahepi4909
@nikaiahepi4909 Год назад
can you like actually focus on the dance practice please☠️ you kept going on about things you didn’t like that didn’t even have to do with the video that you’re suppose to be focusing on, which is the dancing. we get it, you don’t like big groups, or powerful songs, but i don’t care when you’re literally watching a dance practice.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
I’ll say whatever’s coming to mind in general, who do you think you’re talking to? I’m not your child lol. I said a lot about the dance practice too, including pointing out standouts and repeating certain parts of the choreo.
@DianaTM-hm7dr
@DianaTM-hm7dr Год назад
LOVEEE XIKERS
@chels8412
@chels8412 Год назад
I remember this first time I heard this song, Yechan's voice was a hard pill to swallow, I think if you're sure you don't like it you never will, but if you're like in-between wanting to accept it, it'll grow on you.
@laurennn316
@laurennn316 Год назад
I think hearing it live definitely helped yechan s voice grow on me
@chels8412
@chels8412 Год назад
@@laurennn316 ahhh i see, well rest assured i like it now, it was just a big difference from ateez's deep voices😭
@heeseungrs1714
@heeseungrs1714 Год назад
I love it 😭 but it's definitely a hit or miss for ppl
@chels8412
@chels8412 Год назад
@@heeseungrs1714 definitely, I was hoping for a ballad or soft song in the album tho just to really focus on their pretty vocals.
@irvina9972
@irvina9972 Год назад
what ppl dont like his voice?
@purpleantidote6120
@purpleantidote6120 Год назад
I just don't think you like Edenary's music, KQs inhouse producers for both Ateez and Xikers. You also have seemed bored/disappointed with Ateez tracks recently too. That's okay though. Personally I think Halazia was gorgeous, unique and distinctive and also Xikers have a fresh and bright and playful debut. This song is meant to be performed live to be truly appreciated. I would recommend you listen to their incredible bsides Oh My Gosh or Xikey or Rockstar, but I think you probably won't vibe with that either, as maybe you just don't like their style. A shame as I think they are real gems!
@bangteeez
@bangteeez Год назад
5:35 but ateez sing in most of their chorus and give us vocal quality songs like ateez debuted with pirate king but also gave us treasure for debut which is a banger
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
I didn’t say they’re exactly like them but the “harder” elements of their music is definitely a blueprint for a lot of boy groups.
@ProphetMisfit09
@ProphetMisfit09 Год назад
4th Gen have been lacking, boy group wise, but this is the groups that have slayed in the past 2 years for me. P1Harmony- Not for their title tracks, but the B-Sides on the first 2 albums especially, yaaas... And well, the vocals, of course. E'Last- For Dark Dream and only Dark Dream Kingdom- Their concept is actually unique and a lot of their music reminds me of Inuyasha Ending OSTs XD XDinary Heroes- Music is unique and tea &Team- HYBE does da thing
@sarahismyname
@sarahismyname Год назад
Xdinary Hero’s Strawberry Cake is forever burnt into my brain. So good!
@irvina9972
@irvina9972 Год назад
so bg music isnt for you i think
@ProphetMisfit09
@ProphetMisfit09 Год назад
@irvin a incorrect, I've always been more of a fan of the boy groups than the girl groups. This is especially a fact when it comes to the 3rd gen. I listen to way more boy groups than I do girl groups when it comes to the 3rd gen. 4th gen boy groups have just not been giving it that much. The newer groups at least.
@purpleantidote6120
@purpleantidote6120 Год назад
E'Last have gorgeous vocals and melodies! Very underrated.
@YoursTAngel
@YoursTAngel Год назад
Forgot to mention Ateez and Oneus
@littlebeen1143
@littlebeen1143 Год назад
8turn:i just like their music Lucy:while not in the past 2 years they still blow me away P1harmony: side tracks are always BSS:3 members from seventeen so dont know if they count. Hunter the dancer that you pointed out is thai and kq first foreign idol. He said no a fancall that he is like 6'0 or 6'1
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
I love Lucy, saved a couple of their tracks. Nahh I wouldn’t count BSS haha
@mghao_o
@mghao_o Год назад
Respectfully disagree with you
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
That’s completely fine lol
@Mistiny1791
@Mistiny1791 Год назад
There definitely starting them as more of a hip hop focused group. But they have a lot of potential to go in different areas. Their vocalists are still developing but their rap line is solid. Yechan whose the youngest. Rap style comes across as cringe at first then you get used to it fairly quickly. He stands out the most to me, with Sumin being my other favorite. In any event, they’re strong point is in there performance ability. That’s KQs bread and butter. I watched their Xikey live performance and they had me hype as hell 😂
@irvina9972
@irvina9972 Год назад
hell no his rap never give cringe to me,he sounds he is talented af
@kimdaniel2601
@kimdaniel2601 Год назад
Yechan has not been cringe for me either. He has some really creative rhythms and flow for a 17 year old. I really look forward to his development given where he is right now.
@JJNiceCreams
@JJNiceCreams Год назад
I was surprised you know about TAN. They’re so slept on but their music is so good and they’re really good performers! They definitely had the best boy group debut in my opinion within the past 2 years
@JJNiceCreams
@JJNiceCreams Год назад
Would you consider doing a reaction to a couple of their dance practices?
@AzInThePark
@AzInThePark Год назад
I feel that girl groups winning because if this kind of music was made by boys it wouldn't be as popular as gg ones (I love this music, so I would listen to these songs by every group, but I'm one of minority I guess). Txt and Enhypen do this kind of music, but guess what, it's HYBE. Also mostly high charting music comes from new girl groups who were expected to be popular, Le sserafim and New Jeans (of course, it's HYBE), IVE (Wonyoung and Yujin from Iz*One), there wasn't boy groups lately (2022-2023) who was formed by companies like SM or Hybe. And there's always one exception, like Fifty fifty (like was with Everglow). What this comment wasn't meant to offend you or point out that you're wrong or anything like that, just my take. Maybe I'm wrong and this is not the reasons. (You know maybe check ONF, (in korean pronounce as On n Off, guess ONF as a whole or O N F is okay too, like BTS or Txt), their music is different too, maybe you'll like it. They're from the same company as Oh My Girl. 5 of them went to military together to return together and we'll be back soon, except maknae, who is Japanese. I'll recommend their hit song We must love)
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Oh no I’m not offended at all! I hear you
@flaggov6949
@flaggov6949 Год назад
ONF's Beautiful Beautiful makes me happy every time I hear it.
@fernandamarca5648
@fernandamarca5648 Год назад
XIKERS yees
@Samcheese4
@Samcheese4 Год назад
It think debut’s are very different than comebacks. The debut is simply to pique your interest and give a taste of what they can do. In fact, it’s become more common to hold back on their debut songs to give them room to grow in comebacks, which is where they really try to one-up themselves. Although I understand, I still agree that it’s kind of disrespectful to compare them to other groups in a negative way when they’re just starting out. They’re just babies and they need room to grow if they’re in it for the long game.
@allysonwolf5721
@allysonwolf5721 Год назад
I don't listen to girl kpop groups more then boys and I like kpop boy groups but don't say they are winning? And also the only girl group song I have listened to was itsy wannabe. What makes them win? And who else? I probably 1 out of a million but you shouldn't say what you don't know either and I actually enjoyed the whole song. Maybe your just tired of these concepts but back then there were songs that are now coming back. Could be this in the next century later on and you will probably love it again.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
New Jeans (Hype Boy & OMG), Le Sserafim (Anti-fragile), XG (Tippy Toes & Shooting star), Fifty Fifty (Cupid) and IVE (Eleven, Love Dive, )After like) have all been MONSTER hits. Not only have they been viral and been covered by the general public and idols EVERYWHERE, they're all extremely different sonically, concept wise and have great hooks. They're also selling HUGE numbers (a few million sellers there) and those are all rookie groups, this cannot be said for rookie boy groups. I've just been told Fifty Fifty debuted in the hot 100, that's wild lol for a nugu group. This is why I say the girls are winning. They're reinventing themselves, establishing more unique concepts and sounds and releasing actual songs, not specifically performance music.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
So no I'm not just "saying what I don't know" loooool.
@bisky5813
@bisky5813 Год назад
xikey be there best track tho
@juh393
@juh393 Год назад
I knew that you wouldn´t like it but I love it, I think the sound it´s really new, the south asian referense is amazing, the concept as well. I think is a matter of preference, I see what you are saying but I don´t think boy groups should follow gg formula, all will be the same if thats the case.
@topefadiran106
@topefadiran106 Год назад
Thumbs up for the candid reaction 😊
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Alwaaays!
@CherB.7161
@CherB.7161 Год назад
Hongjoong was heavily involved in the composing and arranging of the album, which is why you can definitely hear the Ateez influence. I think KQ Ent. should have given them a more unique sound to call their own. I can’t wait to check out Rockstar and the rest of the tracks.
@MicheleDoenges
@MicheleDoenges Год назад
It's a predebut track. I'm sure their own sound will shine through with other tracks.
@Tina-ky9fx
@Tina-ky9fx Год назад
New Boygroups with something DIFFERENT: TAN, KINGDOM, TRENDZ
@julissaochoa9349
@julissaochoa9349 Год назад
Honestly this type of songs “hard” and not so melodic on the chorus always do better on bgs, you can see it w groups that have released more “soft & melodic” tt and they don’t do as good in numbers as their hard hitting songs, so they just continue doing so, it may not gather huge gp attention but it gets them actual stans & better numbers
@MicheleDoenges
@MicheleDoenges Год назад
You say boy groups these days all sound the same as if 4th gen girl groups aren't basically BlackPink but better.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
I’ve not heard any similarities between Le SSERAFIM, New Jeans, IVE and Blackpink at all, not sure what 4th gen gg’s you’re talking about. It’s much easier to draw similarities between boy groups. The fact there hasn’t been any break-out boy groups the last year or two says it all really.
@Merlina2004
@Merlina2004 Год назад
@@Koko3op so do you think stray kids,TXT, seventeen and ateez songs sound the same? Seventeen has been doing bright concepts from their debut, enhypen debuted with given taken which is not a typical bg like you said enhypen released almost every genre, TXT do the bright concept best, they also did rock pop genre so where have you been when this happens? you are the people sleeping on them and complaining about they all sound same Boy groups are more versatile than gg Do your research before you speak
@marn560
@marn560 Год назад
@@Merlina2004 letting the gg stans review songs like this is a HUGE blunder atp. Ggs have good songs they’re selling huge ok great so? The stans are just bashing bg music for not sounding ‘good’ or smth. Their ability to listen to distinct music is literally GONE. All the bg music DO NOT sound the same, like we can’t do anything if you guys are not cognizant of all the discreet production happening. Not all songs can sound like new jeans le sserafim I’ve and all? The sad thing about groups like xikers is they’re just gonna end up getting bullied by all the gg stans half of the time , for not making music according to their taste. Not that surprising well kpop these days is only visuals and songs, not talent and by songs I mean for how the song sounds. Was a good place.
@Cy-jv8ld
@Cy-jv8ld Год назад
You should check their Xikey performance
@jesslouise2018
@jesslouise2018 Год назад
Xeed! They are very 2nd gen it’s amazing
@ane.734
@ane.734 Год назад
i will say personally i think with the full album, this was a strong debut. i also think they went for a strong feel since boy group fans typically are drawn to this kind of sound. thats why the groups that have been getting popular are getting popular. if i was looking for more soft sounds, id go to a girl group who typically do those concepts well. boy groups do strong sounds well, so thats why i think they do them more often. not saying i dont enjoy the softer things or more melodic songs, but i can understand why those often stay as bsides for boy groups. also, i do find myself through out the day going "shanty shanty yea yea yea" hahaha so definitely something rememberable in this song for me
@erosivy
@erosivy Год назад
Jyp will be debuting a 5 member boy group this year or next year they are from the survival show loud which tnx also came from
@MargieLeigh3
@MargieLeigh3 Год назад
new bg's i'd recommend are tan, elast, and aimers. i don't know much about them but plave has an interesting concept with some pretty good music
@shannicole85
@shannicole85 Год назад
Like a few people have already mentioned, I feel there are a few boy groups who have stood out to me: Kingdom, E'Last, TAN, and Trendz. Although they're not "new" I will always ride for ONF and OnlyOneOf.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Truuueee ONLYONEOF have it!
@sayumidalpathadu
@sayumidalpathadu Год назад
Onlyoneof's entire discography is literally flawless
@CorvusLyra
@CorvusLyra Год назад
If you don't like what bgs are putting out so much why do you keep reacting and listening to them?
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Cos I can do what I want.
@atinycrown
@atinycrown Год назад
THE THINGS THAT I WOULD DO AND ORGANS I WOULD SELL JUST FOR YOU TO REACT TO CRAXY 😭😭. I’m 100% sure you’ll love them from vocals to rapping to choreo. I know you wanted boy groups but they’re the ones that came to mind as soon as you mentioned hooks,singing,etc. Also i absolutely agree with you. When first listened to the song I didn’t hate it but I didn’t love it either and I didn’t know why but you explained it quite well and I think that’s why I don’t love it as much as I thought I would and I even find myself liking the bsides more.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Thank you!! Okay you can keep your organs LOL I'll add them to the list though I do want a boy group.
@anastasyalukina8691
@anastasyalukina8691 Год назад
I think it's a solid debut even tho I'm not particularly a fan of the song or the choreo, they are pretty young themselves so i assume the targeted audience would be younger people too, like teenagers. They do have that young bg feel like kinda "immature" if you know what I mean, and I think that's exactly what I personally didn't like. But as you said if it came out like 4/5 years ago I'd probably love it. It's a good debut and I can't wait to see the progress and their growth
@yra7697
@yra7697 Год назад
Would wanty to see what you think about xikey
@justwatching6755
@justwatching6755 Год назад
I think it is preference bcz Ik sum ppl that still love big groups but I do want a 4-5 member group of just straight monsters but I feel like companies just think they know best so they put out what they believe will do well
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Yeahh definitely, tbh 7 really is the perfect number but yeah 5 would be nice.
@nell00-k8d
@nell00-k8d Год назад
I think CIX was the group that debuted in the recent years that really stood out to me. Their whole discography is really good. That’s why they’re one of my ults along with EXO and Seventeen
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Agreed CIX were amazing and are EXO’s sons but they were 4 years ago 😭
@nell00-k8d
@nell00-k8d Год назад
Omg time flies 😩
@yohanhermann8442
@yohanhermann8442 Год назад
The song was more lean to the performance side
@yngbokkari
@yngbokkari Год назад
i’m a big fan of noise music and hard hitting music in general. like i stan stray kids and ateez but i really couldn’t bring myself to like this. i think it never really takes a break so it sounded kinda messy for me. maybe if it had little parts where it chills out for a bit it would seem more hard hitting too. the boys are very skilled tho gotta admit that.
@homhom4778
@homhom4778 Год назад
I see minjae and i just click😁♥️
@sugarcere
@sugarcere Год назад
oh nah
@horangi113
@horangi113 Год назад
I admit I've also been experiencing a bit of burnout with boy groups and have been listening to the new Gaho album 'Diamond' pretty much non-stop for a change of pace and I love it. His voice is so beautiful and he writes and produces his own music. I highly recommend taking a listen.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Oooo I might have to!
@horangi113
@horangi113 Год назад
@@Koko3op Yes, you definitely should, lol! He has so many great songs - I really love 'Preparation For a Journey', 'Pink Walk', 'Fly', 'A Song for You,' and 'Stay Here,' to name just a few. He's also done several amazing covers with a live band called KAVE, including one of Blackpink's 'Shut Down' that will blow your mind. I also love their cover of Harry Styles' 'As It Was'. And fun fact - he wrote Shinee’s ‘I Say’ while he was in high school. If you do a little digging you can find his original version.
@luanapaesramos
@luanapaesramos Год назад
❤❤❤
@rfalieren9732
@rfalieren9732 Год назад
Bad take.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
I disagree looooool
@ughhhdeja
@ughhhdeja Год назад
People have different opinions and that's okay lmao
@mayko2468
@mayko2468 Год назад
Terrible take indeed... Bro had nothing positive to say when they clearly stand out in more than one ways... how much hate must one have to be an anti from day one
@wooyobites
@wooyobites Год назад
@@mayko2468 nothing he said isn’t true tho… he literally said they were for sure talented. y’all are weird.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
@@wooyobites loool yup! People get very defensive and suddenly have selective hearing. I said what I said, respectfully too.
@frogrome
@frogrome Год назад
7:21 i really like drippin especially nostalgia and young blood and a lot of their bsides, elast too i love swear and i think shelter and desire are one of their best bsides, i like kingdom too the concept is amazing and they are really crative with the choreos too in my opinion, bdc are not that active but all their titles are good. i cant think of any more groups, i know you know about onlyoneof and verivery but they are soooo good too i love every single verivery bside like they are amazing and the CAN dance too?? and onlyoneof i feel like every title track before libido deserves sooo much more recognition, in my opinion savanna and dora maar are one of the best songs ever idk maybe you wont even like them but i tried my best (im sorry if i made some typos or if i didnt even made sense but english is not my first language :D i tried tho but idk love ya
@frogrome
@frogrome Год назад
i just remembered fight inside by aimers is really good too
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Haha thanks for this comment! Yes ONLYONEOF have great songs. It’s a shame how all the groups you’ve mentioned haven’t had a break out hit. When I get the time I’ll check them out though.
@ecahludin721
@ecahludin721 Год назад
Honestly i didnt quite like Tricky House too. But i love Xikey the most. U guys should check out Xikey. I love the song n the choreo so much.
@dounyakorver9696
@dounyakorver9696 Год назад
What song is in the intro?
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
SNSD - Paper Plane (slowed)
@Tuvabaluba
@Tuvabaluba Год назад
@juliaclare606
@juliaclare606 Год назад
I would say DKB are the only BG that comes to mind with a different or unique feel. The closest thing to hard-hitting they’ve had was their Sober comeback but they’re predominantly mellow and more RnB feel. They also have incredibly creative choreo that they make themselves so they don’t lack in performance but it’s just less aggressive! I know you’ve had reactions to them on the channel before I just hope they get to properly breakout as I think they’re massively underrated ❤
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
Yess I looove DKB as dancers and performers and I do hope they have a break out hit soon.
@HeeyItsJazz
@HeeyItsJazz Год назад
I get what you mean. The industry is becoming so saturated with the noisy sound. I mean if it’s done correctly I’ll listen to it. I just think this song wasn’t so much the case. I like the direction today’s GG’s are going though. Lots of call backs to early KPOP formula, great vocal mixing and production etc. Maybe their actual debut will be better. Idk 🤷‍♀️
@purpleantidote6120
@purpleantidote6120 Год назад
This is their actual debut.
@HeeyItsJazz
@HeeyItsJazz Год назад
@@purpleantidote6120 excuse me. Another comment said this was just a pre-release single so I was going based off that
@marn560
@marn560 Год назад
This is the common review for TRICKY HOUSE but the bsides sound a lot better and I pretty much think this kind of stops people from viewing the other songs on the album cuz I’m pretty sure they prolly developed the idea of “the others probably sound like this too” but in reality they’re actual bangers (the others songs) and this album is def on a high level for a debut
@HeeyItsJazz
@HeeyItsJazz Год назад
@@marn560 I’ll have to give it a listen then. I try not to base my opinion of a group solely based on one song. A lot of hidden gems are on the b-sides ☺️
@flaggov6949
@flaggov6949 Год назад
​@@HeeyItsJazzIt was a pre-debut song which they added to the debut ep. as one of two title tracks.
@ijaneewalker968
@ijaneewalker968 Год назад
I feel as though why they went with this concept as music wise is because this is how you grab the audiences attention by having a hard hitting song , hard hitting Choreo and a captivating music video. I highly doubt they’re going to keep up with this concept only because they want to show off their other aspects as in dance, singing, rapping, etc.. this is just you know a debut or pre-debut and debut or pre-debut’s are always going to be hard hitting because if they were to come out with a slower song it wouldn’t gain as much attraction.
@lan1749
@lan1749 Год назад
Tbh I like the song- but I agree there doesn’t seem to be super stand out vocalists, they seem to be focused more on rap and dance but I mean- they are their own group separate to ateez so they probably weren’t going to have the same stand out vocalist similar to Jongho to make them different plus it’s hard to find a vocalist as good a Jongho let’s be real
@m1ngeek
@m1ngeek 7 месяцев назад
weird as hell
@lopez082
@lopez082 Год назад
Not for me too 🤷🏻‍♂️
@elizabethcarson5624
@elizabethcarson5624 Год назад
Although I agree that the song itself isn't the most refreshing I think that this is one of my favorite choreos in the past year or so. I do think that it would have been better in the long-term if they had debuted with 5 or 6 members but they were set on debuting with this song for a long time now and it looks better performance wise with more people so they debuted with 10. I do think that the large group number and the overused concept with not do well for them in the long run though which sucks because this is one of my favorite kpop performances in a long time.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
I love this comment! I agree and yeah I like the choreo too.
@haopill
@haopill Год назад
cravity is kind of the only newer boy group who does fresh concepts. i have high expectations for zerobaseone tbh.
@nikki6340
@nikki6340 Год назад
I do not like this song, kind of glad to see it's not just me😭 ppl are going crazy over it and I'm like...this is nothing new y'all I feel like any boy group could've done it. THEY DON'T SING CHORUSES ANYMORE I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A WHILE. A someone who was a mostly bg stan, over the past few years I've realized that I enjoy gg music more, because to find good bg tracks you have to go searching through b-sides😭
@Koko3op
@Koko3op Год назад
I kinda wish they released rockstar. Song slaps but we’ll see.
@anna.c.h.4314
@anna.c.h.4314 Год назад
​@@Koko3op as far as I know Rockstar is their second title track on the album and i guess they might promote it soon ☺️
@abdullah-e3g3v
@abdullah-e3g3v Год назад
i don’t understand why they released an ateez-sounding song, like there was literally no need for that they should have gone with a whole different concept..
@rainyrays738
@rainyrays738 Год назад
I think you should know that Hongjoong was apart of the producing of the song which is why- it has a hint 🧍‍♀️ actually in all the songs in the album
@abdullah-e3g3v
@abdullah-e3g3v Год назад
@@rainyrays738 that doesnt mean that the whole song should / would sound like an ateez song just bc 1 member wrote a few lyrics. they need to go back to the drawing board and rethink their whole sound and concept bc they can’t outdo the doer
@rainyrays738
@rainyrays738 Год назад
@a I assume so yes, but let's just also keep in mind that "tricky house" is been a song that was released since pre debut and which was performed as the opening act of ateez concerts as well with their other pre debut song "geek", but I do see where you are coming
@kimdaniel2601
@kimdaniel2601 Год назад
@@abdullah-e3g3v just a note-Hongjoong didn’t write a few lyrics. He was a large part of the production and lyric writing. He also did all of the guides. I actually disagree that it sounds like an Ateez song though. My response was how much it didn’t sound like an Ateez song and the rest of the album really didn’t make me think Ateez. But I probably have every single Ateez song on my playlist and listen to them daily and not just title tracks.
@marn560
@marn560 Год назад
About the concept thing idk if you’re saying this after reviewing all the other songs but if you did then this is very untrue. They even had it mentioned in their lyrics regarding this ‘ateez-sounding song’. I’m starting to notice how people ARE set with the ‘typical hardcore kpop bg music’ by reviewing ONE song. Well it’s foolish. I’m not surprised by this knowing how all the real ones are being swept under the rug. If you guys wanna listen to love dive and anti fragile so bad, go ahead. Ps I am NOT being biased wouldve said the same thing if it was vice versa.
@0825146090
@0825146090 Год назад
Check out their song Rock Star 👌
@flaggov6949
@flaggov6949 Год назад
In his pinned comment, he said he tried Rockstar and liked the pre-chorus.
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