I'm a new Christian, but before I became a Christian, most of my objections to the faith were intellectual in nature. Your channel is amazing! Keep up this crucial ministry 😃.
@@LindeeLove Linden Vann 1) All of Jesus' disciples except one were brutally executed for their belief. If they were making up the resurrection of Jesus, why wouldn't they recant and save their own lives? 2) The positive effect I've seen in my own life.
@@34ankiss Maybe their beliefs were sincere. But how do you know if their beliefs were justified? And I'm happy your life has improved. In what ways has it improved and how does that prove that Christianity is true?
@@LindeeLove If you made a story up, would you die for it knowing that it was false? Also, look up textual criticism. It shows that the ancient document we have the most historical evidence for is the new testament and that it's been incredibly preserved. Mere Christianity by CS Lewis is an inspiring read and so is "Case for Christ" by Lee Stroebel. They made the latter into a movie. I suffered from anxiety and addiction my whole life and bringing Christ into my life is the thing that has brought me the greatest amount of peace and satisfaction.
@@34ankiss all of his followers could have been made up. There is textual evidence that the gospels themselves were a fiction written by vespasian. An act to quell the Hebrew. Rebellions in the first century. If you read the history ( and no i dont mean the bible) you can see that romans had been in a battle for power over the region. The area had been over run my Hebrew messianic cults. Cults that prophesy a messiah and that he will be a lord if war. How better than to make one up that is peaceful and have him say "give to Caesar what is Caesar's. Spread the word of peace and do not fight back. Seems like the logical way to eliminate a rebellion. Also. Blame the crucifixion of said messiah on your predecessor and allow the spread of the cult through your nation because its easier yo control someone who is terrified of eternal damnation.
@The Pharaoh the thing is we are as sheep because Christianity is not easy, it never says it will be but we are comforted by the fact that God is with us and no matter what if we stick by him even in death we succeed. Wolf way of evangulising will not work, we will scare and discourage too many people away before even talking to them. It's all about attitude and willing to carry the cross. How strange is it to think of the God of the university to consider us?
@Jim Scott well any religion would include Christianity but I'd go out on a limb and just say you are trying to single out one belief system. Just a hunch
@@andys3035 so apart from the 'tactic' of shifting the goalposts and obfuscation, as "any" religion would obviously include all religions, what other dishonest tactics did you learn from Greg, the guy who thinks there's a difference between the Jesus group and christianity?
51:30 This is exactly why I try to teach my kids the reason behind why we believe what we believe. Someone that is given a faith is not going to keep it or rely on it if they don't understand it. And they're certainly not going to be able to defend it or evangelize if they don't understand it.
I remember Columbo very well. His tan overcoat and that beautiful stench cigar stub along with his endearing wince. Watched it with my mother who’s relocated to the Lord yelling ago. I’m very happy personally and for your reasoning that you’re leaving it “Columbo tactic”. The book is wonderful, you are wonderful and our Lord is wonderful (not necessarily in that order). May God bless you and yours. Howard
I have this book but never read it. Had the solutions and strategies and I didn't read it... so sorry. Blowing the dust off and reading this!! Thank you for sharing!
Jacq Jacq There’s a new edition to it now. Buy the new one and give the old one to another Christian. That’s what I do when I get updated books. Just give the old ones to another Christian.
"Already he who reaps is receiving wages and is gathering fruit for life eternal; so that he who sows and he who reaps may rejoice together." - John 4:36 How beautiful.
Amen. This is True. Think of the Giants (even Clement, Calvin, Spurgeon, Sproul) We have and are Reaping by GOD'S Grace in CHRIST from, to HIS Glory! Love It
Yes but pastors dont want to share with the evangelist. Look around NOT even a parking spot. Not aclnowledged. We are on a schedule with history. Zeck is happeng. Zeck 14 will happen and NO more Canninite Kjv . 1 403 830 4124
[Unrelated] I really like this filter. The shadows and the lighting is awesome and the image is super crisp! 🤓 But seriously WHY AM I JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS CHANNEL?! This is awesome! Keep it up guys
What Colombo did is illegal in real life. For the most part he would decide who was guilty within the first few minute and then harass and badger that person for the rest of the show. He was almost always right, but when real cops do this often the wrong person will get convicted.
I’ve seen Deepak Chopra before in various forums. I’ve never seen anyone get under his skin like this. At certain points of the argument he was visibly angry. I thought this went against his system. I haven’t finished Tactics but it’s the new jam on the scene, and it’s been out for years.
First you have to be prepared to be openly dishonest to your self and second you have to expect that people allow you to lie to their face. Third when challenged with the truth double down and lie some more. It's called a faith for a very good reason folks. And it's not called a fact for profoundly honest reasons.
“He was despised and rejected- a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief. We turned our backs on him and looked the other way. He was despised, and we did not care. Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins! But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed. All of us, like sheep, have strayed away. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on him the sins of us all. He was oppressed and treated harshly, yet he never said a word. He was led like a lamb to the slaughter. And as a sheep is silent before the shearers, he did not open his mouth. Unjustly condemned, he was led away. No one cared that he died without descendants, that his life was cut short in midstream. But he was struck down for the rebellion of my people. He had done no wrong and had never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal; he was put in a rich man’s grave. But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the Lord’s good plan will prosper in his hands. When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of his experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins. I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among the rebels. He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels.” Isaiah 53:3-12 NLT "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 God loves you so much and showed that by sending His Son to die for us so that we may inherit eternal life. We deserve hell but He gave us heaven through faith in Jesus. He took the punishment we deserved and by putting our faith in Him we can be saved. The Key To Eternal Life: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uZdv-TtiMkg.html For evidence for Christianity and answered questions, check out ru-vid.com and ru-vid.com because if Jesus really rose from the dead it is the most important fact ever! God bless y’all!
The Holy Spirit makes the Christian, does the conversion, not the sales pitch. The bible clearly teaches that the lamb's book of life is a finite list of names of those who will be born and become Christians, the sheep, the 'elect'. Doing evangelism is delivering the message that God uses to collect His sheep. It's a good idea to forget the mistaken concept that it's our job to 'close the deal' on a person. God will do that, or He won't do it according to His will, not ours. Learning these 'tactics' is a very good idea, but never begin to believe that it's the quality of your presentation that is at the foundation of gathering the sheep. It's God's work, not ours, we merely have the joy of sharing in it. Regarding the idea that we should avoid causing the other person getting angry, that's not always going to be avoidable. Jesus said that they hated him first, they'll hate us. It's because of the message.. It's controversial.. Jesus warned of hell quite often and accused the false religious teachers at the time which made them furious with him. The gospel is a dividing message and will often induce passion in the form of anger. People will get angry, they'll reject the message. Jesus said to shake the dust off our feet an move on. Never ever water down the gospel message in order to avoid the anger of other people and if you see the other person getting angry because of it, don't think you're doing the wrong thing unless of course you're getting into worthless arguments and clashing egos which is never productive. Greg makes a fantastic point about the judgement around 1:05:00 and onward. As he says, the New testament makes the point that we're all fallen in sin and don't deserve salvation as a result. We've earned death the moment we're born and continue to add to our sins daily regardless of who we are. The difference with the Christian though is that Jesus paid for their sins. They're wiped from the Christian's record.
Sometimes I stop and think about how lucky I am to be alive at the same time a great mind like Greg Koukl is. Btw, as a millennial, the Colombo analogy or brilliant.
Listening to some of Greg Koukl arguments for a superstitious Deity only strengthens the recognition that their is no Deity until evidence proves otherwise for myself anyway.
Thanks for the really good talk! LOVED IT! I also found the recommendation to the book on David Wood's channel, but wanted to know more about it, and that led me here. A lot of good stuff here, thanks for what you are doing Cameron! I'm ordering the book now, hehe. It was your channel that led me to David Wood BTW, haha.
Koukl seems to focus more on winning the argument with specious reasoning rather than finding out the truth. It's called "sophistry," and it's been around since before Jesus was even born.
Please specify what "lies and mistakes" you are referring to and how these would specifically, one by one, prove Christianity to be false. BTW, the Bible is not just one book. It's 66 books written during over a period of approximately 2,000 years, by 40 different authors from 3 different continents.
@Jr Juarez by 2050 the number of people that identify with no religion is set to be 13% worldwide. now it's 16%. i see how it's destroying religion 😂😂😂
@Kevin Schaefer and how does that make the Bible factual? I can piece together just as many fictional fairy tales from every continent dating back to when written language first began, does that make it any more correct?
So, around 34 or 35 minutes in, there is a discussion on how to deal with the knowledgeable atheist. When the Christian goes to research what has been presented, isn't there a danger that, at some stage, these new facts could override their presuppositions? Is that the point where they were never a "true Christian?"
This is exactly what happened to me, except I became a Christian out of atheism, with my previous presuppositions being overridden. Does this not mean I was never a "true atheist?"
You have to understand that the most powerful piece of evidence that an INDIVIDUAL can have is one of personal experience. If I were to ask you what evidence most atheists need to believe, a large majority would state that of personal experience or witnessing. The only reason we believe that the physical world would be physical, and not an illusion, is that of personal experience. Or that time is really passing. Etc etc. Now MY personal experience is not going to be evidence for anyone other than me. And this is why it would be reasonable for an individual to assume that he has a relationship with an existing God (just as one would assume that the physical world or time is ‘real’) without the need for any arguments.
@@davidlenett8808 Would you like me to pull a quote from someone from this side? I would love to see the numbers behind that statement from him to give it any credence at all.
Great interview, easy to sit back and listen to. I whuld really want to see Greg or Cameron for that matter in conversation with an actual SE practitioner like Anthony or Ried. At 52:34 "there are no answers" "nothing world view" is actualy a wrong statement from an athiest standpoint. The honest answer you whuld get back is "we dont know" More people really shuld stop beeing scared of saying those 3 words.
That "waiting" remark is very much like expecting to become physically strong by just watching other people exercise while never lifting the weights yourself.
The content of the video is top notch. I can hear Greg any time any day. The lightning, however, awful. No idea who designed this lightning here but it is really awful. Why is the host’s left side of the face, the one facing the audience, so dark you can’t even see his eye? The mood of the lightning here is for an interview where one is interviewing a vampire.
Interesting that you need "tactics" to push Christianity. One would think such a thing as a god would be self evident. ie. Without the influence of other men, I should arrive at a knowledge of god. If this is not the case, then there cannot be one.
The self afflicted atheists who flocked to this video & others of similar content, have little to nothing to say IMO. They hurl insults, ad hominem attacks, and empty statements that offer nothing but criticism in an attempt to do what....discourage, derail s/one's beliefs? It's really quite sad, as they fail to load up with a/thing of value before they arrive...they take no aim, and it's just a shotgun approach, and come up with nothing.
I insult beliefs I find absurd or repulsive; the core stuff of Christianity is both to me. I don't do ad hominems, and though I would love it if people lost their faith because of something I say, I would be arrogant to think I could do that as a rule, and I don't really expect to, either.
For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to DEATH MATTHEW 15:4 how lyrical and beautiful words! 🙏🙏🙏
Facepalm Jesus put to death? Does not sound beautiful and bible also says Luke 14:26 New International Version (NIV) 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple. These to verses condraticts each other which shows this bible is not the word of God and u will not find 1 error,condratiction or anything bad in the Quran I’m not trying to mock you and if I did anything wrong that offended you im sorry but plzz open ur mind and look your priests have TACTICS to convert other why would you need tactics if bible is word of God? And not only that the write books about how to convert Muslims to Christianity. Islam is pure and the fastest growing religon you should take a look and if there is a question you want to ask plzz ask me and I’ll try to answer but remember I I’m not a scholar or a imam so I’m not very knowledgeable but I’ll try my best and may Allah s.w.t guide you to the right path and he is the best of planners
Facepalm Jesus Quran says don’t even say uff to your parents Quran 17:23 And your Lord has decreed that you not worship except Him, and to parents, good treatment. Whether one or both of them reach old age [while] with you, say not to them [so much as], "uff," and do not repel them but speak to them a noble word.
The law in old testament was to show Gods standard-perfection..thats why even small act of rebellion equals death...that was point of law...keep it perfectly..and no one has done it..all missed the mark..all sinned..except Jesus fulfilling the law perfectly who died for us stupid selfish people , so that we could have chance to stand before Holy and perfect God by his righteousness and grace toward us and not of our own deeds ..
@@hasan-6418 if you read all chapter of Luke 14 you would clearly see meaning of verse 26..He is saying if you put anything above me at first place..your family even your own life you are not worthy of me..if you dont count the cost of following me and cost is everything you are not worthy of me.. And you wanna tell me that bible is not word of God when quran confirm torah and gospel as word of Allah revealed prior quran..Muhammad read torah and say i believe in that and in God who has revealed it..Allah himself say to believe in gospel and if you dont understans something ask people of gospel..and if word of Allah cant be corrupted how than you claim bible is? When Allah and muhammad confirm bible in 7 century and oldest copy of gospel we have is from 4 century and torah from 2 centuryBC and it is the same one today.. If bible as word of Allah is corrupted how should I know quran isnt also..if bible let say is corrupted can you show me one original torah or gospel..at least one muslim should have it right? Or show me one student/disciple of Jesus from his time till muhammad who saw Jesus as muslims today see him, one only, one who was teaching that christianity is wrong..that holy spirit is coming muhammad. one group of people who carry correct revelation of Allah by torah and gospel till quran... Revelation of muhammad..he tried to kill himself few times cause he said that demom attack him..he tell also that he was under witchcraft..you have also parts where he speak something what Satan himself said to him..and I should know peek and choose what revelation he get from devil and what from Allah? Dont get me wrong..i like muslims..and muhammad also he done some very good stuff through his life.. But christianty stands infinitely higher above islam in any argument..
@@hasan-6418 hey bro. ima just send you something i wrote to another muslim who tried to claim that Allah was the true and all powerful god/creatoer of the universe, that jesus was not resurrected (winces), etc. (..So this is all a response to their comment. thought u might find it useful because you currently put your faith in "Allah") ••••••• Argument: "Christianity is fake and Allah is the one true god." Nah bro. Christianity is pure truth. Full fax. Investigate. When has the Bible ever been wrong bro? The Bible's NEVER been wrong. Never contradicted itself even once. Test it. But, alright. For you, to prove the authenticity of "Christianity" (or a relationship with the one true (not Allah) God) I must first disprove Islam. Ok. I'm no scholar, but let's dive into this: -- Right so, Islam and all other religions are lies. Why? 1. You couldn't have a (strong) relationship with those gods even if you tried. 2. Islam was founded upon a deceived man with broken morals. If "Allah" was God he would have to match the standards of God. (Especially if certain Muslims want to claim that Allah and God, Yahweh, are the same.) Correct? So judging by the moral laws that have been written both in stone and on our hearts (metaphorically speaking) from the beginning, an all powerful creator must be the definition of everything good and encompass total perfection. OK? For us to even understand morals, this God, our creator, must be the definition of morality and therefore have created it for us as laws. Ok. So, ofc we must then be able to conclude that this God is just. A just God cannot deceive (lie). Yes? Yes. ...so then how come (in the Qur'an) the entire base for the "folly" of Christianity is that Allah deceived the people to think Jesus raised from the dead? This is straight from your "holy" book. It doesn't matter how you translate it, that still amounts to the same concept. If Allah deceived something, Even Once, BY DEFINITION, he cannot be God. . BUT, we can keep going!: 3. The Qur'an is extremely contradictory. Not to mention, the additional characteristics of "Allah" do not meet the standards that would deem "him" worthy of the status of God. For example: 4. "Allah" doesn't want to come down to the human level and have a relationship with his own supposed creation. Ok. ...That's called Pride. Pride is COMPLETELY contrary to the Necessary characteristics of an all-powerful God. God is love. He MUST be love. If not, he would not be able to create because (constructively, not just emotionally speaking) love builds. Hate destroys. But, pride is not of love. Want proof? Find the most prideful person you can and try to have a healthy (2-way loving) relationship with them. Not going to happen. Pride is a nasty thing and not at all a Godly trait. 5. And while we're at it: How come the Qur'an teaches hate when God is love (as we already sorted out why that is)?? It literally commands Muslims to FIGHT Christians. Come on bro! It should just be obvious at this point that fighting someone of contrary beliefs as you is NOT a holy characteristic. Look it up in the Qur'an if you need to. (But just incase this isn't clear already, Fighting of that prideful nature Is Hateful.) Based on what we just learned about pride, fighting in pride is hateful (of something that has proven to be actually good, and righteous) and thus, not of a Godly nature. Yet the Qur'an is founded upon these ideas? 6. You know what's funny? Notice how it's specifically Christianity that's the target... Why? This "light" that inspired the Qur'an could have relayed anything about any religion because they would all technically be opposing Islam. And yet, it chose to distort (with no proof) the story of Jesus's resurrection (the very thing we need to believe in to even get into Heaven)?! Why??? What did Christianity ever do to Islam? It's not the only monotheistic religion out there. The only logical answer is that it's Straight from the Pit of deception itself. Oh boy. That explains why Allah was so chill with deceiving people. Did you know that the Bible actually says Satan is the Father of lies (deception)? ..BUt, "Allah" is still Holy. Right? Hah. By what criteria? This just further proves my point: The Qur'an (allegedly authored by divinity) is an extremely deceptive and blasphemous book. It disgraces and distorts people's understanding of who God is and has to be. Really, for a people that believes they are peaceful, too few notice these major inconsistencies. These people who claim to be peaceful have a false peace and their souls know it. Otherwise, why is it the devout Muslims (the ones that should be having the most peace) that are often quick to violence?- even without having all the facts? That kind of self-righteous judgement and not of Godly nature. Religion does that to people. Relationships don't. Tangent. Right, so By Definition, a holy book CANNOT have inconsistencies. Otherwise, it is not God's word. Why? Because God is perfect, and therefore Eternally consistent. However, Christianity is a WHOLE different story. We know our God. We can pursue a relationship with our God. Should we pursue it, he will provide us with a peace and joy that cannot be destructed! The Bible is more than just words to memorize, it is words for our soul. Just when you think you're reading it, you realize IT'S READING YOU. Man I love God. I love Jesus too bro. Jesus is the ONLY way. (and yes, obviously now we'd have to conclude that Jesus did raise from the dead since Islam's is pretty much the only religion that claims this isn't true - and we just debunked that whole deceptive theology of Allah's sovereignty and therefore Islam as a whole). (nOt to mention all the evidence we have.) -- SO, some facts about the true God (Yahweh). His heart longs for us to turn from our wicked ways (sin) and trust in the (impressively-verifiable-for-bible-times) resurrection of his son. He sent his son to die for us, to conquer death, and rise again ALL so that he can draw us closer to him. In conclusion, Imma tell you this mate, Jesus is the Only way to Heaven. (People have literally died and seen heaven (or the other place :/ ) - and come back to life on Earth to describe it.) Literal demons tremble at the name of Jesus. (There are countless videos on RU-vid of Christians casting out demons, as well as people experiencing the power of the Holy Spirit for the first time) (it's awesome!). Lame people take their first steps because of the name of Jesus. (Again, all over RU-vid.) There is no other name like Jesus. Bro. Fr, what has the name of Allah done? *Nothing.* (Except spur Christians to explain the falsity of Islam.) Pick up a Bible sometime. You won't be disappointed. So, to hopefully a future brother/sister in Christ, Be blessed ✝️😊
Not gonna lie, I really hate Greg Koukl now, but I still really appreciate this video cuz the questions you ask are really helpful (you’re an incredible interviewer) and I just really appreciate what you do, even when I more than dislike the guests
I don't understand how a person who knows a lot about Christian apologetics can't be lead toward atheism, and not toward belief in Christianity. Christian apologetics seriously has got nothing. It amazes me that people actually get degrees in this stuff.
7:15 How is it a good thing to have a game plan for having confidence without knowledge? Who else should engage using such tactics? 9/11 conspiracy theorist? People Believing in alien abductions? Flat earthers? Scientologists? Atheists? Etc. I don’t see how you could ever expect to get to the truth using such tactics.
remember some atheists just don't believe in god they are not convinced of it's existence as it ain't shown up so the position stands without any particular knowledge needed (in the same way an agnostic does not know if gods real for the same reason).
I find this discussion interesting because neither Greg nor Cameron ever want to actually talk or converse with non-believers, except in very specific situations.
You know, I enjoyed your first couple of paragraphs, @Have Mercy, and then you started preaching at me. It's called a conversation. Not a debate. But that's what preaching on RU-vid will bring you. Don't complain about it and then do it yourself, Mercy.
Just as you are frustrated with the responses of non-believers, @Have Mercy, I am also tired being told that I just want to sin and having Bible verses quoted at me. I apologize. I am curious if you understand why atheists are so much more vocal these days than at least when I was a child?
How is it a fulfillment of prophecy,@Have Mercy? I agree that many are seeking truth. Unfortunately, I'm not sure we would know it even if we found it.
Interesting how you deal with the resurrection stories. Matthew 28: 1-6 (80 AD) After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb. 2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. 5 The angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6 He is not here; he has risen, just as he said Mark 16 (AD 66-70) 1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus’ body. 2 Very early on the first day of the week, just after sunrise, they were on their way to the tomb 3 and they asked each other, “Who will roll the stone away from the entrance to the tomb. 4 But when they looked up, they saw that the stone, which was very large, had been rolled away. 5 As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man dressed in a white robe sitting on the right side, and they were alarmed. 6 “Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “You are looking for Jesus the Nazarene, who was crucified. He has risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid him. 7 But go, tell his disciples and Peter, ‘He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.’” 8 Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid.[a] Luke 24:1-11 (AD 85-90) 1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. 2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. 4 While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside them. 5 In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? 6 He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee: 7 ‘The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.’ ” 8 Then they remembered his words. 9 When they came back from the tomb, they told all these things to the Eleven and to all the others. 10 It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the others with them who told this to the apostles. 11 But they did not believe the women, because their words seemed to them like nonsense. John 20:1-(AD 90-110) 20 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance. 2 So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don’t know where they have put him!” 3 So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. 4 Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, 7 as well as the cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus’ head. The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen. 8 Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed. 9 (They still did not understand from Scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.) 10 Then the disciples went back to where they were staying. The stories cannot be harmonized. One angel outside, one inside or two inside.
The Gospels are based on eyewitness accounts, so mentioning one does not preclude the other being present. There are also Titanic sinking accounts that differ, some say it was a fire on board, others say it was an iceberg, but those claims are not mutually exclusive.
None, when read in Greek, limit the amount of angels. It’s a very common technique in ancient writing for people to omit certain people at an event in order to highlight the specific ones they need people to know about because 1. It’s rhetorically effective, and 2. Writing was super expensive. Even the richest historians of the time would use it, Plutarch would even do it with the biographies he wrote himself. Do you deny the murder of Caesar?????!!!!?? Any cursory understanding of the time period the Bible was written in debunks the supposed contradictions a hundred times over, even infidels.org now has shifted the goalpost to contradictions/things (idiots) might assume are contradictions since the Bible shouldn’t have those if it’s perfect.
@@danhudson1333 So when they get the message from the angel sitting on the rock they are going to go inside the tomb and get a message from another angel but wait he foregets to mention there were two angels inside. But wait in John's gospel Mary sees the tomb is open and leaves and goes and tells Peter and John. Good luck with that.
@@danhudson1333 Eyewitness accounts? No, these are stories created and told to each other many years after the event. The earliest gospel is thought to be Mark, written some 30 plus years after the death of Jesus.
Tell them that God hates most people and has unconditionally elected them to destruction. You can tell a few people that God actually loves them because God loved them first. However, for most people, they could say, I hate God, because He first hated me. That is calvinism in a nutshell. If you do not preach this, it is because you are ashamed of it. Own up to your theology or hopefully you will reject deterministic philosophies of death, which defines the calvinistic system of turning God into a monster.
Also like to point out that just because an atheist may say he knows that there's no god, his positive claim does in no way remove the burden of proof from the Christian claim. That still stands.
tranceman22 I’m an atheist and do not make a claim to “know” there is no God. My only claim is I do not believe there is one. If an atheist makes a claim to “know” there is no God I agree that claim requires a burden of proof.
hello Missy. there is no repentance after death. that is why the bible says Hebrews 3:15 As has just been said: "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as you did in the rebellion."
the masters of doing this are.....JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES,...smiling they have been doing this for 100yrs as a group and they train each and every member how to do it ,and they can to by varying degrees depending on their personalities whether they are outgoing or shy by nature.
Set your mind on Jesus Christ with a repentant heart and leave Him, to decide what you'll leave behind. The reason I say this, is because it is by grace through faith, that we are saved and that is not of ourself. So it isn't by works or anything we do, or don't do, but by faith alone, having believed that Jesus died for our sins once for all, and that God raised Him from the dead. The bible says we are to believe this in our heart and confess it with our mouth, unto salvation. So, does doing this, make it a works based salvation? Not at all, it is an act of obedience to God, the Holy Spirit, Whom, has indwelt the believer, causing regeneration of our spirit that was dead in Adam. Just like He did in the one thief on the cross next to Jesus and again with the Roman Centurion who stood at the foot of the cross. He of course, being symbolic of the Gentile Church to come, declared a crucified Jesus, to be the Son of God. Amen, praise the Lord. We have been given a new spirit and a new heart that is not hardened toward righteousness and a renewing of the mind, which completely changes our volition. This is why a sinner would be willing to walk away from sin and follow Jesus as Lord of their life. Just like you are thinking, you may wanna do. Judging by the comments, it sounds to me as though you are doing exactly what you said in your heart, you would be willing to do. The Lord is the One that will see the work He has begun in you, through unto completion. Which of course, will be when we meet Him face to face in our new glorified digs. Our new glorified body, I was just trying to sound cool by saying, "digs". Lol.. I purposely said it that way, to show you that we Christians are just like everyone else, in that we like to have fun, still wanna come across as cool, unique and individual or whatever our thing is, just not prideful or immoral, or anything sinful. We live a new more abundant life inside these vessels, that is pleasing to God and brings glory to Him. This is the fruit of the Spirit. His Spirit, the Paraclete, Who is working in us, doing all of the heavy lifting and comforting us, and rooting us onward to the finish line, by encouraging and enabling us. He is also sanctifying us, which of course is setting us apart from the world around us. Making us a peculiar people, something like God's chosen people, the Jews. Only for them it was in the physical sense as they were commanded to live in a way that was so different than anyone else, that they remained separate from everyone, thus ensuring a pure bloodline to the throne of David, and our Lord and King, the long awaited Messiah or Christ Jesus, Who will reign on David's throne forever. But, in us the elect, it is spiritual, and yes we too, are a peculiar people, in the sense that we are merely sojournors in a land that is not our own, as we are just passing through, to reach the destination that God has placed the desire for, in our hearts. Here is the tough part, and I can tell you this without concern of you turning and running the other way, because if indeed you are elect, then you, like myself and all of the brethren will be cast, in the furnace of affliction. Notice that I didn't say "cast into", like Daniel's three buddies, who were cast into a furnace in a failed effort to destroy them. Rather, I said "cast in" and the reason for this, is because for us, it is not for punishment and destruction, but discipline and admonishment and through affliction, we are being perfected in Christ or you could say, being made into the image or likeness of Christ. This is achieved by our suffering, as He did. This I believe is only one of the reasons behind what Paul meant when he said, to take up our cross and follow Him, and also, work out your salvation with fear an trembling. When we are following Christ, we are the light of Christ, to the world around us. I am not saying we are Christ. But, when people see and hear a true blue born of God, Christian soldier, there is such a vast difference between them and us, that those who remain rebellious against the Lord become uncomfortable because they love darkness and all the sinfulness that goes with it. They hate the light and shun it because it reveals the truth about their wickedness and the dark sinful condition of their heart. We need to be on our guard from attacks by the evil one, who works his craft in and through those that remain spiritually dead in Adam, as they are lost and deceived. We will be persecuted for Christ's name sake. That is one of the marks of a godly man. Just look at all that our Lord allowed, for Paul to suffer for Christ's name sake. Also let us not forget that there is a spiritual battle for the mind, taking place, and the reading of the word and prayer and fellowship are where we will find some of our best defense against any accusations from the evil one. Not to mention, both the word and prayer can be a quiet place of refuge, to shelter us from any of the storms we must go through in our trials. I am confident, that the Lord has already begun a great work in you. Tonight when I head down to the lake, to spend time with the Lord. I will include all of you in my prayer. Anyhow brothers and sisters, I love you, as do all of the brethren, who are eternally in our gracious Lord, Christ Jesus.
Not really anything new. The old "Wait, let me ask YOU a question first" "tactic" has been used by Rightwing radio and TV hosts for years...as a means of dodging uncomfortable or embarrassing questions about conservatism. Limbaugh, Hannity, et al did and do it to callers or guests all the time. The problem most of Kouki's fans are going to find is...they won't totally control the conversation (as well as running into a non-believer who is familiar with the Bible or their standard arguments). THEY will face questions in return...like "So a decent person who is 'unsaved' is looked upon by God the same way He looked at Stalin or Hitler?" and "Is ETERNAL torture a suitable punishment for 70-80-90 years of a 'sinful' life?" and "Why can't God simply destroy the souls of the unsaved....is He NOT omnipotent?"
You should know that words and arguing tactics only get you so far. Sooner or later you've got to deliver the goods. Either prayer works or it doesn't, and truth be told, it doesn't work. Sooner or later you've got to experience god and the spirits that have been promised, and to be sure, such blessings will not be realized. After god fails you in every way possible, will you continue to believe or will you recognize the futility of it all and quit pretending that any of it is real? Some will continue grasping at straws, most will simply get on with their lives without the make believe god. Not so much active and aggressive atheists but rather average people who live full and fulfilling lives without the need for a make believe friend.
@@alanbravo7005 No, Drew Barrymore rose from the dead: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bkWx5bv_EGw.html (Warning: scenes alluding to extreme violence)
A much better comparison would be aliens who are much more advanced than us in their capabilities. Would we just lay down and either die or be used by them in whatever way because they were superior in whatever respects? Should we?
The key challenge is not selling your book, but having to sell the Bible book as something wholesome. Because many can see the evil there, despite apologetic claims that all the rape, slavery, infanticide, cannibalism, and human sacrifice for bloodmagic are actually rooted in a benevolent deity that loves us, and only desires to save us from himself.
I can't accept Christian dogma for a multitude of reasons, the most heart felt one is this: My mother and father were atheists who showed nothing but love and compassion to their children, family, friends and strangers too. They donated their time and hard earned money to charitable causes like the volunteer fire department, food banks, hospitals, historical societies, etc. But even with all of that love and compassion, Christian dogma has the gall and insolence to claim that due to their lack of faith in Yahweh, that they are now suffering for eternity in hell. Go ahead god-heads, and talk me off that ledge. Convince me to embrace your sick world view.
But good deeds will not get you into heaven God is holy and just and will only judge you according to your bad actions, words etc. You must repent( to change from your ways ) and belief that Jesus Christ died and rose
@@alanbravo7005 Yes that's a problem with your god. He seems to be obsessed with bad, evil, pain, torture, hate layered on hate, stoning and dashing children into rocks, cutting pregnant women open and demanding people to murder their children and annihilating life from the biosphere on earth. Because of what makes rational sense to me as a rational human is not formalizing and promoting a belief system structured in all of that negativity, I'm an atheist.
Greg’s response near the end concerning individuals who fail to believe in God and are damned wasn’t helpful for me. He wants to say bad works in general are explanatorily sufficient to explain damnation, not the failure to believe in God. Unfortunately, an implication of his solution (go back and listen) included a necessity to believe in God so he merely pushed the problem back. The Catholic response is better. The Church teaches belief in God isn’t strictly necessary to enjoy the mercies of God.
The gospel is clear though: believe that the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and rose on the third day and you will have eternal life. Believing in the Heavenly Father (God the Father) is not enough. Faith and belief in his Son Jesus Christ is.
Lucas Hack on this view, infants, children and certain individuals who suffer with mental disorders are unable to enjoy the mercies of God. Look, I agree that belief in God is the ordinary means of salvation; it doesn’t follow, therefore, that God is unable to use extraordinary means to rescue his people.
@@defeatingdefeaters Have you researched the scriptures on what God does with children that die before their conscience can understand what or who God is?
@@chad969 I suggest researching these things before commenting. I'm not trying to be rude, but the verses regarding children and their level of accountability to sin is very easy to find. Just search "do children go to heaven?"
Mr. Koukl please put aside your 'tactics' and give us something tactile. What physical evidence do you have for a physical JC? I am asking for logic parity. You must have more than doubtful texts by unknown Greek authors. King Tut left behind his body and named grave goods. Caesar and Alexander left us contemporary coinage. What have u got for the alleged JC?
Christianity and the Two Horned Beast that came out of the earth: by the World of True Science There is much Controversy over revelation, in the book of confusion that Christianity worships. There is much concern, as to what that mark of the beast truly is. Just consider some reality of the symbols. In the forehead, is in the mind, the promotion, and the honor, this is the true reality. In the hand is the action taken in physical support, and that especially includes fighting and killing for the beast. Then what is the beast? It is the United States and the two horns are the two parties’ that rule. The lamb is the claim of Christianity, it is the deceit of the true nature of the beast, it pretends to be that meek loving little lamb but it is a furious beast, the super-power of the world. The New World Order is the partnership of the United States Government and the super-wealthy of the world. Those wealthy Globalists’ chose the United States Government to be their headquarters and power of control. The reason being, that this nation, the United States, is the mighty superpower of the Whole World. It is the same as the Catholic Church using the Power of Rome to dominate the whole world; and that was very successful. It was the first beast out of the sea. This nation has policed the whole world for many years. The New World Order has controlled the banks of the world, and financed nations to keep them under control and set sanctions on those who resisted the power and respect of the New World Order. That no one can buy or sell unless they honor the New World Order dominion. In all reality the super-wealthy is the New World Order. Acting in the same manner as the Catholic Church did with Rome. It is a true partnership. Those who are honest with the facts and truth realize that it was none other than George Bush himself that spoke those famous words. “This is the beginning of the New World Order.” It was not one of the Jackasses that proclaimed that to the whole world. Neither was it any leader of any other nation. There are some that views George as a Jackass but the whole Bush family is of the Elephant Klan. Now, those famous words were only the official Proclamation. The New World Order’s true beginning was over a century ago. I have been visiting the earth for 87 years and I was aware of the New World Order in my preteens. Both the Elephants and the Jackasses have their closets bulging with Skeleton’s. And that is the reason for the great standoff. Both the Elephant and the Jackasses are staunch Globalists. They are just fighting for their position in the New World Order. The Citizens of the United State is too close to view the true reality of the New World Order. They are in its belly unable to view from the outside. This is just words to the honest and wise: honesty and understanding is the only true belief. Without honesty and understanding we do not know what to believe. To accept others opinion of the truth without proving it to yourself; it is being deceived it is not believing. We must understand to believe. I do realize that the facts and truth is difficult for Christianity to face honestly. All Criticism is welcome, as thoughts of criticism are one of the processes of learning. True Criticism is presenting facts it is not name-calling and slander. Until Next time; Sweet Dreams: truth will solve all our problems before we create them; and ignore or reject the truth; problems will multiply all by themselves; those problems will need no help. Have a great and a meaningful life, if it is at all possible. Just whispers, of the Ghost of Reality
Can believers give me their single most compelling pieces of evidence ....in their opinions.... that the origin of our universe is an ancient Jewish deity named Yahweh? I'm not asking for a link to a book. I'm just curious what single pieces of evidence have convinced believers.
You believe we came from nothing haha I am convinced it is more logical to believe God a being who is outside of creation to create and design creation
You believe we came from nothing haha I am convinced it is more logical to believe God a being who is outside of creation to create and design creation
@@alanbravo7005 "I believe we came from nothing"? I didn't claim this in my comment. I'm not aware of any atheists who claim this. My original question holds. Can you give me a single piece of evidence that you find compelling that convinced you that Yahweh, the deity described in the Bible, is responsible for the formation of our universe?
@G Will Actually, it is scientific. He's applying what's called the "principle of parsimony," but since you aren't a stupid moe-foe, I guess you probably don't even know what that means.
@G Will It really depends on what you mean by "know." Of course, I would agree one doesn't know in an absolute sense that something is true or false based just on the principle of parsimony. But it is still one of the most reliable rational principles that we have. Absolute knowledge though seems to be a hang up for theists. I don't believe I have any absolute knowledge about the truth of any synthetic proposition. However, I have for-all-intents-and-purposes certain knowledge about a lot of things. Let's just say that I don't think that risking erring on the side the principle of reciprocity that is anything to accuse someone of being a stupid moe-foe over.
@G Will Well, I agree with you to a point regarding the world "know" and I probably wouldn't have stated what the other guy said in such strong terms. I probably would have said something like the fact that people find it necessary to write volumes upon volumes in an attempt to rationalize their faith is probably a pretty good indication that it's false. The word science actually derives from the Latin for "to know." And I think is an apt name for the discipline as it appears to be the best tool we've ever develop for gaining reliable information about the nature of reality. I'd probably admit that it's biased towards pragmatic truths and we should be careful to distinguish between those and correspondence truths. However, from amore philosophical point of view, in terms of worldviews, it seems to me that naturalism and theism are about the only games in town, and naturalism wins the parsimony contest hands-down. That very well may not allow us absolute certainty as to the truth of naturalism and falsity of theism, but it certainly, IMO, at the very least makes it ridiculous to say that naturalism is some kind of foolishness. I really think that people should consider that there are people of genius level IQ who come down on either side on this issue. That fact to me indicates that there cannot be anything in either worldview that makes it foolish or ridiculous to believe.
Bob Whelan, EXACTLY!!! That’s why Greg promotes a non-confrontational approach so the atheist will slowly come to realize the nonsense of their own position.
"When I notice that somebody else is obscuring with words I realize they probably don't have good reasons they can offer for their view because they are trying to make their case using a lot of noise." -Greg Koukl (46:06) Way to trash your own narrative! Or should people just assume you can not make good arguments for your views because you've written an entire book about, generating conversational noise?
I read part of the new version and I came across a part where he uses a female pronoun to make his point and I have to say, it was abrupt and unnatural.
@@kevinschaefer3945 I know there are many different God concepts and faith traditions out there. I was inviting any God who exists to step forward from out of shadows to eliminate all the confusion and set the world straight.👈😐
@@davidlenett8808 God isn't entitled to step out for you. And He is acting on the world, but progressively. To mistake His act for something immediate and direct, you are asking Him to get rid of you and me.
