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Disgusting Dual-Pancake Locomotive from eBay - Will it Run? 

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I was browsing eBay and I found an old project locomotive someone had clearly put some effort into. It didn't appear to be in great shape so not many people showed up to the auction and I was able to get the loco for under $10.
After unboxing it, it was clear just how many changes had been made to the loco. It seems like someone combine two mid 80s pancake drives to up the pulling capacity. The wiring was a mess and one of the motors wasn't able to get power anymore.
This is far from the most tricky repair I've done but it did need some TLC to get it running again.

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@QueenMaryStan
@QueenMaryStan 9 месяцев назад
You could probably send Harrison a destroyed loco, with only a speck of it remaining, and he’d manage to repair it. Amazing work as usual.
@vincentandhimi6990
@vincentandhimi6990 9 месяцев назад
One second it's parts next second it's running
@garysprandel1817
@garysprandel1817 9 месяцев назад
He literally took the lemons of some ( IIRC) Tyco E7s that were smashed to bits in the post and Frankensteined into an absurdly long but functional locomotive.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Thanks. I have been defeated by a few but I try my best.
@eugenb.8448
@eugenb.8448 9 месяцев назад
@@SMTMainlineIs the PO Box you provided in a video a few years back still the right one? I’d like to donate a bunch of model train stuff I have.
@Benthetrainkid
@Benthetrainkid 9 месяцев назад
They were F7s though@@garysprandel1817
@maxdragon91
@maxdragon91 9 месяцев назад
The patina on that locomotive would make a great diorama of an old siding with overgrown foliage.
@DarthSantaFe
@DarthSantaFe 9 месяцев назад
For a moment there I was afraid one of the motors had the same problem as one of my old Bachmann pancake motors! It ignited itself and burned out in the most literal sense.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
I thought that might have happened for a moment as well. In retrospect, I think one of the pickup wires was shorted badly while it was drifting and started to burn up under 4 amps of power.
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 9 месяцев назад
Those motors sure do look like the motors found on Bachmann’s train set locomotives. I had a Bachmann F40 and 3 passenger cars painted for Amtrak and the locomotive had one motor that looked exactly like the motors on the FA. The F40 only had the front truck powered. The rear truck was for electrical pickup only. Whoever worked on the FA before must have had a spare locomotive and used another motored truck for the rear. I don’t know if Bachmann still offers these kinds of engines? I know they had higher quality engines with a central motor and all wheel drive but these cost more. Now they have engines with good detail and can motors and even sound.
@lotsatrains
@lotsatrains 9 месяцев назад
I like it 👍 looks like a rusty old locomotive that’s been sitting in the train yard for many years 😎
@Different_Letter9835
@Different_Letter9835 9 месяцев назад
It even has realistic smoke effects! Truly one of the most high quality locomotives ever featured on this channel. :P
@cmdrflake
@cmdrflake 9 месяцев назад
This creature deserves the name Guy Fawkes!
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 9 месяцев назад
DUEL pancake motors eh? As in the title. If you can stop the motors fighting each other you might then have a DUAL drive locomotive. LOL. Agree with you about the Athearn alternative. Even in Australia, the blue box Athearns were such good value it amazed me that people sometimes paid extra for the pancake and traction tyre alternatives. Even saving a few bucks for those inferior designd seems false economy in the long term. Just looked at your Life Like Tea Kettle repair. A much superior video than todays Sams Train approah to one he just posted. Could not get it running but his fans are paying over $100 for it on a well known auction site.
@avlisk
@avlisk 9 месяцев назад
The Athearn Blue Box locos are the cockroaches of HO locos. . .nothing can kill them and they will run forever. There's a reason so many designs fell by the wayside and the basic Athearn one lives on today in most new locos. PS Duel is a really fun Spielberg movie from the start of his career. Would make a good modeling project, too.
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 9 месяцев назад
I’ll bet someone took two Tyco/Mantua EMD F7s and cut off and combined the front halves (which would explain the incorrect Bloomberg-M/B truck side frames) together, then found an Alco FA body shell to put on it. At least this way, it gives you all-wheel electrical pickup and all the wheels are driven. 😊
@whip-its_dad4239
@whip-its_dad4239 9 месяцев назад
The " stunts ' remark gave me a good , thank you . Crazy little engine that you got going .Good work .
@thythethy9590
@thythethy9590 9 месяцев назад
Hey Man! Been A While Since I've Checked Out Your Channel, Man It's Grown A lot, Super Duper Proud Of You, keep it up! God bless
@modelrailfan37
@modelrailfan37 9 месяцев назад
13:06 I think Hornby need to introduce this locomotive into their range and make it their “Smokey Joe” 😂
@johnellick7362
@johnellick7362 9 месяцев назад
I look forward to watching you work you magic with those half wrecked locomotives. You do great work. Even at my age I've learned a great deal from watching your repair videos.
@paulbervid1610
@paulbervid1610 9 месяцев назад
Outstanding work as always Harrison.
@swiv99
@swiv99 5 месяцев назад
the train whisperer, another successful repair....weathering looks great on it too.
@ginaklein8964
@ginaklein8964 9 месяцев назад
Very fun video, and still learning from your ability to bring a recked locomotive back to life!!!!!
@alcopower5710
@alcopower5710 9 месяцев назад
Well done Harrison 👍 you never fail to amaze me with your repair skills
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Thanks. This reminded me a bit of that dual motor tyco project I saw on your channel a while back.
@MozanaRN
@MozanaRN 9 месяцев назад
I would name this locomotive the Smoking Alco! Excellent job getting the ole girl running again.
@mr-meek
@mr-meek 9 месяцев назад
12:54 MULTI TRACK DRIFTING!
@MattKonsol
@MattKonsol 9 месяцев назад
Very amazing Restoration on this alco fa diesel harrison even it had alittle smoke show earlier with the insulation while running it. A model power fa on a bachmann chassis. Very unusual.
@RaccoonOrSmthin
@RaccoonOrSmthin 9 месяцев назад
I like the look of it, It looks like it's a ghost engine that has been left in a junkyard for years.
@animalyze7120
@animalyze7120 9 месяцев назад
I've done the double pancake setup on quite a few engines and they always end up working, running flawlessly. Great pulling power especially for brass wheels. I never cut one in half for whatever reason they did but it seems to work lol. Definitely would have purple bathed that unit and repainted it completely. Great video!
@crsrdash-840b5
@crsrdash-840b5 9 месяцев назад
Great work. Shall we call this a rebuilt model of FA2-DM. Assign it to excursion or switching duties.
@keepamericayisraelgreat5708
@keepamericayisraelgreat5708 9 месяцев назад
That was pretty great watching you put back the train together.
@ronaldstokes4841
@ronaldstokes4841 8 месяцев назад
I'm amazed, Brother... couldn' take my eyes off your work. She's goin' around with power, pullin' freight. One thing... treat 'er right, this beauty needs a paint job. Looks like an old sixties yard switcher with mud-covered livery. Put some lipstick on 'er.
@Scagguy4014
@Scagguy4014 9 месяцев назад
Every video thumbnail I see I always think “it most likely will run” Then scroll past . Then I think “but what if it doesn’t” Then click the video
@sams2960
@sams2960 9 месяцев назад
free smoke effects 🤣 You are a magician!
@4everdc302
@4everdc302 9 месяцев назад
I've been known to weather a little heavy,but lol.. It's a Mad Max Alco. It's new name. Rachet chapter of the SMT manual.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Yep, they didn't hold back with making it look rough.
@kaikuklik9748
@kaikuklik9748 9 месяцев назад
Nice job 👍🏻 That nasty thing looks a little bit like the F-Unit from "Runaway Train" 😎
@rayvaul3539
@rayvaul3539 Месяц назад
Dang maybe why it burned the wires, it was working a little too well. Lol! Good job SMT! I’m a new subscriber by the way! I am throughly impressed by your repair and working skills on model trains. You could probably fix an infinite amount of engines maybe one that only with the shell and a broken motor. It was pretty interesting seeing to work on the FA-1 unit. I used to have a small Bachman set but I gave it away after most of the engines stopped working when I was 6 or 7 years younger. I had and 2-6-0 switcher steam locomotive and it stopped working after a while and didn’t know what went on with it so I threw it away and didn’t know how to fix it. But I should have looked at a tutorial on how to fix these things.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline Месяц назад
I'm glad it was the power leads burning up and not the coils, for what it is it seems to run pretty well. Those 2-6-0 are not super reliable, sometimes are they fixable but I've had one since 2006 and its had many issues.
@garyrendano4717
@garyrendano4717 9 месяцев назад
pretty cool. glad u got it working :)
@Bryson-iy7mg
@Bryson-iy7mg 9 месяцев назад
That’s a nice locomotive and good job working on it
@davidorr8645
@davidorr8645 9 месяцев назад
Be careful letting out the magic smoke!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Yep, once the genie is out of the bottle it will never go back.
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel 9 месяцев назад
Very nice video. Thanks for posting this.
@Canadianmann
@Canadianmann 9 месяцев назад
me and my fellas already wanting another “well folks”
@bernardbyrd8024
@bernardbyrd8024 9 месяцев назад
I liked the video .loved the rachet comment you were stuntin thanks made my day bro great content Im hooked
@PapaMav
@PapaMav 5 месяцев назад
Luv the Marlboro Man mention.
@sergioarroyoguerrero5434
@sergioarroyoguerrero5434 7 дней назад
I love FA1 locomotive in HO scale. Good job in fix you locomotive.
@chrisgurney2467
@chrisgurney2467 9 месяцев назад
Wouldn't be a proper Alco without a cloud of smoke 😂
@Thunderboltsiren1000alt
@Thunderboltsiren1000alt 9 месяцев назад
"BABE, GET UP SMT POSTED A NEW VIDEO!"
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Haha
@franksabatine9075
@franksabatine9075 7 месяцев назад
The weathering looks cool , makes it look old
@popcat2214
@popcat2214 9 месяцев назад
It looks like me on Monday mornings😂
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Oof
@ironmarlin8
@ironmarlin8 9 месяцев назад
Use it as the lead locomotive for a haunted train during a Halloween live stream!
@Terminatorfan1984REAL
@Terminatorfan1984REAL 9 месяцев назад
Looks like something you'd see in a yard
@EastonsRailHunting
@EastonsRailHunting 9 месяцев назад
Looks like an old locomotive
@TonyLasagna
@TonyLasagna 9 месяцев назад
Awesome vidya. As always. Not a bad hauler for $10!
@brennanvilcheck9469
@brennanvilcheck9469 9 месяцев назад
Have you ever considered doing a playlist or video series regarding maintenence & repair of older model locomotives/ common ones people might find as non runners or in shops? Asking as i recently got a older Bachmann Mikado, but having issues finding documentation for it, and dont want to just start disassembly to try and get to bearings and gears. Just a idea i think would be interesting/helpful, even if its basic videos on common motors or something.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
I've done some general advice videos but that's it for now. I might start making videos on each brand and their most common failure points.
@georgeallen4495
@georgeallen4495 9 месяцев назад
Didn't realize these things were so simple inside.
@tomrogers9467
@tomrogers9467 8 месяцев назад
Nice set up. Might be the best ten bucks you’ve spent in a while! I think I’d leave it “steampunk style” as it is!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 8 месяцев назад
I don't wanna change the look. Its one of a kind.
@PopaJohn-Trains-ky4sm
@PopaJohn-Trains-ky4sm 9 месяцев назад
wow even a smoke unit
@kcgrailgilbert8466
@kcgrailgilbert8466 9 месяцев назад
SMTmain line wat that redes thing u use too clean the metal wheels wit
@HustleMuscleGhias
@HustleMuscleGhias 8 месяцев назад
The smoking was a near transformation into a fire engine!
@MMRails
@MMRails 9 месяцев назад
Well, now you know where the smell comes from, this loco needs periodic smoke breaks. Ha! That was awesome. Two motors, stunt work, smoke, dirt, solder, hot glue, just awesome.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
That's a good point, I shall christen its name as "Larry Enticer".
@MMRails
@MMRails 9 месяцев назад
@@SMTMainline Lol
@zazaranger5
@zazaranger5 9 месяцев назад
Hey Harrison, are you gonna spruce up the paint a little bit
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 9 месяцев назад
He got the FA to perform awesomely! Well done! I wonder though if there was any ALCO FA that rode on EMD Blomberg trucks? In my limited knowledge I don’t know of any. I guess it could have been possible if old FTs were traded in but it doesn’t seem likely.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
FTs would have been my guess if not an F-unit. It had to have been something the Santa Fe used.
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 9 месяцев назад
@@SMTMainline You’re right.
@JackDangerous
@JackDangerous 9 месяцев назад
MULTI TRACK DRIFTING!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Keep er' driftin'
@epacm50
@epacm50 9 месяцев назад
Awesome! Another Frankenstein Loco!!!
@mclovin2155
@mclovin2155 9 месяцев назад
That moment when you see trains you bid on but didn't win on eBay.
@alanh1406
@alanh1406 9 месяцев назад
It looks like someone tried to make it look like one of the engines from “ Runaway Train” with John Voight and Rebecca De Morney .
@koschkaschroeder6791
@koschkaschroeder6791 9 месяцев назад
i love your stuff but today´s line about marlboro country´s flavour is very very great! nice one, still loughing about. i have two neighbors "flavouring" complete neighborhood...
@ericzaiz8358
@ericzaiz8358 9 месяцев назад
Five bucks says that the motors were reversed from each other with one getting less power then the other.
@themillrunandwesternmaryland11
@themillrunandwesternmaryland11 6 месяцев назад
The 0-4-0 that sits on a set of rails like it's on "static display", what it's story? I have one identical to it that the motor burned out in. Just curious if that happened to yours too?
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 6 месяцев назад
It did funny enough. It's one of my fathers locomotives and I put it on display for many years, I got it running again sometime around 2017 or 18 but since it was already part of the layout it remains there.
@KibuFox
@KibuFox 9 месяцев назад
I'm willing to bet that the original owner had it for some time, and it stopped working, so they weathered it like that and had it in their scrap yard.
@thudtheace
@thudtheace 9 месяцев назад
I like that nasty petina look of the train. Gives it that railkill look (roadkill but for trains).. Cheers!
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
The “general mayhem” comes to mind
@thudtheace
@thudtheace 9 месяцев назад
@@SMTMainline Touche! 😅 Have you ever used an ultrasonic cleaner for cleaning your gears and other parts? I found they work pretty well when restoring old RC cars (i.e. Associated RC10, etc..) Cheers!
@edbateyjr.517
@edbateyjr.517 4 месяца назад
Something out of the film Runaway Train.
@spencercorby4571
@spencercorby4571 9 месяцев назад
You should give some of your locos nicknames, as you said this one smelled funny, you should call it "stinky" and write on the bottom of it with a marker.
@F40M07
@F40M07 9 месяцев назад
Must be a Penn Central…
@jarelerou4996
@jarelerou4996 9 месяцев назад
13:03 is so funny i love your video's 😂😂
@normancoreyBuildingTrains
@normancoreyBuildingTrains 9 месяцев назад
Have not watched video yet but i bet you get it running
@TehJMastuh
@TehJMastuh 7 месяцев назад
Incredible. It would be amazing to see the shell all cleaned up too.. I am wondering now scientifically if anyone has ever 3D printed their locomotive body?
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 7 месяцев назад
I've seen some 3D printed shells. The technology is still developing in that regard.
@TehJMastuh
@TehJMastuh 7 месяцев назад
@@SMTMainline amazing!! Can’t wait to see it. Just sucks because everting so small is made is gigantic factories and it amazes me with the tools we have now we can see things like this come back to life.
@davidmorris7696
@davidmorris7696 9 месяцев назад
A Frankenstein loco!!
@141runn
@141runn 9 месяцев назад
what is the orange tool you're using to clean with?
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
It's a fibreglass pencil.
@chuckwalters4759
@chuckwalters4759 9 месяцев назад
i'd call this the one the marllbro smoker engine.
@bernadettegarbers9552
@bernadettegarbers9552 8 месяцев назад
I don't know if it will work but I think I would tary putting it on an Arthurn powered fram .....
@snagletoothscott3729
@snagletoothscott3729 9 месяцев назад
13:00 It's an Alco, *of course* it's gonna smoke
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Yep, it's got turbo lag lol
@navinbabji
@navinbabji 9 месяцев назад
What is a pancake drive??
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
The motors which are positioned width wise instead of length. As seen in this video
@navinbabji
@navinbabji 9 месяцев назад
@@SMTMainline ohhh ok, so like across the body, rather than inline with the body. 👍👍👍
@strobson1
@strobson1 9 месяцев назад
Help Harrison save it with aloha
@markphillips6154
@markphillips6154 8 месяцев назад
That is quite a rat rod. I think you got your $10 worth out of that.
@beacash7983
@beacash7983 9 месяцев назад
Ay,did you see the meteor shower last night?
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
I wasn't aware one was happening.
@beacash7983
@beacash7983 9 месяцев назад
And i had a winter band concert
@Papa_Shurika
@Papa_Shurika 9 месяцев назад
Hellraiser locomotive
@theenlightenedone1283
@theenlightenedone1283 5 месяцев назад
Cute though
@MichaelHostetler-u3r
@MichaelHostetler-u3r 9 месяцев назад
Nice vid but they took two locos and cut the motor sections off and combined the two. A rather neat idea. Guess I'd prefer my Athearns and Atlas and PROTO 1000 s!!! Hard to beat a PROTO 1000!!! I may be a little prejudiced. HA HA
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Proto has some pretty good products. They must have been ahead of their time in the 90s.
@MichaelHostetler-u3r
@MichaelHostetler-u3r 7 месяцев назад
Like I said "Poor Man's KATO
@ezrafreemantle1824
@ezrafreemantle1824 8 месяцев назад
12:55 ten eighty dog slide
@bobkohl6779
@bobkohl6779 9 месяцев назад
Paint it Canadian, they did run FPAs current paint looks like a dog had an accident on it!
@JessicaBarney-r8s
@JessicaBarney-r8s 9 месяцев назад
Hi again Harrison I sorry i couldn't comment sooner but I actually have a locomotive with a pancake motor. It is a life like locomotive in the war bonnet. i bought it at a train show and it can't do any low speed. Also i heard that your grandmother likes English trains and you want to know more about them. there is a british youtube channel i watch called sams trains and if you want to learn more about british trains he's the guy. And every year he makes a video an talks about his top 5 best and worst model trains. Your pal jacob
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
Those lifelike locomotives aren't known for having very good low speed. If you clean the wheels super well it can help though. Also I've seen Sam's channel before 👍
@danieljarvis3125
@danieljarvis3125 9 месяцев назад
What was the current On this smoke'n beast😈
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
1/4th of an amp.
@corinsol1
@corinsol1 6 месяцев назад
I like your vidoes
@ericzerkle5214
@ericzerkle5214 9 месяцев назад
Looks like someone's dog buried it!
@co8466
@co8466 8 месяцев назад
Wow you're trains gofast what scale are using 🚝🚂 OR🚀s
@harperlarry49
@harperlarry49 9 месяцев назад
The odd ball locomotives always seem to be the most interesting and fun. The dual motors is really interesting/odd. Nice work.
@SMTMainline
@SMTMainline 9 месяцев назад
They are one of a kind. I like how there is only one of each and you never know what you might get.
@kcgrailgilbert8466
@kcgrailgilbert8466 9 месяцев назад
@@SMTMainline wat is that redes thing that u use on ur metal wheels
@casstelles
@casstelles 9 месяцев назад
When the frame was spiced, I bet that they used two Bachmann F9A rear halves to make the frame. This would explain the pancake motors.
@lucyxchan6808
@lucyxchan6808 2 месяца назад
Also looks like they failed to connect the motors in any meaningful way. As long it's not one of the rare ones, im all in for such Frankensteins monsters if the result is nice enough, customisation is the most budget friendly way to get something unique
@josephbennett3482
@josephbennett3482 9 месяцев назад
Man right out of the box the locomotive looked pretty cool , the rusty weathered appearance makes it look like it would be a great industrial yard loco such as a steel mill unit or it could even sit idle on a siding with a bunch of scrap and a run down structure , the possibilities are absolutely endless for that beauty.
@tomrogers9467
@tomrogers9467 8 месяцев назад
Mad Max hits the rails!
@johnthomsen8802
@johnthomsen8802 2 дня назад
You need graffiti on it. That would add to the appearance.
@josephbennett3482
@josephbennett3482 2 дня назад
@@johnthomsen8802 steel mill locomotives and rail cars don't have graffiti on them because steel mills are secured areas and always have workers on site and security on the property watching at all times.
@alanwbelcher
@alanwbelcher 9 месяцев назад
Wow!! Nice save there, SMT! And it even does stunts and has a smoke unit. Plenty of room in there for a sound decoder as well. It looks like someone did a Frankenstein with 2 F-7s. That's an Alco, which would have different trucks; those are EMD style. The stripes on the front look like BN.
@Kanikalion
@Kanikalion 9 месяцев назад
When you pulled that thing open and the Frankenstein was laid bare for all to see... I really did not expect this thing to come back to life, much less come back to life with a vengeance. Well done.
@williammcgeehan3424
@williammcgeehan3424 9 месяцев назад
Those stripes on the front mean Burlington Northern.
@andrewferguson5653
@andrewferguson5653 9 месяцев назад
Another great restoration, SMT! I agree with you, that wiring was a mess, and what caused the smoke? I was afraid one motor had burned out.
@beacash7983
@beacash7983 9 месяцев назад
611 PLEEAASSEE!!!!
@Trains-stuff
@Trains-stuff 9 месяцев назад
It’s amazing how you can have something that is basically not running and get it up and going I always love watching your videos When I saw the engine smoking I thought that it was going to blow up 😂 keep up the great work
@Gug33k69
@Gug33k69 9 месяцев назад
kinda looks like it was in mud
@Lewman211
@Lewman211 9 месяцев назад
That's really not a bad looking locomotive! 🙂
@codygeorge6813
@codygeorge6813 9 месяцев назад
hey smt on my way to my job program i pass a yard in york pa and i se some sort of shunter loco no it's not a normal switcher its a bigger one not sure waht type it is but one day i want to get a pic of to see if you know what kind of loco it is so i know what it is
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