Every single thing Blair did before he was confined to the shack made perfect sense if your goal was to stop the thing from reaching civilization. They filmed an alternate ending with a clear resolution just in case audiences couldn't accept this ending, but they didn't need it.
@@ptthatswhatshesaid Here is a list of some of the best movies ever made. Possibly, you might try one sometime. "Contact," "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (1951 NOT the 2008 remake), “The Dead Zone,” "Deja Vu," "Forbidden Planet," "Frequency," "Gandhi," "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly," "The Green Mile," "Highlander," "Miracle on 34th Street (1947 NOT the remake)," "North by Northwest," The Pink Panther," "Psycho," "Rio Bravo," "Some Like it Hot," "The Time Machine (1960 version)," "2001: A Space Odyssey (hard to understand without reading the book)"
So true. Like,nobody thinks it's weird that they are going to all that trouble to kill a single dog? I mean he'll, even just letting a dog loose in the middle of nowhere would probably be a death sentence after enough time, but chasing them down in a helicopter definitely says that the dog is dangerous in more ways than one
@@lucassmith1886 I used to get similarly frustrated, but it's just a post-COVID pet obsession age we live in. People treat dogs like children and so in their eyes emotionally a dog can never be evil. I grew up viewing dogs like animals that we domesticated, but that's all they are - animals. So to me seeing grown men on a heli desperately trying to shoot a dog triggers a warning bell that something must be off about it. Would they be saying the same thing if it was a fox running off? Probably not. Also how do you start watching a film knowing that it's about an alien, and at no point it crosses your mind that dog might be one?? Basically I'm still annoyed but just let go of it. Besides, the whole reason Carpenter put the dog and started the movie off that way was precisely to provoke the "nooo not my pupper doggo" reaction because he knows how people view pets as person's best friend.
@@rainiwakura2430 I've never been a dog person and I want I saw the guy shooting at the dog, it didn't take me long to suspect that it was somehow associated with the "Thing" either as host or as the "Thing" itself. I don't like that fad of people calling themselves the parents of a pet because that lead them to treat their pet (usually a dog) as something it is not and they often develop behaviorial problems because they're trained as kids instead as dogs.
38:10...It's already been established that Windows is nervous as f*ck so when Palmer-Thing confronts him he's literally paralysed with fear. We can't all be as brave as you mate.
I always assumed that the noose was a sign that Blair was infected. He was OK when he destroyed the equipment to keep the thing from escaping, and was going to hang himself. Thus the noose. But he turned before he could kill himself. An interesting discussion between cast and director was whether someone infected would know it. This was never resolved. And I'm not sure they ever decided what happens after the film ends.
I think The Thing knows full well that it is The Thing. All it's doing is imitating the mannerisms of its victim. We've seen what assimilation looks like - it's bloody & brutal. The thing knows.
Hello Daniel, nice to see you and Lucy!😊 Lucy correctly guessed the dog was The Thing, which most people don't figure out.👏🏻👏🏻 Principal photography took only 12 weeks in Alaska. The special effects took Rob Bottin a whole year to complete, working day and night. He eventually ended up in the hospital from exhaustion. Special effects Master Stan Winston was called in to help complete the big kennel with the dogs and The Thing. Rob Bottin did not receive an Academy Award for this film, but he eventually was given a special Academy Award for his achievements in special effects. The films color tone was originally a soft pink in the theatrical version. When the film was remastered the director of photography supervised the film being converted to a cold blue tone to better suit the cold location of the film. Blair was still human when he destroyed the chopper and the tractor. His intention was to stop The Thing from getting to civilization, as he knew one or more of the crew were already The Thing. FOR LUCY: In the only proposed script for a sequel both Child's and MacReady's bodies are recovered dead, and are apparently human. However, The Things remains are recovered and show signs of life. Great humorous reactions to this film ahead of of its time, Guys!!!!🎬👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I love that Lucy figured out that the dog was the Thing almost straight away. She also figured that Blair might be infected, and that he had stolen parts of the helicopter. Brilliant. Nauls finding MacReady's torn shirt shows that the Thing was trying to frame him. Fuchs found a torn shirt with Mac's name on it, but burnt it when he burned himself. If Mac WERE infected, it would only have happened once, so the second shirt had to have been a set-up. John Carpenter made Kurt Russell smoke at the end to accentuate his breath at the end. Childs is not breathing. Plus, MacReady was throwing molatov cocktails. What is in the bottle that he gave to Childs? Mac DOESN'T drink from it, but he does smile when Childs drinks from it. Diplomacy with the Thing would rely on it having human sensibilities. However, it must be smart, because it was building a spaceship from the pieces of a helicopter.
The Thing is literally mixing and matching intelligences from other species it imitated. It can call them up at will. The Thing calls up an alien intelligence (in the body of Blair) that is capable of building the spaceship.
"the thing" is in the genre of movie known as "body horror" -- where the focus is on (usually) human victims suffering any form of mutilation or dismemberment or degradation. other examples are "frankenstein", "the fly", "hellraiser", "alien", "the mist", "saw" and any movie featuring hannibal lecter.
The rope proved that Blair had become a Thing. If he had put it up and changed his mind, he would have taken it down again. But if he put it up and then changed into a Thing, the Thing might not understand the significance well enough to take it down. A calm, collected Blair says he's better and they should let him out...but the rope is still right there, and he doesn't seem aware of it.
Two scenes with Garry... makes me feel soo sad when he says "But Mac, he was my friend." And I've always loved his sudden shout bout being "tied to the fakkin couch!"
Everybody talks about how terrible of a shot the guy in the helicopter is, but hitting a small, running target from that distance while you're leaning out the side of a helicopter that's also moving has to be incredibly difficult. I'm imagining trying to hit a stationary target under similar conditions (assuming the helicopter is flying past and not just hovering), and that honestly doesn't seem like the easiest thing either.
Yes! Thank you for that. In "Flyboys" the hero kills the villain in air-to-air combat with a handgun. I wanted to throw my drink at the screen. You can NOT hit a target so easily and certainly not with a handgun. It was tried. It failed.
I don’t think that Blair was infected at the time he was sabotaging the helicopter-otherwise, he would have left it intact and used it to fly to another base after infecting one of the pilots. However, he was left alone in the shack for a few days (there are several time skips in the film that aren’t clearly communicated). At any point, a Thing could have gone out to the shack and infected Blair-possibly by giving him contaminated food or water. Once turned, Blair would be a shapeshifter with superhuman strength. This would make breaking out of the shack to collect parts for the UFO easy.
How intelligent the thing is has been something I wonder about. Was it the pilot of the ship or cargo. It seems to be able to speak and plan. It's building a flying saucer. But every time it gets exposed it never tries to talk its way out, just straight to snarling monster. I think it be a lot scarier for it to be intelligent and not just an animal.
At the beginning when you see the dog enter the room with the shadow on the wall. "Wait why didn't you show it" it's because they didn't want to show WHO, so the viewer is suspicious of all. I've heard it was just a film crew member that provided the shadow, to make sure nobody would guess who it was. When Childs says Clark was human so MAC committed murder. Always irritates me. Just a moment before Childs was basically cool murdering MAC when they thought he was the Thing, before he got inside and got his hands on dynamite. Keep him locked out to die and whatnot.
I read that the Norwegian camp scenes were shot after the U.S. base was burned at the end, meaning the director ( John Carpenter ) used the burned set. Brilliant.
@@ptthatswhatshesaid Yes. You're right. I'm just guessing. But I will say why I think so. Because this ship the monster was building was too weak for space travel. Too much hand-made. Too small too. But yeah, also maybe UFO spaceship gauges are irrelevant because maybe flying saucers don't follow the same principle as humans space vehicles. But in the same time It's possible that the Thing want to get out from Earth becau se it has taken too much stress from its contact with Earthlings and it wants to get away from our small, blue (and disgusting ,according to the understandings of the Thing ) planet. But as far as I know the ship that the monster came to earth with at the beginning of the movie was not his ship. It was a ship invaded by him that crashed because the original crew was destroyed by the monster.
Bearing in mind what we later know about the Dog-Thing I think the bloke in the helicopter probably is hitting the D-T but the bullets are having no affect.
Thank you so much for doing this and since we are one month from October The Thing (1982) directed by John Carpenter is my number 1 favorite Halloween movie because it scared me and disturbed me no other Halloween movie has ever come close to disturbing me as The Thing (1982) directed by John Carpenter as well:).
Mac said he was hiding the tape he recorded about what was going on, hopefully it didn't get destroyed as well. There actually, besides some comics, was a video game that was a sequel to this movie. I never got to play it though. Allegedly it was meant to give you the paranoia and suspicions of everyone as you played it, that the movie did. I love the open ending of this, as well as the possibility that evil wins, at the time I first saw this, I hadn't seen many movies that did this. Usually the good guys always have to win.
For Lucy's next gore fix I'd recommend Re-animator (1985), a true classic of the genre. And also how about Dead Alive (Braindead) (1992), she can see what Peter Jackson what doing before his Lord of the Rings trilogy. A hint, it was very different.
There is a prequel. I actually enjoyed it. Lots of people hate it. I always say, if I like something, I want more of it. And The Thing is prolly in my top five favorite movies ever. They actually made it with physical special effects, but the studio made them enhance with cgi which was a big bummer. A little enhancement would maybe been fine but they really over did it in spots. Despite this I don't think the cgi was really that bad, though it can be obvious in spots. I just really appreciated the fact they went thru this original film and sought to explain all the things Topper and Mac found at the Norg base. In fact when I watched behind the scenes and they explicitly stated this, I liked the prequel even more. The only thing that I didn't like as much is sometimes the Thing in scenes looks a bit too insectoid, when I think it should have been more amorphous. People are free to disagree with me about the prequel, of course.
Im so sorry, but in this case I do have to disagree xD I thought it was a very, very meh movie let's say. Watched it once and never bothered to rewatch it since I found it a bit pointless tbh. But that was my experience with it of course!
This movie reminds of another Sci-fi movie: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers (1979) starring Donald Sutherland, Leonard Nimoy and Jeff Goldblum, certainly recommended.
The Thing / Prince of dakness / In the mouth of madness are calles "Apocalypse trilogy, meaning humanity dies in the end, whether McReady or Childs or both are contaminated, the Thing will win
Oh, you've gone in the deep dive.😁 The thing was based on the novella: "Who Goes There." And Rob Bottin did much of the Thing's effects spec on Norris spider-head from "The Thing" remake (1982) which you were watching now. John Carpenter did a great job with casting, scripting, cinematography, photography, lighting. This is one of Carpenter's best films. And after so many years I finally figured out who the thing really was.😁 I recommend more Carpenter movies. Watch everything on Carpenter. You won't regret it. But if you want you watch Carpenter "body bags". This one is a great one. Also "Escape from LA" is his. Or "Big Trouble in Little China." Every single one of them is with Kurt Russell (McReady). Without body bags. And simply because you mentioned: "The Fifth Element". I was 9 years old when it was announced here that my countryman had participated in making effects for "5 element". I will never forget how my heart sank and I didn't want to go to school and I watched "The Fifth Element" all day. But for me, The Fifth Element movie has always gone side by side with Lost in Space. For their time, these two films were "almost for teenagers". The youth movies of the time. Movies that you can relax and enjoy without taking on too much stress during the process. It's funny how there are no equivalents these days. But Bruce Willis never takes parts in bullshit, so The Fifth Element is for a serious audience. Not mediocre teen crap like AVP. So yes, I recommend both. Great reaction. Nice to watch.
By the way, I love your open discussion at the end of each movie. That discussion is amazing. And it shows your concern or lack of interest (both are normal). But I assure you (at least the girl), you watched the Thing, but you didn't see the Nothing😁, because this movie is full of doors that a person misses all the time without even knowing that there are doors there. So the question is not only open-ended. But also filling the action itself. One must look repeatedly and carefully: "look at it carefully, but look at it closely"to see. But a viewer must also know where to look to see. By the way, in the game based on the movie, your character has a "fear counter" so at the end of the game your broach scale is always red, which means your character is almost crazy because of fear and everywhere he sees the thing monsters. So you don't rush to waste your last ammo in this game because very often you see hallucinations born of your broken mind instead of real monsters, but your bullets are wasted for real.
By the way (for the third or fourth time), you had good suggestions for action if you were in a movie. 😁That was the point. So a movie has got you. Which is great. Because in FB there is often a Christmas card that pops up around the Christmas holidays. And on this card are McCriddy and the rest of the team standing on the snowy background of their base in Antarctica, and the text under the photo reads: "We miss you. We wish you were here." Now if you see this card for this year's Christmas Holidays (and all other Christmases from here on out) you will know what it means and its message.
@@ptthatswhatshesaid That's weird. RU-vid seems to be rejecting some of my comments. I had explained the meaning of FB. FB is a Fan Base. But it also means Face Book - social network. But RU-vid seems to delete comments containing references (links or names of pages and platforms). That's why this time I misspelled the name of Face Book in the hope that RU-vid will not delete this comment of mine as well. So yes. This is the meaning of the abbreviation FB. 😁 So the next time you come across the Christmas Card Thing on FB, you'll know its meaning! Cheers and channel success! nice to watch.😎
@@ptthatswhatshesaid Hell, I'm not sure why RU-vid is deleting my replies. FB means for social network FB. And it also means a fan base. So the next time you see the "The Thing Christmas Card" you will know its meaning.
i heard it was because he had a heart condition and had a pacemaker and the alien can't mimic artificial things like filling pacemakers metal hip replacements so thats why he had the heart attack
Neither of you are listening to the movie in stereo. 😢 I'd humbly suggest you don't share a set of earbuds. Your ears are missing stuff! Better to listen with external speakers if you can't get two sets of earbuds. Not a criticism-- i just want you guys get the full experience when you watch new movies. 😁
I always laugh my ass of when i watch a reaction video for The Thing and reactors automatically say don't shoot the dog. Never why are they trying to shoot the dog. This automatic reaction despite Knowing it's a movie and despite it being called The Thing. If something like this movies storyline actually happens we are losing atlest 65% of the population in less then 48 hours.
i see you didn't catch that windows dropped the keys when he ran from the room ... so at that point anyone could have gotten to the blood the first assimilated was palmer the guy with the jean jacket vest and if you are interested they have a sequel in comic book form ... do not watch the prequel ... it was just bad
I think Norris is the first one assimilated as we see Palmer and Childs watching videos and, if Palmer had been taken over, he would have assimilated Childs then (and Childs is still human when we get to the blood tests). Palmer gets assimilated off screen.
I don't think "you" would still exist, as you would have the memory of being attacked and you could warn the others. If you were still in there and couldn't affect anything then it would be truly terrifying.
It makes perfect sense why Blair would consider hanging himself. He knows that if any of them get back to civilization, the thing could spread to the rest of the world, and he knows the thing will probably get to him when he's alone by himself, and he doesn't want to die that way. If you think about it, it's a horrible way to die, getting assimilated, feeling its tendrils in your body taking over bit by bit of you, knowing that you're dying and it will soon pretend to be you to take over all your friends..
no it doesn't. he knows the thing can takeover cells so even if his brain is dead it could take over his body, e.g. the two faced thing. he was dumb. Fuchs was the smart one because he burned himself thus preventing any chance of turning. He was also the one to read Blair's notes and to alert Mac instead of being a bitch and not explaining anything to the rest, which would save lives. Every single reaction video people keep hyping Blair up as if he's some kinda genius. Mf'er was putting a pencil with the thing cells on it into his mouth. He could alert the medic early enough to preserve the blood samples in a hidden location and devise a test early on. He didn't. Mac did even after things seemed dire. Communication is one of key responsibilities of any scientist. Drinking yourself to death in despair isn't. Mac sacrificed himself and others in order to prevent it from spreading instead of moping around and sabotaging others like Blair. The fact that he is the final villain and basically the reason their operation failed (as he likely infected Childs) is already enough of an indicator that he was a failure.
@@rainiwakura2430 Except why would Blair tell the rest of the crew what he knew if he wasn't sure who was infected. Fuchs blabbed to MacReady without knowing if Mac was already a Thing...now that's dumb.
@@eddhardy1054 what exactly would happen if you told the thing that it's the thing? it's already acting stealthily and on high alert. you didn't refute anything else I said.
@@rainiwakura2430 If you told the group exactly what you knew it would give the Thing a very good reason to target you directly, get you on your own and assimilate you ASAP. Blair played things in the best way he could. He kept quiet and when the right moment arrived he did everything he could to isolate the camp and prevent the Thing from escaping. The only reason MacReady achieved what he did is because of the time Blair bought him. Blair's the hero of the film inspite of what some folks think.
@@eddhardy1054 he barely isolated the camp in any way other than destroying the heli. the thing could hibernate until rescue team inevitably arrives. also he himself after being assimilated started building a saucer to escape. so it was pointless other than buying some time. if Mac failed it would have all the time in the world to compensate for it. As I said by keeping EVERYONE in the dark he sabotages his own efforts. Even if probability of one or more members being infected is 75% that leaves large majority of the team being human. They eventually learned of it, but by that time the thing had plenty of time to infect others. As soon as Mac realized the situation he took steps to address it, which is kill things, devise a test after failure of the first test, maintaining leadership, and finally blowing up the base because that was the only way to get rid of it. Norwegians realized the exact same thing and only failed because the dog got out. Just holing up in the room and screaming at others while drinking whiskey isn't saving anyone. That's my point. My second point is that by being a coward and failing to torch himself he became what he feared, the smartest instance of the thing. Look at the result of Fuchs telling Mac, he still got bodied by (likely) Palmer-thing in the dark. My other point is that the thing was going to assimilate them all anyway, so not informing them only makes things worse. His reaction is understandable and human. However he isn't a hero of the movie by any measure. Mac is.
It's actually not as open ended as you think, that's kinda the mind game of the movie. McReady was infected all along. The first thing the dog did was lick Noris's face and gloves, then McReady gives him the scotch before running off to help. When Noris drank from the bottle he passed it to the bottle and McReady drinks from it later. At the end he passes the bottle to Childs and sighs in relief because he just infected Childs and won. Everything he did in the movie was for his own survival including killing others infected, as they explained in the blood test scene each thing is it's own organism and will act on it's own to survive.
Do not apologize for the animal love. I'm an old fashioned male in his 50's and don't have too many emotions watching movies. However, I cannot see any animals (in real life) hurt either. However, I can see humans get offed and tortured all day long.
I've never quite understood people like that. I'm the opposite. But I do feel for animals. But it's easier to watch an animal die than one of my own kind.
I also find much easier to watch animais die (did see a lot of them being put down since a lot of relatives lived in the country, maybe that helped). Lucy, on the other hand is the opposite, she can watch humans kill each other with ease, but not animals.
Im sorry, in the case of this film I thought the gory parts were a bit to much of an essencial part of the movie to just have them blurred or removed 😅
Thank you. This movie, along with "Prince of Darkness" (1987), and "In the Mouth of Madness" (1994) both of which are worth viewing, form the director John Carpenter's Apocalypse Trilogy. I would like to suggest that you watch Mr. Carpenter's second movie "Assault on Precinct 13" (1976), it was shot on a low budget but features many of the director's flourishes, and is often brought up in film school as an example of his work and what can be achieved on a low budget.
Watching "The Thing" is a fond childhood memory for me. John Carpenter is one of my favorite directors, and "Assault on Precinct 13" is the movie by him that I like the most.
Nice reaction. Everybody falls for the dog at the beginning. Then chaos in ensues. Also no animals were injured while filming. They're all practical effects with Mechanical Animals
Carpenter himself has stated this is an "apocalyptic" film. There are cellular remains of the Thing at both the Norwegian and American camps. ...and that whole giant spaceship is still just sittin' there... When the rescue teams arrive, the world ends. Whether Mac and/or Childs is infected is irrelevant, and Carpenter left it ambiguous very purposefully.
I'm glad you saw that movie poster because the tagline on another one was "Man is the warmest place to hide", which kinda gives it away a little bit. Also, the flower looking thing that rips out of the dog was actually made of multiple dog tongues and rows of dog teeth. Also, when Mac and Blair (the doc) first leave in the helicopter Kurt Russell was actually flying it during the take off. He had finished his heli pilot training the same year and wanted to do the take off himself. Oh, and 27000 hours is 1125 days or 3 years & 1 month. Great reaction as always. 👍 Much love from the UK. ❤🤙
Lucy's frustration with the way the movie ended was funny. Daniel is 100% correct here; the ending was intentional. It's what makes the movie the cult classic it has become, even 40 years after.
Bit of trivia--the Norwegians at the beginning of the movie pretty much give the entire movie away, if you speak Norwegian. They're trying to warn the Americans about the dog-monster-thing. 😀 When I was younger, I disliked the ambiguity of the ending, but these days I've come to like it. The real enemy was never the Thing--the real enemy was paranoia. In the end, it didn't matter who was or wasn't the thing; mistrust, fear, the breakdown of basic humanity--the real enemy, the Thing's ability to turn people against each other, already won. In the end, who was what just didn't matter. Having said that, in my opinion, neither are the Thing. There's no reason for the Thing to not leap onto the other one right then and there. No one else is around, so it doesn't have to hide; it had no problem leaping at people when alone as it didn't care about hiding in that circumstance. Further, it had no reason to keep a human around, as it already displayed the intelligence and ability to manipulate its environment enough to cobble together a bloody space ship. No need to hide, no need for humans; again, I find it more likely that neither are the Thing. Incidentally, I'm with Daniel regarding the Thing's intelligence. It was clearly _leagues_ smarter than humans. It was building a _space ship,_ which showed technical capability, ration, logic, planning, foresight--that it was a slobbering blood-monster has no bearing on its intelligence, any more than your hair color does for yours. Further, it was capable of perfect mimicry, and more than just appearance. Think about all the little details--cadence to voice, habits and uirks, bearing, mien--all these little things that are impossible for another human being to replicate perfectly. Plus, it was capable of holding conversations, so however you want to say it figured out how to understand the language in the first place, being able to hold conversations shows intelligence, attention, ration, consideration--there's a reason humans want to believe that only humans are capable of actual language. Communication, sharing ideas and concepts via _sounds_ made from the _mouth,_ is incredibly difficult, so we want to think we're the only ones who figured it out. It's always dangerous to try applying human standards to something that isn't human. There's the old saying about not judging a book by its cover, and this is the perfect example of that adage. Further incidentally, I'm with Lucy about animals. I don't really take that kind of thing well, either, but this being a fictional movie, I can more or less go with it. As for horror movies, one franchise I always recommend is the _Puppet Master_ series. It's insane. 😄 The first two movies are sort of serious, though filled with ludicrous deaths and fountains of blood. The rest of the franchise stopped trying to be any kinds of serious and leapt into the absurd with open arms. I _love_ that franchise. 😁 🏳🌈🖖
The Thing is definitely inteligent right? Or at the very least as inteligent as its hosts. I wonder if it can accumulate knowledge from different subjects 🤔 Never seen any Puppet Master movies, tbh I had never heard of it!! Why am I still still surprised with the ammount of things I AM unaware of xD
If you want to know what happened to MacReady and Chiles, you have to play The Thing on Playstation 2. It's aknowledged by John Carpenter and it's an official sequel to the movie. 😉
The difference between norwegians and the swedish is pretty much the same as between the portuguese dnd the spanish, except that norwegian and swedish languages are closer and more muhually understandable between speakers. Norwegians dont like to be mistaken for swedish the same portuguese dont like being confused with spanish but in both cases they are also good neighbours and friend nations.
Yes, I kinda guesses it would be along those lines xD but had no idea that their languages were more mutually understandable than portuguese-spanish 🤔 interesting
As far as someone being a good shooter or not…I was active duty US Army for 21 years..one year US Army Rifle Team…a year in Korea in the DMZ..leading patrols every 3 days as a scout..(Platoon Sergeant)…a year and a half as Battalion Ammo NCO..TESTED a new tank for a year and a half…the shooter would have been better off putting 25mm rounds down range..and you always lead your target..went to Vietnam…two things…I’ve been around weapons of all caliber..early on if they knew and had access…a tactical nuke would have fixed the deadly problem…this was in color…the 1951 version of The Thing was just as scary…and there were some survivors…and lastly …some people are too pretty for this kind of work…was going to say…maybe it’s the eyes…or a combination of eyes and voice…who knows?
The template for this film is the film "The Thing from Another World" from 1951. The older film also deals with the question "who or what is this thing". Then you also know why the “thing” was able to survive for over 100,000 years. A first-class film with first-class actors in b/w. This is a great benefit to the old film. The film here had significantly more special effects and shows the effects on the psyche of those affected. From the year 1982 when the film was released, it had cult status among us fans (I'm 62 years old). This continues to this day. The 1951 film as well. For me the films are almost equal.
Great reaction. Wanna see what happened at the Norwegian Camp? Check out the prequel. (The Thing, 2011) The effects are not as good, but a very entertaining and compelling film nonetheless. Gratitude.
