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Disinformation and the Southport Incident 

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The people of Southport suffered a tragic event on July 29th, 2024 when an attacker entered a ballet class with a knife. The attacker was later identified by a website called "Channel3Now.com" to be "Ali Al-Shakati," but there are a few problems with the claim.
1. The attacker was 17 years old. The names of minors cannot be released by the police while the case is ongoing.
2. The name "Ali Al-Shakati" is not a common Arab name, and may be a nonsense word.
3. The attacker is claimed to be from Rwanda, which has a very small muslim population.
4. There is no address or phone contact information on the Channel3Now.com website - only an email address and a contact form. There is also no record of them on LinkedIn.
5. MI5, not MI6 would deal with domestic terrorists.
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@RyanMcBethProgramming
@RyanMcBethProgramming Месяц назад
The uncensored video can be found here: open.substack.com/pub/ryanmcbeth/p/the-southport-stabbing-attack-and?r=20h0ql&showWelcomeOnShare=true The people of Southport suffered a tragic event on July 29th, 2024 when an attacker entered a ballet class with a knife. The attacker was later identified by a website called "Channel3Now.com" to be "Ali Al-Shakati," but there are a few problems with the claim. 1. The attacker was 17 years old. The names of minors cannot be released by the police while the case is ongoing. 2. The name "Ali Al-Shakati" is not a common Arab name, and may be a nonsense word. 3. The attacker is claimed to be from Rwanda, which has a very small muslim population. 4. There is no address or phone contact information on the Channel3Now.com website - only an email address and a contact form. There is also no record of them on LinkedIn. 5. MI5, not MI6 would deal with domestic terrorists. It is likely that this website is run to trick views into click on or viewing ads. For uncensored video, check out my substack at: ryanmcbeth.substack.com Like my shirts? Get your own at: www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/ryan-mcbeth Want a personalized greeting: www.cameo.com/ryanmcbeth Watch all of my long form videos: ru-vid.com/group/PLt670_P7pOGmLWZG78JlM-rG2ZrpPziOy Twitter: @ryanmcbeth Instagram: @therealryanmcbeth BlueSky @ryanmcbeth Reddit: /r/ryanmcbeth Join the conversation: discord.gg/pKuGDHZHrz Want to send me something? Ryan McBeth Productions LLC 8705 Colesville Rd. Suite 249 Silver Spring, MD 20910 USA
@matthewjohnson9643
@matthewjohnson9643 Месяц назад
Hey will you do a video on ai generated misinfo happening in the 2024 election?
@turtle-frogs
@turtle-frogs Месяц назад
​@matthewjohnson9643 Anything that's Ai generated take with a grain of salt.
@tsuchinokoz5036
@tsuchinokoz5036 Месяц назад
I figured staff = AI much of the time
@kjyost
@kjyost Месяц назад
I assume you ran Whois etc on the registration / Domain registry too. You know the basics, but I assume you got nothing.
@andrewmurrieta936
@andrewmurrieta936 Месяц назад
Good job!
@MrAlseas
@MrAlseas Месяц назад
Having you cover an event that has happened
@pauliemc2010
@pauliemc2010 Месяц назад
Same mate. Was in Southport on the Sunday and again on the day it happened. Sad.
@Spotted_liver
@Spotted_liver Месяц назад
So who was the killer?
@simonp37
@simonp37 Месяц назад
@@Spotted_liver The arrested person was born in Cardiff, Wales. Beyond that, it's against the law for the police to reveal the identity, as he's under 18 years old, and consider a 'child' in UK courts.
@Knox-umbra
@Knox-umbra Месяц назад
I was thinking the same thing ngl
@DestroyTeamAvolition
@DestroyTeamAvolition Месяц назад
Live 1k away from the Coolock protest/riot site in Dublin. Supper weird seeing people you know on tv and hearing the misreporting on all media. edit: And worked 50m away from where the 5yo was stabbed in Dublin last year which set of the riots. Again hearing from eyewitness stuff that contradicted what was on social media.
@Forscythe80
@Forscythe80 Месяц назад
Australian here. I've used this channel to try to explain DIP and similar to an idiot at work who constantly buys into the Russian propaganda machine, esp with regards to Ukraine's invasion. Sadly, he's too far gone to wise up, bit now, and then RMcB videos do get through. Keep up the good fight.
@Shybairnsgetnowt1
@Shybairnsgetnowt1 Месяц назад
It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled, just look at the Trump supporters in the USA.
@somelokyguy6466
@somelokyguy6466 Месяц назад
Australian here. I've had the exact same experience as you. My co-worker always brings up politics at work and has fallen so far into contrarianism that he subconsciously believes *anything* that goes against mainstream media *must* be true. He's a great family man but since modern politics is designed to be so divisive, he's only getting worse and it makes me concerned.
@reece5863
@reece5863 Месяц назад
QLD checking in, Initially I fell for the whole "anything against msm is good" routine. Really regret running my mouth. Never stop trying to win people over with rational data / fact based truth.
@bzipoli
@bzipoli Месяц назад
God bless you all for your patience. i could never
@wolfbad512
@wolfbad512 Месяц назад
Hopefully he can understand some day
@wasakawakawaka2028
@wasakawakawaka2028 Месяц назад
“Hotel for vampires” the chair fits into that category as well
@cloudycolacorp
@cloudycolacorp Месяц назад
like a sombre version of dracula flow
@Acidlib
@Acidlib Месяц назад
Yeah, looks straight out of some weird gothic version of Star Trek imo lmao
@richardhockey8442
@richardhockey8442 Месяц назад
maybe they need to market the hotel to people who attend the Whitby Goth festival every year
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen Месяц назад
"Selling outrage for ads is a new low" Nah, Rupert Murdoch has done that for years. And in a way, so has Steven Bannon.
@Benjamin-vm8di
@Benjamin-vm8di Месяц назад
All mainstream media has been doing it for years.
@Rampart.X
@Rampart.X Месяц назад
And what The Guardian does to tilt the political table.
@chrisbeauvais7499
@chrisbeauvais7499 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@RandomDudeOne
@RandomDudeOne Месяц назад
And Alex Jones. What he did to the parents of the kids killed at Sandy Hook................
@qtheplatypus
@qtheplatypus Месяц назад
Also MI5/MI6 are secretive organisations. They are not going to publish who is on their watch list.
@shauncroman9475
@shauncroman9475 Месяц назад
Ryan, as a Southport resident and long time follower of your channel. I thank you for posting this. Keep up the good work that does good.
@jiros00
@jiros00 Месяц назад
The court has now revealed his name as he is 18 in six days time. It's Axel Rudakubana.
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU Месяц назад
True, some people found it difficult to understand the default position in law is to not name suspects who are under 18, until a court order releases their name in the public interest. This protects teens and kids who are wrongly accused. Since it was very clear the evidence points to him as the perpetrator and he's so close to his birthday, and the horrific nature of the crime, the court rightly released his name publicly.
@smithsmith9926
@smithsmith9926 Месяц назад
@@G1NZOUyeah the news some bias with this. If it was a white native such as the schoolboy who had a fight with a Muslim at school they have no issue with pointing people to where to find the info ie Jeremy Vine
@Raz.C
@Raz.C Месяц назад
You're correct, Ryan. According to my (admittedly limited) knowledge of Semitic languages, "Shakati" does indeed mean "My apartment." "Al Shakati" just makes it sound nonsensical, meaning "The My Apartment."
@trianglemoebius
@trianglemoebius Месяц назад
While that's a correct literal translation, the prefix being used here isn't actually "al-" (ال), it's "Āl-" (آل) with the accent mark removed for easier English printing. The latter is an Arabic construction used to mark a tribal (or, in modern times, family) name. This is pretty common in English-speaking countries writing Arabic names, for example "Āl-Saud" is not "The Saud", even if written without the accent mark. EDIT: Āl is closer to "of".
@mallardofmodernia8092
@mallardofmodernia8092 Месяц назад
​@@trianglemoebiussimilar to Spanish and French then in a way as they sometimes do this too.
@lordsam808
@lordsam808 Месяц назад
Excellent breakdown as always Ryan, one thing I'd like to pick up on is unfortunately a lot of genuine (particularly local) news sites in the UK have this many ads and of this quality, so much so that this might demonstrate an attempt to appear more authentic to a UK reader
@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA
@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA Месяц назад
On the CNN article about this. The police stated that the person in custody was born in England and was originally from Wales. Further in the article it was stated that the misinformation meant to stoke unrest was perpetrated by a Russian fake news account. The police stated that the people who came to riot were not locals to the area and had intentionally traveled with the intent to cause trouble
@xandr13
@xandr13 Месяц назад
Born in the UK to Rwandan immigrant parents, to be exact.
@Notsogoodguitarguy
@Notsogoodguitarguy Месяц назад
But, BBC literally confirmed that the suspect was a second generation immigrant from Rwanda. We won't know more about this, cause the UK will try to obfuscate with exactly the same quote as you did - "born in England and originally from Wales". This is the British government's MO, cause they don't wanna stoke "racial tensions" or something. Now, that doesn't mean that disinformation agents and malicious actors didn't use the story for nefarious purposes, but the story itself is real. It wasn't a British citizen that perpetrated the crime.
@taumus1
@taumus1 Месяц назад
@@davidsawyer1599 Denmark introduced a 24 year law regarding family reunification because immigrants from the Middle East would expect and trough social pressure have their children to marry someone from their home land. Often it would be when they turned 18, and especially the daughters would have no choice. They aren't allowed to marry a Danish person because we aren't muslim. So the law stated that your spouse and yourself would have to be 24 year of age before you could apply for family reunification and move to Denmark.
@edc1569
@edc1569 Месяц назад
Not sure about internationally travelled, a few will have definitely travelled from Wales and Scotland though
@realname4401
@realname4401 Месяц назад
@@davidsawyer1599 It's very ironic that you claim someone else is biased and prejudiced, in the same sentence that you demonstrate your own bias and prejudice. Don't do the holier than thou stuff if you're going to show how low down you yourself is.
@__Man__
@__Man__ Месяц назад
Ali Al-Shakati = Ali, descendant of apartment.
@Grz349
@Grz349 Месяц назад
FYI Rwanda is a name people recognise in the UK as the Conservatives Government had a plan to deport “illegal migrants” to Rwanda.
@olivere5497
@olivere5497 Месяц назад
Also Rwanda was home to a lesser known 1990s genocide.
@wessexdruid7598
@wessexdruid7598 Месяц назад
@@olivere5497 'Lesser known'?
@JoeBlow-fp5ng
@JoeBlow-fp5ng Месяц назад
Why did you put "illegal migrants" in quotes?
@yolobathsalts
@yolobathsalts Месяц назад
​@JoeBlow-fp5ng cause they're a leftist and would do anything to not admit these people are in the wrong
@FireLizard98
@FireLizard98 Месяц назад
Wasn't it refugees, not illegal immigrants
@sirshauniv511
@sirshauniv511 Месяц назад
I remember seeing the Angry Mob in CnC Generals and thinking that it was an exaggeration. Today, I have been proven wrong.
@MultiMcgruber
@MultiMcgruber Месяц назад
Angry mod?
@sirshauniv511
@sirshauniv511 Месяц назад
@@MultiMcgruber *mob. Thanks
@Zyxxx101
@Zyxxx101 Месяц назад
There's a special place in hell reserved for those who lie and use tragedies such as this to push an agenda Good work, Ryan
@marcblank3036
@marcblank3036 Месяц назад
It will be damn busy in that area. I am sure the dark lord will have vacancies soon to better manage the administrative affairs.....
@adrian333dev
@adrian333dev Месяц назад
Unfortunately hell doesn't exist...
@brendanroberts4866
@brendanroberts4866 Месяц назад
like 9/11 and WMD etc
@marcblank3036
@marcblank3036 Месяц назад
@@brendanroberts4866 seen what happened to the Iraqi Kurds in the 1980s?
@marcblank3036
@marcblank3036 Месяц назад
@@adrian333dev really? Not even in on earth?
@rodneyjackson7147
@rodneyjackson7147 Месяц назад
the chair looks like a prop piece from an old dracula movie too...
@1975lap
@1975lap Месяц назад
I have a certain political bent as we all do. What I like is when you publish a video, I never know if it is going to support or contrast my world view. That is what I like. Good job.
@CorruptInfinityOfficial
@CorruptInfinityOfficial Месяц назад
Honest question. What is the moral basis that RU-vid thinks it’s necessary to censor these videos and demonitize news that goes out of its way to be unbiased and not exaggerated. But news reports that go into the same level of explanation is okay, and yes I understand it’s specifically for “violence”
@cyber_rachel7427
@cyber_rachel7427 Месяц назад
The moral basis is that RU-vid is a for-profit business, and advertisers (through whom youtube generates its revenue, dont like their adverts running on content like this because its bad PR. YT has an obligation to its advertisers. Biased but otherwise mainstream news sources get away with it because they are established and capable of generating a lot of revenue for the platform. Companies are fine with their adverts running on something like Fox or CNN because they have done for decades Its bs if you ask me, but the 'moral basis' will come from whether one believes that a company's moral obligation is ultimately to its users or its shareholders... and more often than not the company will argue its to its shareholders
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin Месяц назад
My personal suspicion is that RU-vid and the others use the cheapest means necessary. If users remain despite a barely-enough robot on the task, the robot stays.
@simtyful
@simtyful Месяц назад
The way online media is exploited by: state-sponsored bad-actors, terrorist groups and ambulance-chasing criminals needs to be taught in schools. It's a lot easier to see it when you know what you're looking for. Hopefully the UK department of education will fund the development of some learning-resources.
@atomf9143
@atomf9143 Месяц назад
I am firmly of the opinion that high schools or secondary schools need to include a class on m digital media and how to understand the intentions behind it. So much pointless bs could be avoided that way.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 Месяц назад
What are “ambulance-chasing criminals”? I think you might be mangling an idiomatic phrase (ambulance-chasing) that doesn’t have anything to do with crime.
@simtyful
@simtyful Месяц назад
@@MarcosElMalo2 ambulance chasing criminals are those who use the misfortune of others to drive clicks
@BaddeJimme
@BaddeJimme Месяц назад
If it was taught in schools, then state sponsored bad actors would simply become less lazy, they would still be able to fool most people.
@LividImp
@LividImp Месяц назад
0:30 I grew up in Los Angeles, and yes, we have a very large vampire population to cater to. I can neither confirm nor deny if I am one of said vampires.
@R1chardH
@R1chardH Месяц назад
Never thought I would see Southport on Ryan McBeth. Hope I never see it on here again.
@cyb_structure
@cyb_structure Месяц назад
🙄
@snudu
@snudu Месяц назад
it is very sad to see people who look at a tragedy and just use it for personal/monetary gain
@neilclay5835
@neilclay5835 Месяц назад
This is a prime example of what Vlad Vexler talks about when he describes entrepreneurial actors using the news to grow their ad revenue and merch sales. Yes, we're there in society.
@cadebradbury9334
@cadebradbury9334 Месяц назад
I think the problem is that there has been absolutely no information released at all. 3 young girls have been killed and many others in a critical state and there are no answers. This is leading to a lot of speculation
@paolagrando5079
@paolagrando5079 Месяц назад
We have to relearn to be patient instead to prefer incorrect, or fake, informations.
@tennicksalvarez9079
@tennicksalvarez9079 Месяц назад
That's not a problem it better to take time to be right than to be wrong and cause problems
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t Месяц назад
Yeah, weirdly enough, it's common practice not to release information directly to the public without at least some attempt at verification (and also doing stuff like notifying the family of victims first, so they don't find out their nieces/nephews have been murdered on twitter or something).
@Hathur
@Hathur Месяц назад
There's a LOT of GOOD reasons why information isn't released to the public in cases like this. For this case, 1) the offender is a minor, legally police CANNOT release info whether they want to or not. Don't like it? Don't get mad at the cops, they don't create laws, they enforce them. Get mad at your lawmakers / politicians. 2) You are NOT entitled to information about an apprehended suspect. The threat is neutralized / in custody, there is no longer danger to the public. Releasing information prematurely can AND WILL contaminate the case by prosecutors when it goes to trial, making it all the easier for defense to get their client freed on technicalities, arguing lack of a fair trial etc. Police can and will only release info to the public that is pertinent and that DOS NOT put the case at risk when it goes to court... If you WANT the offender to go free to stab again, by all means, insist on more information that police shouldn't be giving until it's appropriate.
@Rybo-Senpai
@Rybo-Senpai Месяц назад
@@cadebradbury9334 the problem here is that now we live in the digital information age, everyone including myself has come to expect some level of readily available information. However there is information that can't be released as it would taint a Jury if released to the public. Edit for grammar
@manijoly7450
@manijoly7450 Месяц назад
The vampire chair definitely supports your hypothesis
@Corium1
@Corium1 Месяц назад
It's kinda sad that we have lots of people out there saying not to fall for fake news. But then will take a single article someone mentions or references in a tweet at face value with little to no research of their own. It's really simple to do, use your search engine of choice, look up said event, and try to find reputable sources that corroborate the story being told. If I can find multiple news sources talking about something and give a quick read through some articles, so can you. Great vid Ryan as always!
@smmlibary7832
@smmlibary7832 Месяц назад
This was a rough event but showed how easily countries can destabilize others even only for a moment, just by using the internet.
@pennybourban3712
@pennybourban3712 Месяц назад
Russia does it to US all the time because at least 30% of my country is very gullible.
@DaniLong
@DaniLong Месяц назад
I appreciate how you walk through the path of tracing back on these so others can learn to do the same. It's not difficult, but if you havn't done it before you might not know where to start/what logic to follow.
@MrTurkeypoult
@MrTurkeypoult Месяц назад
People on SM were saying it was a Muslim extremist from Syria. I have no idea where they were getting their info. But if the cops didn't cover up other muslim crimes including the beating of a police officer people would trust them.
@wolfbad512
@wolfbad512 Месяц назад
Can't publish info about a minor
@TimothyWhiteheadzm
@TimothyWhiteheadzm Месяц назад
'A new low, exploiting tragedy to sell ads'. There is absolutely nothing new about it. It is as old as the advertising business.
@MakerMark
@MakerMark Месяц назад
Meanwhile he complains his video is being demonetized lol
@atomf9143
@atomf9143 Месяц назад
@MakerMark absolutely disgusting that the person who set this all off will make thousands of pounds while the men and women trying to point out their lies are told to shove it.
@TimothyWhiteheadzm
@TimothyWhiteheadzm Месяц назад
@@atomf9143 One of the ways of combatting misinformation, or people trying to profit off advertising when there is a tragedy, is for consumers to punish the advertisers. As a result, smart advertisers refuse to advertise together with certain types of video or information. Hence this video initially got demonetized. That was a good thing. It is a fact that Ryan McBeth profits from reporting on war and other tragedies. That is not necessarily a bad thing, reporters must get paid, but let us not lie to ourselves. Journalism in general deliberately and systematically looks for tragedies to report on because it sells more adverts than feel good stories. Exploiting tragedy to sell ads is far from being a new idea and is in fact the main idea and always has been.
@stickiedmin6508
@stickiedmin6508 Месяц назад
They didn't just exploit this tragedy to sell ads. They're exploiting this tragedy to foment violence too. The far right tried to burn down my hometown a few nights ago as a result.
@CallMeConCon
@CallMeConCon Месяц назад
@3:35 whos gunna tell him thats exactly what CNN does
@petergummerson5864
@petergummerson5864 Месяц назад
Hey Ryan, thanks for creating the video. Southport is my home town and I'm sure many like me are saddened by everything that has happened. It's sad that there's people who will use a tragedy as an excuse for violence. Take care man and keep up the hard work.
@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish
@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish Месяц назад
I find it kinda ironic that they hide the identity to not stoke prejudice, even though saying that does exactly that.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot Месяц назад
They hide the identity to protect minors.
@kyleme9697
@kyleme9697 Месяц назад
Hello Ryan !! I recognized the voice right away and couldn't place it. Watched the video, which was well done, clicked to see what other videos he has ... cyber security? cyber security !! Ryan is the guy in our IT training videos about hackers !! Nice to see you again Ryan !! :)
@Ruffieist
@Ruffieist Месяц назад
Most British people couldn't tell you the difference between MI5 or MI6 due to them being so similarly named. This story comes amidst a melting pot of suspicion and unease about the frequency of 'random' knife attacks in Britain, e.g. the soldier who was stabbed outside a barracks in Kent last week, and machete wielding gangs fighting in streets (e.g. reported in Southend-on-sea today). These incidents are real and the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine has stirred up a lot of feelings, and indeed became an issue with UK politics with up to 5 MPs winning seats in Parliament on a prominent pro-Palestine/anti-Israel platform and many people been exposed to protests and counter protests along prominent religious-ethnic backgrounds. There is a theme in the UK, and also parts of Europe, that these events are no longer called terrorist attacks and are deemed lone madman with a gun/lorry/knife - none of which quells the unease about why these seemingly are happening more often than they did in the past. Overall, the Merseyside Police lost the information war. People,, not just thugs, are shocked by this massacre, want information and are demanding answers. It is a very sensitive issue in the UK and they need to move quickly to reassure the public as holding back information undermines the trust the public has in the police. This creates the grounds that bad actors with deliberate misinformation, can persuade those with poor vetting on their sources can further disseminate. The truth will eventually come out, as the Crown Prosecution Service in the UK can waive the anonymity of those under 18 (and has a recent record of doing so). P.s. and of course, good video as ever Ryan.
@lethalsub
@lethalsub Месяц назад
You forgot to mention the other stabbing incident in Southport on Saturday.
@wolfbad512
@wolfbad512 Месяц назад
Do you understand what a terrorist attack means lmao? Explain to me how a sole person stabbing someone counts as a terrorist attack
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 Месяц назад
@@wolfbad512 It's the intention that makes something a terrorist attack. Much like how it's the intention that makes the difference between murder and manslaughter.
@teebob21
@teebob21 Месяц назад
@@lethalsub Why won't the UK implement common-sense knife control laws?
@Ruffieist
@Ruffieist Месяц назад
@@teebob21 the police used to have a blanket ability to stop and search anyone, however, this was deemed to be a policy that was targeted at those of certain racial backgrounds and was restricted. There are laws that prohibit the sale of knives to those under 18, but knives are not uncommon and can be found in everyone's kitchen. There are educational policies in schools as well, but there are those who fall foul of gangs a d other radical influences
@armynation31B5V5P
@armynation31B5V5P Месяц назад
Misinformation is to influence.
@Rampart.X
@Rampart.X Месяц назад
So is silence and ommission.
@Name-ps9fx
@Name-ps9fx Месяц назад
"To influence" is the actual job of all media, mainstream or not.
@westlarper
@westlarper Месяц назад
"Ali from my apartment" lmao
@jayrey5390
@jayrey5390 Месяц назад
Thank you for covering this - watched on substack 🇬🇧✊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@CrustySofa
@CrustySofa Месяц назад
How is there ALREADY a bot damn
@fnym9rdsavsffdik9a25
@fnym9rdsavsffdik9a25 Месяц назад
youtube have kind of lost the bot war, unless youtube crack down on it harshly it will just continue
@paolagrando5079
@paolagrando5079 Месяц назад
I've noticed on other channels that they can be the first to comment.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 Месяц назад
Kyle Reese, "Listen, and understand! That Bot is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever..."
@cadennorris960
@cadennorris960 Месяц назад
Because they are bots ready to comment the second a video is posted.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 Месяц назад
@@fnym9rdsavsffdik9a25 RU-vid doesn’t need to crack down “harshly” (what does harsh even mean to something that is not even alive?). It just needs to crack down methodically and consistently. It probably needs to hire more humans to identify false positives. I imagine that the issue is that such actions will negatively affect profits in some way.
@paddymcc3227
@paddymcc3227 Месяц назад
Very interesting as always. Cheers Ryan.
@ElectroAtletico
@ElectroAtletico Месяц назад
How do you end disinformation on this matter? By providing a detailed description of the suspect. But everyone knows that after all the Rape-Grooming Gang scandals in Britain that's not going to happen.
@atomf9143
@atomf9143 Месяц назад
Unfortunately that’s illegal in Britian, as he mentioned. Which is batshit insane. For minor crimes like shoplifting or light vandalism, I understand anonymity. But for something of this magnitude, they should absolutely confirm his identity to dispel any doubt.
@wolfbad512
@wolfbad512 Месяц назад
Can't get above the law Don't complain about information not being released Complain specifically about the law and tell ppl about it so that they can also complain about it so that it can be changed
@Izapertron123
@Izapertron123 Месяц назад
I live in Southport and what happened last night was horrific. It isn't who the town is, it's disusing racists. But it's been good to see the community come together so we can let the families grieving in peace - that's Southport
@Epicgamer-di2gh
@Epicgamer-di2gh Месяц назад
I'm from southport. Thank you for covering this and exposing these lies
@jemma6596
@jemma6596 Месяц назад
It's funny, your video is demonetized, but they still play ads before, during & after.
@friendlytravelagent7784
@friendlytravelagent7784 Месяц назад
Something interesting you pointed out: Rwanda was used by the UK as a place to process asylum seekers / undocumented migrants looking to enter the UK. The deal was to settle migrants there, rather than the UK. Kier Starmer recently disposed of the Rwanda deal, which upset many right-wingers in the UK. That's probably why the country was brought up
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin Месяц назад
Why was it finally closed? It looked like Rwanda was the only taker on this. The EU doles out security aid to a string of nations, and has it's security agreement with Turkey.
@ece2178
@ece2178 Месяц назад
mate no one liked the rwanda deal left or right, they both agreed it was a waste of money
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin Месяц назад
@@ece2178 I think rolling in abject weakness before Erdogan somehow became the new tough thing to do.
@ece2178
@ece2178 Месяц назад
@@SusCalvin the deal had nothing to do with Türkiye
@K3rbalSpace
@K3rbalSpace Месяц назад
For what it's worth Rwanda only ever agreed a long term option for 100 people, zero ever arrived. All at a projected cost of well over £800M
@kashmirha
@kashmirha Месяц назад
and shout out to you man! excellent service to humanity!!!!
@segfault4568
@segfault4568 Месяц назад
Housing crisis hitting so hard that the local suspect was named Ali's Apartment. XD
@pizaclatonddd3081
@pizaclatonddd3081 Месяц назад
Bruh
@atomf9143
@atomf9143 Месяц назад
Housing crisis so bad they invented a suspect called ‘apartment’ Genuinely wondering, where the hell did they get that name?
@pgil_6822
@pgil_6822 Месяц назад
Thanks for making this Ryan. As someone who grew up visiting Southport from the local area and spent time studying in at the sixth form college adjacent to where the tragedy happened, its still surreal seeing the small seaside town town hit global news. Manufactured outrage/misinformation/fake news is a real problem, not made better in the UK by years of failings in the education system and the growth in popularity of political parties that stand on anti-immigration. Keep up the great work.
@user-ly4el7qf7t
@user-ly4el7qf7t Месяц назад
this happened so close to me. I hate to be that guy, but the culture clash in the UK is responsible for this. Yes, people have used this to stir division. But looking at the bigger picture, somethings very wrong
@TheChodax
@TheChodax Месяц назад
Sadly you are right, Mr Powell appears to have been prescient. Things are getting bad, tensions and distrust are building. It's being amplified on both sides by online hate.
@mallardofmodernia8092
@mallardofmodernia8092 Месяц назад
​@@TheChodaxEnoch Powell? The kind of guy who would stir tensions on purpose to enable his racist views?
@stinkoshatter-shield2096
@stinkoshatter-shield2096 Месяц назад
"yes people have used this to stir division". So your solution is to lean even further into this division? Also what bigger picture? You're not looking at the bigger picture. Youre just stating an opinion based on what you "reckon". not what's actually true.
@user-ly4el7qf7t
@user-ly4el7qf7t Месяц назад
@@stinkoshatter-shield2096 i take it you don’t live in the uk from that response lol.
@KingCreeper-1026
@KingCreeper-1026 Месяц назад
While my opinion on immigration has definitely soured over the past few years, I care first and foremost about the truth. DO NOT LEAN INTO DISINFORMATION.
@niksandy7125
@niksandy7125 Месяц назад
Thanks Ryan. Tragic incident, and that some people may use this as just a means to profit from internet ads is just sick. But in today's world, right now, the rabbit hole could go way deeper. Questions like, was this teenager recruited by someone else who filled his head with some BS about it being for 'a cause'? Was this 'recruiter' actually a real person? or was the 'recruiter' just another link in the chain, himself duped by a foreign/ domestic actor with a broader agenda? It may sound stupid...but nowadays it seems you have to ask... that's a big problem.
@joefeola7770
@joefeola7770 Месяц назад
Another excellent video..thank you
@RichardGeiszler
@RichardGeiszler Месяц назад
Love the chair & lighting combo, Darth McBeth.
@alistairjamesheaton9155
@alistairjamesheaton9155 Месяц назад
It’s been bloody horrible, those poor children. Then there was a riot last night in Southport. That name is not common at all. Ryan is right that your class as an adult at 18 not 17 here in the Uk
@milobem4458
@milobem4458 Месяц назад
The "rumours" about Rwanda have nothing to do with the Rwanda Plan, as some commenters suggest. It's now a confirmed fact that the murderer's parents are immigrants from Rwanda. He really is 100% "ethnic Rwandan". I don't think there is confirmation on his tribal background (Hutu or Tutsi) yet.
@mitchverr9330
@mitchverr9330 Месяц назад
And it also doesnt actually matter, but you know.... gotta feed the far rights narrative.
@aaron670
@aaron670 23 дня назад
The chair definitely jives with the notion that hotel is for vampires.
@squireson
@squireson Месяц назад
Expoiting tragedy _and racism_ to sell ads. I guess it's not _that_ new but I still hope this isn't going to become a more common thread in our public discourse..
@xerezjg52
@xerezjg52 Месяц назад
Ryan you are the man! I just finished reading the BBC article on this and I thought… hmmm, need more details maybe Ryan has posted something on it seems it seems to be right up his alley and voila! Thank you
@Kamehaiku
@Kamehaiku Месяц назад
I have to search for Ryan while he searches for the truth. Google is getting worse. 😢
@matthemming9105
@matthemming9105 Месяц назад
A great reason to subscribe to his substack!
@cadennorris960
@cadennorris960 Месяц назад
I get notifications when he posts no need to search
@Kamehaiku
@Kamehaiku Месяц назад
@cadennorris960 google hates me. It's a never-ending battle to see if YT will dekete my comments or unsuscribe me from channels.
@wolfbad512
@wolfbad512 Месяц назад
I get him in my recommendations a lot
@nuadsilverhand
@nuadsilverhand Месяц назад
Thanks for the real-world view on all of this.
@tbhayt
@tbhayt Месяц назад
Thanks for all of your hard work Ryan - it's really appreciated!
@johnlaudenslager706
@johnlaudenslager706 Месяц назад
You are maybe the best analyzer of info on RU-vid. OK, I'm no expert, but you are sure damn good.
@Welldonewaryaaa
@Welldonewaryaaa Месяц назад
Ryan never disappoints
@jasongannon7676
@jasongannon7676 Месяц назад
Thanks for your willingness to keep it real when so many don't.
@billyriley492
@billyriley492 Месяц назад
I love your stuff Ryan. Keep calling these people out...maybe the public will get wise and start to question what they see or read before they act
@sarnieken
@sarnieken Месяц назад
I have always greatly enjoyed your unbiased coverage and commentary. Since this video was posted, the name has been released, mostly because he turns 18 next week so the judge has released the name. The outrage that was caused was designed to appeal to folk who are angry at everything remotely foreign or immigrant sounding. The guy does deserve everything coming to him (hopefully lasting and painful) but the scenes we have seen since do nothing for anyone.
@mikepembo8297
@mikepembo8297 Месяц назад
Worth noting there are prominent British RU-vidrs covering this on location as if it were a party. Absolutely vile behaviour from them. Theyre also echoing any kind of information on their videos, be it accurate or inaccurate with no due diligence in place to verify
@wessexdruid7598
@wessexdruid7598 Месяц назад
Name names.
@chiselcheswick5673
@chiselcheswick5673 Месяц назад
Thank you for covering this tragic event.
@oronjoffe
@oronjoffe Месяц назад
Although the police in the UK cannot reveal the name of the suspect, they HAVE stated that Ali al Shakati is NOT his name.
@yucczucc1401
@yucczucc1401 Месяц назад
Ryan looking like a Castlevania villain
@JIMMYTeron1882
@JIMMYTeron1882 Месяц назад
Thank you for covering this Ryan. The UK is my second home and I have seen so much fear and anger about this incident that the facts were hard to parse.
@despicableree58
@despicableree58 Месяц назад
Thank you for covering this. A tragedy such as this deserves clarity and should not be used as a tool by malicious parities to profit from a distraught nation.
@johnnyraysimpson92
@johnnyraysimpson92 Месяц назад
Thank you for this, so much disinformation surrounding this story in particular. Reading a comment thread on one news video about it lead to the conclusion that the suspect was Syrian with Rwandan parents and was born in Cardiff, Wales! People really in to stop and think if the things they’re believing actually make sense.
@brendanroberts4866
@brendanroberts4866 Месяц назад
now they even say it was just a mental health issue - so hw will be released soon with a few pills
@Rampart.X
@Rampart.X Месяц назад
Fact: three girls gone and many injured. Perp was not ethnically British.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Месяц назад
​​@@Rampart.X also fact: nazi traitors like the BDL are funded by the Kremlin.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Месяц назад
@@Rampart.X he was part of the kingdom probably
@Rampart.X
@Rampart.X Месяц назад
@@tuckerbugeater Kingdom of Wakanda
@martinwyke
@martinwyke Месяц назад
Also impersonation. In the UK channel 3 is historically the number of ITV Independent TV. It's well regarded and has a reputation comparable with the BBC. NOW is a separate UK TV streaming service.
@guidobolke5618
@guidobolke5618 Месяц назад
The land of origin actually changed every day. The first day it was Somalia, then Syria, and finally Rwanda. What made it work so well, I think, was that it wsa the end of a series of events over the last weeks. I am a left leaning pro-immigration guy from Germany that had watched the british news for about a week and I was outraged! I still am. This is really weird. Leaving the information space completely to the disinformation people is not a good idea. Leaving a grieving public to these people with nothing than platitudes is not a good idea.
@letsgetsometruth4516
@letsgetsometruth4516 Месяц назад
I heard the rumor that it was a Somali was from the daily mail and I also heard the rumor that they quickly changed that in an article. I say rumor cause I couldnt really verify it myself
@Rybo-Senpai
@Rybo-Senpai Месяц назад
@@letsgetsometruth4516 I only saw the country of origin rumour in social media. Facebook and reddit and such
@guidobolke5618
@guidobolke5618 Месяц назад
@@Rybo-Senpai I only watched the comment sections of a few channels that had opened them.
@strigoiu13
@strigoiu13 Месяц назад
weak country going downhill day by day. the authorities were more scared to release the identity of the perpetraitor, than a popular revolt :) UK 2024 :)
@kleinweichkleinweich
@kleinweichkleinweich Месяц назад
migration , Brexit , Ukraine KGB office Dresden is doing overtime
@user-dv4mo6ee3o
@user-dv4mo6ee3o Месяц назад
Keep this series up Ryan. Find these dives into dodgy news fascinating and much needed!!!
@jasonpatterson8091
@jasonpatterson8091 Месяц назад
Honestly, sowing division for money seems better to me than sowing division for political gain. Neither is good, but I really do find the "normal" divisive dishonesty worse than this.
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 Месяц назад
It's the business model of Rupert Murdoch and he caused a lot of the political division as a result.
@togglebutton3312
@togglebutton3312 Месяц назад
Boycott every advertiser on that site.
@atomf9143
@atomf9143 Месяц назад
Ads often purchase space on these sites in bulk, they likely didn’t do a thurough review of any of them.
@Ramblinmanmarv
@Ramblinmanmarv Месяц назад
the claim was "born in cardiff to rwandan parents" not that the suspect was from Rwanda.
@paddington1670
@paddington1670 Месяц назад
Looking like the villain in Inspector Gadget, just need a cat to pet on your throne.
@jonboymk1bridgemaryfront889
@jonboymk1bridgemaryfront889 Месяц назад
Cheers Ryan for your work on this brutal event in England. Yes just like in the states we have plenty of conspiracy people in this country ✌️🇬🇧
@Kalas82
@Kalas82 Месяц назад
atleast someone takes a shot at the slop in the web especialy in germany the amount of propaganda and "fake news", even from none-web sources is insane it is not even hard to spot, rarely it is just subtle framing, often it is pretty clear yet it always works strange times
@AB-mw8oz
@AB-mw8oz Месяц назад
My German dad and step mum recently visited the UK. They already work with alot of international people from across the world, and read British newspapers. And we were talking about this misiniformation, they said in German papers they are saying we brits are starving, we can't afford electricity and so on. Almost the exact same propaganda the Russian government is saying about the west. When the reality is and my dad agrees, the German economy is in a far worse state than the British economy
@STFCTAFF84
@STFCTAFF84 Месяц назад
Superb as always. Im a Brit, the mention of Rwanda might have been added in for another reason....the recent conservative govt in the uk had a plan to ship illegal immigrants to Rwanda. So its well imbeded in the nations mind. But thank you for bringing such rationality misinformation about this horrific act.
@tommyhartman
@tommyhartman Месяц назад
Thanks for keeping on trying to post your content on RU-vid. It has to be more than frustrating.
@henrya3530
@henrya3530 Месяц назад
Here's what I don't understand: the person who committed the terrible crime in Southport has been revealed to be someone who was born in Cardiff (for US viewers that's in Wales which is in the UK which makes him a UK citizen) and the family later moved to the village of Banks in Lancashire (also in UK). There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever he had any links with the Islamic faith. So why are the knuckle-dragging followers of Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) still using this tragedy as an excuse to engage in anti-migrant and anti-Islam riots around the UK?
@nathanbrunt390
@nathanbrunt390 Месяц назад
exactly what i was going to say. and sadly just like any new stroy people cling to what helps there narative. or fixates on facts/non facts that support what they have already deemed to be the truth. it goes both ways on the political spectrum, and sadly with this tradgedy the large ammount of people who have taken the missinformation as fact, are now using it as ammo to riot and cause harm, triggering counter protests and fighting by there opposites.
@ece2178
@ece2178 Месяц назад
load of rubbish guy is a second generation rwandan immigrant who called for genocide in his school and got caught with knives in school, the uk has massive issues with immigration shown by GOV polls, their cities and the overall economy, recently there have been attacks on an army officer and police as well as riots in leeds (which were all caused bv non-native british people), this was bound to happen but please don't speak on the issue (without any context) if you dont know what you are talking about
@margaretmarshall9161
@margaretmarshall9161 Месяц назад
Good job Ryan as usual. Love from Australia
@bettycrocker6692
@bettycrocker6692 Месяц назад
Thank you for your valuable insights, but British authorities should have been much more transparent with the public about this case, in order to refute the fake news about it. Perhaps the ensuing riot would then not have happened.
@Ruffieist
@Ruffieist Месяц назад
Quite right - you need to move quickly given the atmosphere that has been (probably) stoked by conflict in the Middle East, that is is enflaming fault lines that UK politics has been unsuccessful in calming.
@wolfbad512
@wolfbad512 Месяц назад
Have u not watched the video He literally says it's illegal to release the information
@BobGorelick
@BobGorelick Месяц назад
I think your argument confuses cause and effect. The police are in general reluctant to share information about cultural backgrounds exactly because they know these hooligans riot and use violence against minorities.
@markedwards4879
@markedwards4879 Месяц назад
Watching here as well as being a substack sponsor so that you get credit for both ;)
@SheikhDjibouti
@SheikhDjibouti Месяц назад
Not to take away from your main point but they're just the football hooligans. If they weren't rioting over this it would be something else. They're disgusting.
@happywarrior7126
@happywarrior7126 Месяц назад
Thank you for covering this, its important that we all stay connected.
@sulaybah1862
@sulaybah1862 Месяц назад
Could you do the misinformation of the Olympic woman’s boxing?
@harrydonnelly2781
@harrydonnelly2781 Месяц назад
Keep fighting the good fight Ryan!!! I am so rediculously broke otherwise I'd so support your work and your channel They've helped me so much
@thomasbaker7754
@thomasbaker7754 Месяц назад
I love your videos
@jetblackstar
@jetblackstar Месяц назад
Was going to ask you to look into this one. Thanks for getting to it first😊
@Mkbshg8
@Mkbshg8 Месяц назад
It's a new low to sell ads? That's standard procedure across the news sites etc and pretty much always has been.
@paolagrando5079
@paolagrando5079 Месяц назад
Isn't especially the ☀and papers like that?
@Mkbshg8
@Mkbshg8 Месяц назад
@@paolagrando5079 Yeah tabloids are the most blatant
@iamalpharius6288
@iamalpharius6288 Месяц назад
I respect that you stick to the subject at hand and do not deviate into any of the other surrounding political issues, that is real unbiased journalism.
@tatuka666
@tatuka666 Месяц назад
Who is the killer then?
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar Месяц назад
Irrelevant until the trial is concluded.
@JanBruunAndersen
@JanBruunAndersen Месяц назад
​@@SonsOfLorgar - I disagree. As I read the the official statements from the police the attacker) suspect was seen on the scene carrying a knife and then arrested. Since there were several adult witnesses, some which was also stabbed while trying to defend the children, I am sure the suspect was also identified by them. All in all the attacker has been identified and a trial is unnecessary. What a court needs to do is to determine the sentencing. It makes no sense to keep his identity hidden at this point in time.
@bobsapp3133
@bobsapp3133 Месяц назад
someone born to rwandan parents
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Месяц назад
@@SonsOfLorgar yeah i wunder whodunnit
@davefloyd9443
@davefloyd9443 Месяц назад
​@JanBruunAndersen No. A trial is very necessary. Anything less is summary justice and that's not the way we roll in the UK.
@jompy151
@jompy151 Месяц назад
@Ryan as a Brit i thank you for this 👍
@Benjamin-vm8di
@Benjamin-vm8di Месяц назад
I don't know why they work so hard to come up with an Islamic name, just go by Muhammad ibn Muhammad or something with Muhammad in the name and you would probably be correct 90% of the time.
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 Месяц назад
Because the name means something in Arabic that should tell you it was a joke
@TheFlashman
@TheFlashman Месяц назад
Probably because they don't want to name a real person and get sued.
@CaptainTodger69
@CaptainTodger69 Месяц назад
@@TheFlashman i don't think that really applies to Muslim names. there would be so many people with a generic name like Mohammad Khan (literally tens of thousands of them in the UK alone) there would be no way to prove which one they were talking about
@TheFlashman
@TheFlashman Месяц назад
@@CaptainTodger69 why risk it? If they used a real name, like John Smith you could argue that there's loads of John Smith's, but if a John Smith was identified falsely, they would have a right to compensation by this company. Spreading misinformation, or defaming someone is a crime in this country. They probably don't want Alex Jones style problems so just make up a laughably fake name that only people who don't know will fall for. It achieves their aims with little to no risk.
@Greatshadowfighter
@Greatshadowfighter Месяц назад
Great work again!
@BeyondscutumCrux
@BeyondscutumCrux Месяц назад
Send the EDL to jail!!
@zivkovicable
@zivkovicable Месяц назад
@@greabo9544 We have joint enterprise laws that have seen gang members imprisoned for murders they weren't directly involved in. Mere membership of certain Muslim extremist organisations can put someone in jail.
@stinkoshatter-shield2096
@stinkoshatter-shield2096 Месяц назад
@@greabo9544 The parallel i'm guessing you're trying to make here doesn't work. One is a large collection of individuals loosely defined by heritage. The other is an organised group of people united by ideology and motive
@zivkovicable
@zivkovicable Месяц назад
@@greabo9544 The law is currently applied to gang members merely for appearing in rap videos associated with that gang. Membership of certain proscribed political or religious groups is illegal in itself, although this has yet to be applied to EDL or any successor organisation.
@weightelk
@weightelk Месяц назад
Ryan, what do you think about true crime podcasts who use tragedy to sell ads?!
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