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Disliked Pieces by 7 Displeased Classical Composers 

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♫ Sheet Music (Grieg - In the Hall of the Mountain King): tinyurl.com/4xak28m5 *
♫ Sheet Music (1812 Overture Excerpt | Different Version): tinyurl.com/4ympp2vp *
♫ Sheet Music (Saint-Saëns - The Swan | Different Version): tinyurl.com/57r6zprh *
♫ Sheet Music (Debussy - Rêverie): tinyurl.com/yckky6mn *
♫ Sheet Music (Rachmaninoff - Prélude in C-sharp minor): tinyurl.com/2fvjdcuk *
♫ Sheet Music (Ravel - Boléro | Different Version): tinyurl.com/kx6m9mua *
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Enjoy this video showing disliked pieces by 7 classial composer.
0:00 Ludwig van Beethoven: Septet in E-flat major, Op.20, IV. Tema con variazioni, 1799-1800
0:37 Edvard Grieg: Peer Gynt Suite No.1, Op.46, IV. In the Hall of the Mountain King, 1875
1:19 Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky: 1812 Overture, Op.49, 1880
1:51 Camille Saint-Saëns: The Carnival of the Animals, R.125, XIII. The Swan, 1886
2:28 Claude Debussy: Rêverie, L.68, 1890
3:18 Sergei Rachmaninoff: Morceaux de fantaisie, Op.3, II. Prélude in C-sharp minor, 1892
3:56 Maurice Ravel: Boléro, M.81, 1928
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Title: The Carnival of the Animals - XIII. The Swan (Solo piano version)
Author: Markus Staab
Source: musopen.org/music/1454-the-ca...
License: creativecommons.org/licenses/...
Changed: Yes
Composer(s): Various
Original Music: Various © (1799-1928)

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@PianoMusicBros
@PianoMusicBros Год назад
It's time to showcase some pieces the composers weren't fond of. Do you know of any more? ♫ Sheet Music (Grieg - In the Hall of the Mountain King): tinyurl.com/4xak28m5 * ♫ Sheet Music (1812 Overture Excerpt | Different Version): tinyurl.com/4ympp2vp * ♫ Sheet Music (Saint-Saëns - The Swan | Different Version): tinyurl.com/57r6zprh * ♫ Sheet Music (Debussy - Rêverie): tinyurl.com/yckky6mn * ♫ Sheet Music (Rachmaninoff - Prélude in C-sharp minor): tinyurl.com/2fvjdcuk * ♫ Sheet Music (Ravel - Boléro | Different Version): tinyurl.com/kx6m9mua * * Affiliate Link
@yorusaka3554
@yorusaka3554 Год назад
Fantasia Improptu by Chopin and Clair de Lune by Debussy
@green_cuber
@green_cuber Год назад
@@yorusaka3554 I was actually going to say, Chopin never wanted Fantasie Impromptu published and he wanted it burned, as he thought it was too similar to Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata
@poptartwaffles69
@poptartwaffles69 Год назад
Do Schumann next
@Geigenzaehler
@Geigenzaehler Год назад
Bruckner 0
@LisztAddict
@LisztAddict Год назад
Alkan next
@TranscendentalMiner
@TranscendentalMiner Год назад
It's surprising how many composers hate their most famous piece.
@benjastuff1347
@benjastuff1347 Год назад
we thrive of the giant's degenerecy, for them it's an escape from their own higher self, thats why they hate it, but we lower people always like consuming the careless, desperate, overplayful, unmature versions of the great composers. hope u understooid what i was trying to say.
@ChronicMetamorphosis
@ChronicMetamorphosis Год назад
Not to compare Kurt Cobain with a classical composer, but he too hated his most popular song, which made fun of the masses for liking it. Same shit, different era. Funny how the powers at be mock you with the sheep. (Ironically, "Sheep" was the first considered name of the Nevermind album)
@julianfaranda
@julianfaranda Год назад
It's actually more common than you think with composers and artists.
@jesustovar2549
@jesustovar2549 Год назад
@@ChronicMetamorphosis It's like Radiohead hating Creep.
@zerois2801
@zerois2801 Год назад
@@jesustovar2549 yes often times bands think their most popular works eclipses their better work in radiohead's case doesn't represent their artistic style not only that but they grew sick of playing creep over and over
@axwell5045
@axwell5045 Год назад
I believe I read somewhere that Saint-Saëns really liked “Carnival of the Animals”, he just didn’t intend to publish it since it was a private “joke” composition. In fact, he was supposed to be writing his Symphony no. 3 at the time (since it was a commissioned work) but couldn’t stop himself from writing the “Carnival of the Animals” since he had so much fun with it. Great video though!
@jesustovar2549
@jesustovar2549 Год назад
The Swan was the only movement that was published during Saint-Saëns lifetime, it was an arrangement for cello and piano, is pretty well known outside from the "Carnival".
@tobiaspeter6555
@tobiaspeter6555 Год назад
That story is true. At least, I know it also
@mattmcdermottmusic
@mattmcdermottmusic Год назад
Yes. He wrote to his publisher about writing Carnival of the Animals instead of his 3rd Symphony.
@alegendamongmen
@alegendamongmen Год назад
It is true - this person is just a deceiving c- nt.
@keescanalfp5143
@keescanalfp5143 Год назад
@@jesustovar2549, yes, he forbade to publish all the rest until his death. the permitted publication was only in such respect an "arrangement", that till now it contains just one of the two original piano parts note by note, leaving the atmosphere of the second piano part totally aside, even in the nice final chord . enjoy the original!
@cdmcfall
@cdmcfall Год назад
In defense of Tchaikovsky's opinion, "1812" was more of a medley than an original piece. In a 15-minute work, he sampled "La Marseillaise," "O Lord, Save Thy People," "At the Gate," "God Save the Tsar!," and even samples from his previous works.
@Alix777.
@Alix777. Год назад
This piece is dreadful still
@devinlastnamenotneeded8521
@devinlastnamenotneeded8521 Год назад
The only thing that makes it unique is the cannons and church bells, which he included for ironic purposes iirc
@giovannib27
@giovannib27 Год назад
Missing Fantasie Impromptu in here
@riomema4191
@riomema4191 Год назад
true
@ethanrosner5091
@ethanrosner5091 Год назад
I was gonna say that
@Shibshankar_Roy
@Shibshankar_Roy Год назад
Truee
@callmeqt1269
@callmeqt1269 Год назад
for real
@hildankuna8879
@hildankuna8879 Год назад
There's something wrong with you
@MisterPathetique
@MisterPathetique Год назад
Tchaikovsky pretty much hated everything he wrote.
@user-jc3fr7vn7x
@user-jc3fr7vn7x Год назад
He wanted more attention and admiration Otherwise would had not published :)
@jesustovar2549
@jesustovar2549 Год назад
If only he had known that his music is so loved today, imagine how he would have felt that his 3 ballets are now an essential part of the repetoire, that The Nutcracker is performed every Christmas, maybe he would have felt more confident about his sexuality in today's world, but that has always been difficult in Russia. I wonder if he regretted being a composer?
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 Год назад
@@jesustovar2549 I have a special edition DVD set of Disney's Sleeping Beauty (my favorite Disney movie of all time, as a side note) which has a very nice special feature (one of a few cool special features) about the life of Tchaikovsky and his journey at writing the music for Sleeping Beauty. It has been a long time since I watched it but I seem to remember there being a period of years in which Tchaikovsky suppressed the music within him until he just couldn't stand it anymore.
@fyfyi6053
@fyfyi6053 Год назад
He had very low self esteem and he was criticized by fellow russian composers for his compositions being too western in style.
@karllieck9064
@karllieck9064 Год назад
Not really. He loved many of his works as well: The Sleeping Beauty, Piano Concerto #1, Serenade for Strings, 4th and 6th symphonies, Suite #3, Violin Concerto, Tone poems, Romeo and Juliet, Francesca da Rimini ,Operas, Eugene Onegin and Queen of Spades...shall I go on? Lo!
@dr.virus1295
@dr.virus1295 Год назад
I knew that Tchaikovsky hated 1812, he called it bombastic & loud & that's what people like, which in this day & age he's right, most people want loud & explosive & wowing visuals, with little no desire for small details or cleverness. But I never knew that Edvard Grieg disliked Hall of Mountain King, it's the only piece of music I know him for. As for the rest, they're honestly not bad, better than most songs we get nowadays.
@jesustovar2549
@jesustovar2549 Год назад
Grieg would have been upset to hear Morning Modd and In the Hall of the Mountain King being used in media today (they're meme music just as Tchaikovsky's 1812) and for this they are his most famous pieces.
@marcraider
@marcraider Год назад
edvard grieg have a lot of interesting an beatiful works, you should listen more of him
@DeflatingAtheism
@DeflatingAtheism Год назад
Beethoven’s “Wellington’s Victory” is even louder and more bombastic than 1812, and funnily enough, Beethoven apparently liked it just fine- more than two centuries’ worth of critics!
@freezafrezado9472
@freezafrezado9472 Год назад
Try the Grieg's Piano Concerto, you won't regret!
@therealhiesenberg2731
@therealhiesenberg2731 Год назад
It is pretty gaudy
@liquiditey
@liquiditey Год назад
Just think how many modern composers bands and artists feel Rachmaninoffs pain being asked to perform the same pieces every live show
@_admiralsnackbar2264
@_admiralsnackbar2264 Год назад
It’s sorta like Radiohead’s Creep. They kept being asked to perform it in concerts and grew to hate it
@DailyKosia
@DailyKosia Год назад
3:22 I checked the Russian sources, Rachmaninoff didn't say "I'm sorry'", but "I don't regret to habe writtent it, but it pursuits me everywhere, I play it like a machine".
@FranzLiszt0904
@FranzLiszt0904 11 месяцев назад
How it feels like to be told to play a famous song wait no famous piece in every concert
@angreagach
@angreagach 9 месяцев назад
Grieg was not referring to "In the Hall of the Mountain King," but to "The Dance of the Mountain King's Daughter." He originally included this in the second Peer Gynt Suite as the last number, but afterwards withdrew it. It is occasionally retained.
@salernolake
@salernolake Год назад
Many years ago, Rachmaninoff was staying in Los Angeles at the Garden of Allah - a local resort hotel for entertainers and actors temporarily staying in Hollywood. He was fond of practicing his piano at all hours, which caused his neighbor Harpo Marx to lose sleep. Harpo's solution was to play the Prelude in C-sharp on his harp, starting at the crack of dawn. He played it over and over again, until after about three hours, Rachmaninoff asked to be moved to another villa - "as far as possible from that awful harpist!" Harpo wrote in his autobiography that he hadn't known about the composer's loathing of the piece, but that "after playing it for three hours, I understood how he felt!"
@lindildeev5721
@lindildeev5721 Год назад
I've read that too.
@JaxDaBest
@JaxDaBest Год назад
Chopin really hated his Fantasie Impromptu. He told his publishers not to release it, but they did anyway.
@WTT1978
@WTT1978 Год назад
Thank God they did!
@vincent-ataramaniko
@vincent-ataramaniko Год назад
No. Chopin said all his unpublished works should be burnt. But never said that it was because he hated them. Perhaps they were very intimate, perhaps he didn't consider them as good as the others, but he NEVER said he hated them. I'm curious to know where you learnt that.
@WLongDoesWStuff
@WLongDoesWStuff Год назад
@@vincent-ataramaniko He disliked fantasie impromptu because it was too much alike to Beethoven's third movement of moonlight sonata
@nintendianajones64
@nintendianajones64 Год назад
@@WLongDoesWStufffalse The Fantasie Impromptu was a commissioned piece. He wrote it for money for a specific individual which is why it wasn't published until after his death. It was in a private collection. It has absolutely nothing to do with Beethoven or any other composer. That's a myth.
@WLongDoesWStuff
@WLongDoesWStuff Год назад
@@nintendianajones64 I didn't know that, it's a myth that everyone knows. Thanks!
@Da_TboneLife
@Da_TboneLife Год назад
I could understand in boleros case, but why reverie, it's one of those unbelievably beautiful pieces.
@Leen-ow1fd
@Leen-ow1fd Год назад
Ikr right
@omniscientomnipresent5500
@omniscientomnipresent5500 Год назад
"purely for material consideration" it's like if you were a composer that made some riff or chord progression and someone just went and published it.
@mrthg2831
@mrthg2831 Год назад
Bolero goes hard
@barryhomeowner9293
@barryhomeowner9293 Год назад
You lose the magic when it comes from yourself. Nothing I've ever written has moved me emotionally upon hearing it, just like a magician isn't wowed by seeing their own tricks performed
@YT-hates-my-Japanese-name
@YT-hates-my-Japanese-name Год назад
I *love* Rêverie; it's my favourite from Claude Debussy's works, followed by Arabesque No. 1.
@PickleToothpaste
@PickleToothpaste Год назад
Debussy was in a hurry to write down Reverie yet it turned out to be beautifu embodiment of kindness.
@phantomvhs3537
@phantomvhs3537 Год назад
You have the absolute best piano videos that contextualize the history. I love you.
@ChronicMetamorphosis
@ChronicMetamorphosis Год назад
I agree with Ravel.
@burr69
@burr69 Год назад
But he is wrong that it’s his only masterpiece
@Mr-Prasguerman
@Mr-Prasguerman Год назад
​@@burr69everything ravel has done is a masterpiece!!!!! go listen to daphne and choloe
@scronx
@scronx Год назад
Really great! Please give us more more of this!
@MarcelNL
@MarcelNL Год назад
Bolero, really beautiful, I even have it on my headphones at the gym when I'm pumping iron, but the song is even more monotonous than the repeating movements that I need to do for building up muscle. I love how the song gets more and more powerful, but it also drags on and on without a clear goal, or with an unexpected interruption. Even though I love it, I always switch to the next song somewhere halfway listening to it.
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer Год назад
But Ravel was completely right about it. It's an exercise in time and orchestration. But it is not music.
@MusicRoomWithFriendo
@MusicRoomWithFriendo Год назад
Radiohead fans: PLAY CREEP!!! Rachmaninoff fans: PLAY No. 2!!!! Same reaction.
@Antimonuu
@Antimonuu Год назад
It's actually Opus 3 No. 2 I'm really fun at parties I swear
@GoatCat_
@GoatCat_ Год назад
Lol thats what i was thinking of the whole time
@GoatCat_
@GoatCat_ Год назад
@@Antimonuu Don’t worry I believe you
@MusicRoomWithFriendo
@MusicRoomWithFriendo Год назад
@@Antimonuu Noted and edited.
@DeflatingAtheism
@DeflatingAtheism Год назад
Radiohead should respond to audience demands to play “Creep” by launching into “Fight For Your Right To Party” instead.
@louisvalencia5244
@louisvalencia5244 Год назад
I dont really like Bolero, but the rest of them are among my favorites of each composer. I rly loved Beethovens septet when i was a teenager, and it still gives me some nostalgia.
@medusiz1801
@medusiz1801 Год назад
I believe one of the reasons Beethoven resented the septet was becuase despite writing works far greater it was one of his all time most popular and financially sucessful compositions.
@chessematics
@chessematics Год назад
​@@medusiz1801 he was always upset with the public's taste. He called the audience "asses" because they encored the Cavatina and not the Große Fugue at the Premiere of the op. 130 quartet.
@medusiz1801
@medusiz1801 Год назад
@@chessematics I would've been one of those asses, although I do love the fugue too
@chessematics
@chessematics Год назад
@@medusiz1801 yeah....i absolutely love cavatina. But i would had called for another encore where they play the fugue.
@jeffdavidson8749
@jeffdavidson8749 Год назад
I like Bolero; it is great for illustrating orchestration.
@jimwinchester339
@jimwinchester339 Год назад
Have to disagree w/ Saint-Saens about the Swan, Ravel regarding Reverie (though perhaps the title isn't a good fit?), Rachmaninoff about his Prelude in C#minor. Ravell's comment about Bolero was hilarious! But muscially, I think it gets the job done.
@jassassin8931
@jassassin8931 Год назад
Another piece that came to mind was Chopins "Fantasie Impromtu"
@greenbeans9748
@greenbeans9748 Год назад
What?! 😱 Camille Saint-Saëns' "Le Cygne" is one of my favorite classical pieces! I know Carnival of the Animals was supposed to be a private creation of his, but man! I had no idea he hated it!
@Tempusverum
@Tempusverum Год назад
He wrote it as a musical joke for his children. Funny how the least serious and whimsical pieces are the ones most remembered
@lavamatstudios
@lavamatstudios Год назад
He didn't hate it. He liked it a lot and used it to privately entertain musician friends. The reason he didn't want it published is that he thought it would damage his reputation because it isn't very "serious".
@angreagach
@angreagach 9 месяцев назад
"The Swan" was the one portion of the work that he allowed to be published during his lifetime.
@mr.hashundredsofprivatepla3711
I hate how so many composers hated their most beautiful pieces. Except for Bolero. It’s trash. I get why Ravel hated it. Besides that quote is entirely untrue. He really wrote many, many masterpieces.
@Itibitydetsku
@Itibitydetsku Год назад
Why so many people hate Bolero? I mean isn't his best piece but isn't that bad.
@abillionjivebars9888
@abillionjivebars9888 Год назад
You should watch the video that describes how bolero is a manifestation of Ravel's defected brain, and why it slowly descends into madness. Makes it a lot funner imo and I dont like the idea that it taints Ravel's repertoire which is the most consistently elegant in the classical world
@EK-gr9gd
@EK-gr9gd Год назад
Every piece, except Beethoven ( which might be a minor opus) and Tschaikowky's 1812, which was pure contract work, is perfect music.
@wonderfulworld3503
@wonderfulworld3503 Год назад
Wow this was informative and amazing. Thank you so much ❤️
@WTT1978
@WTT1978 Год назад
Oh my, Debussy I'm shocked! The Reverie is ... the most beautiful of all piano works 'er written by a human😮😥
@neo9560
@neo9560 Год назад
😂 not even close
@jayr526
@jayr526 Год назад
I don't know if I would go that far. But if I had written it I would be pleased as punch and raking in the royalties.
@neo9560
@neo9560 Год назад
@@jayr526 it’s ok but it’s not not good
@Itibitydetsku
@Itibitydetsku Год назад
Fun fact: Liszt hated HR2, literally his most famous work.
@FranciescoGallo
@FranciescoGallo Год назад
Why?
@keescanalfp5143
@keescanalfp5143 Год назад
@@FranciescoGallo, 'twas a fake story .
@FranciescoGallo
@FranciescoGallo Год назад
@@keescanalfp5143 ok
@lavamatstudios
@lavamatstudios Год назад
I call bullshit. Liszt liked fun too much to dislike HR2.
@FranzLiszt0904
@FranzLiszt0904 11 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Liszt actually liked HR2 and did write some cadenzas, and even write variants for his students or friends
@giovannib27
@giovannib27 Год назад
I like how a lot of these are some of their most famous pieces...
@alecrechtiene558
@alecrechtiene558 Год назад
Rachmaninoff really just hated the prelude because of its popularity and the fact that he got so sick of playing it. Tbh though, I can’t even put that in his top 10 works.
@PeterBrookF1
@PeterBrookF1 Год назад
A tad misleading; the Swan was the only movement from the Carnival of the Animals that Saint-Saens allowed to be published and performed during his lifetime.
@krishitpatoliya779
@krishitpatoliya779 Год назад
i love 'in the hall of the mountain king ' its joust great
@dragon6969
@dragon6969 Год назад
just* great*
@krishitpatoliya779
@krishitpatoliya779 Год назад
@@dragon6969 edited😅
@FMaple
@FMaple Год назад
Composer: this piece is actually pretty bad Us: Jokes on you I'm into that shit
@shaunnotsean4308
@shaunnotsean4308 Год назад
Chopin hates Fantasie-Impropmtu, because he thought it was similar to Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement (the C# minor arpeggiated sections at the start of both pieces sound similar when broken down). He requested that his friend burnt them after he died. But his friend did not burn it, and today we have a masterpiece.
@Anti_Yeonjun_Hotel
@Anti_Yeonjun_Hotel 2 дня назад
His friend first have to get permission from Chopin's family, the family said yes and now a masterpiece has been published.
@nobodytooimportant3621
@nobodytooimportant3621 Год назад
The piece aligned is not in the video but the quote is too perfect to leave off. “ You know, it's funny how... wrong an artist can be about his own work. The one composition of Tchaikovsky's that he really detested was his "Nutcracker Suite", which is probably the most popular thing he ever wrote. It's a series of dances taken out of a full-length ballet called "The Nutcracker" that he once composed for the St. Petersburg Opera House. It wasn't much of a success and nobody performs it nowadays, but I'm pretty sure you'll recognize the music of the suite when you hear it. Incidentally... uh, you won't see any nutcracker on the screen; there's nothing left of him but the title.”-Deems Taylor, Fantasia (1940)
@davidalejandropina9120
@davidalejandropina9120 Год назад
Excellent!!!
@h4rdm3rcy65
@h4rdm3rcy65 Год назад
Sergei's Piece is the equivalent of what he was saying, the piece sounds so villainous and menacingly terrifying, he even said he couldn't escape from a concert hall without playing it and that is like a curse
@aZuLa_PiG
@aZuLa_PiG Год назад
I genuinely like how scary the song is
@calculusantienjoyer254
@calculusantienjoyer254 Год назад
@@aZuLa_PiGnot to be that guy but compositions without lyrics are pieces
@lavamatstudios
@lavamatstudios Год назад
​@@calculusantienjoyer254 with all due respect, 🤓
@calculusantienjoyer254
@calculusantienjoyer254 Год назад
@@lavamatstudios with all due disrespect, ok
@steveneardley7541
@steveneardley7541 Год назад
It's the ultra-Norwegianness of Peer Gynt that I like the most! And Reverie by Debussy is easily one of his best works.
@athaofficial4219
@athaofficial4219 Год назад
Amazing
@anthonydecarvalho652
@anthonydecarvalho652 Год назад
Very interesting and revealing.
@kaschey6145
@kaschey6145 Год назад
It's quite mind-blowing to learn that Debussy hated "reverê". It's unironically my favorite composition of his. On the other hand, I know several artists who make pretty impressive drawings but call their art "shit" so I shouldn't be so surprised I guess
@juv7026
@juv7026 Год назад
How much of debussy have you heard?
@Lisztomaniac1022
@Lisztomaniac1022 Год назад
I would add Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu. Chopin wrote it in 1834 (age 23 or 24) but didnt publish it cause he thought it sounded too similar to Moonlight Mvt 3 by Beethoven. He even said to one of his friends not too. It was of course published like so many of his works after he died despite his wish for his unpublished stuff to be disposed of. Edit: I cant believe he would say that. Waltz in A Minor B150 and Nocturne in C# Minor No. 20 are in my top 10 favourite Chopin pieces those were published after his death. Edit 2: Debussy didnt really like Suite Bergamasque (Clair De Lune, etc) he thought the set of pieces sounded too basic. Which is why most other Debussy pieces sound a lot more full so to say.
@fedegwagwa
@fedegwagwa Год назад
Its not because it was similar to Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata (wheres the similarity here??). He didnt like it cause its basically a rip-off of Moscheles Impromptu op.89. Go listen to it, its awesome and you can tell where Chopin got his inspiration from
@PaulVinonaama
@PaulVinonaama Год назад
@@fedegwagwa Fantaisie-Impromptu and Moonlight Sonata do not "sound" the same, but they share a common string of notes (see Wikipedia). I doubt we know exactly why Chopin did not publish it.
@fedegwagwa
@fedegwagwa Год назад
@@PaulVinonaama Man if you play piano you will find a lot of pieces share the same notes with the Moonlight Sonata. But if you listen to Moscheles Impromptu, you can really tell where the famous Chopins main theme comes from, its pretty straight-forward. Then yea, of course theres no "official" "proved" reason for him to not publish it (it would be weird if there was indeed); but historians and biographers do their researches about the famous unpublished pieces. What I think happened in this case is, the piece was nice and virtuosic, but the piano players and listeners of Chopin's time probably knew the virtuoso piano music of Moscheles, and he likely didnt want to sound unoriginal. Nowadays instead, few people remember Moscheles (and Chopin's piece sounds better anyway), so of course its easier to dismiss that hypothesis. But the main "theme" and the name of the piece are basically the same
@PaulVinonaama
@PaulVinonaama Год назад
@@fedegwagwa I doubt there are many pieces with 21 notes in a row identical to a passage from Moonlight sonata (notes 8-28 of the Chopin right-hand sixteenths). I listened to the beginning of the Moscheles piece, and certainly there can be a connection, but the characters and expressions of the two pieces are SOOO different. There is not even the 3:4 polyrhythm in the Moscheles, it is in major, its phrasing is simplistic etc. So perhaps Chopin combined Beethoven's note-series with Moscheles right-hand gesture and ended up with a unique piece of his own, who knows? Perhaps neither connection had anything to do with its remaining unpublished.
@fedegwagwa
@fedegwagwa Год назад
@@PaulVinonaama Yea there are not many and its mostly virtuosic piano pieces so they're not even that well known. And of course its 2 completely different pieces, I'm not saying Chopin straight out copied from Moscheles, maybe it wasnt even a conscious quote. But, since they were friends as well, I could imagine Chopin being thrown off by the fact that an already existing piece, written by a well known famous friend, sounded so similar to his. Obviously I dont hold the truth in my hand, its just a series of facts that kinda points towards there but who knows for sure
@NidusFormicarum
@NidusFormicarum Год назад
Beethoven was often displeased by people's taste and didn't think his most famous pieces were his best. Not that I'm famous, but I find he same thing about my own music: the pieces that warm my heart and get me happy and excited are pften exactly the pices that others like the least while the pieces I don't feel is being myself very much and lack personal expression are often the pices that others like the most. Most people favour technhincal quality over feeling and personal artistic expression - experts do, that is.
@hotdogbananaman
@hotdogbananaman Год назад
I make games on scratch, and for the longest time my most viewed project was the one I spent the least effort on, I am thankful for the views, but I wish they were for something I worked hard on and enjoy more.
@Alix777.
@Alix777. Год назад
Nah he wrote a few bad pieces still l
@kaleidoscopio5
@kaleidoscopio5 Год назад
Parederewski wrote the Minuet in g which was a massive hit and he had to play at every concert. Also Percy Grainger with Country Gardens, a great hit which he was forced to play it at every concert 🤔
@bradyschultz808
@bradyschultz808 Год назад
Are these real quotes? Or just things the composers may have said
@ElishaJoelleSamarahArda
@ElishaJoelleSamarahArda Год назад
But I like prelude I c# minor. What Rachamninoff said reminded me of people who play Canon in D in weddings. Idk why
@lacedhexes
@lacedhexes Год назад
It's called Canon in Divorce nowadays
@ElishaJoelleSamarahArda
@ElishaJoelleSamarahArda Год назад
Lol
@52flyingbicycles
@52flyingbicycles Год назад
Are you really an artist if you don’t hate one of your best works 😆
@roxiethecockapoo1138
@roxiethecockapoo1138 Год назад
It hurt when they started playing some of my favorite songs...
@vizeethegreatyt3150
@vizeethegreatyt3150 Год назад
The quote doesnt mean edvard grieg hates it! HES SAYING ITS THE SHIT
@Thea-Time-13th
@Thea-Time-13th Год назад
One's missing; Frédéric Chopin: Fantaisie Impromptu, by far my favourite piece. It's wild chaotic nature changing into a relaxing melody (almost like calming yourself down while under stress) never ceases to amaze me.
@WasiulWahid-ot7cj
@WasiulWahid-ot7cj Год назад
he hated it cause he made it for his friend largely inspired by moonlight sonata. he told his friend to burn it after his death but he did the exact opposite and published it.
@Penco40
@Penco40 Год назад
The Swan was actually the only part of The Carnival premiered in Saint-Saëns lifetime
@christianhusch1287
@christianhusch1287 Год назад
Interesting that Beethoven published his Septett as trio again, op. 38, in 1805… there is no evidence he wanted the piece to be burnt…
@youtubecommenter2
@youtubecommenter2 Год назад
No way Tchaikovsky didn't like the 1812 Overture...
@duluthbro
@duluthbro Год назад
It's probably his most overrated work.
@gigogrom216
@gigogrom216 Год назад
why? It actually has the least depth among other Tchaikovsky's compositions
@sebastianwang670
@sebastianwang670 Год назад
it’s a showstopping crowd-pleaser and it very much sounds like it was designed with that purpose in mind. it’s loud and theatrical and over-the-top and can be pretty fun but it’s compositionally a hollow work
@JJ-zo7jv
@JJ-zo7jv Год назад
@@sebastianwang670 the masses love that stuff. It’s no surprise
@jeffdavidson8749
@jeffdavidson8749 Год назад
The 1812 overture sounds great on the Fourth of July. I saw the Boston Pops play it on several fourths including the one on 1976. It went well with cannon and city bells and riverside fireworks.
@jonathandeman9051
@jonathandeman9051 Год назад
I did not expect reverie to be here
@Exayevie
@Exayevie Год назад
Some of these comments have merit. Some of them are just the composers being total hipsters who just don't like that their work got too mainstream 😅
@theyluvtwoset.13
@theyluvtwoset.13 7 месяцев назад
3:31 it's giving.....✨STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN✨
@MrBaldylocks13
@MrBaldylocks13 Год назад
Some of my favorites, eg Reverie !
@gf4453
@gf4453 Год назад
Moncayo, one of Mexico's finest composers, wrote his beautiful Huapango, which is often played. Moncayo hated it because, he said, it was he who belonged to the Huapango. He was no longer Moncayo, but the Huapango...
@chengyishao334
@chengyishao334 Год назад
Mr. Saint Saens, I hope you reconsider your regret to publish Carnival of the Animals. I played secondo for a duet arrangement of this piece, and the melody was heavenly on the Steinway on stage. We won first place and I will never forget how majestic of a moment I had playing Le Cygne :)
@alejandramatamoros7361
@alejandramatamoros7361 Год назад
La de Edvard es una de mis piezas más favoritas
@jannis11
@jannis11 Год назад
Nice
@VallaMusic
@VallaMusic Год назад
i rarely listen to my own music - after I write it, I am done and move on to the next piece - the writing is the fun part for me, not so much the listening - i leave the listening part to whomever may stumble upon it
@lostcause._.
@lostcause._. Год назад
I also heard someone say Chopin hated Fantasie-impromptu
@samuelsmalley5236
@samuelsmalley5236 Год назад
That’s one of my favorite Debussy’s :(
@Twatkins2006
@Twatkins2006 3 месяца назад
I'm very surprised that Edvard Grieg hated In the Hall of the Mountain King, a song that is widely regarded as the one of greatest classical pieces ever made. And he hated that song, I’m really surprised about this.
@Tom-nw7px
@Tom-nw7px Год назад
Bolero 3:56 was originally going to be the OST for the first Legend of Zelda
@tuxer8345
@tuxer8345 Год назад
I LOVE prelude in C# minor lmao
@santiagobalbi3798
@santiagobalbi3798 Год назад
Is really Beatiful, I have a video in my channel playing it, and is very complex to play in public
@theyluvtwoset.13
@theyluvtwoset.13 7 месяцев назад
same
@joeross9478
@joeross9478 Год назад
In every case it was the composers most famous piece. For some of these composers its the only piece I would have been able to recognize. It is the artists version of I would never be in a club that would let me join. I don't really give two shiny shites I will continue to listen to their music how ever much they hated it.
@pauldavies5611
@pauldavies5611 Год назад
Didn't Beethoven come to hate the first movement of the "Moonlight" sonata? And didn't Debussy express dislike for "Clair de Lune"?
@LudwigVan_Beethoven
@LudwigVan_Beethoven Год назад
00:53 it's the (nearly) best classical music
@JJ-zo7jv
@JJ-zo7jv Год назад
Easily one of the hardest hitting classical pieces
@elaineblackhurst1509
@elaineblackhurst1509 Год назад
Haydn called his popular Symphony 60 (Il distratto’) ‘…that old pancake’ - Austrian slang for nonsense.
@TrebleWoofer1
@TrebleWoofer1 Год назад
Another would be Holst's "The Planets"
@jessicachiu5953
@jessicachiu5953 Год назад
Why so harsh, Beethoven? Schubert likes that picec and he even wrote an Octet that is smilar to it😂😂
@everythinganderson2624
@everythinganderson2624 Год назад
Great list, but you forgot Fantaisie Impromptu.
@gunz300
@gunz300 Год назад
Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu should be in here. One of the most famous pieces ever written and Chopin hated it.
@renii7494
@renii7494 Год назад
Chopin Tarantella Op. 43 "I hope I won't write anything as dreadful too soon." He hated it.
@sarahshea5505
@sarahshea5505 Год назад
for the first on the date says 1799-1800. is this beethovens life or the how long the song took? cause if it was age he only live one year
@zandertheakston6150
@zandertheakston6150 3 месяца назад
Mon arrière-grand-père, le nouveau Debussy et apparemment il adorait Rêverie
@ethanbrownpiano
@ethanbrownpiano Год назад
Chopin could’ve had Op.66 or Op.70 no.1
@yuk_notkim7658
@yuk_notkim7658 Год назад
Ah, TCP. Good to see you on RU-vid again!
@alexscarpa7573
@alexscarpa7573 Год назад
I’m pretty sure Prelude in C Sharp Minor was based off a nightmare Rachmaninov had, as well. Probably not fun to continue reliving a bad dream because it’s what people always want to hear.
@beracamakita2375
@beracamakita2375 Год назад
WoW
@plootyluvsturtle9843
@plootyluvsturtle9843 Год назад
i love Tchaikovsky but man from what i’ve read he sounds like kind of a bummer
@burr69
@burr69 Год назад
Mental health issues dude was probably hella depressed or manic and it came out in a bad attitude
@jayr526
@jayr526 Год назад
, When I read Rachmaninoff's quote, immediately Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin came to mind.
@bluetortilla
@bluetortilla Год назад
I don't how my fave Beethoven felt about Für Elise, but I thinks it's so bad that I can't even tell it's Beethoven.
@rad1oactive_uranium
@rad1oactive_uranium Год назад
Pls do evolution of Joh Williams or Hans Zimmer!
@gtjkse7yl
@gtjkse7yl Год назад
I agree with you. 👍🏻
@Quotenwagnerianer
@Quotenwagnerianer Год назад
Tchaikovsky was spot on about the 1812 overture. People love it despite the lack of artistic merit. But it certainly has very little.
@nachito2002
@nachito2002 Год назад
Wellingtons Sieg Oder Die Schlacht Bei Vittoria, Op. 91 (1813), Another Musical Piece That Beethoven Hated It.
@laurelmentor404
@laurelmentor404 Год назад
It's such a shame, that so many composers were disappointed with these iconic works. I do understand why Debussy, Rachmaninoff and Ravel felt this way towards their pieces though. For Debussy, it seems as though this piece didn't have artistic integrity, and his process for creating this piece was shallow superficial. Nevertheless, I love Rêverie! I also love the prelude, Morceaux de fantasie, but it must have been annoying for Rachmaninoff to play it again and again. As for Boléro, I understand completely why Ravel hates it. It was once stuck in my head for over a week, so it haunts me with its repetitiveness.
@DeflatingAtheism
@DeflatingAtheism Год назад
I think that many of these pieces involve the composers “doing what comes naturally” rather than over-intellectualizing their creations. What makes audiences respond to these pieces is precisely what makes them seem like trivialities to their composers.
@ashrafthegoat
@ashrafthegoat Год назад
1812 is goated, idk why he would dislike that masterpiece.
@sebastianwang670
@sebastianwang670 Год назад
it’s possibly the emptiest of all his large-scale works
@fabiandominicthe3223
@fabiandominicthe3223 Год назад
Verdi next please
@GPK1075
@GPK1075 Год назад
Where was fantaisie impromptu :( still a good video :)
@elyseenger-fq8ye
@elyseenger-fq8ye Год назад
Fun fact: It is commonly believed by neuroscientists that when Ravel wrote Bolero, he was in the early stages of primary progressive aphasia.
@mourgoukos
@mourgoukos Год назад
I don't think Saint-Saens disliked the carnival... he just did not want it played while he was alive, because it was insulting to so many people...
@James-io8lj
@James-io8lj Год назад
#5 Patience with you has ended
@barney6888
@barney6888 Год назад
Great composers and great comedians are cut from the same cloth.
@antoniozavaldski
@antoniozavaldski Год назад
Why are these all (except the Septet, but that was super popular in the 1800s) their most famous pieces?
@DeflatingAtheism
@DeflatingAtheism Год назад
I think the Moonlight Sonata could very well have been the most popular piece Beethoven composed until the day he died- a fact that caused him some consternation. I don’t think he hated it, but it was an early-period work that was outshined by many works from the remainder of his career.
@sebastianwang670
@sebastianwang670 Год назад
many composers resent their more popular works precisely because they believe those pieces overshadow their better works. Holst distanced himself from The Planets for that reason, as did Dukas with The Sorcerer’s Apprentice
@mourgoukos
@mourgoukos Год назад
Debussy did not like Reverie... oh come on... 😮😵‍💫🤧 I am shocked
@ikmarchini
@ikmarchini Год назад
I'll bet they cashed the check and didn't send it back.
@richardminnich4249
@richardminnich4249 Год назад
Really just an example on how a piece can be overplayed, even during he composer’s life! With Beethoven, one wonders, how often can you play the 1st movement of the Moonlight Sonata, or Fur Elise before they become old and boring. But remember, it is the audience’s pleasure that counts, so if they want to hear it, then one must play it! LOL
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