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Rain Dove, Kate Bornstein, and María José get real about sex and gender.
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@LarrosaMari
@LarrosaMari 8 лет назад
There's a part of me wanting Kate to be my grandma
@aybukebeyza4064
@aybukebeyza4064 7 лет назад
Mari Larrosa sameee
@EllieMcHale1
@EllieMcHale1 5 лет назад
Kate is everyone’s grand person.
@2-d933
@2-d933 5 лет назад
grandpa*
@anemoneandivy1486
@anemoneandivy1486 5 лет назад
@@2-d933 lololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololo
@matcha.addict4139
@matcha.addict4139 4 года назад
Ellie McHale parent
@InflightMami
@InflightMami 8 лет назад
"..so I'd wear a conductor cap for the next two years. whenever someone would call me 'tranny danny', I'd be like 'choo choo.. all aboard' " LMAO :D
8 лет назад
Rain Dove looks absolutely as stunning in a dress as she does in male clothes and I really don't understand why she'd be seen as aggressive for wearing one. I was literally like "damn" when I saw her in the dress.
@WickedNPC
@WickedNPC 8 лет назад
She wouldn't be seen as aggressive for wearing a dress per se. It has to do with the different expectations on how men and women should behave. When people believe that she is a man her attitude comes across as normal but if people believe that she is a woman the same attitude comes across as aggressive and domineering.
@Galemor1
@Galemor1 5 лет назад
She has a stunning body, but because of her masculine looking face, people think she's a boy, or a trans-woman, which they don't want to relate to. Because of that stigma, she comes forward as aggressive, but also because she doesn't really embrace the femininity, she still walks like "a man" when she wears a dress, and if she doesn't go all the way thru with makeup and stuff, she's actually just sending a message that screams and that is aggressive.
@luciacalleja8788
@luciacalleja8788 8 лет назад
María José is stunning; I was enthralled watching her speak. What a beautiful way of talking, her expressions, her mannerisms, her face are just gorgeous.
@selenalamothe997
@selenalamothe997 7 лет назад
I agree completely.
@TonkaUpsidedown
@TonkaUpsidedown 8 лет назад
I honestly and truly can't see why somebody would be angry about this. These people are wonderful, amazing and have an inspiring story. The aren't hurting anyone by being who they are. On the opposite side, people who can't accept these persons are the ones who are the problem, they are the ones that we should be angry about.
@july1996ful
@july1996ful 8 лет назад
I get gender fluidity because I like relate but like damn if your gender is a whole sentence. GIRL
@jvlixn
@jvlixn 8 лет назад
lmao
@KateHedgehog57
@KateHedgehog57 8 лет назад
I believe they went with the "full title" as a point about how society is determined to put you into a box, by any means necessary. And the extended title shows how stupid that is. That being said, realizing that there was a word for how I am, which is also gender fluid, made me feel like I am not alone because there's enough people in the world like me, in one way or another, to grant a title.
@wayjae
@wayjae 8 лет назад
I get gender fluidity, but those outfits genuinely made me cringe. If you wanna be a manwoman, please wear a dress.... or at least something that matches.
@irise6661
@irise6661 8 лет назад
saying that someone has to wear something to 'pass' a certain way is directly going against the idea of gender fluidity because you're saying they have to look like a man or a woman. that's not the point
@randomnessiscool
@randomnessiscool 8 лет назад
People can wear whatever they want and describe themselves however they want. Their 'gender' is a whole sentence because they're describing difference aspects of themselves. Just like someone saying "I'm a blonde, athletic, musically inclined, nerdy, gay, trans boy." That's just who they are, you can chill.
@einsame_Maria
@einsame_Maria 8 лет назад
Rain Dove...I think I fell in love...
@aden-lj7wb
@aden-lj7wb 8 лет назад
gender is such a personal thing. in my opinion, it's up to an individual to decide what labels make them feel good and fit them the best, or no labels at all. i think it's ridiculous that we're expected by western society to shove ourselves into these two ridged boxes, male and female. we only have one short life, why spend it trying to fit into a label that's practically unobtainable?
@musicnerd1967
@musicnerd1967 8 лет назад
Well said!
@ruffey1748
@ruffey1748 8 лет назад
gender is man and woman, not male and female. male and female are biological facts, which society has attached either masculinity or femininity to. male+ masculinity= man female+ femininity=woman. The only logical, factual part is the biological sexes, which aren't the same as gender.
@musicnerd1967
@musicnerd1967 8 лет назад
Ra Fie That's a good explanation, I might use it some time.
@aden-lj7wb
@aden-lj7wb 8 лет назад
Ra Fie absolutely, i completely agree. using male and female as the equivalent of man and women in my first comment was just me trying to show how most of western society perceives it to be, as gender and sex going hand in hand. which isn't true. thanks for making me clarify though.
@cbreeze123
@cbreeze123 8 лет назад
perfect, this is the difference
@MeerschweinchenLol
@MeerschweinchenLol 8 лет назад
I'm not sure what pronouns they prefer but i really wanna kiss the person with the long hair
@Ale-rq1nz
@Ale-rq1nz 8 лет назад
same holy crap they're aesthetically pleasing
@MariaJose-re4lt
@MariaJose-re4lt 8 лет назад
she/her
@Ale-rq1nz
@Ale-rq1nz 8 лет назад
+CARMEN Estrellas I'm recognizing her beauty ❤️
@icedovermoon
@icedovermoon 8 лет назад
How is saying someone looks good objectifying them?
@pupberry
@pupberry 8 лет назад
+CARMEN Estrellas what😂
@catherineheathcliff9025
@catherineheathcliff9025 8 лет назад
Omg Maria Jose you are so so so so beautiful. Not only physically but that confidence you project. You left me speechless.
@Warrendoe
@Warrendoe 8 лет назад
I'm sure when I was 20 I'd have found this confusing because I had never met people outside the broadly accepted 2 gender.s...but now at 60 life didn't go the way I thought to it would, I've had a fascinating life I'm just an ordinary woman single till I was 34....met a man totally opposite to what I thought I'd spend my life with and he died last year after w6 years together. The ONLY things that matter are being happy in your own skin, and to be loving and accepting with others....( as Jesus said "Treat others the way you want to be treated) and hopefully find someone to share your life with...all the rest is entirely up to you. I find these three people intriguing and beautiful and would love to meet them...I wish all 3 of you well in your life journeys. To those making negative comments ...if you were living a life based on love and tolerance you would not be making such comments and would understand. You have time to grow and open your mind and heart.
@cocoacoolness
@cocoacoolness 8 лет назад
The first time my little brother dressed himself, he put on a tutu
@DabDiichLiieb
@DabDiichLiieb 7 лет назад
aish almotery why are you so angry, it's just a cute story
@selenalamothe997
@selenalamothe997 7 лет назад
"Because tutus are usually for girls, look at him breaking the stereotype" on the other hand, its just cloth. cute.
@cakeonaplate
@cakeonaplate 8 лет назад
while it would be ideal to go without labels, society isn't ready for that yet. We're still hung up on liberal vs conservative lol. I feel for these individuals. Feeling threatened for experimenting and discovering is absurd. Just because I have manly qualities doesn't mean that my femininity is broken. This movement kind of encourages people to see others as human beings, rather than a label. And for some people, humanness is scary. Talk about being scared of your own reflection!!
@jenbroccoli861
@jenbroccoli861 7 лет назад
"I thought that meant that I was into trains." Wowzersssss! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭
@adelafejkova17
@adelafejkova17 7 лет назад
I am crying like a baby and just replaying this video again and again, I cant stop my tears, this is SO BEAUTIFUL!
@katrinekaersvang2438
@katrinekaersvang2438 8 лет назад
I definitely support that one can be whoever and whatever they are. But, I often hear trans people say something like "as a kid I couldn't imagine growing up as a woman and like wear dresses and have long hair and stuff so I knew I was a man" and theres just something wrong with that statement in my opinion... I identity as a girl/women and can't imagine wearing dresses and having long hair neither... If one thinks that thats the only look a women can have then I understand why one would think that the gender is too shallow for them to feel comfortable identitfying with. But if you think the gender society put on you from birth isn't enough or that its too shallow for you, why not just redefine it? With that being said, again, you can be whatever and whoever you are:)
@shiho15
@shiho15 6 лет назад
I was smiling with misted eyes all the time watching this. "There is more people that feel this way!!" Thanks for the clarity and the honesty.
@albatross7327
@albatross7327 7 лет назад
"I'm looking for respect and intent" well said and full of compassion for themself and others. People who overcome society shunning them learned to love themselves without the help of the masses, and in doing so gained a compassion they can share with every and anyone. We misfits have the most golden hearts.
@femiyr
@femiyr 8 лет назад
im glad im not seeing many negative responses to this video!!! It makes me happy people are accepting, and if not, tolerant to this and that at the least is comforting :^D
@axica5434
@axica5434 8 лет назад
What a group of beautiful people
@cakeonaplate
@cakeonaplate 8 лет назад
rain doves childhood story always gets me! soo cute
@ThinWhiteAxe
@ThinWhiteAxe 5 лет назад
'I don't believe I'm a woman, never really made it as one. But I like looking like one, that's fun for me.' I kinda feel the same about looking like a boy. I like being cute boy.
@towhatdegree
@towhatdegree 8 лет назад
This is beautiful. It's so inspiring to see people unapologetically being themselves.
@user-wo3mq1nk1k
@user-wo3mq1nk1k 7 лет назад
I actually relate to the person with the pink jacket thing, it feels good to know that there's people like me in the world. ☺
@clintjohnson1023
@clintjohnson1023 8 лет назад
Maria seem kinda cool,these people in general seem just like average normal people living their lives,why does everyone make a big deal?
@vivianrose3273
@vivianrose3273 8 лет назад
I saw Rain Dove in the thummbnail and screamed. Also great video!
@trompijoe
@trompijoe 6 лет назад
María José is just breathtaking 😍 (I'm from the island and I would give anything to be somebody that feels this comfortable in their own skin)
@lavernecoleman654
@lavernecoleman654 8 лет назад
Wow!! I'm confused after watching!
@Lunnalee100
@Lunnalee100 5 лет назад
No, they are confused
@phoebedickinson438
@phoebedickinson438 4 года назад
The person with long hair her outfit is so good I love it where can I get it
@alextillett367
@alextillett367 8 лет назад
Maria Jose had me cracking up
@milomccree8313
@milomccree8313 8 лет назад
I love it when stuff like this pop's into my recommendations! Also a lot of people did this so I'm jumping the bandwagon too; Hi there I'm Aj/ Eri, I'm Pansexual and Genderfluid and videos like this help me realize that there's better people in this world. Spread love kiddos!
@blusterybumblebee3958
@blusterybumblebee3958 8 лет назад
Mister pink jacket is exceptionally handsome. And I liked the fact that he stated that if one adresses him in a respectful manner, the pronoun one uses doesn't really matter, because calling a single person "they" or "them" is not really something that I am confortable with, because I just feel that I'm speaking to two people when I see only one person.
@aclementine9928
@aclementine9928 8 лет назад
wow she looks incredible in that white dress :o
@psychi1465
@psychi1465 7 лет назад
What Rain (pink jacket) said about pronouns... I absolutely 100% wholeheartedly agree with what they said. That's exactly how I feel about my pronouns and they put it into words perfectly Keep being awesome all you beautiful people
@kelly-cj9zy
@kelly-cj9zy 8 лет назад
I'm so confused
@aprilfinucane
@aprilfinucane 8 лет назад
I'm so incredibly in love with this
@breesevere
@breesevere 8 лет назад
This is great! These are beautiful people inside and out.
@birde7421
@birde7421 7 лет назад
Beautiful. I truly love this.
@acr9562
@acr9562 8 лет назад
the one with the long hair sounds like Violet Chachki
@WeCaredALot
@WeCaredALot 8 лет назад
The guy with the long hair is extremely attractive, and I love his vibe.
@maezap3898
@maezap3898 7 лет назад
I love the second person. They were great.
@Szophyas
@Szophyas 7 лет назад
I love how the producers played with the lights so all of them can appear more feminine/masculine according to their preferred pronouns
@tavidermy3974
@tavidermy3974 7 лет назад
I identify as a attack helicopter *is wearing a helicopter costume*
@claraz5235
@claraz5235 8 лет назад
I love this. We need this. Well all need to love, we all love the same way. Why does it matter?
@elainemarie9470
@elainemarie9470 7 лет назад
I love this topic; it is so powerful and important. It's 2017. Why do we still have binary gender/sex/identification/orientation norms?? Why is it considered pathological? These are spectrums that can be fluid, not static. I don't want to be boxed in or pigeonholed, who would? I am an elder, cis-female, lesbian orientation, masculine identity that LOVES to be frilly, feminine, and fashionable. For Halloween long ago, I won a costume contest as a drag queen, at a time when such a category didn't exist, much less accepted. I am viewed by the world as a traditional heterosexual woman who sometimes overdoes feminine traits. A lesbian who is invisible to her own community due to internalized normative standards. Thank you Allure.
@KC-to9xl
@KC-to9xl 8 лет назад
Choo choo! that is adorable and hysterical :)
@laraaaa55
@laraaaa55 8 лет назад
They're all so beautiful oh my God it's amazing and I'm so glad that there is so much love in the comments they deserve all the love in the world
@jvlixn
@jvlixn 8 лет назад
i'm a little girl living in the real world and it's so hard to get by
@bobranch9093
@bobranch9093 8 лет назад
love Rain Dove she is my inspiration!!!
@godzzwrath
@godzzwrath 5 лет назад
So i identify as Non-Binary ( I'm more lenient to male, but i act like a girl and like dressing like a girl ), My parents dont understand very much, they try to say im female, then say that i want to be male, and i don't think of myself as either. I really wish i could look the way i wanted to, but it's a hell of a long road, including top surgery, weight loss, haircuts and all that jazz. Its gonna be hell trying to become who i want to be, but i'm trying. My parents also say that me watching Jeffree Star is enabling my gender dysphoria, which iSNt trUE (I also think Maria is *SO BEAUTIFUL OH MY LAWD* And Kate is an inspiration to me as they're also nb :>)
@TrasselJoojon
@TrasselJoojon 8 лет назад
I just can't take my eyes off them, they're soooooo good looking 💕
@Samuel115s
@Samuel115s 8 лет назад
this is fascinating. not gonna lie rain dove would make a really handsome man if she was trans, she is sooo handsome :). the first guy is actually handsome, he would look so much better if he dressed like a boy and tried to sound less camp. rain dove actually suits man clothing and short hair, femininity would not suit her so she did the right thing :)
@oOMissPoodlePantsOo
@oOMissPoodlePantsOo 8 лет назад
I think the thing that bothers me about this is that, Yes, I am so happy that the world is going forward, accepting. But all of a sudden you have this group of people pushing the limits. its like a Vegan telling you every 5 minutes they are vegan and a lot of people that identify as a different gender have the need to remind you every five minutes what they identify with... If you are what you are, thats what you are! Reminding people what you are all the time takes power away and it sounds like you are convincing yourself and not others.
@Kiwifluffball
@Kiwifluffball 6 лет назад
I’m a purple hippo scientist that believes in ducks
@icedovermoon
@icedovermoon 8 лет назад
Please let them all know that being pansexual includes being interested in/open to being with males, females, and anyone in-between or off the spectrum completely! And there are more of us (Pans) out there than you might think.
@anyjen
@anyjen 8 лет назад
All these people are incredibly beautiful and seem to have really interesting personalities and I would count myself as lucky if they ever smiled in my direction.
@GirdyTee
@GirdyTee 6 лет назад
Thanks for sharing, like also the age range.
@dabneyscholler8495
@dabneyscholler8495 2 года назад
She looks like that fun camp counselor
@edenstorm5912
@edenstorm5912 8 лет назад
Maria is sooo beautiful and so is rain and kate :)
@milenuez
@milenuez 8 лет назад
I just love this videos
@bekahshook901
@bekahshook901 7 лет назад
This is so messed up. How can anyone ever think gender is offensive.
@adobe2278
@adobe2278 8 лет назад
Strange . . . . how 'ya think you're okay with something . . . and then you SEE it.
@AnnieWilson-dg3wj
@AnnieWilson-dg3wj 8 лет назад
I am so jealous of your long brown hair. Omg it's gonna take so long to grow mine out!😩😂😂
@MadeForMartians
@MadeForMartians 8 лет назад
i hit that whip on this like button so fast
@renatarfrazatto1400
@renatarfrazatto1400 8 лет назад
I loved this
@samv3244
@samv3244 8 лет назад
Love this ❤️
@LoLo-cv8cp
@LoLo-cv8cp 5 лет назад
Omg I LOVE Rain Dove.
@victoriawestfall4281
@victoriawestfall4281 8 лет назад
Amazing ❤️✨
@M0chiM033
@M0chiM033 7 лет назад
People like this need their own planet.
@unoriginal_name4576
@unoriginal_name4576 7 лет назад
i can't tell if this comment is for or against this video
@funkygothpossum3964
@funkygothpossum3964 7 лет назад
The person with long brown hair is hella cute
@zoelucmarie6913
@zoelucmarie6913 8 лет назад
Gosh Maria can you teach me how to dress that good please I look like a bag of potatos most of the time 😩🙌🏼
@rooooooooooh
@rooooooooooh 5 лет назад
Maria ahhhhhh. You're so beautiful.
@pinkpanther7442
@pinkpanther7442 5 лет назад
I identify as an ancient feminine-masculine burdian Egyptian scarab from a rural village in Bangladesh but also from Pangea. I have been decaying for 10 trillion years, so my pronouns are “yagzeedoogza/yeetyoink”. My sexuality is called “coupexual”, meaning I am only attracted to grocery store coupons, and only the broccoli ones. IF YOU MISPRONOUNCE OR I DEEM YOU DISRESPECTFUL MY COMMUNITY WILL PROTEST AND I WILL PERSONALLY TEAR YOU FROM LIMB TO LIMB. Omg though, I just wish I could be accepted as normal.
@cmmndrblu
@cmmndrblu 6 лет назад
I'm not really attracted to people based on their gender so much as their sex.
@mlmills7873
@mlmills7873 7 лет назад
lovelovelove this
@princessmuffin951
@princessmuffin951 7 лет назад
I respect everyone but personally I cant accept not having a gender. its like an obvious thing, even animals, plants have gender , and deep down i think something is not right with these peoples belief. But i like to hear what everyone has to say
@thefluffyaj4119
@thefluffyaj4119 7 лет назад
Im so happy to see theM hAPPY, EVEN IF SOMe People dont understanD iT (PLEASE IGNORe Caps, its an ocd thinG)
@cerisemin
@cerisemin 7 лет назад
What is María's social media?
@LyDoi365
@LyDoi365 8 лет назад
small thing, but lately ive been seeing forms with gender: F/M/other. and i guess thats saying something about society.
@pixelpudding3914
@pixelpudding3914 5 лет назад
I’m scared to look in the comments
@alegarrido8504
@alegarrido8504 7 лет назад
this are the kind of trans people that is really lovely... and real
@-lore-2484
@-lore-2484 7 лет назад
is that a tardis necklace?
@lollypopllp
@lollypopllp 7 лет назад
I love this
@simw7232
@simw7232 6 лет назад
I love kate bornstein's anchs
@Sevencrashing
@Sevencrashing 7 лет назад
Did anyone else notice the TARDIS necklace?
@14freckles14
@14freckles14 7 лет назад
Does anyone know marías like twitter or instagram or anything?
@tabinkum
@tabinkum 7 лет назад
AUNTY KATE !
@Ale-rq1nz
@Ale-rq1nz 8 лет назад
the person with the long hair is so beautiful I'm in love
@poppyspainting1393
@poppyspainting1393 8 лет назад
the man*
@evaashaaw
@evaashaaw 8 лет назад
+Natalie S. you've commented so many times on this video and you're so hateful, I hope one day you find peace within yourself and can be more open minded.
@poppyspainting1393
@poppyspainting1393 8 лет назад
+eva shaw I commented two times, he's a man, there's only 2 genders
@poppyspainting1393
@poppyspainting1393 8 лет назад
+SegwayIsTrash sorry I didn't know there were chromosomes for transgender and nonbinaries
@BluePlatipi
@BluePlatipi 8 лет назад
Sorry, I thought you meant /gender/, not sex. That's more of a linguistics error, seeing as how the actual definition of gender does not refer to chromosomes.
@annika2174
@annika2174 8 лет назад
Rain Dove is actually the coolest name ever.
@oliviamo
@oliviamo 8 лет назад
Annika Park I know it's like Prince picked it!
@despactiocheeto8542
@despactiocheeto8542 5 лет назад
okay okay not to be hateful but sounds like a warrior cat oc 👌🏼👌🏼
@madhatterloveswhiskey2445
@madhatterloveswhiskey2445 5 лет назад
Name matches her unique personality
@donteatmytoxiccandy4730
@donteatmytoxiccandy4730 8 лет назад
Dafuq has BDSM to do with gender?
@malaka.1535
@malaka.1535 7 лет назад
Don't eat my toxic candy ikr
@alexlikesgirls
@alexlikesgirls 7 лет назад
bdsm is not part of the lgbt+ community. there are obviously lgbt+ people who are into that but just because you like kinky stuff doesn't make you queer. imo
@nriracha
@nriracha 7 лет назад
I think they were talking about the style
@herpsenderpsen
@herpsenderpsen 7 лет назад
idk when BDSM slip under the LGBT term. it's a kink thing, it's unfortunate to mix it in with LGBT.
@floppybeef8689
@floppybeef8689 7 лет назад
It was a joke lmao
@MariaJacobe12
@MariaJacobe12 8 лет назад
"chu chu" I CAN'T!!!!
@montieez
@montieez 8 лет назад
It's called pansexual and I'd kiss all of you.
@geebatman
@geebatman 8 лет назад
Thank you for saying this; I was thinking just the same!
@Real_Yagrum_Bagarn
@Real_Yagrum_Bagarn 8 лет назад
Same
@lunarcorpse
@lunarcorpse 8 лет назад
I was wondering what pansexual was.
@bookhousegirl
@bookhousegirl 7 лет назад
Yes!
@glassofmilk7141
@glassofmilk7141 7 лет назад
.....pansexual.....is a sexuality......not gender.....
@contrabassoon
@contrabassoon 8 лет назад
Im very much part of this. I just don't get why all the labels are necessary. In my head, I'm a man who simply enjoys dabbling into the feminine realm.
@Romulano100
@Romulano100 8 лет назад
Exactly!! All these people are trying soo hard... I can see their eyes screaming "I'M A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE" I don't want to be rude but... (Sorry if my english is bad)
@rosysingh6699
@rosysingh6699 8 лет назад
somehow...somewhere..i love you. Your comment is beautiful.
@trinityhill3084
@trinityhill3084 8 лет назад
Romulano100 oh my gosh yes! :)
@Shizznickel
@Shizznickel 8 лет назад
I'd love it and I'm sure so many others would, too.. if it were this simple. I'm a woman.. I look like one, feel like one, and sometimes talk like one.. but sometimes, I'm kind of manly, too. :) Unfortunately stupid people like to push their rules on others so we need terms to make it easier for said stupid people.
@clairelouise3591
@clairelouise3591 7 лет назад
Exactly! The first person is literally struggling to list all the things they label themselves as, they just seem to want to be 'different'. My friend is a girl and was born a girl but wears shirts/guys jeans etc. and people are always like 'oh so youre queer, transgender, non-conforming, genderfluid etc. etc.' and shes like '..i just like the clothes'
@amyg4983
@amyg4983 8 лет назад
Fuck who you want look how you want act how you want, as long as it's not hurting anybody then who's to judge
@torinakins
@torinakins 8 лет назад
seeing people as people really isnt that hard. you just choose not to.
@userin2963
@userin2963 8 лет назад
"I'm not transsexual because I love the body I have. My state of being is just unique."
@imagine2C
@imagine2C 8 лет назад
when you have to think that hard to say who you are....just say "I am me"
@lunarcorpse
@lunarcorpse 8 лет назад
Or in Swahili, mimi nina me: meaning I'm me.
@twosecondboy3378
@twosecondboy3378 8 лет назад
BDSM aint a gender, darling. its a kink.
@dianaherrera3828
@dianaherrera3828 8 лет назад
Ok but I think I fell in love with Rain Dove srsly
@coocoobananass
@coocoobananass 8 лет назад
hello, I'm Amanda I'm a girl but I dress both really. I'm bisexual and I'm doing great :)
@thatsnotmyname4091
@thatsnotmyname4091 8 лет назад
what do you mean you dress both????? CLOTHES DON'T HAVE GENDERS RIGHT??? :D
@Shizznickel
@Shizznickel 8 лет назад
Lets not split hairs here.. We all know that they mean "traditionally" because traditionally clothes are usually associated with specific genders and some are not.
@thatsnotmyname4091
@thatsnotmyname4091 8 лет назад
Shiloh 陆冬恋 I think everyone should just wear whatever they want, and not what they ''traditionally'' should wear
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