“I go to therapy 4x a week” is not equivalent to “I am more emotionally and mentally stable than you, a person who doesn’t go to therapy” and Trisha clearly does not understand that.
@@SmokenHash yeah, I took it as Trish being offended he was patronising them with the sarcastic comment about them being fine, and basically implying they were flying off the handle when they were staying relatively calm by Trish standards just frustrated with some of his rude comments, in that position I would have been annoyed too, Trish was raising valid points and he basically reduced it to them being hysterical
@@zeldazebstrika2127 Yeah, I can understand how they would take it as hurtful. And honestly, I also don't think it's ever a good idea to tell people how they're feeling even if you want them to be honest. It takes a moment for people to process how they're feeling in the moment sometimes. So he was obviously also frustrated with Trish and used sarcasm... which, in my eyes, kinda more hurtful than how Trish was showing their frustration at first. I just think they're both making a lot of (hopefully unintentional) wrong moves.
I don’t think Ethan meant to be condescending with the ribbon dancing, think he was frustrated because it’s easy to throw out big ideas when you don’t pay for them and don’t have any involvement with putting it together.
@@feebsz384 You clearly don’t watch her as she produces conplexvmusic videos every view months, throws crazy ass parties 1-2 a year, goes on tours and cosplays A LOT. Trisha loves to play different characters and reinvents herself ever so often and I think it is way more “creative” than sitting in a podcast studio and gossiping. Trisha is famous for her “crying on the kitchen floor” and unedited stuff, but she does a lot of different stuff and uses many different plattforms on the daily.
So I don’t know a lot but isn’t it true that Trisha WANTED more responsibility on the podcast tho? It’s true Ethan did everything for the technical aspects but calling Trisha “the talent” also felt wrong. I’m underinformed tho so I’m completely open to other views lol
@@c00mgoblin no, she didn’t. I’m not like a dedicated viewer but I’ve watched parts of episodes here and there since the start and early on they had a fight because she was upset he was texting her before the show for her input. She just wanted to show up. She has ideas but doesn’t want to do the work to set them up or pay for them.
Trisha calling the pregnancy announcement “recycled content” is one of the rudest parts to me bc she knew that Hila and Ethan and been trying to get pregnant for a while
I don’t think the announcement itself was what she took issue with. It was just the title bc she mentioned that she thought people would think it was click bait about her also being pregnant and she’s super sensitive about her inability to get pregnant which ties back into the rage/anxiety tunnel vision.
@@maranduhjean I was going to make a comment similar but saw yours so def agreeeee! Almost every single Trish video she talks about possible babies, wanting babies, wishing she could have/already has babies. & truly that caption is clickbait to her having a baby
It was mean of them to do it on the frenemies podcast and make it seem like Trisha was wrong for being upset like she’s the main female on that show why would you said pregnancy announcements. Could have easily said talking about Ethan pregnancy or really any other title
Really really disrespectful Hila and Ethan should be able to talk about their happiness when ever they want. Especially because Trisha is part of the family circle. When my sister was pregnant I let her talk to me when ever she wanted about her pregnancy. Hearing that your pregnancy is old news while you're going through it has to really hurt. Again *from your own family*
As a person with Borderline Personality, I really appreciate how you walk the line between respect and accountability when talking about the disorder. It's honestly refreshing to hear you talk about people like me as actual people because we constantly get vilified. Thank you. Seriously Also I do just wanna say I'm 27 years old and have never made racist or ableist comments. BPD is NEVER an excuse to be racist.
I've got BPD too and I agree, it is never okay to be racist, homophobic, transphobic or ableist, and having BPD is no excuse for any of those things, and no matter what you have, if you say those things, you SHOULD ABSOLUTELY be held accountable.
@Julie Wolf i’m not defending them but i will say they admitted to being uneducated about Israel and Palestine and said they were wrong in a later podcast
VALIDATE the EMOTION: You're feeling this way for a reason, you're not 'crazy' NOT the BEHAVIOUR: I understand you're feeling this way, AND talking/acting this way to people is not a healthy way to get these feelings out- it's not fair on others, it isn't helpful. SOLUTION: Lets have a discussion about how you can express these valid emotions without becoming a person you don't want to be/hurting others and yourself. I was in intensive therapy for my BPD for 3 years and this is how myself and the people in my life manage the extreme emotions
@Alex Weber it can take a lot of time and practice and you might still make mistakes but there's always hope to make amends down the road, but of course don't let yourself wait for that to happen with someone who can't make an effort to work on themselves. Recovery is possible, it takes a lot of dedicated effort but it will change your life for the better - I love DBT and it has definitely helped me find healthier relationships and communicate better with those people in my life.
ethan explained why he uploaded the video without cutting the fight in his response to trisha's apology. he said that the only thing that kept his career and reputation after everything trisha was saying was the fact that all their interactions were recorded and uploaded for everyone to see, and i have to say i agree with him. could you imagine how crazy it would've been for him to try to defend himself if we had not seen all of their fights?
Yes! The boss (Ethan) is responsible for the environment at work. If one employee is behaving inappropriately toward other employees (and I think that discussing the quality of the crew's work, and possibly replacing them, in front of them, is very inappropriate), you have to draw some hard lines.
Not really. They’re kinda both at fault for not communicating correctly. Sure, they’re co workers but they’re also potential family and they need to communicate effectively if they’re gonna have the same relatives. Trisha is pretty over eccentric and Ethan is more of a realist when it does come to ideas for the podcast. I honestly would be pretty upset if someone I had a podcast with just waiting for that moment until I blow up like a ticking time-bomb and quit. In Ethan’s defense, Trisha’s ideas were so far out there and that would really increase the budget immensely. Not only just that, but it might fuck a lot of people over if Trisha ever did quit.
Production costs aren’t just for crew salary, Ethan owns all of the camera and lighting and sound equipment etc which Trisha did not put money towards, she just shows up and gets half the memberships and 45% of the video revenue. If anything, she was getting overpaid
I know damn well Trisha would have blown so much money on useless stuff if they were in charge of making and decorating sets. 50k for designer curtains on the wall.
Not to mention, they’ve been trying to get pregnant for SO LONG and were so excited about it and she just tried to squash it🥺 it was just sad to watch/-:
as someone who watches both, he only would talk about topics that greatly affected him like the baby and his anger towards keemstar with trisha. bc taking about it with trisha gave another perspective to something he cared about. i feel like whenever ethan brought these topics up however trisha was never interested and wouldnt be on ethans side
Trisha said to air it all so people could decide for themselves and Ethan agreed because otherwise it would be he said/she said and it would have potentially made it way worse. But yeah it shouldn't have been brought up on air and in front of the crew like that in the first place.
You should think of doing a podcast, I’d love to listen to your thoughts on fashion, minor drama that doesn’t fit into a video and just your overall thoughts and feelings. You’re very witty and your jokes are genuinely funny and hearing stories and more about you as a person would be great.
I thought he went way too soft on them when they said the crap they did about Hila. This woman is his WIFE. No way in God's green earth would I have stood for it if a cohost was calling someone that significant in my life those trash words. They went WAY low with all of that. Completely lost their temper and acted a fool. Not okay.
EXACTLY... Like what did Ethan do at most? joke about their weight? (which they also did to Ethan) any other stuff Trisha made it seem like was okay and didn’t express being uncomfortable with it until way later on so it wasnt obvious since they talked about it like nothing? Trisha insulted his wife. And then disregarded their pregnancy :/ TOO SOFT.
Maybe he didn't want to aggravate the situation and make Trisha angrier, but if I were Hila I'd be kinda hurt that my husband didn't defend me more tbh. But again, Ethan seems to love her a lot and Hila is pretty chill, so it was probably best that they didn't start arguing with Trish or things would have turned sour really quickly imo.
Exactly but she doesn't want to apologize to Hila or Ethan. (She was also fetishize Jewish men, say antisemitism things, stereotyping Jewish people, made Ethan uncomfortable, called Hila the c word)
I mean, to be fair mukbangs are a style of video like commentary and tutorials. They talks about different stuff in them. (Pls don’t take this as me defending trish lol)
She told ethan multiple times throughout the podcast she would leave Frenemies to go on other people's podcasts, or make a podcast with Dr Drew, etc. I don't blame him for thinking she wasn't a forsure thing to make frenemies its own entity.
Trisha flat out told Ethan in one of the episodes to not text her and ask about the show anymore, as in ideas or whatever. Now she complains? And she was flat out so rude about the segment they were supposed to do that last show, that was organized or an idea of Dan or someone's gf. She had a whole fit about it.
Trisha has a problem communicating what’s really upsetting them...instead they go off about something else and can’t stop themselves. I also feel like they assume the worst so they are always trying to get ahead of it which makes it a reality. They want to leave you before you leave them...but let’s be honest at the end of the day it was best for this to end now because if they would of gone on to be partners and this is the way they handle it, well, it could of been a lot worse!
The “they have no right to be angry” argument always ticks me off because people can’t help how they feel, that’s not really something you change about yourself. No matter how much you grow as a person, you can’t change how your brain reacts to things. So they obviously had a right to be mad, but how they dealt with their emotions is another thing. How you deal with emotions is something you can work on, not the emotions themselves. So really that argument should have been “hey, Trisha really didn’t handle things the proper way here” instead of “you don’t deserve to be mad”
Honestly I agree I remember how she kept defending that pastor scammer to Ethan. It bug me so much like dude he scams people, that's the problem who cares if he "teachings" make you feel better. Scamming people (she has promoted scams before) is so wrong on so many levels. Yet she tries to excuses it. Idc if you have mental issues it doesn't give you a excuse to defend shitty behaviour of others or yourself.
@Gabe Gear no one has to tell you their medical history. It's none of anyone's business. She choose to say. Pretty sure she said she was diagnosed the last few years. So she didn't know she had it when she dated Sean. Still doesn't mean she not a bad person but stop that bullshit behaviour that accuses people of faking illnesses. Especially she show clear signs of having mental health issues.
@Gabe Weber Its not about what you think lol. A person with mental health issues cant "exaggerate" them, thats not how it works. And if Trisha was somehow fully faking having BPD, which I sincerely dont think they are, that would still be the result of a different mental disorder. Fully mentally sound people do not pretend to be ill.
Someone else theorized that it’s possible she was upset because she possibly can’t have babies or maybe wanted to be a mom by now (I’m not spilling any tea this is just a theory) which could make sense but again, it’s not possible for Ethan to read her mind!
They did recycle content it was clear if you watched both podcasts, he talked about jack paul, triller and kemstar on both and gave the exact same rants
@@BaconNMegs Are you familiar with any other podcast? People talk about their lives. He's getting sued by triller, of course he's gonna talk about it multiple times. They got pregnant after a long process of trying, of course he's gonna talk about it multiple times. If Trisha got pregnant they'd never shut up about it.
Counterpoints: - hiring new staff and expanding on the old staff costs money. if they're hiring new people just to work on the show and keeping the old crew to also work on the show that's going to significantly drive production costs up - also Trisha, depite what they may claim, is flakey and unreliable. it's asinine to hire more individuals soley for this one show that she has walked out on 2(?) times before. - ribbon dancing is a good idea.... but not for a podcast. the show is a podcast, if they wanted to do other things like ribbon dancing they'd have to completely change the format so that it's just a long form vlog show, which is *fine* if that's what all parties want but again that would cost more money in changing equipment, losing money on the set they had built for a podcast, and potentially losing some viewership. edited to add: - "who wouldn't be hurt by [assuming they're just going to quit]" sure its hurtful but then you're once again expecting ethan to walk on eggshells and take unnecessary and exorbitant amounts of risk on doing all of this. especially when it's impossible to please her because when her ideals change she refuses to communicate it. until she has proven she's capable of being an adult and using their words to communicate in an appropriate fashion and will not walk out when a disagreement arises, it's completely fine for him to proceed with caution when continuing on the podcast with her. she can be hurt but she can't be surprised or blame him for acting that way. - and "it's always mental health awareness until it gets ugly" i disagree (in this scenario) because it's mental health awareness until you weaponize your mental issues and therapy usage for pity and personal gain. then i persoanlly am not going to let the mental health be a distraction. even when you say "oh it's not an excuse", theres such a fine line between using it as context and using it as an excuse, and the way people slip to the other side of that line is by saying "but they're trying" to excuse it instead.
finally a sensible take! loved how you phrased 'it's mental health awareness until you weaponize your mental issues and therapy usage for pity and personal gain.'
You don't run a business so i can see why people are confused about the "firing of the crew". He could just hire new crew for frenemies but that would be a big waste of money for someone to be there 1 day a week. There is also a big risk of hiring staff when he has always been unsure how long the podcast will last (because he works with trisha). If he had unlimited resources he might be able to hire a new crew. But with the deal he has with trisha it would not be as profitable when he is the only one that has to pay for all the costs and salaries. On top of that she does not have to deal with the work and training that goes into it. And even if they had hired new staff the old crew would still have less job to do and probably would be fired from working on frenemies. Hiring new staff makes almost no sence unless 1. Trisha is willing to put in much more work. And 2. The business is overflowing with money to just throw around and still be profitable. Or 3. The crew can't or don't want to work.
I think its fair to say to someone; Youve walked out 2/3 times already, its a v risky investment to put a lot of money into frenemies well assess it in a year. If Trish is going to say oh thats triggering or he wont give her what she wants than I think its manipulation to get her desired outcome.
While Trisha's reaction can somewhat be explained, I find it strange that other family members that they trust don't help them see other perspective before lashing out. Primarily, I am talking about the sister, who decided to make videos on this topic herself and just made things worse. I can only imagine what she's saying privately, but it seems that she is the one that pushes Trisha to react.
i mean if they grew up together wouldnt the circumstance that led to trishas bpd also have a lasting effect on the sister??? who's to say she's any better
Based on some rumors and Trisha herself her family is weird. Like they have filmed videos for only fans which is interesting…. I don’t know where but someone said that her sister has used sexual toys on Trisha for videos too? And other stuff. I’m not typing but the family seems unconventional
@@sheisaMachine that sounds yikes-worthy. not that surprising if what she put in her book is indicative of her experiences, however fictionalised, their recurring themes :/
Exactly! And her family agreeing with her anger just further validates Trisha’s feelings and makes her angrier and angrier. She has nobody in her life who grounds her and challenges her thought process and that’s the problem.
BPD is really difficult, I was diagnosed in 2016, and it takes a looooot of time to break certain patterns. Your emotions change within hours and very dramatically. The emotional skin thing very much hits home. It is really tough to watch her publicly burn these bridges or hurt those around her so publicly because I can empathize with this within my private life. I can’t imagine it being out in the forefront during my “healing” (which you are ALWAYS healing from BPD, it’s a constant effort of growth in my opinion) none of this is an excuse, I would never excuse how shitty I’ve been to certain people in the past, but she should have definitely just taken a time out to collect her thoughts, to cool off and to deal with it privately. One of the hardest things for me was to learn to not bottle up my feelings and when to allow them to be present and appropriate. Still not perfect, but it’s taken years to get to a good place and I hope she gets to a good place soon.
trisha frl didn’t understand why ethan took the extra 5%. he had to pay staff :( i’m not gonna say all of this could’ve been avoided cause ngl there’s always been tension but why couldn’t they just communicate edit: so they (trisha) saw him gettting paid more and equated it to oh so he’s viewed as more valuable.
trisha took more than they deserve imo. at the end of the day they are a contractor, but got 45% of youtube subscriptions, on a yt channel that has like 3 podcasts. a lot of people subscribed long before frenemies, in order to support h3, not trisha paytas also, it's def about money, trisha spends money like crazy
its funny because trisha was happy to be less valuable to the company when ethan faced possible law suits, her lower position as essentially an employee has kept her secure. i also agree that she deserved less than she was generously given lmao
OMG. As someone who has BPD, I wanted to cry at how you described everything. Thank you so much for this video, I really appreciate it. Just knowing people are educating themselves on it and educating other people in a good way is amazing to see. So many people misunderstand our disorder. Opinions included and especially with needing to hold Trisha accountable for their behavior, I agree with everything you're saying. It's healthy for us to see and recognize our behavior so we can do better.
I have BPD and I'm sure you've run into the whole Professionals Actually Being Scared To Work With Us issue, and I'm so so so grateful people are educating themselves and others, like you said. One of my fiance's best friends has a wife with BPD and doesn't know I have it and told me women with BPD shouldn't be mothers
but she oversimplified the disorder? i also have BPD, and BPD is a spectrum. not all of us present the same exact symptoms. i recommend the BPD workbook and the book “i hate you don’t leave me” for resources on how your BPD is specific to you and doesn’t specify the entire group :)
Didn’t Trisha’s ideas come from making Ethan uncomfortable and wanting to touch him (when he didn’t want it). Like the ribbon dancing (like zendaya and efron) and wrestling.
@@XOMoonlightXO Why not though? She constantly made sexual remarks towards the man and he told her several times it made him uncomfortable. And she didn't care at all.
@@XOMoonlightXO it seems she finds it funny and i think the audience also find it kind of funny how uncomfortable ethan is whenever she makes sexual comments about him…
As a person who struggles with bpd ( and has spent the last 3 weeks in an literally all consuming rage and fighting the urge to cut every single person I love out of my life ) I feel bad for Trisha. I see and know the patterns they’re are falling in to. Ones you break the plate you can not put it back together but it is the way that you deal with the mess that makes the difference. Unfortunately they did not deal with the mess well and that has consequences. Hopefully they learn to do better
💯 💯 i can understand and have compassion for their behavior considering their situation, but it’s the way they doubled and tripled down after, instead of humbling themself and saying they messed up for me. I would have had so much respect for them if there was accountability.
Agreed. They did not do any of this the right way but im compassionate to the emotions I know they are feeling. BPD relapses are fcking hard to go through and I hope their vision clears on the situation soon.
i think what ethan meant by “firing the whole crew” was firing them from frenemies, not the company. trisha wanted a new crew for frenemies, and even though that doesn’t mean firing dan, AB, Ian, Zack, etc. it means cutting their raise they got to work for frenemies. I think they always go to the defense “i just wanted to hire my sister! (or) i just wanted to hire a new producer!” even then, dan wouldn’t be working on frenemies, kallie would replace someone else, and whoever else they hire would take the spot of an original H3 member.
Still hiring new people means more insurance while the peoole you already hired have that time available… why make things harder when you have a crew that works and shes not involved. Like more crew is higher cost and she woundnt have liked it anyway
exactly! people keep saying ethan’s lying, when he’s really not. it’s been explained time and time again that they would technically be fired specifically from “frenemies”. their earnings would be cut because of that. ethan even AGREED to hire a new producer after trisha’s final blowout, until they suddenly posted the quitting video. hiring a new crew would also mean someone (the ex-crew) would have to either teach/give a rundown to the new crew of the in’s and out’s on how to make frenemies the show it is. there’s so much work to that notion and people just seem to forget that.
@@swill922 ethan did say that they did get a raise for frenemies back in september, so i’m not sure how the financial aspect would continue but it would definitely be a change to their pay to add more crew members
i really love that ur explaining bpd. we hate how trishas acting but bringing awareness to bpd instead of demonizing it is so important and i love you so god damn much for all this- a person w horrible bpd
Honestly I used to act like Trisha but I’ve healed and learned coping techniques I’m also getting therapy, she really needs to listen to what her peers and therapists say.
Ok but trisha uses her mental health as an excuse every single time to abuse someone, just because u have mental health problems doesn’t mean it’s an ok pass to be abusive. I suffer from bipolar and have been so toxic throughout times in my life but I don’t record my manic episodes or allow others to be apart of them because I knowww I will hurt others. I’m still learning patience and handling my disorder but I’m not going to use my mental illess like Trisha to abuse people and act like that’s a way of excusing my behaviour. Anyways that’s my opinion. Sending love to everyone who are suffering from their mental health
From a business standpoint I just want to clarify, Trisha is not an employee, she’s a contractor in other words a vendor. He has no responsibility in creating “a healthy and safe work environment” for a vendor.
I think Trisha may have “implied” that she wanted to fire the crew with out outright saying it. That way she can get her point across but not be held for saying that
Yeah I mean I think it’s important to note Trisha did say she didn’t vibe with them and that she didn’t want Sam there bc she was too sensitive and that ab didn’t do proper research
yeah they called the crews work trash. there's a finite amount of jobs, so if you add more workers is going to, for all intents and purposes, take jobs away from the current workers. and Trish is lying when they say they don't understand that. you're right, it was a way to say that but have plausible deniability.
I get what your saying about “People caring about mental health till it gets ugly” but Trisha has done ALOT. Even on frenemies she was saying ignorant and harmful things. Im not saying she doesnt belong on the internet but at what point does she realize the internet isnt good for her at this point. BPD or not shes been doing this for years…
I think she ultimately gets to decide what’s good for her, even if we all disagree. Maybe the money is good for her (LENDNDKOFJDNF) or maybe right now is just not the time for her to see otherwise. Maybe she benefits a lot more than she loses. Furthermore, I think this stuff happens even without the internet - people with BPD have moments like the one’s she’s had even when there’s nothing live on air. They can also be susceptible to extreme impulsivity, and I believe it just so happens that trisha’s impulsivity is easily be manifested through the internet. For others, it can be shopping, drugs, partying, etc.
@@miiasaurous I definitely understand that this behavior would happen with or without the internet but the internet allows the harmful things she says to reach more ears. I fee bad for her because I get how hard it is to live with mental illness as a fellow struggler but Trisha at this point has money and could be making a life for herself where she doesnt need to be offending ppl on a daily.
@@miiasaurous I mean she can still work alone, this may sound hard, and even that way she will probably still hurt people as she did in her videos in the past but at least there is no need for to be suggected to this behaviours, in this it maybe exagerated in this case and there are a lot of things that I dont like about ethan that I find is just offending people and veils as jokes too but but as a daughter of an alcoholic psychologically and mentally, and verbally and sometimes physical abuse I know how taxing it can be to have to constantly interact with a person that will lash out for maybe anything, that will gaslight how damaging all of that can be not only bc of being a the front of this behaviours but also bc you live in this constant roller coaster where there are a lot of things that are predictable but other times it won't bc they need an excuse to vent their frustration. And honestly living like that is so tiring this is way lesser than that but it doesn't mean that can't be tiring too and can end up with you with worse traits than when you begin that.
@@miiasaurous Trisha isn’t the only person with a mental illness. In fact bpd isn’t real. It’s a clinical diagnosis meaning that you have to check certain boxes to be diagnosed and those people usually have traumatic childhoods. There are many people with traumatic childhood who was never diagnosed with bpd and will never be diagnosed. Everything exists on a spectrum; from diabetes and especially mental illnesses whose symptoms is hard to quantify. You are in fact excusing her actions because you have no idea what symptoms she actually has or what she struggles with. Only Trish and her therapist knows. You can’t generalize the known symptoms of bpd to every action the Trisha does. Again it is a clinical diagnosis. Trisha can be toxic just cause she’s toxic. And she has hurt so many people. Even causing others to have mental breakdowns. At what point do other people’s mental health matter as much as trishas.
Trisha has a history of holding onto and hiding her emotions until she has an episode/breakdown and then blaming others for pushing her to that point i agree that she should have spoken up much earlier and in private n I hope that she is working on that.
Not to mention I’m assuming she wouldn’t have wanted to take out any money from her percentage (just an assumption) but like doesn’t seem like something she’d be okay with
Even if the crew of frenemies stopped doing that and moved to just the h3 podcast, that's still a possible pay cut, purely for the Trisha "comfort" it's not fair for the crew when none of them did anything bad to her. It was so mean, and she did it to basically say "Ethan I'm mad at you and these people support you so their for I don't like them either" she wanted a whole crew on her side so she could always win these arguments, because Ethan and his crew call her out when she needs it.
As someone with BPD, going to therapy 4x a week is concerning. We need time to process between sessions. Trisha needs to learn how to slow down, just like I need to learn.
I needed this so bad today. I'm starting a new psych med today and watching someone who genuinely makes me laugh about what's going on in the world helps me get through the fear and the side effects. it may be only a small comfort at times but it is a comfort nonetheless so thank you Miia for keeping it real, witty, and hilarious as always. 💛
Thank you for saying what gaslighting really is.. bc trisha stays misusing that. And she DOES use therapy practices against people. I agree, BPD plays into that but that behavior can at least (and should) be acknowledged and worked on.
I have BPD too and i liked how u described the emotional skin, I’m gonna use that one to better explain to people why I’m “so sensitive” and why I’m “so extra”, wish more people understood
Trisha said multiple times on many episodes that she would inevitably quit or would drop Frenemies in a heartbeat if anything better came along and that her Frenemies money was just her "play money" anyway.
def feel like ur the first youtuber, that I’ve seen, that actually has a solid take on this whole thing bc u actually contextualized both sides!! ty for makin this
As someone with BPD, I really appreciate your understanding of the disorder. But also, I really understand and feel bad for Trisha sometimes but not a lot of people are willing to learn about and understand our disorder as well. At the same time though, I also find Trisha a bad representation of BPD sometimes because some of their actions cannot be excused by the disorder. BPD is really misunderstood and even looked at as "untreatable" so peoples' responses to things like this kinda scare me beacause of how people may think about me if I say I have BPD as well
Trisha most definitely has helped the stigma, I've been so frustrated following this because there are so many ignorant takes and misinformation spread because of this. :/
@@sharpasrazorslj exactly, it's been really scary because I try to be open about it to spread awareness and also so my friends and family can help me recognize when a symptom may be presenting itself but it's bad enough seeing the look on people's faces when I say what it's called because it does sound scary. Then, you add this on as the only real example of someone with BPD and it makes it worse.
I just can't stand the constant "she's nothing but a toxic person." As if the people saying that aren't toxic somewhere in life... try to have empathy for people. Trish hasn't done anything unforgivable in my opinion, she just seems like she's panicking and reacting.
I posted this under another comment as well and I would be really interested if someone could explain this to me. I'm not very well informed when it comes to BPD unfortunately, so I would be happy to learn more. As far as I've understood them lashing out and being "overly sensitive" can be linked to her disorder. (Not saying everyone with BPD does that) Now I'm wondering if some of their other behaviors - which to me are problematic - could be linked to it as well. For example the way they talks about Jewish people or them being insensitve and ignorant in general towards a lot of different issues. I personally wouldn't make a connection there, but maybe there is one, I don't know. I hope this question doesn't come of as rude or anything. I'm honestly just interested and would love to learn and understand. Because to me them "over-reacting" or "being-mean" isn't really the issues with them. It's that they say some very hurtful things to a lot of different communities and from my perspective this says a lot about their character, but very little to nothing about their mental disorder. But as I said, I might be completely wrong here.
We talk about the same person that call ethan wife a bitch, that say they were bad parent and the same that say so many things really bad about him. And he just say that she is a great person .
Remember when they got a smaller cut on their own podcast ?????? Why is the 5% from Ethan so aggravating but “not making any money from” dish with trish is understandable to them because it is a production company. Everything that Ethan and Hila do is belittled by trish. They still refer to teddy fresh as a little merch line, and won’t acknowledge that H3 productions is a production company, one that she has no stake in.
14:30 no. It's not that trisha doesn't have the "input" in how 5% is spent, that money is literally used in production fees with trisha is too uneducated to understand (as they (trisha) said that themselves). What input would trisha bring? Don't pay you insurance this month, spent it on ribbens for our next show?
I see your point on how Trisha might’ve wanted to expand the crew instead of firing the og and hiring new people. That would be the most logical however, when she brought up the point in frenemies she was complaining about the money and how it seemed like a lot and how she didn’t even like the crew because she felt uncomfortable with them and that she wanted her own crew. That seemed to me like she wanted a whole separate crew for frenemies since she felt uncomfortable with the one now and since she had issues with the money it wouldn’t make sense to expand it and waste more money. So even tho the og crew would still be employees in h3 they’d be fired from the frenemies podcast to be replaced by the crew Trisha wanted. Edit~ Trisha goes by she/her/they/them
Maybe Ethan uploaded the podcast because Trisha and him already talked about the misunderstanding the night of the podcast and had an agreement to add a new person to the crew. Maybe in his mind it was already resolved and would be something they would talk about in the next podcast. It can also be that he needed to fulfill his obligation to the company who sponsored them for that episode. The only thing he did not expect was Trisha making a video saying she is quitting Frenemies.
Also I think they have Patreon subscribers that were able to see the full episode live and it didn't feel fair to not publish the episode for everyone else. But I'm not entirely sure correct me of I'm wrong
13:04 I’m sure Dan would have said not to upload the last pod, but Ethan probably wanted it up anyway so he could have his side shown without the he said/they said stories
you have no idea how refreshing it is when someone without BPD can look at a situation like this without invalidating how her symptoms manifest in particular. she has no excuse for the damage/net-effect her actions cause, but she absolutely deserves the chance to explain & make sense of her behaviors. this is what kind attention looks like and I’m honestly just so grateful for this video even though some of the comments under it are rly effing with me.
As someone that uses mixed pronouns (he/they), I really appreciated how you switch between using she and they for Trisha. I see so many people only use one set of pronouns, which isn't really bad, but I like that it you made the effort to use both.
As someone with best pussy disorder😌 I appreciate how educated your are on the illness, it’s hard to find people who understand it and its amazing to see someone without it still having a great understanding! (Just started watching your channel and can’t stop much love)
Oh girl you have your RESEARCH on this one. You said a bunch of things I hear in DBT so I just KNOW you’re a good friend to the individuals in your life with BPD
yeah, it’s not that simple with bpd, babe. when you get upset about something (even if it’s over something small) it feels like your anger is literally about to burst from your skin like a blister. try to think of a time where you were incredibly angry, now times that x5, that is anger for people with bpd- everytime, even if what they’re upset about seems “small” to other people.
@@fireblood498 uhm bpd is different for everybody. What you just explained sounds like emotional dysregulation which any person can have; especially those with diagnosed mental illnesses. It’s usually cause of childhood trauma or childhood neglect. All that to say don’t generalize your symptoms onto everyone with bpd. It is a clinical psychiatric diagnosis that exists on a spectrum. People with bpd do not check off all the same boxes. Only Trisha and her therapist knows whether her behavior is due to bpd or her just being a troll. There is way too much generalizing going on for these diagnoses when even psychiatrists have a hard time diagnosing patients because of the spectrum.
THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT BPD IN AN EDUCATIONAL WAY AND NOT NEGATIVELY, omg I cannot say how happy I am to hear someone explain BPD in an educational way without a negative perspective for once. This is actually such a helpful video for those who may not understand WHAT BPD is and how it effects us
when she said: it was mostly about creative control I SCREAMED! thank you for bringing all of these takes up!!!!!! i feel like most people are quick to chalk it up to trisha being how they’ve always been
I feel like way too many people were expecting Ethan to know how to handle these types of situations w people who have bpd. He is not responsible for that. He really shouldn’t have to walk around eggshells. I understand controlling your behavior when you have bpd is difficult but the only person who has to be in control is Trisha. At first I was very understanding of her. But as time goes on, she refuses to take any ounce of accountability and is placing all of the blame on Ethan. In terms of what happened with the crew, Trisha implied that she wanted them to be fired. She’s been posting a lot of hypocritical things and she’s really out their family in a tough spot. Regardless, I hope Trisha learns to have more control over time and I hope Ethan heals from this. Ethans faults go more undetected because he’s so calm and obviously doesn’t have bpd. When Ethan said, “well she was just going to quit anyways,” my mind automatically went to the time he promised her that he would never abandon her and would always stick by her side. I know if I were in trishas spot that would obvi hurt me but also make me wonder if his words were empty you know?
I think everyone has their limit and his was exceeded a long time ago. He is not a therapist nor an expert on BPD. Ending frenemies can actually help them reduce amount of tension that the show's was creating between them - remember Trisha is still part of the family so it might be better for them to close this chapter and try to have healthier relationship outside work.
I completely understand wondering if his words were empty, however; I don't see him ending his business relationship with Trisha as going back on his words. Especially since he specified in his video explaining his side of things that he still wants to be friends, if possible, and that she's still a part of the family. She's still Moses' fiancé and he cares for her deeply as a friend. That's why this situation was so messy to begin with, bc Ethan is not a professional or a therapist, and Trisha was his friend so how could he not be hurt by the things she was saying constantly, everyday, on every platform possible rather than to him so they could work it out in any way?
