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The nice folks at Sweetwater let Ben Eller and myself have our way with Sweetwater Studios and we took the opportunity to do a little shootout of our favorite distortion pedals!
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@czechhusky4660
@czechhusky4660 Год назад
03:32 - EVH 5150 Overdrive 06:08 - Freidman BE-OD 08:06 - Revv G3 12:05 - Boss Metal Zone "Waza" 15:20 - JHS AT Plus 19:10 - Wampler Gearbox 24:06 - DOD Grunge
@al3x2728
@al3x2728 Год назад
Thanks!
@allstarvb
@allstarvb 2 года назад
I have the EVH 5150 pedal and I love it , I need that Andy Timmons pedal now 🤘🏼
@WillAlleymouth
@WillAlleymouth 2 года назад
The gain trim pot inside the BE-OD makes a hell of a difference to the sound in my opinion. I've turned it almost down to 0 in mine and it is way more usable, dynamic and responsive.
@bdwitt66
@bdwitt66 2 года назад
Yes! I have the deluxe and have one channel's gain turned almost down to 0 and it's just lovely.
@nicosonic
@nicosonic 2 года назад
others might prefer to have the gain turned all the way up.
@joelspaulding5964
@joelspaulding5964 2 года назад
@@nicosonic Thus the Deluxe.
@armandomorenotherevival7827
@armandomorenotherevival7827 2 года назад
I got rid my be100 od and for a dirty Shirley and I like it much better . Still has lots of gain so I have the rear trim pot at 11 o’clock
@lexdarocy
@lexdarocy 2 года назад
Agree 100%
@chuckjcarter
@chuckjcarter 2 года назад
Brian Wampler killed it with the Gearbox. What a great, dynamic pedal!
@HerdingDogRescuer
@HerdingDogRescuer 2 года назад
Just bought one. Hopefully it lives up to the hype.
@andywoodmusic
@andywoodmusic 2 года назад
@@HerdingDogRescuer it will 😎
@andywoodmusic
@andywoodmusic 2 года назад
🏁
@mdmusic2130
@mdmusic2130 2 года назад
I agree with you, it’s such a fantastic versatile overdrive for any guitarist! Killer tones for days!🔥🤟🏻🎸
@bcrocks3935
@bcrocks3935 Год назад
I went digital with a gx-100, but my Gearbox and Fuzztration still live in its fx loop. I couldn’t bear to part with them
@TheGhostGuitars
@TheGhostGuitars Год назад
The Metal Zone is an extremely versatile pedal, however it will require time to finesse it into what you want. It's biggest strength is it's ability to provide nearly any tone desired. The biggest weakness is the huge learning curve required to getting the most out of it. Oh and the incredibly sensitive controls, even the teeny tiniest nudge on the controls can result in a huge shift in the tones gotten. Here patience and finesse is required to maximize the gains from this pedal (pun intended).
@chapter_black3234
@chapter_black3234 Год назад
Boss pretty well fixed the sensitivity on the Waza version, but you have to switch modes...which they didn't do, but perhaps they thought that wouldn't make much of a difference. I really would like to find that sharp biting metallic tone that Ola pulled from the Metal Zone when first trying to run it through the effects loop
@Durkhead
@Durkhead Год назад
​@@chapter_black3234 if you don't have an effects loop an equalizer works pretty good I think it boss 7 band
@wowdaster
@wowdaster Год назад
Ola Englund put the Metal Zone through the fx loop and its a massive improvement
@seandonnan3824
@seandonnan3824 8 месяцев назад
Boss metal zone waza craft
@bluepedalsrock9271
@bluepedalsrock9271 7 месяцев назад
12:05 is all one needs to know about the Boss Metal Zone.
@theorc9098
@theorc9098 2 года назад
I use the G3 on my board. Yes, it is very tight, but the EQ is so powerful that you can dial in some amazing tones on it. I absolutely love it.
@PooNinja
@PooNinja 2 года назад
REVV Rules
@happycadaver
@happycadaver 2 года назад
Same. I've had the G3 on my board for about a year now and it's definitely a main stay. Love that thing
@willbradley7342
@willbradley7342 2 года назад
What amp do you run through
@PartyChicken407
@PartyChicken407 2 года назад
@@willbradley7342 - mine sounds good wether it’s into a Mesa dual recto input or FX loop, peavey bandit 112, even a computer interface with a clean amp sim. Even works amazing as a bass distortion.
@theorc9098
@theorc9098 2 года назад
@@willbradley7342 Blackstar HT stage 60 MT or a Marshall TSL 122
@Ryan_Q3L
@Ryan_Q3L 2 года назад
The BE-OD Deluxe is where it's at. The internal trim pots, mids, and presence capabilities really make it a stand out gain pedal-a dual channel gain pedal!
Год назад
Oh yeah, amen to that!
@ashthegreat1
@ashthegreat1 Год назад
+1 - Ive owned 4 or the 6 pedals reviewed. None of them have the dynamics and sizzle of the BEOD. BEOD also awesome for soloing tone.
@TheDankCat127
@TheDankCat127 2 года назад
The Metal Zone is super versatile. With the powerful EQ controls you can dial in virtually limitless tones that all sound like shit.
@exp-eri-mental
@exp-eri-mental 2 месяца назад
Not the beeeees
@rferguson3
@rferguson3 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@supafrogg258
@supafrogg258 Год назад
Nicely done demo, guys! You were efficient in your coverage of each pedal. I really liked the JHS AT Drive, the Wampler Gearbox, & the MXR EVH Overdrive!
@FrancoisCantine
@FrancoisCantine 2 года назад
That would have been nice to hear the Metal Zone with the costum switch on. The new mode is way more usable.
@karykane6038
@karykane6038 2 года назад
They could have tried to make the swedish death metal tones too 🤘
@grumpyrocker
@grumpyrocker 2 года назад
I own the EVH 5150 Overdrive and I love it. I tried the Friedman, but much preferred the EVH, and the noise gate is a big and much-needed bonus. I also have a Boss OD-200 which is good for metal tones too thanks to its boost options and noise gate.
@HiredGoonage
@HiredGoonage 2 года назад
And I'm the opposite. The BE-OD for me was godly. I wanted the EVH to sound great but I couldn't dial the fizz out of it.
@eskilseter
@eskilseter 2 года назад
These are all great, but the 5150 is *stellar*. It also sounds great going into anything, while some others are more picky about what amp you use.
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio 2 года назад
The Metal Zone needs to be pushed into the FX loops... crazy tone when you do!
@dewanebryant2616
@dewanebryant2616 2 года назад
Great video gentlemen! Two of my favorite content/guitar creators in one spot! I love the 5150.
@dannyllerenatv8635
@dannyllerenatv8635 2 года назад
The JCM 800 on the low side is indeed a great choice. Amp distortion overall is the best distortion, I owned a JVM410 for many many years, and even a few rectos. However, a high headroom amp(such as a JCM 800 or a Super Reverb which is what I now own) getting slammed by a pedal is also quite its own experience. Pedals are also simply put convenient. I also happen to love amps such as the Two Rock Traditional Clean and Bloomfield Drive just as much as I love a Soldano SLO 100.
@adamstein9333
@adamstein9333 6 месяцев назад
Over the Dual and Triple Recs?
@glaucosouza1971
@glaucosouza1971 2 года назад
Man, gotta love the videos that those guys make together. Always funny, informative and a joy to watch. Nice!!
@emartinezr
@emartinezr 9 месяцев назад
I liked the EVH and the G3. Both are brutal and delicious.
@PooNinja
@PooNinja 2 года назад
REVV Rules & MT-2 for life!!🤘🏽
@gloconti
@gloconti 2 года назад
I think that the MT-2 shines with super low tunings. It’s SO tight that it helps to keep everything in place and deletes flub. The parametric and gain is just so easy to over do… Think Crowbar!
@drcockles
@drcockles 2 года назад
I recently got into Andy Timmons after he was on That Pedal Show, I got the Halo delay then the AT+. The AT has instant gratification, great rock tones. I love my G3 and the Boss too. I have about 20 dirt pedals, I’m an addict. Great job guys cheers 🤘🏼
@TVoltG
@TVoltG 2 года назад
That EVH is damn good. I think I need one.
@DTension
@DTension 2 года назад
Gearbox is my gig sound. Stacked and both sides alone. Versatile af. Love it.
@garyshelly6555
@garyshelly6555 2 года назад
I've been using a metal zone since 1995 lol, I've tried many many pedals over the years and always come back to the metal zone. Currently I'm just using it as a front boost, with the distortion all the way off. It sounds pretty killer in front of my crate bv 120, tunings at d standard with active pickups it slays.
@basskirkster
@basskirkster 2 года назад
Metal Zone…Swedish Metal at its finest. Used to run one into a Femder M-80 half stack. Classic
@BenEller
@BenEller 2 года назад
‘Member when we mashed on the dirty boxes?
@jmerrill72
@jmerrill72 Месяц назад
I member!
@oldmanriff7633
@oldmanriff7633 2 года назад
At work (I'm a teacher) I have a 5150 OD into the clean channel of an Orange Crush 35RT. Sounds great & easy to lug around. The gate is a big plus. And yeah, it's absolutely a distortion pedal, NOT an overdrive, but ain't nobody arguing with Ed. I'm a child of the 80s, not the 90s, so I don't have a DOD Grunge pedal, but I *do* have a DOD THRASH MASTER! It says "thrash" so it's thrash, but it's also hot pink, so it's hair metal, too! I had that going into some little Yamaha practice combo. I cannot imagine the sizzle I was getting.
@DretRon-q6u
@DretRon-q6u 5 дней назад
Ну и как она злее будет чем например Digitech Death Metal
@RickGuitarist94
@RickGuitarist94 2 года назад
You guys are living the dream hanging out at Sweetwater all the time. One day, I'll make my pilgrimage there lol
@WilliamHaisch
@WilliamHaisch 2 года назад
Thank you for trolling us with the “clean tone” statements. I had a good laugh at that. 😂
@wheresallthezombies
@wheresallthezombies 2 года назад
Pedal distortion into an amp is fun. I just look at pedal distortion and amp distortion as two different things. I like both and see them as tonal options. It’s REALLY fun to set up an amp to be overdriven and then stack a distortion pedal on top of that. So you can get a mix of the two. Really great of you’re looking for something more unique.
@evolman123
@evolman123 Год назад
If you want to try something unique, stick a fuzz pedal or other type of dirt box in the loop of a dirty amp -- running amp distortion into a dirt pedal can be crazy fun.
@jamesp7709
@jamesp7709 2 года назад
I am a pedal junkie and I have found the 5150 overdrive (distortion) to be the tastiest, and I have them in all my pedal chains (studio, living room, music room etc). It works super well at lower gain settings with an Xotic Soul Driven pedal, also on low gain settings, in front of it. Instant Van Halen tone, or any choice of 80s hair metal.
@vincentharless1952
@vincentharless1952 Год назад
Revv g3 for the win boys! Thanks for making the video
@DadRockAndGuitars
@DadRockAndGuitars 2 года назад
Several of my friends had the Grunge pedal. That is THE REASON I stayed away from pedals for a very long time! That JHS AT+ sounded killer. May have to look into that one some more!
@timgoodman5429
@timgoodman5429 2 года назад
MXR 5150 is my favorite! Another great Wampler pedal is Pinnacle Deluxe V2. I A/B’d those beside each other and they each have something special going on. 5150 is awesome for thicker high gain and Pinnacle is more open for classic/hair metal tones.
@metalonabudget574
@metalonabudget574 2 года назад
I have the EvH and its hands down the best distortion in my opinion iv owned also sounds amazing with a 1978 l7 lab series half stacks killer tone.
@vethwynwetfeather
@vethwynwetfeather 2 года назад
Thank you UNC for bringing the GRUNGE!!!🤘
@8KilgoreTrout4
@8KilgoreTrout4 2 года назад
I LOVE waking up to this!!! hmmmm do I drink another coffee.. choices choices
@susancorgi
@susancorgi 2 года назад
Wow very useful vid for distortion pedals, pls do more pedals 🙏🙏🙏
@rocesboyanthony5343
@rocesboyanthony5343 2 года назад
I’m fortunate enough to own a revv 3 and I absolutely love the crap out of it. Doesn’t leave my pedal board
@JohnnyOskam
@JohnnyOskam 2 года назад
I’ve tried all these pedals. The Revv, Friedman and 5150 are all great. But the 5150 takes the cake. It feels the best. And has a built in gate. Amazing pedal 😎🤘🏼
@giovanigiorgos2955
@giovanigiorgos2955 Год назад
Will the 5150 use a 9 volt as a power source or do you need a 9-Volt AC adapter?
@wesd3370
@wesd3370 Год назад
I feel like the way to get a metal zone working for you is to set the bass and treble to somewhere that sounds reasonable, then boost the mids and use the sweep to find the frequency boost that sounds good... then go back to the bass and treble and fine tune.
@roberttaylor-branco3217
@roberttaylor-branco3217 Год назад
The Metal Zone needs to go through the effects loops. It has its own preamp in it. It sounds very different and great through the effects loop!!
@Bilsuburbians
@Bilsuburbians 2 года назад
Metal zone for life 🔥🔥🔥 But remember , put it in the fx loop send return 😂👌
@Barrsie
@Barrsie 2 года назад
I think Ola Englund did a video illustrating exactly that fact. It actually sounded amazing going through the back of the amp rather than in front
@Bilsuburbians
@Bilsuburbians 2 года назад
@@Barrsie yes. A few years back i think
@TheGhostGuitars
@TheGhostGuitars Год назад
I agree, the Metal Zone is a powerful pedal ...once it's adjusted correctly AND in the FX loop. I still have my MZ on my pedal board and on my amp's FX loop.
@dmac3316
@dmac3316 2 года назад
Another great vid guys, thanks! I’ve got the Revv but now want to try the Timmons and Gearbox. I’ve always thought about the EVH also but never gave it a go. Hmmm decisions decisions lol
@johnfinlay4963
@johnfinlay4963 3 месяца назад
Fantastic guys . That EVH really sounded killer . Might have to go get one now🤘🏻
@thememoriesrising
@thememoriesrising 2 года назад
The metal zone excels when plugged into return section of effect loop bypassing the pre amp section,
@TJVallee
@TJVallee Год назад
I just love the metal zone. it is a classic and sounds awesome when used with the right setup.
@ERWebster
@ERWebster 2 года назад
Correct way to dial in a Metal Zone: Distortion at 9 o'clock, all EQ at noon, level at whatever makes sense for your setup. Now, max out the mids control, and while strumming sweep the mid-Q across the frequencies until you find that nasty nasally frequency. Now, turn the mids control almost off, cutting that frequency out. Adjust treble, bass, and gain to taste. You can also run it directly into the input of your FX loop (guitar -> pedal -> FX loop input), bypassing your amps built-in pre-amp and using the pedal as a pre-amp. This works pretty well for a lot of different distortion pedals, and opens up some new tonal possibilities.
@lw1391
@lw1391 11 месяцев назад
Haha. Uncle Ben sneaking in some Loverboy, right after some hints of Limelight by Rush @7:00 Good man!
@raven5679
@raven5679 2 года назад
Ah yes, a video featuring my two favorite internet Guitar Dad figures. This’ll be a fun one !
@PaulMatthewMusic1
@PaulMatthewMusic1 2 года назад
That’s an actual real clean 🧼 tone
@cricketguitar6782
@cricketguitar6782 2 месяца назад
19:58 givin’ up from the Darkness riff ❤
@TavaresProject
@TavaresProject 2 года назад
JHS for my tastes.. I may pick one up. You both did your jobs very well.
@Suspense1376
@Suspense1376 11 месяцев назад
Metal zone has the sickest chugs actually
@resington
@resington 2 года назад
Ah the sweet metalzone tones!
@wolfganghumboldt4830
@wolfganghumboldt4830 2 года назад
You know a piece of gear is good when you just suddenly start playing like a beast as Ben did with that JHS pedal
@micuronium
@micuronium Год назад
Those are all great pedals in their own right. Wow.
@PatrikWalzer-lt2qo
@PatrikWalzer-lt2qo 8 месяцев назад
I had the JHS AT+ and use now the MXR EVH 5150 with exact that configuration: Low Gain but boost. And it sounds great!
@MeTuLHeD
@MeTuLHeD 2 года назад
For metal tones, nothing beats the Amptweaker Tight Metal Pro and the Empress Heavy. Monster pedals.
@kleberkshima
@kleberkshima Год назад
MXR EVH 5150 is the winner for me!
@yunamadsimackomen881
@yunamadsimackomen881 Год назад
I’m into Swedish chainsaw tones so the Metal Zone is my best bud
@sicklinup
@sicklinup 7 месяцев назад
Perfect test, direct in the front of the amp. So it sounds like it sounds for 80% of All Amateur players. Thabks ging forqard with this style of videos
@NeverWillWeRest
@NeverWillWeRest 2 года назад
Leave the level on the metalzone at half way, bringing that up too much kills the headroom and begins to boost the amp which the metalzone is not designed for. My settings are High at 3 o clock, Low at noon, Mid just below noon, Mid freq at 10 o clock, Distortion at 1 o clock. I'm using it as a pre-amp going into an impulse response \m/
@GRINNERMETAL
@GRINNERMETAL 2 года назад
So funny! I am of that age too and yes, my first pedal was a Boss Metal Zone. I still have it! I also have a T-shirt too!
@leightnite3056
@leightnite3056 2 года назад
Yep, that red one gots the sound I'm lookin 4!
@joshuamessenger
@joshuamessenger 2 года назад
the Metal Zone "might be your choice, and there's nothing wrong with that." Fluff, don't lie to the people. lol
@RiffHarvester
@RiffHarvester 2 года назад
nice
@Marol2137
@Marol2137 2 года назад
nice
@tallciaran
@tallciaran 2 года назад
Nice
@jareddoran6605
@jareddoran6605 2 года назад
Nice
@themaggot8
@themaggot8 2 года назад
nice
@pwnsorter
@pwnsorter 2 года назад
Love my Amptweaker Tight Metal.
@jpgtr84
@jpgtr84 Год назад
Dude, I had an original DOD Grunge and Death Metal pedal back in the day. Man, that brings back some memories.
@scottstevens3345
@scottstevens3345 2 года назад
The JHS would be my favorite. More amp like than the Friedman or EVH. Definitely a JCM800 in a box.
@stink-a-lynx6571
@stink-a-lynx6571 2 года назад
this long haired guy has super guitar store employee energy
@MetalZoned
@MetalZoned 2 года назад
I wish guitar store employees were like him
@BenEller
@BenEller 2 года назад
Hahahaha
@metalsquid
@metalsquid 2 года назад
My man really just played Loverboy with distortion.
@BenEller
@BenEller 2 года назад
;)
@TheDistortionPrinciple
@TheDistortionPrinciple 2 года назад
Use the metal zone like a boost and get the municipal waste tone
@dfhomemadestudio
@dfhomemadestudio 4 месяца назад
You are great guys
@lukeroush905
@lukeroush905 2 года назад
Please check out the Boss Metal Core pedal. It sounds better than the metal zone, i would love to hear it in one of your mix's.
@thehoppo
@thehoppo 2 года назад
Riffs Ben & Gear
@bestregardsband6912
@bestregardsband6912 21 день назад
I use the Gearbox as my main overdrive sound. Both channels on boosted by Voodoolabs Giggity pedal for leads. Add the Xotic EP Booster at the end of the chain 😊
@2015IeepWranglerJK
@2015IeepWranglerJK 2 года назад
EVH for me!
@scottrockit7680
@scottrockit7680 2 года назад
The Grunge Pedal!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 JHS sounded amazing!
@Staticgrooms
@Staticgrooms 2 года назад
Fluff is ridiculously good at quickly dialing in an awesome sound.
@jcassler1969
@jcassler1969 2 года назад
Been using the 5150 for years. love it. Eventually I decided I needed something more similar to a Marshall. I went with the JHS Sweet Tea, which is fairly similar to the Andy Timmons pedal you have in the video. Such a great pedal, pretty underrated imo; very versatile gain, not too much high end, and it feels very amp-like. Definitely recommend both pedals!
@scottdavidson6066
@scottdavidson6066 2 года назад
The pedal I’ve most used is a Boss DS-1 distortion (they’re orange). Great pedal for breakup rock tones. More classic than metal, though.
@briansnc2008
@briansnc2008 2 года назад
I hate to divulge my secret sauce, but the Rocktron Silver Dragon is pretty sweet. I buy them when I can because they aren’t in use anymore
@linusheeda
@linusheeda 2 года назад
In my opinion the MXR EVH sounds the best, but the JHS also sounds very interesting 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@raoulbrandon4150
@raoulbrandon4150 Год назад
I would have loved to hear a ZVex Box of Metal in that comparison...
@thisdyingsoul76
@thisdyingsoul76 3 месяца назад
I can remember an interview in the 90's with Kim Thaiyil from Soundgarden. Whe asked about his opinion of the DOD Grunge pedal he said "OH GOD! Is that what people think we sound like?" He then went on to explain how they all went out and bought one and jammed with them and laughed about how bad it sounded. 😂
@jonholland6067
@jonholland6067 2 года назад
A be od and lover boy that’s hilarious
@johnfinlay4963
@johnfinlay4963 2 месяца назад
Loved the 5150🤘🏻
@charliesullivan1886
@charliesullivan1886 2 месяца назад
number one for me is theJHS at plus. two is the EVH 5150 then the Wampler gearbox
@smeemusic
@smeemusic 2 года назад
The evh 5150 lead to me purchasing the 100 watt el34 evh head. Absolutely love it. Gotta get that revv tho. That metal zone belongs in the fx loop. It literally sounds like a beast of a high gain preamp in the fx loop
@smeemusic
@smeemusic 2 года назад
Hey! That grunge pedal is my middle school years. And yes you're right, they were issued to all of us. Lmfao. Its like no matter where I went there was 4 of those things just laying around. And lets not forget the dod death metal distortion. Wanna talk about a jar of bees? Let's talk about the OG jar of beez
@mgammill
@mgammill 2 года назад
Glad to see my woodshed heroes being represented : ) AT and AW and REVV : )
@stephenchow5161
@stephenchow5161 2 года назад
duran duran reference. wild boys
@stevenkenny6586
@stevenkenny6586 2 года назад
Good video! I would have preferred to see/hear the pedals through the fx loop though.
@ogrish76
@ogrish76 23 дня назад
11:14 Yup, 1992, Peavey Bandit, a MZ, and a Cherry Lane Metallica Ride The Lightning guitar songbook, and hrs in my bedroom lol.
@jeremyptashnyk9545
@jeremyptashnyk9545 2 года назад
Didn’t think I’d hear anyone else play Humans Being!
@dirkdiggler5902
@dirkdiggler5902 2 года назад
The Waza Metal Zone is a great pedal!
@roberttaylor-branco3217
@roberttaylor-branco3217 Год назад
The metal zone has its own preamp and is meant to be played through the effects loop. Once you do this the bees will disappear and you will discover it is actually one of the best distortion pedals you’ve used or heard. Unfortunately, you (as with everyone else) have plugged it in wrong, through which you continue to give it a bad wrap. Plug it in the right way it’s an f‘n great pedal!
@pressleycaliforniacustoms9526
@pressleycaliforniacustoms9526 2 года назад
Amazing chemistry together. Entertaining
@cookeatstp
@cookeatstp Месяц назад
My Empress Heavy Menace just told me it was full because it ate all of these pedals for breakfast. 😎👍
@shannonwiseman2790
@shannonwiseman2790 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the video, as a lead singer I should have took the guitar more seriously years ago. Currently running an HM-2w doubled with a TS 808 through a '71 Silverface twin. Not a huge fan of the Swedish style tone of the Heavy Metal or the smooth tone of the TS but really like WAZA CRAFT pedals so I may try out the Metal zone. However that EVH is killer!
@armandomorenotherevival7827
@armandomorenotherevival7827 2 года назад
The jhs andy timmons is on my next pedal buy. The headroom push even from iPhone speakers seemed to jump out the most compared to the others
@LeStraTele
@LeStraTele 10 месяцев назад
They all sound pretty good. The EVH is the one that sounds they way I like to play. The JHS just went onto my wish list.
@doctoribanez
@doctoribanez 2 года назад
I like the 5150 because the added gate but I'm more of a mindless chug guy
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