I was watching the Ammanford one like "aye, right... sounds like this guy's off his rocker" until his neighbour was arrested. Like, that's some coincidence!
I thought the same thing, but my mind went right back to this after the whole "tunneling Jews of New York" thing came out. Imagine trying to explain that without sounding crazy. But it turned out to be true.
I remember reading a post about a guy being stalked by an airplane (he lived right by the airport, and the plane was a cessna 172 practicing touch and GOs at the airport)
Thats called a psychosis. They rather think aliens cloned their entire village and dropped their lifeless bodies everywhere to reactivate when they see you going somewhere than the possibilty to run into another person a second time by accident
As a Welshie the first case has really, really stuck with me. Coal mines are pretty interesting. In Wales, depending on where you grow up, a very common school trip you can go on often will have you literally going down these old mines with a tour guide. They’re so eerie, they’re cold, windy, dark and dangerous. The wind howls through them and it does sound incredibly haunting. Rocks also love to fall so if you’re not wearing a hard miners hat you’re going to get brained.
This sounds horrific, wtf 😭the first case is also stuck in my head and if theyre that accessible as u say i 100% believe there could be some shit goin on and its wild 2 me that the mans claims are being blown off as insufficient,, like yall hear that? on recording? and it doesnt ring any alarms?
@@Caspians_Corner oh fr it’s incredibly creepy!! also it’s funny because going down the mines with a tour guide is surprisingly very zen! As long as you’re bundled up warm it’s not as scary as it sounds. The routes the tour guides take you are pretty wide and well lit thanks to everyone’s headlamps. Something they always do during the tour is to tell everyone to turn their lamps off for a few seconds just so you can see how dark it is. It’s absolutely mad tbh, it’s the darkest place I’ve ever been. As long as you’re not overly claustrophobic the experience isn’t scary at all. It’s a really great way to learn about how a lot the countries old working class and poor families would make their living. It’s such a dangerous and labour intensive job but it was very popular at the time. When the coal mines shut down it caused a major issue in Wales and parts of England as people’s livelihoods were cut off. The history behind it all is very fascinating! While most of the mines that have been abandoned aren’t open to the public like the ones that provide tours do, just like the French catacombs it wouldn’t surprise me if those old tunnels were being trespassed on. Usually to get down the mine you use a lift but again, people will just find ways around it and it’s not as if every single old mine opening is being guarded 24/7. It would be incredibly dangerous to go down there without someone who knows the tunnel systems, there are so many branching paths that it’s easy to get lost. As much as I love visiting the old coal mines I wouldn’t EVER go down there without a tour guide lmao.
back again to say, look into how delusional disorders effect people and how one delusional person can effect another, changing their specific delusion or even sometimes triggering the delusions to start in the first place. That's how and why gangstalking works, and likely why the ammanford case exists as well.
While not using the exact terminology, my grandfather is convinced that a police officer and her goonies are constantly watching him, she allegedly pays off all his neighbors to watch him too. If anything negative happens to him, he claims it’s the police officer. He’s also diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, so, yeah
@@joshcantrell8397 okay okay 😆😆😅 its probably just my wild imagination running rampant anyway, after catching wind of so many rogue projects/operations, black budgeted projects, government cover ups & police brutality.
One sad thing about the gang stalking delusions is that, even if authorities or family/friends tried to help "expose" the supposed surveillance in an attempt to either help dispel the delusions or actually ensure their loved one's safety, *everyone* is untrustworthy regardless of what they do.
I don’t know if this in anyways help but I work as an over-the-phone Vietnamese interpreter and let me tell you that this isn’t a far-fetched conspiracy theory. Within my job, we have clients from all over the world (USA, Canada, the UK, Ireland). Something that is known within this line of work is that if you work day shift there would be a lot (-and I mean a lot) of human trafficking calls from the UK specifically. Mostly detectives interviewing victims of human trafficking. It’s….an incredibly fucked up fact and a quite disturbing call to sit through. A lot of these victims are either illegal immigrants (you can reference the Essex lorry deaths) or they were just literally kidnapped for different reasons (most popular being cannabis cultivation). In terms of my own experience with this I have served several calls helping Vietnamese victims of human trafficking and they almost always have the same stories. They were lured in by some random people with job offers and they would then be bought to the middle of nowhere, blindfolded, held at gun point and then forced to a house to do whatever those traffickers want them to do. Mine are mostly for cannabis cultivation. The victims would get sick at some point and then the traffickers will just drop them off at a random location in the UK and that’s it. There would be actual hotels around the UK dedicated to housing traffickers victims just so you know the sheer prominence of this problem. Not a lot of news talk about this within my country specifically or in the UK as a matter of fact. I am still lucky (-ironically enough) that I have not had to serve calls from victims of sex human trafficking but believe there is a handful of that. And it is not just a problem happening to only Vietnamese. My Cantonese and Mandarin-speaking colleagues have served calls of this nature as well and it seems to be a really rampant yet not-talked-about problem happening specifically to the UK. I am honestly heartbroken just thinking about helpless it is to go to a foreign country, not speaking their language, in the hopes of making a living for your family, just so you wound up being physically, mentally and sexually tortured by these monsters. It’s one of the harder moments of this job for sure and just one more reason to dwindle your faith in humanity.
From what I've read, trafficking is temporary. Maybe that's why people don't take it very seriously? Because the "trafficked" person seems to go on in life and never be bugged about it later - almost as if it was a necessary step to move up the ladder in life so to speak.
Thank you for sharing this disturbing truth. I can’t imagine how it must feel to be in the middle of these investigations, hearing about the horrors that people can enact on others. I’m sure your interpretation work has helped many of these people.
I like the little pauses you took throughout your video between stories and things. Some people might not like this but it lets you just process what you just heard with the cool atmospheric music at the same time.
i think alan was to quick to assume, he clearly just dug to the other side of the world, jokes aside i would have probably came to a similar conclusion if i was hearing sounds like that under my basement
It just sounds like equipment and people working in a mine tunnel, heard through rock. They're probably doing safety upgrades to keep the town from collapsing, could be a serious problem they don't want the home owners to know and could be keeping it hush. That's the most sensible conclusion in my head. I've Worked in a mine, definitely sounds pretty haunting coming out of the tunnels , that would drive a couple to insanity if you had to hear it going for weeks on end.
I'd assume foxes but that's only because I learned how human their screams sound. Before that, I thought some awful sht was happening in the woods around the local reservoir at night. If anyone has heard screaming like that at night and isn't sure, watch some videos of foxes screaming. It's weirdly comforting to know what they sound like. If there are no words you can make out and it's nighttime there's a fair chance it's foxes as they're primarily nocturnal.
The gangstalking segment is tough to watch. My mom was schizoid effective and suffered from some version of that delusion. It would be a hellish thing to be in the throes of it and believe you're being targeted, but it's a very awful sort of pain to be on the other side of it and be told that you are in on that torment, or see your grandmother be verbally or physically abused because of some supposed agreement she made with the government to subject her daughter to a lifetime of torture. At least in the case of my mom, I always felt like these ideas were convenient to her, in the sense that they absolved her of any responsibility for the state of her life, since she believed it was all outside of her control. After many, many years of ups, downs and treatment, she let most of this go - though she still maintained that she went through something unexplainable for most of her life. But from my perspective, that was a way for her to tell herself that she wasn't "crazy," and I couldn't help but resent her for not acknowledging completely that she had a problem. It's hard being the child of a parent with mental illness. I hope for the sake of the people around those who struggle with this that rational thought can break through, and they'll turn to care, instead of anger and delusion.
I heard that people who are truly crazy can’t conceive they aren’t crazy. Like if you can imagine the possibility that you might be crazy, then it’s a good chance you’re not actually crazy. Hopefully that makes sense…
The scariest/saddest part about the gangstalking bit is just that most of these people that think they're being targeted are probably just experiencing mental health issues and refuse to seek treatment because they won't be "believed" by medical professionals or the authorities
My ex-partner thought she was a "targeted individual" we split up over it. She had lost her daughter over believing it before we had met. Anywhere we went she would point out or suggest that certain people were out to get her. I had never heard of it before but thought it was absolutely crazy (which it is) Only now looking back at my relationship with her I consider myself lucky that I didn't get dragged into her web of made up rubbish. As others have said it's a clear sign of psychosis i.e. people who think that others are conspiring against them or are "out to get them".
As a studying psychologist, gangstalking is almost always just a mental health issue. Esp the color coordination evidence just seems to be a false attribution.
That gangstalking case in San Diego, (if I remember correctly) that involved the cops, and the targeted individual ended up dead was one of the cases that opened my eyes to this phenomenon.
The gangstalking one is the scariest because it's most likely just schizophrenia and mass delusion, but I could see myself falling down this rabbithole relatively easily. I am part of a population at-risk for schizophrenia so I will keep a close eye on any unwarranted paranoia I think.
As a victim of bullying, and covert sexual harassment, and victim of rumors, gang stalking kinda seems like paranoia, tho, I was labelled delusional by Indian daacatars, for sharing about the physical evidences I see or the way people behave as in being rude, or kinda covertly sexually harassing me, but the gang stalking makes lesser sense. But my trauma manifests itself as hypervigilance where I am always vigilant around certain people associated with my trauma.
19:20 i had a friend that was telling me that she was being followed and stuff but unfortunately she was delusional bcs i spent the most time with her, and there was literally no one around And i tried to tell her that she needs help and i can't help her bcs im not a psychiatrist it was truly heartbreaking bcs my own mental health is pretty bad too
Either that or being kept watch by FBI, CIA and other 3 letter agencies all over the globe. Usually though, that'd require you being either involved in criminal activity, being a political dissident, knowing a bit too much about certain powerful or wealthy people, having had/done some very suspicious behavior, searches or acquisitions, or being someone with considerable power, wealth or/and fame. Or in other words, something rare, the vast majority being just cases of mental illness, but certainly very much real.
@@Eli_JK in new York were discovered tunnels under a synagogue and there were clips of the tunnels were you can see a baby stroller and a stained mattress and people online believe it was a blood stain, also residents of the area reported hearing strange noise and construction from under their houses, people believe they were used for human trafficking however you can look more into it yourself
@@Eli_JK People reported hearing people speaking underground in Yiddish. They reported it to police were told they were crazy so went on social media to report it, people canceled them calling the antisemites and worse. Turns out they were correct, a Jewish sect in New York were building a massive tunnel network under the city linking up notable places of their residences and places of worship.
British houses are often very poorly insulated or not insulated at all, my first thought would be that neighbors are causing these noises through televisions. Uninsulated pipework can also transmit noise, possibly explaining the noise in the basement. To me, the audio recordings somehow sound like movies, generally television, but I haven't looked into it that closely. Although I have to say that the alternative, as crazy as it is, would be surprising if something real were to happen underground. But when I think about it, there are so many things that come to mind, why it's nonsense, why no one else notices, the logistics, mine shafts are never under houses, firearms in the UK, why no one goes to check...
i am really enjoying the video but I do believe it's quite harmful to speak about gang stalking this way, especially not acknowledging it being caused mostly by mental illness until the end of the segment. as someone who struggles with paranoia and symptoms similar to those who believe they are being gangstalked, i do feel that some of this affirms those thoughts to certain extent. it is a very interesting topic but more often than not, it is a symptom of extreme paranoia and i do think its best to remember that and the people who struggle with those thoughts when speaking about gangstalking very literally. Still love the video!
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Allan has enough evidence to at least initiate an investigation. Which should start primarily confirming the noises by authorities from his property. If there is indeed noises its time to go down in those mines to check whats going on there. Regarding some of the gangstalking criteria, the lamp post switching on is well known harmless occurrence, the wires for the lamposts run underground, I've seen quite a few that would turn on when you walk on a certain spot. Super weird but most can replicated reliably. There was one near my home where I grew up. a Friend told me about it, so everytime walking past that lamp post it would switch on when walking on a certain spot. There's another one near where I live, everything is within walking distance. Sometimes walking to the shop late at night the lamp post would switch on when walking near it. It's quite a common occurrence. It did however make me paranoid if the wire below ground is exposed and rain would feel very sketchy when walking past it due to risk of being shocked. I'm not a lamp post technician and havent heard that happen to anyone, might just be loose connected wires below ground. Funny enough some of the earliest examples we have of schizophrenia, people in the renaissance who wrote down diagrams of what the believe people are using remote auditory technology to put voices in their heads. Which funny enough was describing exactly what some of these people are describing.
People concerned with gangstalking are suffering from mental illness. It’s not a real thing. Using it as a spooky ‘rabbit hole’ mystery is negligent. You’re validating ideas that are both untrue and doing genuine harm to vulnerable people and their families. Please consider amending this video so that you start with the disclaimer that this is not a real situation instead of ending with that
The term Gangstalking itself defines it Go google search the definition of it The crime is a scheme funded by organized crime and corrupted officials. Why do the majority of victims have similar experiences? Seems like the perpetrators like using the same tactics everytime Similar stalking tactics they use on human trafficking victims as well. You're just an hired agent here to discredit this program You probably also never did true research on the topic Please don't reply to my message Your obviously not here to support a good cause Peace & God Bless
As a person who spent a few months in an I patient mental facility for having the big sad, someone else there had this delusion. It’s insane how common this specific delusion is. And I feel bad because even when it’s not real, the pain is real to them. And when the guy I knew wasn’t being concerning, he was just a polite sweet dude
@@mohammeddmalik 😂 and then I married a Brit who's dad spoke to me in cockney rhyming slang..."I'll pick up the old dog and bone" ..which supposedly means phone .. and his mother was Scottish. Now, with Scots, I need a translator lol
The problem with paranoid delusions like gang stalking is that they are persistent even in the face of evidence. If you can talk someone out of a delusion, it's not a delusion, just a false belief.
Wouldn't be surpised that the Amford story is legitimate, especially after the multiple nail salons being brought up. For those that don't know - nail salons are often used solely as fronts as workers in there many times could be trafficked.
I wonder if someone managed to dug the hole that had the screams recorded when it comes to that Ammanford case, or entering in one of those drainers like it was some big sinkhole, just to see what was really going on beneath the surface literally.
Theres this guy in SF who was claiming he was being gangstalked by local police for constantly calling them out. He actually proved someone was doing what he said was saying when he caught a van pulling up and filming his house with a TV camera. At some point his house burnt down and he stabbed himself 30 something times in what was ruled as a suicide. Trying to find his name, Ill make an edit if I find it. Edit: It was John Lang and it was 3 stab wounds to the chest and the house only caught on fire
How does one deal with someone who believes they're a targeted individual, or just generally delusional/schizophrenic? I mean you can't tell them its all in their head or try to logically explain to them how what they believe isn't real, because they won't believe you. Do you just "play along" with them or something?
I think paranoid schizophrenia is a little more complicated than that. I thought narcissism was more associated with “main character syndrome.” That said I do see your point
there is a really good video on the kitty litter one from the channel Tara A Devlin, an american who moved to Japan and covers Japanese side of the internet. She even provides a link to the source and also translates stuff on Japanese boards like 2chan or GoChan into english for viewers
I’m really glad that I’m not the only one who thinks the gang stalking stuff is just fueled by paranoia. Listening to the stories is scary but it just sounds like delusions and there being a public Reddit for people to share their delusions doesn’t help
lived with a guy i suspected had paranoid personality disorder. he was adamant that we were conspiring against him and placing mice in the house (very rodenty area). he one day sent me a list (in broken english) of all the people and things around him that he felt were messing with him.. very reminiscent of the gangstalking stuff. felt bad cuz it was very hard to communicate with him, him being an international student with very bad english. then he tossed out everyone's groceries and got evicted.
Ammanford is not in Gloucester. Gloucester is not in Wales but in England. Ammanford is near Swansea towards the coastline of Wales. You also completely butchered the word Gloucester. Did you even fact-check the first few seconds of your script? I usually adore your videos man but I come from Gloucestershire so hearing you fuck this whole section up in the first minute really made it hard for me to focus and even believe you did your research well enough to talk about the mystery. If you're feeling overworked to provide for us in the audience, please take your time because your videos are usually amazing but yeah, I can't watch this part because of how butchered it was. Sorry mate. Catch you next video.
The guy is a conspiracy theorist. Of course he can't get anything right. Gangstalking isn't happening yet he's talking as if it is anything but persecutory delusion or schizophrenia.
The majority of gang stalking cases are obvious cases of paranoid delusions, but there's one account of journalist who stumbled on a weird type of neighbourhood watch group, who took it upon themselves to shadow people they suspected as paedophiles, or who they otherwise thought dangerous to the community.
Anytime i get a feeling like im being watched, i start over acting like im the main character lol so i feel like if i ever thought i was being "gangstalked" id just be like"😘😜 yea eat it up babes"
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First story: As a former cannabis farm worker, those accommodations looked not bad at all. I’ve been dropped in the middle of the forest with a sack of groceries, no electricity, and took care of a massive grow op by myself for weeks. Conditions were far worse than what is pictured here.
the most disturbing thing that I have heard in the video was that you only get 5 years jailtime for trafficing and farming cannabis AND human trafficing / forced slavery
Welcome to England. Prison sentances are a joke, unless of course you're White British. Then they will throw the book at you. Sorry if this upsets anyone, but it is the truth.
@@SpeedwayGamingdon’t worry, if it was in America, they’d get 40 years for the weed, 5 years for the human trafficking, and their dog killed by the cops.
half the "stalking terms'' just sound like completely normal life things happening going through a filter of mental illness and paranoia, so sad i hope they all find peace of mind soon
Well, sort of, but not really. When they are actually real, as in being employed by a group, the idea is to be deniable but for the target to know it. So it's essentially increasing odd plausibly deniable events to where the target gets it, because they experienced it ten or twenty times this week, let's say for instance, a blue car blinking their lights three or four times, but to someone standing right next to them it just looks like some random event, and it will be more subtle of someone else is there, a blue car blinking their lights once. The manufacturing of paranoia in a non paranoic person, the target, has already began. It's a form of gaslighting done by groups. I was put in similar programs from having a wireless BCI put on my head at Camp Clark under US Army Cadre at a "Challenge program" who said "we're gonna do a little experiment", and then later on the command ship of the 6th Fleet, the USS LaSalle, when I was in the Marines, then had some "meetings" even later when I was in the Army (Challenge Program, Marines, then Army). This isn't the normal thing I think the real ones are encountering but it's similar and inherently designed to discredit the target. I SORT OF volunteered (not informed consent, always through deception). The thing about real gangstalking carried out by governments and organized crime is that it's methodology intentionally seeks to cause the target to seem mentally ill, and so therefore hopefully after a while actually induce mental ilness, this was clearly pointed out in the Stazi files on Zersetzung, and V2K is based on the 'Frey Effect'. Of course there are people with mental illness who are not actually going through targeting or gangstalking who think they are. It's sometimes even difficult for actual targets to discern who is an actual target, it is designed to be subtle and induce extra paranoia on top of what is really there, so to exacerbate the reality. In the military they have wireless BCIs that are placed on your head and an odd metal camera type thing that they'll "film" you with. There is a dossier and paperwork of I remember right. These ARE NOT normal technologies. The problem is that people talking about the rhe real thing online causes others who are ONLY suffering mental illness to think that that is what's happening when it's not, so they add alot of other stuff. With people who are actually being targeted it's intended to be subtle like gaslighting to cause a target to start feeling it's happening even when it no longer is. Causing it to mimic or instill mental illness is a primary cover.
@@packers12to80 Seriously. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, never really have been, although I am more aware now that somethings exist. Look up the date of when they knew about 'The Frey Effect'. I am not joking 2000: Show Me Challenge Program Camp Clark, Nevada Missouri 2001- 2008: USMC 0311/8152, US Army 25U.
This video really isn’t helping. This guy just said that people were disregarding the concerns of “targeted individuals” by trying to get them mental health treatment isn’t of addressing the [perceived] stalking. Like what the hell? This is exploitive as hell, and dangerous to feed into these delusions. Feels shameless
As a daughter of a "gangstalked" mother, it hurts, to see her not be like how she used to be, any time I make an effort to talk to her, she only make refernces of how "they" are "picking through the walls, or, swapping her clothes, turning off the fridge"... you're really speaking to the mental illness that now controls them, it really hurts because it feels like sometimes their not there anymore and you wonder where did they go. I want to be mad at her when I chat to her, or when watching a movie with her, and she tries SHOEHORN a situation/something that just happened to her today to a scene in a movie like, idk like Bullet Train or The Irishman that that is not even remotely related to her situation, just so she can mention it to me, even though I dont want to hear it, because I hear the same thing 50 times a day, everday, its all she ever talks about, and I try so hard to make her happy/not think about it for even just a split second because I dont like seeing her like this :( It sucks this situation, its like expierencing grief, and frustration at a invisible perpatraitor (that doesnt exist) ruining someone you know, you have not outlet for the frustration either, being mad at the her is unfair because I mean she didnt purposely want to be like this. She wont leave the house or do things she likes to do anymore because she thinks people are out to get her. I have told her, many times, she should see someone for these issues, maybe they can help, she doesn't listen. Arguments are even worse, because again I dont feel like its fair on her. She feels like shes not being heard & no one around her ''seems to care'' about issues like people spying on us because thats her version of reality, that is VERY real to her unfortauntly, but, how do you fix issues that dont exist, without "proving her right/solidfying her delisions even more?... She may say awful things to me out of anger in these arguments but I tell her, even after her saying those things, I still love her because she's my mum. She has fleeting moments she goes "back to normal" but they dont last long. I still hope she might get a little better if I keep trying to take her outside to take her to things but its very hard & tiring.
man. we gotta get rid of the idea that someone is "ruined" or "not themselves anymore" because of a mental illness. like bro that's still your mom, it's not a fucking pod person lol. and like, I Get It, because my parents are mad with conspiracy theories too- my mom for all of 2020-2021 wouldn't shut the fuck up about how covid was either made up completely or engineered by the government to cull the population. but shit, that's still cold lmao
@@ashandthecatsI don’t think that would work. Even if that were true (most of the time it’s not) it wouldn’t change anything. There’s nothing one person can say or do that can cure years of mental illness.
She really could benefit easily from medication. It's so sad to see that. I'm sorry you're going through this, and I hope someday she decides to see a doctor.
my best friend was targeted individual. he was on meth, swearing up and down he wasnt . he accused me of being in his bush at 5:30 am, i was on facetime with him. he’s no longer targeted because he doesnt do meth anymore.
I once started taking an anti-depressant that made me extremely paranoid. I went from barely bothering to lock my door, to checking closets and cupboards with a knife in my hand. I knew logically there couldn't be someone or something in there, and I was even aware that it was the meds making me paranoid, but it was still the only way I could ease my mind. It made me understand how people can develop and hold on to these delusions, and why logic goes out the window.
@@WinsaneI had this happen to me as well, only it was when i was getting off the antidepressants. I knew what I was thinking wasn’t true lol, but the thoughts consumed me. I can’t imagine living like that for any longer than I did, which was less than a few months.
I had a severe cocaine addiction that sent me in to paranoid delusions I would stare at my keyhole convinced someone was pacing around outside as just an example of many things and the thing is they did happen I saw it but now as times past I realise they were hallucinations truly terrifying at the time
Did you hear about the tunnel in the NYC synagogue recently? People were saying the exact same things about hearing foreign voices under their house and were called crazy
@@krishp1104that thread was fake, it doesn’t exist outside of screenshots afaict and the name of the account is literally a joke name. However the Hasidic Tunnels are real, unexplained, and very odd. As far as I know there’s no known connection to anything particularly nefarious beyond breaking property laws and building regulations. I’m looking forward to seeing what comes of it, but I really hope it doesn’t lead to antisemitism.
@@sanguillotine Oh it already has. Twitter and TikTok have been having a conspiracy nut, antisemitic field day with this development. And in hear on YT the antisemitic comments just roll right in on particular videos. Unfortunately, I expect nothing less. Hating Jews is one of those really old world wide past times that just never slowed it's roll. And they use the conspiracies as fodder for justifying it.
The more you look into the gangstalking stuff the sadder it gets. It's very clearly people suffering from mental illness. It makes me mad how often it's brought up in conspiracy theorist content where they treat it as tho it's really happening. We have a lot of mental illness in my family and feeding into people's delusions is the worst thing you could do for those people.
You don't understand the issue. It's designed for you to not see, and I am not bullshitting and did not believe in ANY "conspiracy" before I was part of such stuff. I was put in similar programs from having a wireless BCI put on my head at Camp Clark under US Army Cadre at a "Challenge program" who said "we're gonna do a little experiment", and then later on the command ship of the 6th Fleet, the USS LaSalle, when I was in the Marines, then had some "meetings" even later when I was in the Army (Challenge Program, Marines, then Army). This isn't the normal thing I think the real ones are encountering but it's similar and inherently designed to discredit the target. I SORT OF volunteered (not informed consent, always through deception). The thing about real gangstalking carried out by governments and organized crime is that it's methodology intentionally seeks to cause the target to seem mentally ill, and so therefore hopefully after a while actually induce mental ilness, this was clearly pointed out in the Stazi files on Zersetzung, and V2K is based on the 'Frey Effect'. Of course there are people with mental illness who are not actually going through targeting or gangstalking who think they are. It's sometimes even difficult for actual targets to discern who is an actual target, it is designed to be subtle and induce extra paranoia on top of what is really there, so to exacerbate the reality. In the military they have wireless BCIs that are placed on your head and an odd metal camera type thing that they'll "film" you with. There is a dossier and paperwork of I remember right. These ARE NOT normal technologies. It's seemingly research and training, training members to use the tech and skills and developing new techniques, before they use it on actual political enemies. The problem is that people talking about the the real thing (people being used as training and research subjects) online causes others who are ONLY suffering mental illness to think that that is what's happening when it's not, so they add alot of other stuff. With people who are actually being targeted it's intended to be subtle like gaslighting to cause a target to start feeling it's happening even when it no longer is. Causing it to mimic or instill mental illness is a primary cover.
It's because most conspiracy theorist content is full of other mentally ill people. There's a reason why the majority of theories involve people(usually government and such) lying to you. That's why so many theories are ridiculous and serves no purpose because it's more about the fact that "you're being lied to". I enjoy conspiracy content as entertainment but I wonder if these creators are aware of what they're contributing to.
Pshhh in the land of screaming eagles, that’s just a short drive 😉 lol but truly….I drive an hour to work and I feel like I’d cross 14 countries if I did that there!
the person living in a small village and freaking out about seeing the same people over and over- that's a small town, and the panic is a sign of mental illness
The scary thing about the "gang stalking" mental illness. Usually a form of schizophrenia is that its a self fulfilling disease. Its like the perfect fixation for someone who has this disease to have. Any attempt at help actually tends to make it worst. Working in mental health i can see how this idea can quickly spiral
‼️This is why Ernest Hemingway ended himself. He was a famous author in the early to mid 1900s. And mental illness ran in his family. But he had like a house in Cuba he had ties to cuba. And he believed his phone was being tapped and people were following him around and no one in his life believed him. Everyone told him dude you're mentally ill, you need help, the government isn't watching you or spying on you or following you around. And so he just started drinking more and more and more and he ended up ending himself because he believed he was going l.oc.o like he had seen happened to other members of his family. As it turned out the government released a bunch of documents about 10 years ago HEMINGWAY WAS RIGHT! THE GOVERNMENT WAS WATCHING HIM. It was during the Red scare and so they were watching him due to his ties to Communism and cuba. And in fact they had been watching him for a total of like 15 years. And they started watching him like 5 years before he even noticed. The government killed him. And even today most schools and stuff will teach you he ended himself because he was an alcoholic or because he was mentally ill. He is added to list of famous authors or artists with mental illness. List of geniuses with mental illness. And it makes me so mad. Hemingway wasn't mentally ill. He wasn't.
100% It also seams like a major lose-lose. If you refuse to agree with the person, and begin to distance yourself from them; they will instantly take it as proof of their gang stalking being real and simply being to much for you to handle. In their mind, this solidifies that it’s actually happening, because the person is so hung up on their delusion that they can’t see any reasoning for why anyone would need space from them, apart from the gang stalking.
It's really a sad and hopeless situation. I've seen it first hand. I think I was about the only person left that was still talking to him and he'd tell me about all these convoluted plots involving impossible technologies, multiple government agencies, hundreds of actors, including close friends and family as well as neighbors and complete strangers. I would always ask, "But why?" You know, what is the end goal? Sometimes it was to bankrupt him and foreclose on his property in some vast real estate scam. I just pointed out that the kind of money it would take to sustain a years long harassment campaign would far exceed the value of his house. We're talking drones, aircraft, helicopters, vans, directed energy attacks, hidden cameras, break-ins, not to mention all of the science fiction technology that he claimed they were employing. Ultimately, he thought it was simply to drive him crazy and maybe use him for their own nefarious means, like an assassination or something.
I have a relative like this. He just thinks you're gullible and dumb if you try to tell him the government/Illuminati/Satanists aren't trying to disrupt his life. There's a religious component to it, and he has literally said he sees himself as being on the same level as a saint, and that "bad" people in power hate him because of his saint-like status and that's why he's targeted. He also doesn't believe in mental illness in general... According to him, being depressed, anxious, schizophrenic, etc. is a result of people having demons inside them bc they just don't believe in God hard enough or something. So he'd just get really offended and deny it if anyone tried to tell him to "get help". He doesn't trust a lot of science and medical information and thinks it's made up by the evil organizations who want to control people. It's a rough situation since he wasn't always like this and has impressive talent/knowledge in a few areas, but it often gets overshadowed by the weird beliefs that he almost always brings up every conversation. He could be doing a lot with his life if he wasn't fixated and constantly getting angry about this stuff
The "screams" in Part 1 sounds much more like dogs in distress, to be honest. Some of it almost sounded mechanical. Also, 4 years ago the couple claimed their house was "haunted" in multiple published articles, so take it ALL with a grain of salt...if not a shaker-full.
I clearly haven't read the articles about the 'haunting', but I wonder if the same noises underground were what made them think it was haunted? I agree with you though, that I don't think those screams are from people. Whining machinery travelling through the ground can sound incredibly different than when you're standing right next to it. Someone in another comment said that it could be underground work keeping the tunnels maintained so that they don't collapse under the town, I saw another person say foxes getting in and screaming was also likely. I honestly think this is a case of xenophobia with a dash of limelight and mental illness. He lives next to a vietnamese nail salon, and there was all the press around the husband of the woman who used to own it (owns it?) being arrested for trafficking. I feel pretty confident that he sees those vietnamese nail techs every day, and he's totally comvinced that they're all being trafficked, too. Not to say it's impossible, but I don't think it's likely in this case. He probably had charges pressed by the salon owner for harassing her and her business. Also, something about those screams sounds... familiar? Not to say screams are usually very different, but they reminded me of stock sounds I'm pretty sure I've heard elsewhere. As another commenter pointed out, there aren't any words in them; usually when you're screaming for your life, you get discernable words like "no", "stop", and "help". Even if you don't speak the language, the word "no" is pretty global, and hearing anything like begging or crying would have also added to the authenticity. They remind me of scream tracks from halloween CDs.
They never claimed their house was haunted. The media spun those articles to discredit them. Alan has always refuted the “haunted” slant. He has always said the recordings are real people.
Yep. Those are foxes alright. I hear them around here, from time to time. I’ve even been caught off-guard and called the Police about it. Weird as shit that they’re underground, but not _that_ surprising. Foxes do like burrows, after all
Imagining gang, corporations, and governments doing shady shit isn't crazy to me, but not being able to trust your own family members because "they're in on it too" is genuinely when I started feeling concerned
Man, the gangstalking part first had me really hooked and then REALLY creeped out. At first I was waiting for the part where you say "Now, this might sound like it's all in their heads but this ONE guy..." But the further it went, the more I realized that not only are these people struggling with severe mental illness, but there's an online community on a VERY popular site, Reddit, that is actually feeding their delusions and actively discouraging its members to recommend getting actual psychological help. And when I looked the sub up, it's not even age restricted / NSFW (which would still be a weak barrier to entry but still). I don't know anyone personally who struggles with paranoid schizophrenia / psychosis but some of my friends and relatives do. One of the FIRST things that therapists recommend to those trying to support a person close to them who's suffering from these delusions is to offer a neutral point of view on the subject: confronting them about it doesn't usually help, unless done by a professional as part of treatment but the one rule is to NOT feed their delusions. Edit: this excerpt is from a recent post on the sub: "What is the point of continuing this life to be tortured with DEW, LRAD, and microwave weapons 24/7 while some POS tells you your a whore, ugly etc all day long [...] I am dying from the weapon effects. I am covered in burns. They think every single misfortune I have had in life is hysterical [...] I will miss my child and family but I can’t take this anymore. I have been targeted by intelligence and law enforcement since a little before 2001" This is just... so fucked.
It seems like there was one guy who was actually being gangstalked - a famous case of someone trying to expose corruption in a California police department. Unfortunately, he was killed under suspicious circumstances and his death was ruled a "suicide." His name was John Lang; I'm sure there are a number of videos here with more info. My uneducated guess is that the number of gangstalking victims rose exponentially after this case, piggybacking on its legitimacy.
For anyone who wants an explanation behind the street lamp "brighting" mentioned, look up "Street light interference phenomenon" on Wikipedia. Basically, high pressure sodium lamps cycle on and off every few minutes for weeks when they're about to burn out. As a result, people have a tendency to believe they only turn on (or off) when _they_ specifically walk underneath of them, due to confirmation bias. As a result, a lot of people think it's a psychic phenomenon. Interesting to hear about it in the context of gang-stalking paranoia.
You've really gotta wonder how people mess up this badly. One google search for "Gloucester" makes it pretty clear it's in England. Takes a couple seconds at most. You can also google pronunciations, also only taking a couple seconds. Normally you'd expect somebody uninformed to read it as something like "glow-kester", but this guy just straight up guessed... and badly. "Gloister".
@@arstulexu really gotta wonder how someone who doesnt make any videos themselves can sit here and attempt to criticize someone else who is making videos. Pretty crazy.....u go make some better videos...then talk ur shiit hero
@@packers12to80 I know how to google "Gloucester". In fact, I'd even say I'm pretty damn good at it. I think that more than qualifies me to be able to judge other people's ability to do it. I _think_ that should address your concerns. I mean, it's kind of difficult to understand what you're saying when you type like a 10 year old having a tantrum.
I experienced gang stalking while having a bad trip on shrooms one night very briefly, it does genuinely feel real and the “stalkers” really do feel like they were there while my cousin assured me no one was recording or following me. It felt almost near identical to the “white bear” episode from black mirror. To be sober and experience that same feeling must be very overwhelming and exhausting..
I had a bad trip once and had the same experience well in public it's nothing to stress about and sometimes funny to think about after the trip but it dose give us a good example on what people who have stalking delusion go through daily. It's just hard for them to brace reality and realize no one gives a dam about them making them feel alone needing some delusional fantasies to make them feel important
The gang stalking thing is a really sad situation, where people are indulging mentally ill people in their paranoia by lending credibility to something that makes no rational sense and would be somewhat easy to prove if it was occurring in some strange unique situation.
This kind of delusion, speaking from experience of having an episode in my life of extreme delusion and paranoia, is best not endorsed. It shouldn't be encouraged as it's already a self fulfilling prophecy and a dark path. It's borderline schizophrenia combined with an active imagination, too much internet in isolation, loneliness and more than likely misuse of drugs. This stuff does happen (Surveillance and intelligence gathering) there are services out there that track human beings, (military, intelligence agencies, police agencies, private investigation). But the likelihood of individuals being targeted when most of those who claim gang stalking, will be isolated, up to nothing particularly of interest and just another human being in a busy world, is highly unlikely. Most of them hopefully aren't planning acts of terror, are neither a threat to national security, nor high level criminals or under private investigation
Its stupid to think some organization pays several spys on daily basis to target you with newest alien technology just so much its subtle to bother you but not enough to have real evidence lol
I know a few people who claim to be gang stalked. Watching her descend into madness was sad. She'd confront random people working and stuff saying they're following her.
This kind of delusion, speaking from experience of having an episode in my life of extreme delusion and paranoia, is best not endorsed. It shouldn't be encouraged as it's already a self fulfilling prophecy and a dark path. It's borderline schizophrenia combined with an active imagination, too much internet in isolation, loneliness and more than likely misuse of drugs. This stuff does happen (Surveillance and intelligence gathering) there are services out there that track human beings, (military, intelligence agencies, police agencies, private investigation). But the likelihood of individuals being targeted when most of those who claim gang stalking, will be isolated, up to nothing particularly of interest and just another human being in a busy world, is highly unlikely. Most of them hopefully aren't planning acts of terror, are neither a threat to national security, nor high level criminals or under private investigation
The whole section on Gang-stalking sounds like a mix of paranoia, a sense of low self-esteem, delusions, hallucinations; audio, visual, touch or other; mania and possibly a few other things. This could also include tinnitus. Yes, tinnitus can manifest as voices. If you really are being stalked, talk to a doctor! This is NOT meant to make lite of the issue but to name kinds of problems that can cause these kinds of feelings.
The question you have to ask in gangstalking cases is "Why?". What knowledge gain or profit could there be to run a coordinated, high tech observation involving tens or hundreds of people on one person? As much as people want to see themselves as the lead actor in their own movie, they should question, if there is really anything in their life that would be worth millions and couldn't be discovered in other ways with much less hassle. Man would my gangstalkers be bored by my ordinary life.
rlly tho. I’ve had long back n forth’s with ppl thinking gang stalking was real - yet they never once experienced it. And the ones experiencing it tend to be infuriatingly annoying with their incoherent justifications.
The government has been even more wasteful experimenting on poor people before in things like MK Ultra giving random people LSD and basically excuses to torture people disguised as research. Cops waste their time hanging around to catch people speeding and harass minorities instead of do any real help to the community safety. The government rules off of fear and compliance. It's no wonder people think they will do this
as someone with a myraid of mental issues, ive had delusions of gangstalking since i was about 10. it's horrific. it feels like nowhere is safe, you're never alone, and you'll never be okay. everything and everyone is a threat. the feeling of constantly being watched and fucked with is one id never wish on anyone. especially when medication doesn't help you at all. if you know someone struggling with delusions, please just be kind. and leave the heavy reality checking to medical professionals. when you reality check us, yes, you mean well, but it can often cause us to heavily spiral and even fuel our delusions. unconditional kindness and patience is much preferred, and as much as the individual will listen, try to get them help.
First of all I'm deeply sorry about your problems and I wish you only the best, but I have a suspicion that the people that fall into conspiracy theories (for instance things like ancient aliens or Q stuff) are most likely suffering some form of schizophrenia o delusions, would you say that's a possibiliy? The idea that surrounding oneself in an echo chamber that actually confirms the delusions would be... idk how to say it but prefered by the altered mind?
@@joshcantrell8397because they are not experiencing the same reality as us. My great grandmother has dementia and I've been reading up on dementia care for the past few years and a lot of it is learning to live in their reality. When someone is experiencing intense psychosis or delusions, you as a layman are NOT going to get them to change their mind. Confronting them with reality, as off as it sounds, will literally just cause them more harm. As the person above said, just try to get them to a professional as best you possibly can.
