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Diversity and Maximum Demand in Electrical Installations. 

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Being able to calculate and understand the difference between diversity and maximum demand is an important skill for all electricians.
It will avoid overloading the main fuse, with all its problems if this happens, and it will also avoid unnecessary upgrading of equipment.
This video looks at two very different dwellings to show the factors to take into consideration and demonstrates why we should not just apply a blanket diversity to every household.
The calculations for each circuit type are demonstrated and worked through as understanding diversity and being able to calculate maximum demand is an asset to every electrician.
This is video No.59 on our RU-vid channel where we have videos on a wide range of electrical topics.
To view all our videos click on this link … / @learnelectrics4402

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@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
SEE ALL - To view a list of all our LearnElectrics videos, click on the link below. There are many videos on many electrical topics including Installation, Part P, 18th Edition, Testing, Certification, Lighting, Sockets, Ring Circuits and much more. ru-vid.com/show-UCYaJQnpO4XAp0yCgqzMkmfA
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 Год назад
You can the best channel so far
@willammay
@willammay Месяц назад
A special thank you from the bottom of my heart for this explanation, and thank you on behalf of all of us foreigners who decided to study electricity in English. Your slow and precise voice allows us to understand better. Once again, thank you very very much.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Месяц назад
Glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate your comments. Lots more to come, it is a great trade to work in. Dave.
@pasqualeamabile5672
@pasqualeamabile5672 5 месяцев назад
Your explanations are much easier to understand than college, thank you Dave .😊
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 5 месяцев назад
Thanks. I try to keep the videos to one subject at a time. Spread the word. Dave.
@TheZohri
@TheZohri Месяц назад
I dont know how to thank you for these helpful videos. You are a great teacher. Currently, I am doing my assessment and the tutor asked me to explain the discharge lighting when considering diversity and max demand. This video explained it all. Thank you
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Месяц назад
You're very welcome and I am so glad it helped. keep learning, its a great trade. Dave.
@stonegrundy123
@stonegrundy123 11 месяцев назад
The clearest explanation of an often confusing subject. Thanks
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 11 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching. Dave.
@lucapuzzoli8363
@lucapuzzoli8363 Год назад
Thank you Dave.Your level of teaching is simply amazing
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
You are very welcome, thanks for the comments. Really appreciated. Dave.
@steveokinevo
@steveokinevo 3 года назад
Thanks dave another class video, started throwing a link to your channel around some of the other elec sites on youtube, hope it helps man worth a go anyways. Your material is priceless mate your channel deserves more, steve.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Thank you Steve, every little bit of assistance helps. Lots more to come. Dave.
@wildboy1983
@wildboy1983 2 года назад
I am studying towards my domestic installer and I found that the course I am taking completely lacks most of your excellent content. I would be happy to donate/gift towards future videos as I am sure your channel has made the difference between being successful in my new career. Thank you
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
That's nice of you to say, thank you. Just enjoy the videos and keep learning, its a great trade to be in. It's taken me all round the world over the last 40 years plus. Dave.
@bradleypyewell8986
@bradleypyewell8986 4 месяца назад
Absolutely incredible video and so easy to understand. Thankyou
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful and appreciated. Dave.
@user-qi8tv2sj4m
@user-qi8tv2sj4m 10 месяцев назад
I know a lot more now thanks to your videos. The best way to learn they are better than the college. Keep making more
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 10 месяцев назад
Thanks, will do, and thank you for watching.
@babangidaciroma4491
@babangidaciroma4491 Год назад
Great presentation as always, thank you DAVE, you make me love my job as an electrician and adding more knowledge to my mental tool box
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thanks for the support. Its a good trade and kept me occupied for over 40 years, took me all around the world working on some amazing contracts. Dave.
@tonyp2878
@tonyp2878 2 года назад
You are number 1. Number 0 if it was possible! Thank you a lot !
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Thanks Tony. Appreciated. Dave
@joshwilton565
@joshwilton565 Год назад
This video has been very helpfully, I’m very grateful
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Glad it helped, thanks for watching.
@sygad1
@sygad1 Год назад
Really good video, you explained it very simply. Thank you for making and sharing
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Glad it was helpful and thanks for the support.
@johnkeys368
@johnkeys368 Год назад
Always clear and concise explanation
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Glad you liked it John, much appreciated comment and thanks for watching. Dave.
@richardrobinson5166
@richardrobinson5166 2 года назад
Poor Mrs B..... she's a slave to her kitchen 😂😂 Great video, I really like the simple way you explain things 👍👍
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Thanks Richard, I appreciate the support. Dave.
@pooley2853
@pooley2853 2 года назад
Absolute legend thanks again Dave. Another very informative video. Your students are very lucky to have you.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Thank you so much. Great feedback and appreciated. Dave.
@lanceeaton2812
@lanceeaton2812 9 месяцев назад
With the introduction of low wattage LEDs for our lights 100W per lamp seems excessive. Great video.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 9 месяцев назад
The Regs require us to calculate for 100W per lamp holder if its possible to install a 100W lamp in it. Some modern lamps will only fit in unique to them lamp holders in which case you can reduce the load accordingly. Good question, thanks for watching.
@Edgariux111
@Edgariux111 Год назад
Did that separate video ever come out ? For industrial and commercial properties? Loving these videos btw
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Not yet, it is on the list. I'll see if I can shuffle it to the top, Dave.
@Edgariux111
@Edgariux111 Год назад
@learnelectrics4402 that would be great 👍 but for now one might make a few more circuits account for a 100% usage compared to a domestic setting... just to be on a safe side :)
@highhurstfarmandholidaycot526
@highhurstfarmandholidaycot526 3 года назад
Very good presentation-many thanks.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Glad you like it Andy. Thanks. Dave.
@no_short_circuit
@no_short_circuit 3 года назад
Thank you again - a complicated topic simplified very well.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
What a great compliment, thank you. Dave.
@rri7534
@rri7534 3 года назад
I agree he is an excellent teacher! 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@SeanyyBoy_
@SeanyyBoy_ 11 месяцев назад
can you disregard solar installations? lets say you have a 20a circuit for a 3.68kW inverter.. this has no demand as its a generator? does solar actually offset max demand therefore reducing it? obviously this is only the case for the midday but this is when it will be assumed that load demand is at its highest.. and with battery storage does demand reduce again? hopefully i explained htat correctly. thankyou for your videos mate they are so valuable
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 10 месяцев назад
Some solar installations will feed back into the grid, others will use battery storage. Have you read through Part 8 of the Wiring Regs on Prosumer Installations. Thanks for watching. Dave.
@SeanyyBoy_
@SeanyyBoy_ 10 месяцев назад
@@learnelectrics4402 I haven't mate.. I'm still early in my studies so I will read this!
@SSSwilliams
@SSSwilliams 3 года назад
Great video 👍, I hope this comes up in c&g2396 and will use a similar explanation. 👍
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
You never know Chris. Thursday's video is about Adiabatic Equations, and you nearly always get a question or two on that. Keep watching and good luck. Dave.
@musangobi2079
@musangobi2079 3 года назад
I appreciate your effort, Dave keep it up
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Thank you Musa, great feedback. I hope you are doing well, keep watching my friend, lots more videos to come. Dave.
@Thalasius
@Thalasius Год назад
Great vid! What about Fridges?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
We don't apply diversity to fridges. Whatever the manufacturer's rated current is for the fridge is what we use. Hope this helps. Dave.
@SuperGP1000
@SuperGP1000 2 года назад
Thanks, is it possible to provide more information about how to calculate the diversity for more than one cooker, i.e. On-Site Guide H4
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Good idea, its on the list. Thanks for watching. Dave.
@KarlPior
@KarlPior 4 месяца назад
Excellent 👍
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 месяца назад
Thank you, appreciated. Dave.
@abrehamish
@abrehamish 3 года назад
Thank you Dave. Enjoyable and informative video.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Super. Glad you enjoyed it. Keep watching, lots to come.
@zed.kelectrical8741
@zed.kelectrical8741 2 года назад
Thanks again.. for a very 'user friendly' explanation.. works for me .. lol Cheers.. 👍
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Great, if it helps, it has achieved its goal. Thanks for watching. Dave.
@willie6559
@willie6559 3 года назад
Thnaks Dave,great video,but there is one i don't understand,why the fluorescent lamp we multiply the actual lamp rating by 1.8 to get the total watt??where is the 1.8 come from?what is stand for ?thanks dave
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
The start up currents. It is an industry recognised figure for the extra current drawn when the lights are first turned on and firing an arc from one end to the other. Once the arc is there and the light is lit, it settles down to standard current. Hope this helps, thanks for watching. Dave.
@willie6559
@willie6559 3 года назад
@@learnelectrics4402 Very helpful, thanks
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
You are very welcome my friend. Dave.
@mb-electricalservices
@mb-electricalservices 3 года назад
The one I have been waiting for. Thank you. 👍
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Well, we got something right then. Glad you like it and thanks for viewing. lots more like this to come. Dave.
@kingofthetrowel1725
@kingofthetrowel1725 3 года назад
Nice one dave 👍 love this channel even a non sparks like myself finding it so interesting 👍 what other videos will be coming up soon dave? Would you do one on different types of cable in domestic houses right from old to new stuff, it would be brilliant to see how it’s changed over the years
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
That's a possibility, different cabling colours, sizes etc. Coming up? A whole variety, part P, Test and Inspection, RCDs, PAT Testing, and loads more. Plus the weekly 18th Edition series on Thursdays. You keep watching them and spreading the word and we'll keep making them. Thanks. Dave.
@kingofthetrowel1725
@kingofthetrowel1725 3 года назад
@@learnelectrics4402 nice one dave brill! 👍👍🙌🏻🙌🏻
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
You're welcome.
@franciscogago5961
@franciscogago5961 Год назад
Excellent
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thank you so much, appreciated.
@dennisfowler7873
@dennisfowler7873 3 года назад
This sort of unrelated to the subject...if I'm doing a kitchen and I ran a 10mm cable for the HOB can I add a socket next to it for the oven...or do I need to run a separate circuit...take it of the ring...THANKS
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Yes, you can spur off the cooker control panel to supply power to the oven. The building regulations allow this as long as the hob and the oven are both with 2 metres of the control panel. Hope this helps. Dave.
@dennisfowler7873
@dennisfowler7873 3 года назад
@@learnelectrics4402 thanks
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
You're welcome.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 месяца назад
Room heater diversity. Does thermostatically controlled underfloor heating in each room, class as wall mounted room heater? thx
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Месяц назад
Take a look at Row 7 of Table A2 p137 if you need individual diversity for underfloor heating.They are a fixed appliance and should be on their own circuit.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 Месяц назад
@@learnelectrics4402 Thx very much, appreciate. That is rather common sense to have each room off its own circuit. Except for a few low current bathroom UFH's that can be off the one circuit. But what about diversity relating to the _whole_ system?
@naturalremediescheshire
@naturalremediescheshire 3 года назад
Thank you Dave, great work. 👍
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Thanks for the positive comment. Very much appreciated. Dave.
@ramphago1240
@ramphago1240 2 года назад
Thanks it is very helpful
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Happy to help Ram, thanks for the support. Dave.
@azizurrahman6663
@azizurrahman6663 2 года назад
Hi dave excellent video diversity , on-site guide 1.5 mm 1mm 6A 106 metres how it calculation formula that is lighting circuit, so therefore can you do more video .thank you
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Will do Azizur. It's in the notebook now. Dave.
@abdirizakhassan1073
@abdirizakhassan1073 3 года назад
Thanks great video and helpful
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Thanks for the positive comment. Much appreciated. Dave.
@guleed6690
@guleed6690 3 месяца назад
Wonderful
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 месяца назад
Thanks for watching. Dave.
@benjamintomlinson1139
@benjamintomlinson1139 2 года назад
Many thanks Dave
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Thanks for watching Ben, much appreciated, Dave.
@onothodox
@onothodox 2 года назад
Wouldn't you need to also divide the watts by the power factor of the cooker, to get the actual current draw?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
We're following the methods in the On site guide. Thanks for watching.
@seanforder8824
@seanforder8824 6 месяцев назад
Thankyou !
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 5 месяцев назад
You're welcome, thanks for watching. Dave.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 2 месяца назад
Nice vid.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Месяц назад
Thank you. Appreciated.
@leebond1837
@leebond1837 2 года назад
In relation to cable calculations, can anyone clarify for me whether you apply diversity before or after you work out In? Because the way we do at my college is to work out your In from your Ib but surely if you do that and then go on to apply diversity after cable selection youd potentially have use a lower rated circuit breaker?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
The college way is right Lee. In for max demand based on Ib and choose cable size on this. Diversity will affect the overall demand on the whole installation. if you add all the breaker ratings together it will be a lot more than 100A, this is where diversity comes in. Hope this helps.
@xlvii6994
@xlvii6994 2 года назад
having trouble to understand how 66 percent was determined for lighting ??
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
This comes from data supplied by the IET and published in the On-Site Guide. We just use their figures and let the technical boffins work out the details. Thanks for watching, lots more to come.
@franciscogago5961
@franciscogago5961 Год назад
Thanks
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Glad it helped. Dave.
@Khanjan-si8me
@Khanjan-si8me 2 года назад
I can you do one Max RCD tripping time please 1 × and 5× ?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Take a look at this video about RCDs AMENDMENT 2 - 18th EDITION - RCD TESTING, click on the link below ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vOmT_FSaqVk.html Thanks. Dave.
@frxcryptotradesmen5306
@frxcryptotradesmen5306 2 года назад
Brilliant
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Thank you, great feedback. Thanks for watching. Dave.
@krazylad84
@krazylad84 3 года назад
Thanks again!
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Brilliant, thanks for sticking with me. Appreciated.
@patrickburke8274
@patrickburke8274 2 года назад
Lovely
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Thanks for the support and thanks for watching. Dave.
@mohammadtariq1541
@mohammadtariq1541 2 месяца назад
Page no of 311.1 is changed. It is now on page 51, in new 18th editions.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 месяца назад
Correct. This video relates to the earlier blue book. The brown book is page 51. thanks for the input, appreciated,
@tttrrriiipppyyy
@tttrrriiipppyyy Год назад
You're a good egg x
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thank you, appreciated.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 Месяц назад
The DNOs fuse is to protect _their_ system, *not* yours as that is your responsibility. Say the main DNO fuse is 100A, a double pole 100A MCB can be fitted which can also double up as a main isolator. This is a cover all for any diversity of a whole house system. So diversity can say give 115A, but the 100A main MCB catches all.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Месяц назад
Great comments, thanks for watching.
@johnburns4017
@johnburns4017 Месяц назад
@@learnelectrics4402 A _customer's_ 100A gG _fuse_ can replace the whole house MCB as the fuse only acts on overload not fault, so any fault trip is restricted to its own MCB/RCBO circuit. Selectivity at times cannot be relied upon, the main MCB may take out the whole house. The likes of FuseBox make a metal box with a 100A main switch and a single gG fuse holder, quite cheaply. Then diversity is not a problem. Best have a few spare fuses in case, like in the old days - seen them from £2.50 to £4. If you think the 100A may occasionally be exceeded, fit an MCB to instantly reset. As I wrote, this gets you through the _whole house_ diversity issue, not diversity in individual circuits.
@flatgash
@flatgash Год назад
What happened to Emily’s husband? 😢
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
One of the mysteries of life. thanks for watching. Dave.
@damooooo
@damooooo 4 месяца назад
He got electrocuted.
@franciscogago5961
@franciscogago5961 Год назад
Ok
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Lots more to come.
@boblewis5558
@boblewis5558 2 года назад
And therein lies the problem! Sparkies are NOT clairvoyant. ANY installation SHOULD be designed for a "Bert" or higher usage even. Otherwise when "Bert" moves house he has to forgo his hobby for weeks or even months and lay out a fortune to have his house & CU completely rewired to be suitable. STOP designing CU's for low loads! ALWAYS design for high usage, ESPECIALLY since electricity usage is increasing all the time. I'm sick and tired of seeing 6-way and 8-way extension leads having to be used in other people's houses I've visited because there are only TWO sockets in a room! Even in new builds! Bloody ridiculous! There should be AT LEAST one double socket on each wall! Anything else is BLATANTLY stupid. Likewise in bedrooms ONE double socket on ONE side of an expected bed position when there are two possible bed positions meaning FOUR DOUBLE socket outlets, one each side of each bed position and another above a standard height dressing table for hair drier etc. A house I had in Bradford had 26 individual sockets/switched power feeds in the kitchen alone on its own ring! On one occasion 22 were occupied! Not all delivering power at the same time but who wants to keep plugging and unplugging a mixer when you want a cup of tea and you can't use the microwave and toaster at the same time? Always design for "possible" not probable expected maximum load in a specific situation and with minimum diversity expected in a generic situation! Anything else is just the electrical industry lining their pockets at the expense of consumers!
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 2 года назад
Great reply Bob, thanks for watching. Dave.
@mrpoo7651
@mrpoo7651 Год назад
Poor Emily :(
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thank you for watching.
@mrpoo7651
@mrpoo7651 Год назад
@@learnelectrics4402 great vid as always
@ibrahimibrahimi5384
@ibrahimibrahimi5384 3 года назад
Learn electrics Ze measure
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 года назад
Yes, the video for testing and measuring Ze is on the link below. Thanks for watching. To view the video, TESTING Ze and Zs, click on the link below ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eHT_m2mRs7o.html
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