Do you happen to know mounting depth and spacing between the square brace inside the back of the box? Also wondering the same thing on the 21 model thank you in advance
YM I was always hoping to see you do a vid testing out some DIY subs, up until the day I saw those JTR's in your setup. I thought oh well I can scratch those hopes! lol
@@FatFolksProductions I’ve never been a DIY kind of guy. I don’t have the patience, passion or the time to devote to DIY projects. Kyle is great at DIY and it’s so fitting for his channel.
👍 Another great vid. My buddy just built 4 GSG Full Marty's with 21" Kraken's and is very happy with them. He's going to be building another 4 for someone else and is considering using a nail gun to speed up the process.
One year passed since you made that video and I watched it. But hopefully you read this comment though. Pls make a sealed enclosure subwoofer with a 15" woofer. Is there any kit out?
This man is HUGE, HUGE , talented and handsome. THEN he took the time to develop a personality. I am not afraid to admit that I am in awe of all the projects this super human takes on and executes. He does it with humor and resilience. One of my favorite personalities on RU-vid ❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm eager to see this puppy. It's really nice how GSG turns this into easier DIY for the bad boys going in there. As for the Gorilla tape... We needed a lot of that last year 😂😂😂.
@Life of Bliss ... Not gonna lie to you here. Depending on how a warranty matter goes, I may end up doing a "Poor Man's GSG" something. I'll keep you guessing.
Do you get alot more output having 2 driver's in the one box? I was wondering if you had 2 boxes the same size as the duel box but only had on driver in each. Would the perform better?
It's gonna be 3 or 4x baffle (can't remember off hand what it is). It will be plenty strong. I used 2x plywood and 1x mdf on mine l. When you start talking over 1.5-3 inches of wood, it's very strong
Great vid as always. I love how easy the GSG packs are to put together. For the braces on 18' kit, I also had a small issue of getting them to slide into place easily. What I did was just "lightly" sand the edges of the braces, then BADDA BING BADDA BANG they slide right into place. Outside of that, the builds are super easy. Can't wait to see yours is all finished.
@@LifeofBliss I regret not seeing this. I am sorry, I mean, what was the parts for the amps, the subs, and components for the full build? Ironically after trying to part this out myself, I simply bought a used Captivator 4000 ULF from JTR. Problemo solved....
That's one way to get good bass!! 😉 So this will be the gsg Evo box, gsg house 18s once they are finished designing, and running them on either 2 nx3000 or a sinbosen d4-3000
I wish it were easier to buy enclosures finished up & looking good. Some of us out here CAN'T do this DIY stuff. We're not physically capable. Just being honest. If I were physically capable of putting together one of these flat packs....I'd just pay someone for a design & build the box my-own-self from the ground up....which is exactly how I handled this situation for 30 years. ...but now I can't feel my hands, and my back is too screwed up to be lifting stuff & bending over a thousand times. ...but anyway, back to the "finished up & looking good" enclosures that can't be found or purchased. It's like $1,200 for a Duratex painted box from GSG. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking their enclosures. They look great and they look strong. Pricing is fair for the flat packs, too. My issue lies w/ the finish...and the finish alone. That Duratex stuff is ugly, imho. I'm not a fan. ...and I don't want to place a gigantic box that's coated in the stuff in my living room. We put thousands into oak hardwood flooring & decorating...and a humongous black, bumpy box ain't got a place in the room. Not now. Not ever. I felt exactly the same when I was doing car audio. I'd never put a rhino liner coated box into a $65,000 vehicle. I think it looks unprofessional. Being honest, I'd rather have my enclosure wrapped in carpeting than Duratex...and carpeting doesn't look good either. ...but at least it takes some skill to wrap a box. For $1,200, an EMPTY enclosure should look however the buyer wants it to look. Just sayin'....
I hear ya. It's not for everyone. I agree with you for the most part besides the skill to wrap a box part. Both take skill. Different amounts of prep, especially when spraying an enclosure. Carpet can cover nearly a 1/16th to 1/8th inch edge on a box. Can't do that with duratex or any other painted finish. I think the biggest issue here is the price of finishes and the time it takes to prep and apply properly. Want a gloss finish with auto paints? You can probably double your $1200 price tag, more if I was doing it. Especially for the size of some of these boxes. Prices of veneer have gone way up; along with all the raw wood costs since the whole economic collapse with covid. I understand $1200 is a lot for a box. I don't disagree. I think duratex just allows companies to get a painted look without the extreme prep that some higher end finishes require. That all takes time, and time is money my friend 😉
@@LifeofBliss I'm in total agreement, and I take back the statement that a $1,200 box should look however we want. That is a bit much, as prep work is massively time consuming for a mirror finish. ...and a mirror finish should cost a lot more than Duratex. ...but for $1,200 there should be a 2nd option other than Duratex. I mean sand it smooth & apply 2 coats of a satin stain & 1 coat of spray on poly. Somethin'....other than bumpy & black. On top of that, most of us who are willing to spend $1,200 on an enclosure, are going to be willing to put out more $$$ in order to have it look the way we want it to look. This is an expensive hobby outright, and that's a fact, but this DIY stuff, as is, is more expensive than buying a finished product a lot of the time. In my case, I have the sub I want to use. I have the amp I want to use....and JUST A BOX is going to cost more money than buying something like a SVS PC-2000 PRO...or an Emotiva XS15. ...and it's not even designed for my driver. Heck, they don't even make these boxes for a 15" driver AT ALL. They're actually doing me a favor by doin' this. ...and of course my DIY sub would be "better" than an entry level SVS or Emotiva model in the end...but it also cost 2.5x the $$$ all said. $600 driver, $500 amp, $1,200 box. We're talkin' $2,200 - $2,300 here...and that's just the money side of things. Never mind all the waiting, and purchasing separate parts from various distributors. Some of them from half way across the globe. I could just as easily buy TWO SVS PC-2000 Pros or TWO Emotiva XS15s. Again, I know they aren't as good...but it's not like they're trash either. Would my one DIY sub outperform two 15"s on 1.1kw? I doubt it. I really do. All I'm really saying is...it shouldn't be that difficult, within this extremely expensive hobby, for someone to locate an enclosure builder who wants to make some $$$. Quite frankly, I've spent MONTHS sending out emails to about 2 dozen different enclosure builders and GSG & Next Level Fabrications are the only ppl who even got back to me. That's nonsense. It truly is. I am even telling some of these guys "Hey, I have this pair of 12" Incriminator Audio Flatlynes OR this 15" Soundsplinter RL-p15. You choose. Whichever is most interesting to you. Build whatever type of enclosure ya want, too. Just make it satin black & smooth so it matches my speakers & doesn't stand out like a sore thumb in the room" If we're willing to put $2k into a box, there should be way more than 1 or 2 ppl out there wanting that job. ...and for the type of $$$ we spend on this audio stuff, we should have a say in how our custom projects look. That's all...
I did not... I believe I linked their site in the description though. I will probably go over all the costs once I do the video where they are all done and going over them in room. Honestly, I'm starting to lean against mentioning costs cause so many times products change, go on sale, etc before the video even comes out! For example, these boxes dropped about 20% including shipping after they were sent to me!
If you really want to go cheap on clamps or a way to hold the wood tight, use the small cheap ratchet straps. You can get a 3 pack for under $20. With a combination of those and clamps and brad nails, boxes go together quick. I agree about titebond 2, it seems to have the right consistency to stay in place long enough to get the pieces of wood together. titebond 3 is just too thin.
As always good job on these. If I was building these from scratch no way would they get all that bracing. I can see for some folks how this would be easier as you don’t need tools but for me that’s half the fun. The dog ate the missing footage! Maybe on the 24 you could do some exotic veneer! Both of my kids live in the KC area. I’ll tell them to check out MWAVE and say hello to you.
Steven Smith from home theater gurus bypasses clamps by using a brad nailer gun to hold things together as well as with the glue. Speeds up the process and worked just fine. Check out his video of building the devastator from GSG.
Yep, I used a brad nail gun for all the panels 😉 clamps just hold things tight while I nail it together, then they are removed and on to the next panel. Did you watch the video? Lol
If I understand correctly, At The rear side of the box, the port looks like one single massive continuous portion. At the bottom side of port, it is divided into 3 partitions. Logically I'm not sure if the port functionality remains same. Because in any simulation software like Winisd, port is considered uniform throughout the length. I mean, when some portion of the port is partitioned, does it change the way the air resonate in the port ...
I'll be measuring the boxes soon, but I do not have the knowledge behind port design to answer that effectively to be honest. Not sure how the change in width and partitions affect it. Supposed to be tuned to 13 hz though
@@LifeofBliss even I'm really curious 😅😅 may be il try to build a small 10" sub with port and partitions and try to see. But yeah whenever you measure please share with us 😊😊
This is an attractive product for those without a table saw, router, and other tools that most people use to build these boxes. Glad you think it's pretty sweet though
I would agree, you don't know... wood glue is stronger than screws and you don't have those giant holes to fill and prep before finishing. I remember using wood screws on my first box in high school before investing in clamps and a better system. Stop wasting your time with giant screw holes and an inferior box building method
@LifeofBliss um. No! You need to talk to a structural engineer buddy. Wood glue is effective but not on its own. Just because there is new tech doesn't mean it's better.
