Use a longer bolt and a "studding connector" nut. The nut has 5-6 times more thread, so the pressure on the nut and bolt threads will be reduced, they'll last a lot longer.
Something I discovered with this method if for example you use a 6m rivnut it says to drill a 9mm hole but this is a loose fit and can make it a nightmare to make stop spinning in the hole especially if your in a situation where you can't put a lot of pressure easily. What I did was drill a 8.5mm hole then drill most of the way through with a 9mm and then tap it in with a hammer, MUCH easier.
Loved the video, absolute life saver, used this diy tip to install the rivnuts on my vauxhall vivaro van with the fiamma F35 Pro awning, worked perfectly and brackets installed in under 20 minutes. Keep up the good work!
Also this is a great method for people with bad shoulders. I’ve had several shoulder surgeries and have a nice tool but can’t use it anymore but this method is great!!
Much easier if you use the ratchet spanner on the nut and the "ring" end of the other spanner on the bolt head. Never use the open ends of the spanner for something like this.
Good one. But its easier if you use a ratchet and socket on the to as its stay on better and you can put downward force on it easier. Also it EVEN BETTER if you use a hex head bolt as then you can slide the ring end of the spanner (or ratchet spanner FTW) over the head of the bolt and not use the pesky "open" spanner end. Cheers.
I've used these Rivnuts to attach Yakima rooftop rain-gutter plates to my 2002 Hyundai Accent hatchback. The Yakima kit actually included these Rivnuts (called PlusNuts, in the packaging). Installation involved a nut-washer-bolt-AllenWrench system similar to your Grade-8 bolt system. They worked well and have held the four plates tightly for over 18 years to this day, to carry lots of crap on the roof of that car. I've also used these things for mounting rack accessories to my bicycle. By the way, Harbor Freight Tools sells a similar rivet-nut tool for about 30 bucks, way less than the one depicted in the video.
You kinda answer my concern about installing an aftermarket roof rack on my nissan frontier truck. I was going to drop the headliner which makes it a bigger job until I saw a video about using these Rivnuts. My concern was how much stress and weight can these Rivnuts take versus the instruction manual that had you drop the headliner, install these 4 plates inside the roof and attach bolts and nuts to them. I'd prefer to go the easy route but not sure how much vertical and horizontal stress they can take
Nice video,saves a bunch of money,no need to go to Horrendous Freight and come home with JUNK tools.I would use instead of that 2nd wrench,a socket and a sliding tee handle,that would let you hold the nut,apply down pressure,and if needing more torque,instantly sliding out the handle.Try it,A sliding tee handle is valuable, IMO.
Nice! Was planning on actually buying the nutsert tool but this method will work fine since it won’t be used often. But then again I might just buy it.
Very useful - thanks. The lights on my Series Landy are self-tapping wood screws! I am fed up with them coming loose. I can see both sides of the bulkhead, so this should work fine. I can't see myself needing to do no more than 10 fasteners so buying a tool is wasteful. Thanks.
I was going to have Tig welded threaded inserts into a 2020 Royal Enfield Classic 500 motorcycle rear cargo rack ($300) and after seeing your clips I'm off to purchase the inserts and the fasteners to make the tool. The wall of the round tube looks to be 2mm and not being able to find any clips on Rivnuts into round tubing I'll test on a waste piece of tubing first and if no good I'll just pay the dollars and have the Rivnuts Tig welded into place
I bought 2 size rivet nuts M12 & M10 and I was wrong in thinking the size of the bolt would be for M12 12 mm and for M10 a 10 mm bolt, but for the M10 is a 17mm bolt, so I would like if you or someone else could help me with a size rivet to bolt chart please. Thanks in advance. And by the way, your video is a really good and cheap way to put the inserts. COOL.
I need to buy some hex shaped threaded rivnuts to put running boards on a 2018 Ram Truck. The mounting holes cannot be reached on the back side but the factory holes are hex shaped.
Hi I'm Putting on a Spare Tire Rack on A 1984 Bronco 2 & You CANNOT Use A Regular Nut So This Should Work But I'm going to Suport The Bottom of The Tire Also Because ALL OF THE METAL Is Only Single Ply But I'm Also Going To Use Lock Tight & I'll Do A Video on it On Keeping it Real
🌟 Thank you, this is exactly what I was planning to do. My first time using rivnuts and now I see what I'm planning on doing very soon. I guess we can also observe the distance the outer crank nut moved, or number of threads, as well as the greater difficulty to determine when to stop expanding the hidden part of the rivnut ? Is it much harder to do a stainless steel rivnut? Prost
You will notice it get much harder all of a sudden :) Stainless is about the same. If you've got heaps to do recommend the tool. (Video on this on the channel)
@@VideoShowMeHow 👍Ok, thanks again! At this point I'm only doing 6. Maybe you have a video showing a few examples of some very worthy and different style rivnut tools. I've seen most look like the two handle pruning shears, which maybe difficult to use in certain areas. The side handle style looks like the typical rivet gun which can be operated one handed and can get into the difficult places. Maybe Amazon has the lowest prices. 🤔
I want to use these to make a perpendicular threaded insert on a round tube. How would these hold in a curved surface? Maybe a nut with a long knurled section and a washer with a radius of the pipe under the lip of the zert.
I think that this method requires that one can see the bottom side of the rivnut to correctly stop turning the spanner. If we want to install the rivnut on a panel, i think that it's better to use the commercial Tool.
Yeah, this method does the job but would only recommend if you only have a couple to do, the tool makes it MUCH easier 😁 There's a video on it on the channel -> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6D3oA_AvWh8.html
If you do a test run on scrap with the same thickness material as the blind application and mark the nut, just count the turns you need for full compression of the rivnut. When you come to the job proper, you have your reference for a perfect installation 👍
Thanks! This might save me quite a lot of money. I wonder if you'd be able to do this with countersunk rivnuts in aluminium profile? I guess the friction needed between the rivnut and the washer is not as good as when using "regular" rivnuts. What do you think?
I see this type diy rivet nut insert tool works for you and others here on RU-vid but it hasn't worked for me. I tried this type tool/method with 10-24 zinc plated steel rivet nuts. It keeps spinning the rivet nut off when I tighten to crush it. I tried waxing the washers... then tried putting grease on the washers. Yet it still wants to spin the rivet nut off. I haven't gotten one to work yet. I'm going to have to try the other type where you tighten the bolt on an oversized nut or just buy a proper tool.
@@VideoShowMeHow - Yeah, I watched that video as well. And yes that's the style set tool I was referring to trying next - only manually as I don't have the cordless driver I'd need to drive them. Though I'm looking at an impact driver as well. Problem is as well, like you everyone shows the DIY setting tools putting in 1/4-20 or 6mm rivet nuts. For those sizes and up you can easily find the number 8 hardened hex bolts etc needed. Under the 1/4-20, 6mm like the 10-24, 8's, 6's or 4's or 5mm, 4mm, 3mm you can't easily find hex head bolts let alone #8 hardened hex heads. I could only find hex Cap machine bolts. And the hardest of those was SS. So with a driver, I'd have to use a hex key socket in order to drive them. Anyway - no one is showing a diy setter for those smaller than 1/4-20, 6mm and I take it that's the reason. The hardened bolts are hard to find. I'm going to go to a specialty fastener outlet next week and see if I can find some in those smaller sizes. They should have them. The big box stores definitely don't. Or - break down and get the proper setting tool. Which does have a stroke setting so you don't over set them as one can easily do with the impact driver.
Yeah fair enough, understand. With the diy vids I just wanted to show a couple different methods people could try in a pinch, I've had some mates swear by just the nut method but I much prefer the tool. They can be had reasonably cheap (one of the vids shows a heap of listings and has links). All the best 🤘
Thanks! Excellent video. Could you please offer general advice on rivnut material selection (i.e. aluminium vs zinc plated steel vs stainless steel) ? (I intend to install an aluminium rivnut into aluminium profile, and then use a zinc plated steel clamping bolt for light duty clamping of an aluminium composite panel. This is for indoor use only).
Trying to attach an emergencyehicle light bar to the roof rack rails of a 2016 Lexus RX350. The aluminum? roof rack rail is hollow and right on the roof. Cannot get inside or under the rail. The light bar mount has 1/4-inch holes. Should the inside threads be lubricated? Thank you.
I want to use either a m5or a m6 in the roof of my Rodeo duel cad roof to anchor down the rails for my roof bars as they were originally installed with double sided tape and self tapping screws 28 years ago. They keep working loose and have been replaced once Already and sikaflex but are now loose or missing and roof leaks.
Great video and thanks for the tip on the DIY tool . I need to apply metal brackets to about 3mm thickness plastic , using the 3/16" steel or zinc rivnuts . I'm assuming the zinc would be easier to install . I don't have experience applying rivnuts . Do you have any suggestions installing the rivnuts to 3mm plastic ? Thank you again.
@@VideoShowMeHow I went crazy with my new riv nut tool today and re did my camper van.. I used self drilling screws to install the wall and ceiling panels. . with riv nuts it's stronger and easier to remove tell panels..
You did it the hard way. Use an oversize nut to stabilize and drive against and instead turn the through bolt to compress the rivnut. Use a pneumatic or electric driver so you don't need to tighten it by hand. It is done in just a few seconds.
I sheared-off multiple stainless steel bolts of #10-32 size before the rivnut showed any sign of collapsing. Ace hardware did not have high grade bolts that small size. Any suggestions? I'd love this hack, if it works as shown in the video.
Bigger they are the harder it is without the proper tool unfortunately, try with an extra washer and/or a little lube.. gotta really push down if that makes sense. I had a heap of bigger ones to do and ended up ebaying the tool 😁
@@VideoShowMeHow Fortunately Grainger had the manual tool instock and they weren't very far from where I live. I paid nearly twice as much as Ebay or Amazon, but I needed it asap 👍
Would it help if you hammer or press a dimple into the hole for the rivnut? You would have to tap the rivnut in with a hammer probably, but it may keep it from spinning.
@@VideoShowMeHow Sure but if there's no chart on how deep you have to compress each size nut, or even one for that matter, it doesn't help much. I checked quite a bit on the web and didn't find any charts etc which would be very useful. If you over-tighten these things they become distorten and you have to drill them out and start again.
@@humbertopacheco6657 Ah ok, I found if pressing down hold it helps it grip and get started if that makes sense. Have you got an impact drill? I uploaded on the channel another method using a drill might be easier
Looks like your rivitnut backed out of the hole as it got tighter. When that happens can you push it back down if you catch it early. How expensive is the installer tool? Do they make anything like this that could be used on 1/2" plywood and take 10 foot pounds of torque and resist a 100 pound vertical pulling force?
I tried this method and couldn't get the Rivnut to expand, I assume its because it isn't gripping in the hole. I bought mine from bunnings and they don't have the serrations under the head like your rivnut does.
Ahh yeah can be tricky without the serrations.. I've found hole needs to be as tight as possible and really press down on it as you try to tighten if that makes sense..
Just a side question, if you please... Can that rivet nut tool pull stainless steel nut inserts? I've seen riveters on Ebay and Amazon, but a bit sceptic about their performance with stainless steel nuts. Cheers buddy
I was thinking about this, I think your design works on plusnuts too. if you use an electric impact, substitute the nut for a coupler nut so it's longer you could weld a handle onto it so you don't have to worry about the wrench falling off. your design would be better than a real rivnut or plusnut tool because of the impact gun, no muscle needed. than to prevent the rivut/ plusnut from spinning you can tack weld the top of the plusnut to the metal frame. dude this design is genius, sorry I doubted you. also you could just weld a non- coated steel nut to the frame and forget about rivnuts. also weld a square piece/ large washer to the frame first and weld the nut on top, that way you increase the surface area so the nut has a stronger foundation. also a warning to never weld galvanized nuts and washers, it will kill you. plain uncoated steel only
@@BobbyHTTC correct. You'll need a bigger hole than the bolt size for the rivnut. I just get the bolt(s) I want to use, find the right size rivnut, then line up drill bits to the bottom of the it till I get one the same size.. Hope that makes sense! 🤙
@@VideoShowMeHow I have a 1/2 inch diameter hole that's stripped but my bolts that i have & need to use is M5 (0.19 inch)...so I bought M5 nutsert. Will this work or do I need to get a 1/2 inch nutsert?
Thanks for the video. I am trying to set some and it is really eating me up. They are 1/4-20 and I have twisted the head off a grade 8 bolt. That is ok though, only 60 more to go....
@@VideoShowMeHow I have the Surebonder 8510, but it is crap or I suck at it. I broke the 10-24 and the 1/4-20 mandrels. I only got 3 set of the 10-24 then switched to the 1/4-20. I was able to set 12 of those before it broke. I ordered a couple replacements of each, but I am not hopeful. I have had mixed results with the method you show, but your video gives me hope. : )
Hey thanks for this! I watched it with my man for his projects but the way you explained it with the camera angles and all made it so I totally understood the process!! Subscribed
Can somebody tell me what i am doing wrong? I have M5 stainless steel nutserts and every time i am trying to fit them, the bolt bends or i swist off the head and damage bolt. Tried miltiple methods and still no luck.
I bought a tool that looks like that one (smittybilt) and its shit!!!! I'm guessing the air reviter for an air gun would be better. I'm going to watch your home made method and honestly I bet it's better then that store bought tool.
Well first time I used it I was gentle and the metal couldn't take the force of the normal operation of the item and bent. So I called on the phone had some not normal conversation and finally received a second item. Used that tonight and same problems, it worked a few time and really terrible design! The way you showed with the homemade one actually just knocks the tool right to the side! Its 100% game changer!!!! I appreate people helping keep youtube alive because it's honestly the best system I have seen in my life. T.v politics are a joke! The help people provide on youtube is a revolutionary system if kept in order and continued help by the filters so we can recieve videos like yours to keep our roads safe
It was just a random bolt that I got at a hardware store; I'm not sure what metal it was made of. I managed to get it out after 15 minutes of finagling thankfully :)
Haha no?? (Well at least I hope not 🔥🔥🔥) I assume you are referring to the bush fires.. the good news is there's been a heap of rain over the last couple days almost right down the east coast that has helped 👍
