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DIY Solar Pool Heater with Full Automation Control - Complete Build 

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Parts List
(4) 4'x8'x15/32" Plywood as a frame base $60
(8) 2"x2"x8' Studs for the frame $20
(12) 1/2'x4' wood Dowels $30
500 pack zip ties $5
Black Tar Paper for the underlayment of the frames $20
10 Cans of Black Spray Paint $70
2" 3 Way Valve (Jandy, Pentair or Hayward) $75
Actuator (Jandy, Pentair or Hayward) $150
2" Check Valve (any brand) $50
Pex Pipe - For the best deal online see link above. $200
(6) 2" PVC Tee $30
(4) 1.5" PVC Tee $20
(2) 3/4 NPT Hose Bib $20
(8) 3/4 NPT to 1/2 Pex Shark Bite fittings $80
HELIOCOL 3/4" New Vacuum Relief Valve Pool Solar Panel White $40
Misc 2" and 1.5" PVC Fittings and Pipe $100
Total Project - $960 for 4 Solar Panels with 245' of Pex
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@vincentjean6756
@vincentjean6756 11 месяцев назад
Excellent build!
@paulhartman3118
@paulhartman3118 11 месяцев назад
Some fairly simple pressure drop calculations at various flow rates would minimize all the rework that you’re doing mostly by guessing. You will find larger tubing makes very big difference in reducing pressure drop. Also, once you know the pressure drop across your heater you will know how big the difference is between the “normal “ flow path and through the heater. I think a booster pump for the heater loop would give you more control over heater flow rate.
@drisskchicheb4490
@drisskchicheb4490 7 месяцев назад
Great video thanks a lot
@mram7715
@mram7715 Месяц назад
What’s the highest temperature you have been able to reach with this new solar system? Thanks
@subhash7408
@subhash7408 8 месяцев назад
😂😂❤❤ difficult job looks easy bro .i wants to do your project.
@blupupher
@blupupher 11 месяцев назад
just FYI, not all PEX is UV rated. I would hope Vevor knew what you were using it for and gave you some UV rated PEX. Even then, I would not like to have any PEX exposed to the sun all the time. Not sure what paint you used, but latex paint gives a UV barrier that protects the PEX, not sure if regular spray paint does or not. Maybe use a layer of black polyethylene between the PEEX and the polycarbonate cover you put on top? To make it even worse, PEX when exposed to UV and chlorinated water can cause it to deteriorate even faster.
@facemuseum6609
@facemuseum6609 11 месяцев назад
I 2nd that. I have had red 1/2" PEX fully exposed in Florida sun for less than a year disintegrate & crumple. I now paint any exposed PEX with no issues. Thanks for the great videos.
@thespencerowen
@thespencerowen 11 месяцев назад
I think I found this PEX on the sponsor website and it says it is NOT UV rated.
@JeffButera
@JeffButera 5 дней назад
Watching this a year after it was posted and the UV concerns were the first thing I was screaming about. You can't use conventional PEX in direct sunlight. This is why many people use black irrigation and other pipe for this process.
@ElectricPoliville
@ElectricPoliville 5 месяцев назад
29:27 no tee for temperature control, using the waterfall for cooling. Excellent plumbing.
@antd1886
@antd1886 7 месяцев назад
If you can report the flow rate and temperature rise of the water going through the heater, that would be a great comparison for other heating methods, and it would make it possible to see the real impact of this and similar systems on a pool
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 7 месяцев назад
I’ll do that this spring. I’ve got a couple more improvements that I think will help it a lot .
@jamesscott1932
@jamesscott1932 5 месяцев назад
Jan.,2024, I completed a copper tube system about 300 sq.ft. On a 28,000 gal. Pool in San Diego. Started at 60 deg. With warm discharge water at 72 deg. At 540 gal./hour. In 4 days the pool rose to 68 deg. (Covered)Then it rained for 4 or 5 days and went back down to 60!
@maccanderson7423
@maccanderson7423 4 месяца назад
We want to see how you connected the tubing to your pump and back to the pool do a video on that
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 3 месяца назад
I’m confused. It’s literally second half of the video??
@cjadventures8840
@cjadventures8840 21 день назад
@@chrisbuildsitallSome people
@skippytwonder
@skippytwonder 10 месяцев назад
Seat of the pants engineering at it's best.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 10 месяцев назад
Hey - it works…. Sometimes. Lol.
@OscarVestlie
@OscarVestlie 11 месяцев назад
Nice build! Looking forward to seeing how it performs with the polycarbonate. I need to add a water temp sensor to my pool setup. How do you keep the hole sealed?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
The sensors have a gasket on them and you use a hose clamp to hold it tight
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
Polycarbonate going on the system this week..
@pedrogomes4430
@pedrogomes4430 3 месяца назад
Hi Chris, do you think the black pe tube or the red pex tube is better for the system? Thank you.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 2 месяца назад
I like the pex just because of how durable it is
@LocostR1
@LocostR1 11 месяцев назад
Have you checked you get reliable and even flow through all 4 panels given that you allow air in for it to drain down when turned off? I've got 5 panels very similar to yours, 1.7m x 1m each, around 75m of black irrigation per panel and glass covered on my garage roof, mine are connected together using irrigation hose fittings and although I have no visible leaks I must have a small one somewhere as I get air in the system overnight when it's turned off which can then lead to a panel getting an air lock and not flowing anything when it powers back up needing to force water through it individually to clear it. I'm only running it with a relatively small pond pump rather than via the main pool pump though, so a big pump with more flow and pressure might clear the air better. Regarding automation, other than setting a target pool temperature to decide when the valve opens do you control when the panels are active or bypassed, for example if you're running the filter after the sun has gone down or when there's bad weather? Being in the UK we get far more unpredictable summer weather than you do so I probably need to pay closer attention to automating that side of the control because I've found if I run the panels when it's really overcast or raining or at night they will actually have a cooling effect on the water returning it a couple of degrees below what came out of the pool. The way I've done my automation is with a temperature sensor in the pool, one in the solar panel water return and also one measuring the air temp inside a panel. I control it all using Home Assistant triggering the pump to start whenever the panel air temperature is 5c above pool water temp which seems to be about right to get an overall gain, it then monitors the return flow temperature and shuts off when that temperature is equal or lower than the pool temp. That all works really well to run it whenever there's heat to be gained and prevent any running when it would be actually cooling the pool. Finally do you know what the flow rate is through the system? If you know that and you know the temperature delta between pool and the returning water then you can work out the kW output of the panels and compare them against conventional pool heaters. My pump gives me ~600L/hr flow through the panels and I get around 6-7c uplift in returning water temperature on a warm UK day (23-25c and sunny), which equates to around 4kW of energy which I don't think is too bad at all effectively for free.
@LocostR1
@LocostR1 11 месяцев назад
I also think you'll still gain significantly by covering the panels with glazing of some sort, even though temperatures much above 25c (77F) are the exception rather than the norm here in the UK, I see air temperatures of 50-60c (120F-140F) inside my panels when it's sunny.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
I cannot confirm the I’m getting flow through all 4 panels, although as you said with the bigger pump I’m pretty positive I’m getting good flow through each. The maximum flow rate through the panels is around 25 GPM, I had to install a bypass to allow the pump to maintain a working flow rate of 40 GPM. My system is only active while the main pump is scheduled to run 8am-6pm, and will only activate if the sensor on the roof shows a temperature more than 9 degree F than the air temperature sensor.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
I’ll be doing another short video adding my covers to them soon. My pool is staying at 88 degrees so not needed yet.
@LocostR1
@LocostR1 11 месяцев назад
@@chrisbuildsitall Wow 25gpm is a lot of flow through those small pipes, mine's about 3gpm! I'm sure with that kind of flow air locks probably won't be an issue but easy enough to check if you wanted, just feel each panel inlet and outlet, my ones with air locks and only a dribble of water going through quickly get to about 60c and the inlet side feels warm too as it's hardly moving. OK so activation wise you're doing similar to me basing the trigger on the panel air temp, sorry if I missed that mentioned in the vid 👍 We struggle to keep our pool much above 25c in average UK summer weather, it is an above ground pool though and loses about 2c most nights so much of what we gain on most days!
@jamess1787
@jamess1787 11 месяцев назад
1/2" pex tubing is the same ID as 3/8 copper pipe. 3/4" pex is closer to 1/2" copper pipe. 3/4" pex should be 5/8" ID. So definitely very restricting. Thanks for the video!
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
According to spec sheet this pex is .485” ID, but the shark bite fittings I used are for sure right at 3/8”. I need to switch them out for ones that don’t have the insert.
@jamess1787
@jamess1787 11 месяцев назад
@@chrisbuildsitall "Back in the day" when I sold PEX, it wasn't wirsbo or the other brand: and it wasn't the "flaring" or "expansion ring" kind, diameter was definitely very restricted. As soon as you put more than one fixture on it: you could notice a serious reduction of flow. Thanks again for the videos. Glad this should be the last major iteration. Might be worth investing in some "permanent" joiners for the PEX rather than sharkbites (less chance for incompatible expansion/ O-ring fatigue from the heat)
@dadsdailydineins
@dadsdailydineins 8 месяцев назад
Do you think it will work to heat up a large pool durning winter? I mean to get it up to let’s say 85 degrees? I live in Florida so winter will be about 65-70 degrees weather
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 8 месяцев назад
It’s possible for sure, but you would have to use a cover also to hold in the heat at night. Also you would need an extremely large system that could move a ton of water. During winter when we only get a few hours of good sunlight it’s almost impossible to get to 85 on a normal sized system.
@cleitonwi1
@cleitonwi1 11 месяцев назад
Helo, you dont have flow problems using 4x 1/2 pex? I calculate that I should use 4x 3/4 pex (or 9x 1/2 pex tube) to have the same water flow of 1x 1 1/2 tube.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
I do have flow issues, that’s why I used a bypass
@thespencerowen
@thespencerowen 11 месяцев назад
What iphone app is tracking temperature? Is it home assistant or something proprietary?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
I was just using note pad on my phone, recording temps from the weather app and documenting the temp of the pool with my electronic pool temp probe. I have Jandy Automation that runs on iAqualink app also.
@andrewlewis3026
@andrewlewis3026 9 месяцев назад
Are you relying on the polycarbonate to eliminate UV destruction of that pex, or does the paint provide that protection? Also wondering about chlorine’s effect on the pex. I have a salt system and if I implemented something like this I wonder if I’d need it to precede the cell.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 9 месяцев назад
Both paint and poly help with UV, but the paint is UV resistant. Always make your chlorine the last thing in the system. My cell is after the solar heaters. I keep my pool extremely well balanced so I don’t have any concerns with the pex and chlorine. Now - if your thinking of building one of these you’ll need at least 8 of these to run 2” pipe. I’ve struggled with flow rates with this setup and will be modifying it in the spring.
@Hangernade
@Hangernade 2 месяца назад
8 panels?
@ivankirkpatrick5884
@ivankirkpatrick5884 5 месяцев назад
Are the zip ties UV rated? I see so much UV damage on some but not all plastic parts. The Florida sun here is really tough on plastic parts.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 5 месяцев назад
I’m pretty sure they are not UV rated but I did paint them with UV paint… lol
@Jimminicrickettt
@Jimminicrickettt 2 месяца назад
I'm confused, you say this latest system is the best, but it's only pumping out 1 or 2 degrees above input whereas version one was steaming in your bucket! at over 110!
@Goliith
@Goliith 2 месяца назад
Much higher volume of water = more heat added to pool even if the output water is a lower temperature, while also keeping all the pipes and components are temperatures that are less damaging. As long as the water leaving the heater is at least as hot as you want the pool to ever possibly be the exit water temp doesn't really matter. What matters is the amount of energy going into the pool, IE: KW/hrs or BTUs.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 2 месяца назад
Yes. With pool heaters you want more volume at a lower temp increase. Vs large temp increase and low volume.
@tonynewswanger5759
@tonynewswanger5759 11 месяцев назад
Would slowing the flow rate through your solar panels increase water temp?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
Yes it would, but overall it’s less efficient because I need to turn the pool over a couple times a day for the pool to heat .
@tonynewswanger5759
@tonynewswanger5759 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for responding. I want to build one out of 3/4 inch copper. I’m in the heating and cooling field so it free for me when I’m doing a system changeout.
@MagneVikjord
@MagneVikjord 9 месяцев назад
No it wouldn't help. It would increase the temperature difference between input and output, but not the overall watts of energy being generated wouldn't increase.
@peaceranger7215
@peaceranger7215 11 месяцев назад
Any reason why you wouldn't use an underfloor heating tray to secure the PEX piping in position? Cost & space maybe?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
Space is the reason. I looked at those and just wouldn’t fit in the space
@DannyEck
@DannyEck Месяц назад
@@chrisbuildsitall Your video was really helpful when I built a pair of L=250' collectors. My backyard pool / climate is really similar to yours (Rocklin, CA), and after playing with layout some I found I had the best yield putting directly on the patio concrete (@10gpm: ΔT₁ = 6℉ → ΔT₂ = 10℉). The slab is a big heat src with lots of thermal mass that stays hot well after direct sunlight exposure. Definitely improves performance by adding to the 1000 W/m² from solar irradiance alone. If one has the space/opportunity, its definitely worth thinking about
@edemup44
@edemup44 Месяц назад
I wonder if the holes in your roof will leak?
@williambudiman5930
@williambudiman5930 11 месяцев назад
Can i know why you didnt close the surface of your solar water heater with glass ? As far as i know moat company that make it cover its surface with glass
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
I have poly carbonate sheets to cover it. It’s just not really needed when it’s 100+ degrees outside right now. When it cools off here I’m going to do a test of how well it heats with and without the poly sheets.
@williambudiman5930
@williambudiman5930 11 месяцев назад
@@chrisbuildsitall i will wait for it
@jeffrey9102
@jeffrey9102 2 месяца назад
Pex or irrigation hose? I thought pex but the comments are making me second guess the SoCal UV rays.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 2 месяца назад
I’m using pex with really good results. Much more durable but lower flow rate. Irrigation hose you will have repairs every year
@Tobarja
@Tobarja 11 месяцев назад
Is that a crack in the top of that T at 41:42?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
No that’s the glue. It’s grey and sometimes it looks like a crack if I’m messy and get it on the fitting .
@jamesbsa6450
@jamesbsa6450 11 месяцев назад
I 🤔 you are getting a bunch of heat loss by not having the panels covered ti keep airflow off the tubing. Can you cover and retest to show the difference for us?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
I can definitely cover them and see what type of increase there is. Yesterday we were getting 90* water from the system at the pool outlets.
@JoeyDee86
@JoeyDee86 4 месяца назад
Is that UV resistant PEX?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 3 месяца назад
I don’t think so. But sprayed it black with some UV paint
@ChrisDalacker-ru2fz
@ChrisDalacker-ru2fz 2 месяца назад
What pool controller is that?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 2 месяца назад
Jandy Aqualink RS8
@bluestreak101
@bluestreak101 11 месяцев назад
I have been thinking about making a similar setup for a basic paddling pool heater and even made a basic spiral out of black garden hose. Works very well and was getting some good hot water. Expanding your idea though I would look at running a separate pump to the pipe on the roof to run the water slowly through the system. Perhaps even a small tank to keep the loop up top always full of water so you weren't putting the pumps under too much load. The other thought would be to stop flow over night so you weren't loosing heat in the loop too.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
You don’t want to the water moving slow, it will pick up heat but you won’t move enough water to effectively heat the pool up (unless it’s a small body of water). My system drains when ever the pump off. I only run 9am to 6pm. It really isn’t much stress on the pump since it’s only going up 8 feet.
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 11 месяцев назад
Running slow has actually been an issue for him, because plastics are a poor conductor to start with letting it build up heat in the system just causes it to overheat and the soft plastic melts. With a high water flow it keeps a steady cooling affect on the plastic so it is less likely to soften further.
@bluestreak101
@bluestreak101 11 месяцев назад
That’s a good point. I would say it depends on the pipe used though. The little thing I had used some pipe designed for outdoor use. From memory it was mean for irrigation so perhaps it was slightly better suited for sitting in the sun longer. My idea is to make a closed loop using a solar pond pump with a heat exchanger of some sort.
@thespencerowen
@thespencerowen 11 месяцев назад
Instead of using square tube (which looks like a stolen stop sign stand). Why not use solar panel brackets to attach it to the roof?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
I have some solar panel brackets, they would of taken up too much space unfortunately.
@spitdog351
@spitdog351 11 месяцев назад
How many gallons of water in your pool?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
Just over 13,000 gallons
@rhunnicutt4u
@rhunnicutt4u 11 месяцев назад
What was wrong with build 3?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
Only issues with build 3 were not enough volume going through the system, I couldn’t run the pump at full pressure, if I would of built it a bypass like I did in this new system and used 1.5 plumbing it would of been great.
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 2 месяца назад
Temperature difference is meaningless without knowing the flow rate. A candle flame will burn you but take a million years to heat a pool! Temperature is only one axis of energy content of a substance - need volume and specific heat capacity too! Based on insolation of 1kW per square meter and guess 80% heat collection efficiency, then with a 3.5 x 2 m roof, that should give a rough peak of 7kW x 80% = 5.6 kW. Assuming no shade, Integrating 8 x 3kW over a day could yield about 24 kWh. This is enough to raise temp of 16,000 US gallons by 0.6 °F, or 60 tonnes by 0.33 °C per day. Sounds comparable to your results.
@richh9904
@richh9904 3 месяца назад
Pex pipe is not solar ray safe.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 3 месяца назад
No it’s not, but a little UV paint will go a long ways.
@stevemummey3163
@stevemummey3163 11 месяцев назад
Curious why not just paint a section of the pool floor black? That requires no piping or pumping, and is always available for heating the water?
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 11 месяцев назад
More work for way less benefit.
@natespencer4865
@natespencer4865 11 месяцев назад
​@@chrisbuildsitall😊2rx0e😊v
@timothyhall963
@timothyhall963 3 месяца назад
You'd increase your heat gain exponentially by connecting all your coils in series so flow has to travel all 1000 ft
@clwilli
@clwilli 3 месяца назад
yes, why would you not do that...
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 3 месяца назад
No you wouldn’t. Although the water would be hotter, I would only be moving a few gallons a minute and would make almost no temperature change in the pool. I can move about 30-40 gallons a minute with having the setup I have with a smaller temperature increase. 3 week of April and we are at 80* already.
@Keifsanderson
@Keifsanderson 10 месяцев назад
I appreciate you making the video, but I've got a question (this is for 3rd party viewers). Why did you use 1.5" downstream of the panels? If you're feeding the panels from 2", I would have thought you'd want 2" on the return. I know you recognized the (4) 1/2" pex panels were causing a restriction, so you put the bypass in, but you're bypassing back to the undersized 1.5" return, so while you may be mitigating one source of restriction, you're still choking your pump. By the way, PSI on your filter is bad. It is resistance to flow. Ideally you want as low a PSI as possible.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 10 месяцев назад
The idea behind the 1.5 return was to create some back pressure / slow down the flow through the heaters. However the flow rate through the .5 pex is terrible so it has no effect. Filter pressure is about 8psi with the solar engaged which is better than most systems (of course the bypass helps that), without solar it runs around 3 psi
@Keifsanderson
@Keifsanderson 10 месяцев назад
@@chrisbuildsitall Thanks for the reply. I recently rebuilt my pad and focused on ditching all 1.25 and 1.5" restrictions, minimizing 90 degree fittings, and eliminating Tees. Dropped my filter pressure from around 10 to 4 psi, so it's easier on the pump (less electricity and wear/tear), and it turns the pool over faster. I'd like to add a PEX solar heater, so thank you for this video. I appreciate you documenting your missteps as well as your successes. It's valuable to me.
@faridjahed
@faridjahed 10 месяцев назад
With 100 deg I think you don't need the solar heater at all
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 10 месяцев назад
Very true. That’s why I built it while it was hot out. Now that it’s cooling down out here we are gonna put this thing to the test.
@kurtbiesterfeld900
@kurtbiesterfeld900 Месяц назад
@@chrisbuildsitall I think that's the better test, when it's already hot out; to only see a small degree of temp rise for all that work & effort & cost is underwhelmingly unimpressive...I'd like to see what this thing does when you've got cool spring & fall temps as well as at night
@shooterfilmcompany6227
@shooterfilmcompany6227 10 месяцев назад
I have always been sceptical about these DIY solar pool heater projects and their effectiveness...so I built one. 300 feet of irrigation hose coiled in a rectangular loop in a black tray. Small fountain pump for the flow through of water. Panel aligned due north and permamently unshaded. RESULT AND CONCLUSSIONS A great way to cool down 300 feet of irrigation tube to match the temperature of the incoming water. A very inefficient way to warm up 40,000 litres of water to any degree over any amount of time. ie no gain. A huge waste of irrigation tube better used for...irrigation. My scepticism....Confirmed.
@chrisbuildsitall
@chrisbuildsitall 10 месяцев назад
If you build it right it would work. Small irrigation pumps cannot move enough water to heat a pool. If you built 4 units and plumbed it into your pool plumbing like a traditional solar heater like I did it would work for sure.
@Goliith
@Goliith 2 месяца назад
Sounds like a half-assed job gave half-assed results.
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