took out my 7 " today with the DJI installed. so ...for all those saying they will wait because it will get better smaller cheaper …..sure it will ! That's LIFE ! but when is it "good enough" ? when is the range far enough ?? etc etc etc I am retired and fly FPV EVERY DAY and I want every morsel of beautiful video experience NOW !!!! I am not waiting for "someday" ...I purchased extra AirModule/cameras and I will slowly convert over / build a small quiver of HD Kwads. I have been dreaming of converting a Mavic Pro to acro capability and fly out 30 minutes ...with return to home capability. we are close ! oh so close ...these are great times to be into FPV !!!!!!!
Wish I could afford to do it now AND get frostbite of it ends up being better and cheaper, but being in the process of rebuilding/upgrading my cnc big time I'll have to wait and only pick one. Glad your having a great time and yes I'm jealous...;)
You're not the only person that's thought of a mavic pro with the agility of an acro fpv quad!! Even if it dropped those 28 minute flight times down to 12 mins to compensate for the extra performance.. Would still be a huge leap!
I saw the emotion behind your experience and Its making me want to go buy it.. If I pull the trigger I'm using your links. Looking forward for your future tests on it.
ueiger CHAVES well I don’t think I would throw cash on that any day, but I saved up some money to buy the new Orqa goggles, but then these came out, so I think I’ll just throw that money on these instead
I’m so relieved. That was EXACTLY the same as my experience. JB: “It isn’t as good at analog down this road I never fly anyway.” But EVERYWHERE else it’s like flying with a freaking GoPro and half my review was say WOW. But that is just what it’s like. I’m glad you tried them on the same quad at the same time. I thought about it but just figured it would blast each other so I built the one that as you mentioned probably made someone die inside. We see you fly all the time in the same spot. That is what most of us do. And if you fly and it looks good with analog will look amazing with this.
"I can see the power lines" ,..... yep. That's something I noticed quickly with mine. It's not so much what you can see up close. It's how clear everything is far out. Funny story: When my mom got her first set of glasses, she exclaimed to her mom, "There's lines between the poles!"
Great video. I think you nailed my gut feeling @13:25, nobody has years of experience flying a digital system with variable latency, whereas all the reviewers have had years to lean how to fly through the analogue limitations.
This might be some of your best work. Your testing is fantastic and your honesty is refreshing. I love the monologue at the end. I’m with you this is changing the hobby in a great way. Keep up the awesome work.
I agree with you on having to trying them out. Drew came home to Detroit and let me try it out. Flying fpv in Hd is crazy i could see everything in such detail . I love it! It's Progress ! Thanks for the Review !
I think your review truly hit the topic right in the gut. The ability to have real time, fair weather hd is incredibly up there, game changing! But there are practical limitations to ones full adoption of it *in certain niches* . And again, the changing latency can be a critical crutch in high proximity, tight areas where any change is fatal to the kwad. That being said, imagine this on a flying wing! Or high altitude cruiser!
Bought mine on release day as well. I have no regrets! I’m up in NH (similar countryside) and the HD truly is like flying again for the first time. I actually like how we have access to the latency and mbps on the DJI system. If I see the latency jump I just know to rope in any quick movements I might make.
Definitely my favorite & go to channel for FPV, i really appreciate the live Q&A sessions & especially all the helpful videos your channel offers. It shows that your passionate and genuinely care about your audience and subscribers. love the content you create mate. 👍👍
I love this review. You covered the issues that you actively experienced using it, and slowed down to demonstrate it. After watching five other review videos, you were the only person who gave me the insight to know that this system will work for me in the conditions I'm actually going to use it in :)
YAY I feel like you're finally starting to understand my viewpoint on FPV and analog quads, and it makes me feel like i'm not alone, lol. I've been flying a Phantom 4 for medium distance cruising/exploring with the Goggles RE (that I love, even though you didn't) - and flying in HD FPV with full 2 axis head tracking - being able to look around with the goggles and see in any direction you point your head, is so surreal, you start to forget you're flying R/C ! Same thing when I fly my airplanes and wings with Occusync Air. To go from that experience, to flying a Tiny Whoop with a 25mW VTW in analog is... jarring! It feels ... antiquated. Limited. Until I start flying my Tiny Whoop through dining room chairs and things like that. Then I remember the feeling of being miniature. And it's OK again. But to fly an analog 5"? Well, the 5" felt like it had neither of those aspects. This new system could get me interested in flying 5" again. Too bad I can't use my Goggles RE with it and save a ton of money...
Josh, You are 120% correct on the addiction of flying FPV with this HD goggles and I'm 200% agreed with you that. I have two of the DJI Air units on my 5-inch quad now and let me tell you. I just don't want to put on my Fatshark with Rapidfire any more. That's is a big difference on my part that to just want to fly with HD goggles because like you said I can see every tiny object very clearly when I fly. That what makes me want to fly HD more. U da man, Josh!!
do you ever feel held back by the 'higher' latency of the DJI Digital FPV? Do you feel like the DJI Controller holds you back at all? I heard the sticks feel loose.
I fitted DJI FPV to my Source One and took it out to the local track. The frequencies don't match regular FPV so I flew between races. It's not clear to me which raceband frequencies impact which DJI frequencies. Unlike analogue where you get ghosts and interference, if someone plugs in on an overlapping or nearby frequency you get a complete video freeze, and lose control because the controller is on the same 5.8GHz video frequency. In one case my quad spun inverted into the ground at full power unrelated to control inputs, and the disarm took a second or two to respond. That loss of control could be really dangerous, not to mention digging unnecessary holes into the ground. None of the above is unexpected after reading about the system, and I absolutely LOVE the quality of the video. My experience did however confirm for me that the DJI system is not yet practical near a normal race track. Even if compatible frequencies can be worked out, it might be worth sticking with crossfire for the controller, so you can push through a second or two of bad video without the drone going mental, and you can disarm it if it does. I am totally happy with the system. The video quality is truly amazing and really helped my flying, and I'll be saving that for freestyle until the frequency overlap problems are resolved. This is new technology and DJI are pushing regular updates, so this amazing system is only going to get better. For racing though I'll stick with my Crossfire and Unify VTXs.
why is everyone judging the dji system by its weakest point.. the latency.. just use it how you are already use analog (basically right next to you) and BOOM.. it’s 10x better.. the added range (at the cost of latency) is just a bonus for people flying long range or whatever. At its core it’s almost identical to our analog systems except High Def and even faster than most analog cam/vtx setups.. is it worth the pricetag? That depends..
Watch the test carefully. The analog system and the DJI system have similar maximum range, but the analog system maintains low latency to the edge of range, while the DJI system starts to falter at perhaps 75%. In addition, the DJI system's changing latency can catch the pilot out and cause a crash if it happens in a very technical location. On the flip-side, the DJI system is absolutely glorious when flying in HD, and it is really like seeing FPV for the first time again.
Joshua Bardwell yeh I noticed in your test that was the case but you live in the boonies where analog prosper lol DJI’s anti interference characteristics didn’t get a chance to shine! Also My point was If you use it for normal close-medium range freestyle (like how we use analog most of the time) there won’t be a noticeable change in latency.. sounds like a lot of positives to me!
Imagine walking down the road and all of a sudden a drone passes you going down the road like it’s just out for its daily walk 😂😂. If that happened to me before I got into quads I would be flabbergasted lmao
its a really hard comparison. because even though you can go farther on analog i rather go half the distance maybe even 25% of the difference in HD. To me i would be fine having an analog rig and an HD rig. Your not going to drop your gear anyway since you need it for whoops and micros. Why worry about whats better when you can just have both. Its like choosing between a 5" and a micro, why not just both. If you can only afford one i think you should still go analog especially for new pilots who tend to have heavy crashes that could potentially damage the HD system that we dont know about yet.
Thanks for video, very useful. I watched many videos of test about DJI FPV and I'm suprised that no one tried to change with other LHCP antennas....For sure, it should affect latency with some patch antennas. It will be useful to try it and know the result, I guess.
I really enjoyed this video. The laid back, thinking out loud, Joshua Bardwell was very insightful. Thank you for doing this test and thank you for all your help through the years!
We can see clearly in your video Joshua :-) DJI digital system for racing drones is a point of change in the hobby. I guess very soon everybody will race using digital.
Thank you very much. Could you strap your two systems to a bicycle and try your side by side comparison again? Stingerswarm told about screen freezes and dropped frames. That might be a better way to visualize it. Or maybe go to a complex bando and try to fly the same line several times on both systems? Anyways thanks again and keep your good work up. I like the ambiguity, I think it adds credibility to your opinion.
That internal conflict monolog with the 5 seconds latency flux bit. That really gave me a good idea off the feeling of flying the digital system vs analog! Thank you !
Great to have a completely unbiased review, not calling anyone out, but a lot of the other people that got review units seemed to not focus on the downsides very much and kind of sounded like dji fanboys. I might have missed it, but none of the other reviews ive watched touched very much or not at all on the fact that the latency got funky at long range
I forget what analog 25mw would do, but I accidentally made my first runs with the DJI on 25mw,...… it sucked. You can see those results on this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rt4r9NeWsJk.html Versus you never see a hesitation/fast-forward on my videos after that.
@@kwboost yeah the thing is... with analogue in the EU I can still fly 200mw or more if I want. Mostly I'm flying at 200mw. The DJI system won't let me unlock to higher rates. So basically it's useless when flying freestyle. Not sure how the FatShark system will deal with that but if it is not locked or able to unlock then that might be a better option at the end. Depending on how it performs of course. Right now I'm waiting to see more results and till the FS is released officially. Not buying a DJI set.
Another great and insightful look at a new product. Thanks Joshua! I look at it this way, as good as the gen 1 looks, imagine what gen 2 or even 3 will perform like. I'll hold out for the later gens.
Hey josh been a fan for a while. I have to say thanks. Just for the honest opinion. Love the honesty in your vids, and will of course be waiting for more. Again m8 thanks.
Thank you, Joshua, for a great breakdown and a very honest appraisal. I do believe this system might be successful in the USA but here in Europe it will be a very good expensive novelty. By this I mean the EU version will be hard limited to 25milliwatt, even for those of us with an exemption to run higher power. It maybe possible to bypass this restriction using a VPN when connected to the DJI Assistant but its an app expensive maybe. If you get the opportunity to do a test of the DJI system on 25milliwatts it will be of great benefit for those of us in the EU to see the real, or lack of, performance. Regards Nidge.
Can you test the goggles with a clearview to see how well it works? Im interested in buying the DJI system but want to make sure I can fly my quads that don't have the air unit in them with the DJI goggles. thx
Joshua this is the Equivalent to the first iPhone. Flip phones at the time we’re better in many ways. Nokia blackberry Motorola they all said the same thing too many negatives no I don’t want it. All three are gone. I think the key is the emotional feeling of HD and it will just get better.
When other companies weigh in on the HD FPV scene it'll be like Apple vs Android, DJI vs everyone else, so bring on the other future HD systems because I'm happy with my Android phone as it has features the iPhone doesn't, like a 10,300mAh battery (I charge it at most twice a week). nearly 300gb storage (64gb internal, 256gb micro SD), and structural strength good enough to smash walnuts and bang nails into wood, with the screen...
first few seconds in the vid and i already know why this video will be awesome: the sparks in your eyes. when you find something to spark your curiosity, what better cause could there be for a video? great, excited to watch on now ;)
Probably need a release 2 to make the decision to send the analog fpv system to the history but the step hahead is huge. I can understand your emotion because if I wear contact lenses I see a different world. As soon as possible I wanna fly HD. Thanks Joshua.
Nice video👍. In europe i can’t see this working. 25mW has hardly any range. You get breakups already after 300ft. Nice system and a Nice experience but for europe???
Please test the FOV with them in 4:3 vs 16:9. I get that 16:9 is cropped but I feel like i'd personally prefer the immersion of widescreen to a slightly increased vertical FOV, depending on how bad it is.
Greetings from Mexico and I am one of those who like the best possible image but if I agree that if you start using these dji and then you will not want to use the traditional ones since the difference in image but ... it will not be good wait for future corrections in some of the problems that arise and especially reduction of the size of the vtx so to speak. Greetings and excellent video.
Its interesting to think about that the look of the location you are flying could cause video quality to change. Fly around a solid colored room vs flying through a crazy graffiti-ed bando. Different Bit rates are needed. Assuming it uses normal HD compression stuff.
Don't think they do compression actually, it would reduce latency quite a bit... Also at 11MBit/s you would get a much better picture quality than JB got @ 9:52 if it was compressed. At least with something like mpeg4/h.264, they possibly compress each frame (like MJPEG).
At the worst blur it is still clearer than a pristine analog signal. With this system you can actually see further than analog. It gives you a much higher level of confidence when flying. Have you had a chance to fly it yet?
I believe the image quality is most important.. thus the DJI digital is the best. I don’t mind flying at open places or at higher altitude and get a cinamatic high quality image, thus of much important to me. Thanks for the video.
Please use Pal for the same test. Ntsc is horroble because the whole picture collapses all the time, while Pal just gets more and more noisy. Compare and tell everyone please.
I hope Fatshark don't give up, for now Welcome DJI. Finally a digital system, so long time waiting for this. Digital revolution start at 1990 come on......The next semester will be pretty interesting I think (competition!!! :D )
I don't know if DJI would do this or not, but I feel like they could come up with a lot more settings to allow a pilot to adjust how they want the signal to degrade. I know they have some already, but like a super advanced secret menu for crazy people or something :) They could potentially allow a pilot to lock the latency at say 35ms and let the video get really bad or allow others to set the system to have high latency but the picture almost never degrades. Maybe a black and white mode if that uses less bandwidth? Anyway, curious to see what they do with firmware updates in the future.
I think the most important point is the one he made about not going back to SD. Once you have had a 60'' HD TV who wants to go back to a 24'' SD TV? As far as lag this is an issue but only when at extream ranges that depends on how often you fly out far. For some people who do lots of long-range stuff, this will be a show stopper. But for people who spend much of the time within 500m, it will not be an issue.
Thanks Joshua for the detailed video 👍was the best video so far for knowing more bout this system and if it's really a good choice to buy if I got the money or just wasted time
It's 2019... About time. Would be nice if everyone else stepped up their game a little bit, seems inevitable. Then again there's been higher end video systems available.. we will see.
10:27 Your neighbour looked a bit intimidated... ;D Hope you didn't get in trouble, I was under the impression your neighbours should know by now what's going on. (because of the loud things popping up over your trees pretty frequently... xD)
Hi Joshua. Thx for the really logical and correct test. So, I didnt see any "black screen" moments or freezing moments in the DJI system, and its really nice. It is better to see blocky-picture, but still stable and normal latency. In this case u can be sure about u wouldnt have any "total" destructions of ur picture. To my mind, obviously:)
If you fly any system to the edge of its range, it will failsafe somehow. I have never once seen a black screen or had a lock-out, as long as I kept an eye on my bit-rate and RSSI. Once bit-rate gets down to like 3-5 Mbps at 1 bar of RSSI, you start getting sketchy. At that point, if you keep flying, you are risking failsafe. If you turn back, things seem to be okay.
I'm glad DJI came out with this Hd fpv system. It will push Fatshark to do some great!! I'm not a DJI fan cause it's a closed system. But competition is good and we all win in the end "consumers".
I think this & Stingy's last video on this system combined provide the best summary for those who have not experienced it yet. I'm sitting on the fence for a while. Want to see what Fat Shark bring to the table, then I'll probably wait a year or so & wait for the tech to mature as it is still early days & to be honest, analogue works fine for what I currently do. One things for certain, we're in some exciting times of development & innovation for FPV. Its been fairly stagnent with pretty much fake hype & small but not hugely significant developments the past 3 years.
I think Stingy's video was really a worst-case scenario. I have personally never seen the latency go over 60 ms, even when pushing to 1 bar of coverage and 3 Mbps data rate.
Just remember... this is dji version 1. First release and it’s already comparable to some of the best analog systems that have been in the field for years. Give it some time and some development and within 2 years these systems will be able to compete with or even outperform current analog systems all while giving you the insane high definition experience. It seems like when you keep this system within its reasonable limits it still performs amazingly well. It’s only when you really push it that you get into trouble and that will improve quickly with time
Great video as usual. Looking forward to the next one. My burning questions about this system that I'd love to see more testing on are: 1. How does the range of the control link (when using the DJI controller) compare to Crossfire or R9M? 2. It seems like the Range on the DJI system is quite good, but the penetration is poor. Would you agree? I'd love to see more range testing comparing the DJI sytem with 5.8 and maybe even 2.4GHz analog video in different environments. It seems like the DJI system would be great for cruising around at high altitude, or long-range flights up and down mountains, but not so great for bando bashing where there is lots of concrete between the VTX and VRX. Does that seem right? 3. Kind of unrelated, but I noticed that you and a lot of the other reviewers are using the 800mW TBS Unify VTX, and comparing the DJI system with that. There are higher output 5.8G VTXs available like the RDQ Mach 3, or the AKK FX2 Ultimate. Is there some reason people still like the lower power TBS VTX? Is there some TBS super unicorn magic that I'm missing out on? I'd love to see some range testing of the DJI (and the 800mW TBS) vs. a 1.2W 5.8G VTX. Next video? Thanks for doing what you do!
1. The range of the control link is MUCH shorter than Crossfire. In this video, Crossfire never went below 95% LQ. This is at 250 mW. I'm not using the DJI controller, but the reality is that there's no way any 5 GHz system could compete with a 900 MHz system for range. 2. Penetration and range are the same thing. You have attenuation through free space. You have attenuation through obstacles. In rare cases, some obstacles have more attenuation at some frequencies, but in general, a link that gives good penetration will also give good range in free space. 3. I'm using the Unify here just because it is considered the gold standard of analog vTX. So it makes the comparison the most fair it can be. In the United States, it's not legal to use vTX over 1 Watt so you wouldn't be seeing any 1.2 W or anything from me.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for the answers. That clears up a lot. Follow up question: If you were going to build a quad around the DJI FPV system, what parts would you choose? I'm tempted to get the googles and the air unit (I'd definitely skip the controller based on what you said), but I'm not sure what kind of quad would be the best fit for this. I don't want to take the analog VTX out of my freestyle quad, since I want that range. I don't want that extra weight on a cinewhoop. I might put it into a long-range cruising type of build, but I'm worried I'll be disappointed in the range. Which quad or quads in your fleet are going to run the DJI sytem on, and which ones are you keeping analog?
Crazy that you are the first person to put both systems onto a quad. This was the first thing that occurred to me, and I was like - alright I guess we gotta wait for Joshua cause I know he's gonna do it proper. Edit: Oh... LOL
I havent tried the DJi fpv yet, but from the videos it seems to come down to what type of breakup you prefer. Visually i would prefer the dji. But the varrying latency could be annoying, but only if its at close range. Freestyle tends to happen at somewhat close range, 200-300 meters max, anything beyond is more crusing-style, so i'm not sure if the varrying latency really matters. For the analog+dji at the same time, you could try adding extension cables to the antennaes to avoid them interfering too much with each other.
Bro.. thank you for doing this review. I'm more of a casual FPV fan and by that I mean I just cruise with my Bugs 3 Pro with a go pro and Turnigy L250 5.8ghz receiver setup. Since i'm not a stunt pilot in the slightest the DJI setup is ultimately what I'm looking for. I want good range with clear video while I cruise the sky. Analog works but boy is it ugly at pretty much any distance. For people like myself who just want to survey the country side and take in the sights it's perfect. For the pros out there where precision is priority it might not make sense yet. I'm impressed with what DJI have accomplished on a first gen product. I'm sure it will only get better. Thanks Again.
there are different types of analog my friend, you can't lump them all together. usually people specify the frequency when they talk about analog. additionally by running them both together one might interfere with the other one.
I agree on the latency thing, when you're flying a craft through analogue FPV, the delay between moving the sticks and you seeing the result of that movement is fixed, once that delay gets randomly messed with you'll start to fly more cautiously. I've noticed this with my current setup, I need a better VRX like RapidFire and a better RC system like CrossFire, because I can feel the reduced range where it could randomly failsafe, is holding me back.
love your vids Joshua, I almost bought this thing but glad I didnt. Glad because I knew I would fall in love with clarity then fall in a rutt . High end coffee example is spot on.
Good review. But one thing I don’t understand is why no reviewers mention that as you change the latency setting on the goggles, this picture quality changes. With low power mode on you get about 60ms of latency and the picture is amazing. But if you turn low power off and get 28ms latency the picture quality goes down drastically
I never flown analog and I cant wait to test DJI FPV air. I do come from HTC vive experience so I am assuming DJI FPV is not gonna impress me. My first build is Kakute F7 HDV / Tekko 32 35A 4in1 / DJI FPV air. Thank you for all your videos not only as educational but inspirational as well.
I think the dji is great for top guys who fly drones for a living . Just not practical or a need for the everyday joe . Can’t wait to see what my son will be flying in 20 years! Great video 🤙🏻
The DJI system got a lot of hate on stinger's channel, even I left a little skeptical. (Lots of blah, blah, X,Y,Z was paid by DJI ty Stinger!) However I was looking forward to your no BS review of the system to be sure, the DJI system looks fantastic. I think there are some situations where analog may have an edge in freestyle flying. However 99% of the time the extra clarity with hardly any breakup would vastly increase your confidence level.
Glad the orqas are on their way . Happy DJI has made a significant contribution to the industry, but we can wait until there's more development and progress.. my two cents ..
U the man bro...i learn so much from u its crazy...i told u i watch u everyday and i have learned so much from u...thank u bro for teachin me about fpv 💪💪💯
Josh, so glad to hear your thoughts on the DJI unit! Better vision is certainly in the future of FPV. I have had that same "flying like a bird" experience with my Connex Falcore & the Vuzix 1080p goggles - amazing to fly with! and face it, analog feeds suck, digital video could easily become a strong contender for our current methods and I hope it happens soon.
The DJI system is Part 15 certified which means you do NOT need a ham license to use it legally. Most people flying FPV don't have a ham license anyway, but if you actually care about the law, the DJI system has that going for it.
I wrote DJI about the HDMI out. There is a "box", but it doesn't appear to be for little people. I encouraged them to make it available even if it was expensive. They at least responded. Quite impressed with their response times and relevant answers. Here's the first response: Thanks for contacting DJI. We are grateful to assist you with your concern. So sorry that we did not receive the notification about the HDMI function. As we know, we only provide the "Live box" to live games, but you need to please provide the information below. Our colleagues will evaluate your application if can offer a Live box to a sponsor in the competition. Event party The name of the game: Region: Place: Time: Sorry for the inconvenience caused and your understanding is highly appreciated. Any further question, please feel free to contact us. We're always here to help. Thanks for choosing DJI. Have a nice day!
i think i'm completely sold on this, by the time i have the spare cash maybe there will be some kind ofground station that just rocks the world, you have to bear in mind i use an eagle micro and ev800d's, and i'm already extremely distracted by how beautiful it all looks, slow proxy with the eagle in the woods is just a mystical experience, if i get the dji set up......
It looks amazing. I'm stoked that low-latency digital FPV is finally becoming a reality. Hopefully Fatshark's Byte Frost will be just as good, if not better, at a more reasonable price point and allow the DIY'er to overlay the same type of OSD info we find on iNav.
I know 1.3 would have antennas that are too large for small quads but 2.4 analog video would be perfect with crossfire and would give much better results than 5.8 especially with a directional antenna on the goggles/ground station.
Problem number one. Not everyone can even find another pilot without having to drive 3++ hours to "try out" something new like this. Secondly your great at getting people to wanna instantly pull out their credit cards without hesitation lol. Your great at selling a product. Super hard to just "try them" don't wanna buy til I try
For fixed wing get the DJI Occusync video system you can port video and controls over the link it probably also little less expensive. Occusync has slightly more delay than this system (which is fine for fixed wing) but massively more range because able to change channels on the fly seamlessly to avoid interference and supports higher quality live video. Downside being u can’t use these googles and it isn’t as complete of a system. I terms of range this system is only rated for about 2 miles in clear open air, maybe able to get little more. But occusync the rated range is easily beatable the biggest limitation I run into is battery. I taken my mavic pro out 4.1 miles and back on a near suicide run, the entire time crossing open water until last mile on the run out.. and had 4/5 bars signal even orbiting the water tower which is also a cell tower.
do you ever feel held back by the 'higher' latency of the DJI Digital FPV? Do you feel like the DJI Controller holds you back at all? I heard the sticks feel loose.
I don't fly with the DJI controller but it's a good controller and I don't think the sticks feel bad. The latency of the DJI system can be felt if you fly back to back with a very low latency analog system. But you know what else is different with DJI? Your ability to see where you're going. And that goes a long way to making up the difference in latency.
I'm tempted to buy this but... 1. I don't want to be forced to buy the goggles. Last year I bought the Fatshark HDO's and love them. I want to be able to use them for the HD stuff if possible. 2. Form factor: this is huge in my book. The Byte Frost's look like they might improve mightily on that. 3. Cost. Did I mention the goggles? Also, what if I just need to replace the camera? Buying a whole new air unit when I just need the camera is not the way I care to roll. 4. I get that the image quality in the goggles is much better and I look forward to that at some point in the future but in the end analog get's the job done. Pretty well too in my book I might add. I should note that up to this point I haven't even been flying analog at over 200mW so I've still got room to grow in that respect.Thing is that since pretty much every flight I take has a go pro attached to the quad I get to see ultra sharp video of my flights anyways. So long as I can see things while I'm flying and not crash into them then all is good in my book. The rest is just aesthetics so far as I'm concerned. The only big benefit I see in having an ultra crisp video feed in the goggles is to be able to tune the quad more effectively but since that takes up a fraction of my overall flying time it is just not a big deal to me. So in sum, for now I'm just going to stick with the old cliche: "Patience is a virtue."
