@@alexandersorto7411 if you are in the US it is important to look at the new FAA requirements coming in September of this year and make sure the drone you are using has a transmitter to meet those new requirements
Hey there Dylan. Top notch review of this new drone. You covered just about everything and I am now contemplating acquiring this drone for my business. Great content and great educational video!
@@DylanGorman I can certainly see why, and based on your in depth review, I have to agree with you 💯 %. I have not looked at pricing, but based on your comments in your video, it sounds like it is well priced for its capabilities. It is great to see the progression in technology DJI is coming out with in these Mavic 3 Enterprise drones! I can see this replacing my two Phantom 4 Pro drones quite nicely... Thank you again for the great video!
@@HOODTOURS for my kit I paid just about $5000 for the drone, rtk hat and 3 extra batteries. I already owned the D-RTK 2 base station but if you don't own that you can use your states NTRIP network if they have free access to it. At minimum you could spend $4200 and be off to the races!
Not only the best review I could find but you also inform important facts about accuracy and important features to perform well with your clients. I could not be more pleased thank you!!!!
Good if you were to walk through the rtk 2 base station set up and how to Properly locate it for those of us that live in states with no free RTK access line Texas.
I third this, very interested im the inner workings of the RTK workflow. Thanks again for all the effort you put into replying to everyone. Solid work and very inspiring. I requested a connect on linkedIn as well.
Great video, Dylan. A few thoughts wearing my Certified Drone Mapping Scientist hat… there is a BIG difference between the camera positional accuracy and absolute positional accuracy. The 0.1 ft positional accuracy reported only applies to the location of the drone camera NOT the accuracy of the orthomosaic. You would need to use a few check point GCPs to verify the positional accuracy of the orthomosaic, but it is still NOT survey grade unless a licensed surveyor stamps the product as such. All that being said…. Awesome Video!
I appreciate the correction. I know all these things can get complicated and having the background that you have certainly helps. RTK really is a game changer overall and I hope can push the industry into generating better quality maps!
oh, made my day by saying that Ohio has the RTK network. I knew I should've picked it up when I got my M3T last week. Drove about 4 hours to get it one way, at least I can order the RTK, I didn't want to wait on the drone
Hey Dylan, great presentation. Could you provide the individual images from the M3E, so we can run it through some other free or almost free software? I believe a solid understanding of CAD and GIS fundamentals would be a huge plus for those entering Photogrammetry and General Mapping. Coordinate systems, map projections, and different datums and geoids can be confusing when working across the country or even state to state. Only Rami T can speak of absolute accuracy with his extensive background as a surveyor. Dylan, be very careful if you do work in North Carolina. The best FREE GIS software to use with these different files types is QGIS. It has really come a long way in the last 15 years and is available for most operating systems including Linux. Cheers.
Fantastic rundown on the system Dylan. Very well put together! I’ve just picked up the RTK2 base station to use with the Inspire 3 primarily for repeatable move accuracy on film sets and photogrammetry for VFX. Looking forward to learning more about the system. Shame you’re not in the UK as I would’ve signed up for your workshop! All the best!
So CloudCityDrones has the M3E for about $4600 (with the battery bundle) and the RTK module (not base station) is an additional $709. The RTK bundle with base station, RTK module and tripod is about $9100. The M3E Thermal is about $6,600 but I can’t find if you can add the RTK module to the thermal version or if you would ever want this? Is the extra 2K for thermal camera worth it for a startup mapping company or would the full RTK bundle be the best choice? Also, do you plan on having any Texas stops on your upcoming tour? Specifically the Austin area?
RTK module works on the M3T as well. I don’t know if the extra 2K is worth it but then again I don’t do anything with thermal yet. I would suggest focusing on one part of the market before dumping money into 2 different systems and operating in multiple markets without much experience at all.
I have a M3T with RTK and there is a thread where I am posting on the DJI forum under the Enterprise 2 thread (because there is no enterprise 3 thread). The 3T's thermal camera isn't very good at all, and it only shoots in JPG, not RAW. The photos are not good. I did a map using FlightHub 2 with the M3T and it came out terrible (blurry)
I just bought the Mavic 3 (standard) to start my drone business and then DJI released this drone, I kinda wish I had bought this instead, it would have been so much more versatile. Are the batteries the same as the standard Mavic 3? If they are, I could just buy the enterprise version and not have to buy new batteries. I do wish that DJI would release the SDK for the standard Mavic 3 so that I could at least do some basic mapping. Anyways, this was a great video (as always). I also like your new video setup, it's quite an upgrade. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos, it is greatly appreciated!
Hey Seth! The batteries from any mavic 3 work just fine with this drone so you don't need to spend extra for a special "enterprise" version". I don't think DJI will ever release the SDK for the regular mavic 3 drones as they want you to pay for the Enterprise since it already has the SDK out. It is unfortunate but there is not much we as consumers can do about it.
@@DylanGorman That's great, at least I can use the standard one for photography and video and then upgrade later on to the enterprise. Does the enterprise one have the same overall image and video quality as the standard version?
Does the RTK module on the drone work if my state does not have an RTK network (OR DOES NOT MAKE IT AVAILABLE - Texas!) and I don't have a base station?
Dylan, great content. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to help us other pilots along. Do you have a video or area on your website where you share the gear you use or mobilization equipment, like we see on your tailgate in this video? I am looking to upgrade my operations for the field and I am sure you have gone through many trial and error periods to know what works best and most efficiently. Much appreciated.
This is so cool! I have been a land surveyor for many years and would rather do drone work. Thank you for sharing your info! I'm wanting to learn how to get the clients and set up jobs and prices.
@@DylanGorman I watch your video for the third time. Luke how you use the dronedeploy link to showcase your product. Do you sell this drone with the base station at your company and where can I buy it. I bin in the mapping for 10 years this year and started my drone company and would like to buy this drone. I'm from the Caribbean which is one hour by plane from where I live. If you does do training I would also like to know as well
You make great content. I'm a Data Scientist who is doing increasingly more drone work and learning to fly drones autonomously. It'd be cool to hear more of your thoughts regarding how Machine Learning and other models can proliferate your work. As a person using drones more and more, I'll be using these videos to sharpen my understanding of the problem scope, and how I can tackle them too
@@DylanGorman Ironically, the capstone project I'm working on now touches slightly on point clouds and Neural Radiance Fields, as well as using reinforcement learning for autonomous drone operation. Perhaps we'll overlap and discuss more down the line.
Thanks for the great explanation! Enjoy watching your content, although I'm kind of priced out of the market for this kind of thing, it's inspiring to see what I could do if I put my mind to it.
Hello Dylan, Great video! 🔥🔥I have a question for you. Is drone photogrammetry worth it as a job? I have been looking into the field, and everything seems very difficult and expensive. So I thought I would ask your expert opinion on this. Thank you!
Odd question but with the RTK capability can you also tag videos with the RTK system or is it just eliminating the need for targets and a handheld RTK PPK system like stonex?
Dylan, Thank you so much for this video. I too am in Florida and have the M3E with the RTK module. Could you please explain how to set up the FPRN in the drone?
hey Dylan! awesome video! quick question, how do I run a mapping mission of a construction site if there is a big crane in the middle of the site? thanks!
Hi Dylan, I'm very interested in photogrammetry and currently considering signing up for a course on Pilotbyte. I was wondering if you could recommend a budget recreation drone just to learn flight basics and develop a bit of muscle memory as I have no experience flying drones. Is this even necessary when it comes to high-level drones such as the one you're showcasing? Very impressive tech. Thanks!
Yes, but if you are losing connection with your controller you are probably flying beyond line of sight because this drone has really good connectivity and long distance
I purchased a M3ET because of the thermal capabilities but wasn't aware it did not have the mechanical shutter. However would the RTK module be beneficial without having a mechanical shutter?
Can you do a video that touches on doing interesting things with 3d models? Can you for instance, import then into Unreal Engine 5? Can you create models detailed enough to post to Gaming engine asset databases? Can you build a game level using your scans?
I still get hung up by the difference between the thermal and the enterprise. I think a lot of work could the thermal but want to do photogrammetry also.
Hey Dylan, love the content - keep it coming :) Im getting into the surveying space and Im in a dilemma as to which drone to choose. Im between the Mavic 3 Enterprise with RTK hat and the Phantom 4 Pro RTK( i know this is now discontinued however managed to source a new one) Im just struggling to choose one and was wondering if you could give me an honest recommendation of your personal choice. Thanks
Sorry for the late reply. Since P4P RTK is EOL I would not recommend it plus its not getting any future support. jumping to the M3E will get you longer flight times, better quality of data and overall a drone that is smaller and quicker at mapping. No need to get old hardware.
Does it also have thermal imaging? I’m looking for a drone to help me evaluate farm land for sale in South America where they don’t really have maps available or takes forever to get surveys done. I then plan to use it to map the topography and also manage my fruit trees by detecting water needs or areas that are too hot. Am I looking at the right tool for the job, if so, out of the box or do I need more sensors?
Hi Dylan, how is the comparison with M3E vs M3 multispectral for photogrammetry? M3M has multispectral aswell which could be worth investing for a mapping service. What are your thoughts?
I think the M3M is a fantastic drone as it’s more versatile with the extra sensors compared to the M3E only having a telephoto camera as the second camera option
I am in a research group using drones to do photogrammetry. We are looking to get away from having to place ground reference points by using an RTK drone. Our group has a Matrice 300 RTK that we bought principally for flying a ground penetrating radar. We don't yet have a camera for the Matrice 300. To get RTK geotagged photogrammetry images, we are considering either buying DJI's P1 camera for the Matrice 300 or buying a new Mavic 3 Enterprise or a Mavic 3 multispectral drone. We like the portability of the Mavic 3's and they are cheaper than the P1, but we are impressed by the results of the P1 camera. Any thoughts?
Lots of thoughts on my end! P1 is great for high resolution. There is also an option to get a Sony camera that is 61mp and is about the same cost as the p1. The M3E is great for its portability and camera quality is great!
@@DylanGorman Thanks for the thoughts. I had a chance to see the P1's smartOrtho mode in action this past week and was really impressed. But I just love how small and portable our non-rtk Mavic 3 we also have is. I think we'll end up going with a RTK Mavic 3 just because it is so easy to bring everywhere. If ever you get a chance, a comparison video of the P1 versus the Mavic 3 Enterprise would be very helpful.
That’s a dinosaur of a drone haha! You’ll get ok results with that drone but if you want to take it serious I’d consider upgrading to anything that’s come out in the last 2 years.
Hi Dylan, great video. Had a question regarding RTK and using Florida’s free service….is the Florida’s NTRIP network more accurate compared to a mobile station like the D-RTK2? And for pure mapping, would you recommend the Mavic3 Multispectral or enterprise? Thank you
The FPRN and D-RTK2 are relatively close in accuracy. For pure mapping I would look at the M3E not the M3M unless you are wanting to get into agriculture!
Hey guys quick question, If I buy a combo with a dji rc instead of the rc-n1 controller at I still capable of using maps pilot pro? Thank you in advance
So I am in Arkansas and tere is NO RTK available. Without the bast station I wont benefit at all from this drone over an Air2S (other than mechanical shutter) ?
So you have 2 options for RTK. Either you can access it through your state (which sounds like they don't have that option), or you can purchase the D-RTK 2 base station from DJI (yes I know it is pricy) and you'll be able to produce RTK based drone maps. In the video I used the D-RTK 2 base station even though I could have accessed my states RTK network for free, however I wanted to generate a result anyone could do if they used the same setup as mine.
@@DylanGorman thanks for the response. That’s kinda what I figured. I’m just not starting to look at all do this stuff and just trying to learn as much as I can.
Hey Dylan can you help me out I just purchased the Mavic 3 cine before watching this video little disappointed on my eagerness but lesson learned because I want to do photo gametry and from what I gather it's not a good platform if that's the case. Can the Enterprise version video quality still there without the prores because I would like to use it for video possibilities as well?
Hey Dylan I was hoping you could tell me, do I need a land surveying and mapping license to conduct drone surveying and mapping in Florida? Thanks in advance for your help
You don’t need a land surveying license to conduct drone maps as a service. But if you were to claim that they are survey accurate then you can get into hot water with that. Know and understand the terminology before going to market to avoid that.
Just curious, how is that acurracy calculated? How do you know you are x mm wrong, and if you know that, why not change the model x mm? I can understand that better gnss acurracy, will help with processing speed, but at the end of the day it is still image stitching and calculations, in other words: filling gaps, the drone didnt actually measure from
So the base station that the drone receives its "corrections" from is how the accuracy is measured. The base station gives its exact postion where the drone is relative. The base station then will tell the drone where its actual position is, the only reason its not perfect with zero margin of error is just due to it being in constant movement. If you were to use GCP's to correct the position accuracy then thats how a shift in x mm happens. You can't just move it without knowing where to move it to if that makes sense.
Nice video. I’ve tried using drone link with property scanning and I’m trying to figure out where to take all the photos from my scan and put them into a 3d model, however I don’t have the most money to spend on all the good programs out there. Any suggestions for a cheap program that can put together these scans? As of right now I’m a hobbyist but I plan to take this more seriously in the future.
You will need to connect to a base station in order to achieve that. The model is required to get the accuracy. However there are free ntrip services in some states within the US that you can connect to for free to get the cm level of accuracy
The only difference you get between RTK and non RTK is geographical accuracy. So if you think you don’t need geographical accuracy then you can save a few thousand dollars on the RTK setup side of things.
@@DylanGorman I'm in Florida so the RTK is only $700 for the reciever and I can use the Florida Permanent Reference Network. My question was more to "If you have an RTK enable M3E, what would be the next step up for photo quality&accuracy, or is it not really needed unless you get to a job where you need like that phase 1 camera?
@@sharroff1 I understand what you were asking now. I think if you needed more image quality then you jump to the M300 drone and pair with with either a P1 from DJI, a Sony A7R4 setup or go all the way to the Phase One for extreme resolution. Other than that your GPS accuracy will be pretty much the same between both platforms with RTK. You could also go the PPK route for an even tighter margin of error on your GPS accuracy but that's just an added step in the process.
@@DylanGorman Thanks for that information. I'm just a 107 looking at getting involved in mapping as a side hobby. I think finding some jobs and shooting with a 3E is the starting point then maybe move up to the M300 with a better camera if the revenue and client dictates. If you need a spare pilot around Winterhaven, FL let me know
How do you feel about the performance of that drone? Does it have a mechanical shutter system and DTK capabilities? How has your overall experience been with that drone? I’ve only had limited time flying autel drones so I’m curious as to how you like the drone
@@DylanGorman I bought it for one specific site survey and 3D mapping. It is the only drone I have ever flown so I have no other comparison. Other than the one project it has been just personal use. I do not know about the mechanical shutter but I will now investigate that. The RTK is excellent and connects to the NTRIP from everywhere I have been. The Autel smart controller acts as the base unit. It is easy to fly, long battery life, Ludicrous Mode for 42 miles an hour. I think the flight range is overstated. When I talked to them about it they said you need to attach a larger antenna to the smart controller and the range is unlimited. They have the NEST module for remote landing and charging.
@@DylanGorman A more specific run down for this Autel Evo2 enterprise with RTK, I bought the entire package. carry case, 4 batteries, extra blades, smart controller, 4 way battery charger gimbal cover and the works for the accessories including the beacon, speaker, RTK and spotlight. $4,500 The camera operation out of the box is sensitive and jerky, making smooth movements and transitions during flight for cinematic quality is difficult. However, I am certain that there are settings for sensitivity that I have not adjusted. I am interested in finding out about what it is capable of in regards to taking good video. It does have Airplane detection and tracking.
Hey Dylan, great comparison.... I retired my Inspire 2 last month and I am looking at the 3E or the 3T. It seems to me that adding the RTK mod. to the 3T would be your best value. For photogrammy you would just fly a little slower. Do you see a lot of thermal work in your network of clients ? Thanks for the great videos......
We are looking at getting into thermal work but haven't had a massive need for it just yet. I do believe that this drone it will make it more financially accessible as its a far more capable drone than the Mavic 2 series.
Hey guys, I'm struggling to get clients, does anyone have recommendations on skills they learned and practiced that brought the most success? I already survey and plan to do photogrammetry as soon as I can afford it.
You cannot use this info for survey grade accuracy without marked GCP data, as someone who is fixing all the screwed up drone issues people are dealing with those claims are complete bs
Everyone has different requirements for their accuracy. This is just one way to achieve it. I never said that it was the end all be all. GCPs are still an essential part of big projects but when all you need is a quick reference then RTK is a perfect solution.
@@DylanGorman you claim 0.05' accuracy I've checked the accuracy of multiple drone operators in Landfills, quarries, and another projects where the RMS error of the check shots are 1' +/- as a surveyor who uses drones to achieves these types of accuracies I have big issues with people claiming you can plug and play 0.05' rms error when it's just not true, the minimum accuracy claimable according to the specs for the mavic 3 enterprise sensor from DJIs own website is 0.6'
@@elijahtitone1500 Im not arguing with you that some operators don't know how to get the best accuracy out of their equipment. There is always a best and worst-case scenario. This one just happens to be a really good example of all the equipment working as intended. At the end of the day this is just a tool, it will never replace GCPs or surveyors themselves.
Why would you even bring the inspire, that drone is built around shooting Film not what your trying todo, so that just doesn't make sense, of course the mavic 3 enterprise is going to beat it.
It was a comparison with a platform that I maximized for years before I picked up this drone. Sure its a cinema drone but I used it in a commercial since and it got the job done for me for a while. Still a fantastic tool but I thought it'd be fun to put it up against the M3E
Does the mavic3 enterprice has the same features as the mavic 3? for instance the follow me option? or its soft only apply for mapping and photogrammetry and not for video creators?. To me its important that the enterprice comes with the mavic 3 features + enterprice soft