Bloody hell...I just got my wife's approval for the Mini 4 Pro at $1500 and now you're showing me a whole nuther flying experience that looks totally rad! Great videos and I love Calgary! I'm in Medicine Hat so I can appreciate the beautiful scenery!
I am stuck with same situation here in Slovakia 😂. At least we agreed to share the dron/cost with 2 other neighbours so might get away easier with extra spent on googles and controler ;-)
If you haven't pulled the trigger yet, consider getting a refurbished mini 4 pro from DJI. I've heard great things about their refurbished units, and they are often half the price.
when I recently learned that I can control my Mini4Pro with the motion controller and headset I almost pulled the trigger and bought those devices. Then I realized for just a bit more I could also get the Avata2 and fly them both with those controllers, I'll also save on $ crashing the Mini4 and destroying propellers, so I bought the whole set. I knew I'd buy the Avata2 eventually, and that would cost more in total. And I'm glad I did, flying the Avata is so much fun, flew it around the inside of my house and the outside today, so easy to control with the motion controller, once you get the hang of it. Maybe we'll eventually be able to fly the Avata with the RC2 controller too? Then just pack this and that and the thing over there depending on what flight I want to do. Fun stuff!
That's awesome, glad you're enjoying it. And I totally think you made the right decision. The Avata2 gives you a totally different experience, and you have the option to fly the mini 4 pro with the goggles.
Very good demonstration and explanation of the features. Sure makes me want a Mini 4 pro and the goggles and motion controller! I appreciate your time making this video! Tom
Loved it ! That was a great view of YYC. I used to take my Phantom 2 to Canmore & Banff. I might just have to pick up this package. FPV is so much easier now than it was 15 years ago.
I'm having trouble calibrating the goggles 2. It shows me to place them on a level surface in 4 orientations but always ends in a failure to calibrate. Any suggestions?
I have the goggles integra, but had never tried calibrating them before. I just gave it a try and it failed the first time, but the second time it worked. I also had to place them in 6 orientations. I even tried it a third time and it worked, and that time I placed the goggles so they appeared to me the same way they looked on the screen and I kind of used the antennas as a reference.
You just convinced me to buy the goggles and joystick thingy for my mini 4 pro. I use it for photogrammetry, and for that the normal RC2 is fine, but this would let me do scouting and have some fun. Love it.
Wow! I'm thinking about getting this setup, and your video explained everything that I need to know in order to get started. Next thing on my list: buy this stuff. Next thing after that: Practice, practice, practice. Thanks for making such a wonderful video.
Dang, man that was awesome.... I've never done any fpv flying so I'm sure it takes some getting used to... I'd probably get dizzy and end up falling over or something... haha Great video, brother!
My dad is getting older and was thinking this is something I could share with him that I'm sure he has never done. Is there a way to see the video inside the goggles and say a phone so I can steer and her can view?
Yes you can, I'm not sure if there's a way to connect with Bluetooth, but it's super simple with a USB cable. You'll need to have the DJI Fly app on the phone, and when you power everything up and it connects, you can then use a standard USB cable to connect the goggles to the phone. Once you've connected the goggles to the phone, the DJI Fly app should start automatically. And once the DJI Fly app is started, if it doesn't go straight to the goggles view, tap on Go Fly and now you'll see the same display on the phone that you see in the goggles.
I just got the mini 4 pro fly more combo plus. Can you make a video on how to explain to your wife that I now need fpv goggles and controller that looks like I'm flying a fighter jet.😂 Awesome video.
Haha that's awesome! And if you're thinking about getting the Mini 4 Pro, I think that's a good choice. It's less restricted because of the weight and yet it does a great job.
@@CreateandKaptivate thanks. I think that Mini 4 pro is definitely the one to get. But still undecided about this whole idea of getting a drone. Worried about all the rules and regulations. I was thinking about taking one to Europe with us on our 3 months trip next summer… maybe we should get together for coffee someday and discuss a few things?
Yeah, the rules and regulations are definitely a concerning factor. And if you are travelling, say to Europe, the rules there would have to be taken into consideration.
Got my Goggles and Motion Controller 2 and tried it out. My first impression; its fun, but will take quite a bit of training before gaining proficiency! 😅
Yeah, it's totally different experience, and definitely takes a bit of getting use to. But after a few flights I started to get quite comfortable and then it's so much fun because you can just point somewhere and go there.
There are some advantages of using the motion controller and goggles with the Mini 4 Pro over the Avata like much longer flight time and obstacle avoidance. The head tracking really got to me at first and I was minutes before ordering these products, but then I heard that obstacle avoidance is switched off during head tracking. That killed the idea of buying this. Flying forward while looking behind the drone would leave you open to flying straight into a tree or structure.
Yeah, I'm not sure why that is. You really do need to be careful, but I feel more aware of my surroundings when using head tracking because I can look around.
This is also the best learning video i have found on RC Motion2. I saw this video last month before getting the drone and now i was trying to find you back!!! Took me 3 hrs to find this video 😢
I really appreciate that you looked so hard to find this video, but it's a bit disappointing that it was so hard for you to find. Thanks again for putting in the effort 👍
I’m sure my drone, controller, and googles 3 are connected but seems as though when I push the joystick up to lift it’s spinning at the same time and descending with a slow spin, what gives?? Other than that I love it!! Will take a little getting used to but this video is great!!
Great to hear, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! As for your question, I'm not 100% sure, but I think the drone will still respond to tilting the controller when you're using the joystick. So that may cause it to rotate even if you're just flying straight up or down.
If you haven't already, try putting the drone goggles and motion controller into pairing mode all together by holding the power button on each of them until they go into pairing mode. I find that works most of the time. Otherwise I would try using the DJI Fly app.
@@CreateandKaptivate yes that definitely worked, after you paired the motion controller with the drone, I see you are using the motion controller to control the drone with the googles resting on your forehead, are those googles on or off while you’re using the motion controller? I’m starting to think it’s the motion controller? the RC2 has no issues, thanks for your replies! :)
Is there a spectator feature whereby a second person can use the goggles with head tracking (gimbal movement) but the pilot still controls the drone movement?
There is supposed to be a feature that allows you to broadcast the screen display to a second set of goggles, but that would be view only. I haven't tried it yet, but I will be getting a second set of goggles in the next few days and will be trying it out.
That's great, I'm glad you found it informative. To record the screen you have to go into the main menu, then camera, then advanced camera settings and in here you can turn on the screen record and switch record to both (aircraft and goggles) and the screen recording will be saved to the goggles SD card.
It's unfortunate the obstiacle avoidence gets disabled.. Why? TO me, when using head tacking the obsticle avoidence MAKES SENSE to have. TO make you aware that you're not looking at what you're about to fly into.
Hello, I have a simple question, I have a DJI Mini 4 Pro drone, connected to a pair of DJI Goggles and controlled by DJI motion 2, can it be controlled instead of DJI motion with a DJI Fpv 2 controller?
Where is the footage stored, pls, on the sd card or in the googles? it seems i can't take a picture now without the SD card in the gogles even if there is an SD card in the drone itself. Am I right, pls? Also by raising and lowering the controller, it does not fly up or down, I need to use the joystick, is it correct too, pls? Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From my experience the footage captured by the drone camera is stored on the drone sd card and the goggles sd card would store any screen recording. You can fly straight up and down using the joystick or by tilting the controller forward or backward and pulling the trigger the drone will fly forward and up or down depending on which way the controller is tilted.
Hi, just again question,please, how to fly forward and up and at the same time to tilt the gimbal,witj motion controller,it looks liek its not possible as Fn dial is design to change the settings not to move the camera down or up, am I right?
You may not be able to adjust the gimbal using the FN Dial while in flight. Only before takeoff, and during RTH and landing. If you press and hold the FN Dial in while you move it, it will tilt the gimbal up or down, but not while in flight, at least according to the manual. If there's no way to do it using the controller, head tracking will allow you to adjust the gimbal during flight.
Anyone know how to rotate the camera 90º with only the RC Motion 3 + Goggles 3? Feel like I've looked at every menu, hit every button and cannot figure out how to turn the camera to get vert or horiz.
Nice to see video's from Calgary! (I also live here). Always seems more interesting when it is your own hometown. I am looking at the Integra goggles right now and just deciding on what to get and when. Only fly in the ointment is the wife. She thinks it is not a good use of money - LOL.
Haha that's a familiar story, the wife doesn't always see why we NEED this stuff. 😂 I really like my Integra goggles, but one thing to consider, is there is a new Avata2 and Goggles3 coming out...I'm not sure when, but from what I've seen those goggles will be a big upgrade from the Goggles2 or Integra.
@@CreateandKaptivateI found a link taking about the new goggles etc. It is a technical link dealing with frequencies etc. and filings. (FTC filing). I have a Mini Pro 3 by the way. I am going to stay in the sub 250 class to make it easier where I can fly etc. Tried to paste the link in but it then disappears from the comments.
I've seen that video you are referring to, that's actually where I learnt about the specs for the new goggles. But if you have the mini 3 pro then you would need to stick with the goggles2 or integra.
Up until just recently I would have said no, but now with the new goggles 3 you are able to fly with the goggles using the rc2 or rc-n2 controllers. I just happen to be working up a video about that.
Mark...SUPERB JOB showing the use of goggles with the M4P! Thanks very much. I'm curious regarding the use of goggles with a drone...under FAA Part 107 I'm required to maintain continuous visual line-of-sight with my drone, and I cannot rely on the video presentation on my controller to accomplish that. How do the authorities view the use of goggles??? Any insights would be appreciated.
Hey thanks for the comment. I think the rule is, you are supposed to have a spotter. Where I'm at, the rules for micro drones are fairly relaxed, but I think ultimately you are still supposed to have a spotter.
No, it's not a problem. I get that warning because my RC2 is the bound controller, and I would actually have to unbind it from my Mini 4 Pro to bind the goggles. But instead you can just pair the goggles and you're able to use them as an unbound device. The only downside is you're limited to flying 5 times with an unbound device, but once those 5 times are up if you just power up the drone and the bound controller and allow them to connect then you're 5 times are reset.
I haven't been able to test it because I don't have 2 sets of Goggles 3 but from what I understand you would have to go into the Transmission menu on one set of goggles and turn on Broadcasting. Then go into the Transmission menu on the second set of goggles and select audience and then from there I think you should be able to see and select the goggles that are broadcasting. I think it should work the same for the mini 4 pro or the avata2 but I haven't tried it.
@@CreateandKaptivate That's exactly how it works with the avata 2. We tried it. With the mini4pro the spectator option doesn't appear. I tried everything twice with support, each time for an hour. It's not intended. The support was surprised themselves. A bit of a shame for a product that is advertised as compatible.
I see there is a motion controller 2 and a motion controller 3? What is best controller, and why is the motion controller 3 only $99 while 2 is priced over $200? Also as far as goggles, I see they offer several choices what is best goggles for my just arriving 4 pro? Thanks in advance! Dang, this hobby been getting costly, love it! This is my third drone in the past four years.....Love em! Been wanting to try the goggles out. Just have the questions above confused on controller 2 vs 3?
The motion controller 3 and the goggles 3 are the latest ones that came out with the Avata2, and the latest firmware update allows you to use those with the mini 4 pro. Currently I have the goggles integra with the motion controller 2 and I think they work great, the goggles2 are similar but the 2 goggles offer different features. Really it comes down to personal preference, the goggles3 and motion controller 3 are the latest but the goggles2, goggles integra and motion controller2 work great as well.
"that helicopter coming back. he´s not close to me anyways..." how do you know that? Do you have someone spotting surroundings for you? Flying solo when there are aircrafts or helicopters around is a big risk.
I understand what you're saying, and although there was someone there with me, I was watching the helicopter right before and it was a long ways away, and at a much higher, altitude. Unless it was coming to land where I was, it would not be anywhere close to the altitude I was at.
Flying the with the motion controller, I think the experience is very similar between the mini 4 pro and the avata2. Now if you have the FPV controller, flying the avata2 in manual mode is a very different experience. The avata2 is more protected with the prop guards and stuff, but the mini 4 pro has a 3 axis gimbal which I think provides better stabilization over electronic stabilization.
I think the goggles and the motion controller, would need to be bought separately from the mini 4 pro. There may be a combo available somewhere. I also have the avata, and with that I got the goggles and motion controller.
The RCN2 will work with the goggles3. I have also heard that you can get it to work with the goggles2 and possibly the goggles integra but I not sure how to do that.
Yeah the rule says you must keep visual line of sight, and it can't be a video feed. So if you're flying with goggles, you essentially need a spotter. I kinda get it, but most of the time I can see my surroundings better than my spotter.
Hey bro, if the mini pro 4 comes with an RC remote do you think it's worth spending the extra money on the motion controller? Thanks for the video and your thoughts.
If you want to fly the mini 4 pro with the goggles, you would need the motion controller, the RC remote doesn't work with the goggles. If you have the goggles, in my opinion it's worth getting the motion controller. I didn't have either, but I decided to buy the avata which then came with the goggles and motion controller.
@@CreateandKaptivate Thank you so much for leaving this comment and helping me. I wanted to get the avata also but due to the weight and my user case I thought it would just be easier to get the mini. Thank you again for your input! It is so valuable 🙏
Hi Mark, thanx for a great video! What distance could you fly the drone from you with the goggles and motions controller ? Would it be the same as with the RC2 ? Thank you
I really could say for sure, because I haven't tested the range with this setup. From my experience, in most cases I think the range would be fairly similar.
Hi. Nice video. Did you notice the drone oscillating in pitch axis some times? I’m having this issue with my m4p when I use motion 2 and goggles 2. Watch your video in 10:46 to hear the very characteristic sound of this issue
Yes, I have noticed that. I wonder if it is just something that happens when using the motion controller? I have flown my m4p with the goggles 3 and rc2 controller and don't recall having that issue. It's something I'll have to try out and see if there is actually a difference.
@@CreateandKaptivate In my case it happens on every single flight using motion controller 2 and goggles 2. Very annoying and turns out that the battery life decreases a lot due the oscillations. You are right… with the RC2 I could not see the same issue and it seams to fly well. I managed to reproduce the problem with motion controller 2 just by swinging up and down (I can reproduce it as many time as I want). Any time I do it, the drone oscillates like it’s going to fail soon. Could you please make a video about that? This issue is happening for many users and most think that it is normal… See the topic about it "Mini 4 pro oscillating" in DJI forum.
I didn't really notice this too much before. But now that you mentioned it, and I'm aware of it, I'll have to test it out. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks that was a great video, very helpful, just a quick question. If you are only using the goggles with the Mini 4 Pro and you bind them them does it mean i have to rebind the RC 2 controller when I next want to fly using that.
If you only pair the goggles to the Mini 4 Pro, then your RC2 will automatically connect the next time the drone and controller are powered up together. Doing that you get the warning about flying with an unbound device and after 5 times you have to just power up the drone and RC2 together to reset the counter. Now if you actually want to bind the goggles to the Mini 4 Pro, which I haven't done, I believe you have to unbind the RC2, in order to bind the goggles.
I know the googles also work with the mini 3 pro, and the air 3 I believe. But you are not able to use the RC2 when using the googles, that would be a nice option to have.
As far as I know the camera is always in landscape mode, or in the horizontal position when using the goggles. I haven't seen a setting to switch it to vertical, possibly it wouldn't work well with the goggles display.
If I buy this setup with the Goggles 2 , can I purchase a 2nd pair of Goggles 2 ? I would like a pair of Goggles for me while I fly, and the 2nd pair for my Grandson to see with me as I fly and enjoy the same experience ? Thanks !
I don't think you can pair 2 sets of goggles to the drone (to get the video feed on both goggles) Now I'm not 100% certain of that, but if that's not an option, you can connect you phone to the goggles and have it display what it showing in the goggles. I know it's not the same experience as having the goggles on, but it may be the best option available.
Can you set the action track on Mini 4 Pro using goggles 2 and Motion Controller 2?. Also, could you rotate the camera gimbal while flying with Motion Controller? I use only the Motion Controller to fly my Avata
Those are both good questions. I don't think the tracking functions are available, or at least I don't know of a way to turn them on. But as far as the gimbal, you can rotate it up and down using the scroll wheel on the controller, you just have to press it in while you're scrolling. Or you could turn on head tracking and raise and lower the gimbal by looking up and down.
Yes, if you just pair the goggles like I was doing. When you want to go back to the RC controller, you really don't have to do anything, just power up the controller and the drone and they will connect.
Unfortunately, the way it is now, if you're flying the mini 4 pro with the goggles, you can only use the motion controller. A lot of people have asked about this, hopefully we get more options in the future.
You're welcome! And to answer your question, the RC controller isn't able to be paired with the goggles (goggles2 or integra), maybe that will change in the future, but right now you're stuck using the motion controller with the goggles.
Smoother flying 😂This was all my first time trying this out, so I'm sure with a bit of flying time you could figure out how to avoid that. Or a least minimize it.
Was it maybe a different drone? For the mini 4 pro and the air 3 the the firmware release notes state that "When used with the goggles, only the DJI RC motion 2 is supported for flight control, other remote controllers cannot be used to control the aircraft"
@@CreateandKaptivate yes the avata drone. He used goggles and a dji controller that looked like a gaming controller. If it’s not possible with the mini 4 pro I really hope it will in the future
@@iWadd Yeah me too! That other controller you mentioned is the Remote Controller 2, it was originally for the DJI FPV but you can use it with any O3 air unit including the Avata
In the manual it says if the aircraft supports Explore Mode and if it's turned on the FN dial (as they refer to it in the manual) can be used to adjust the camera zoom, but I don't really know what explore mode is, and haven't had a chance to check it out to see if there is a way to do it. With the FN dial You can also control the gimbal tilt but I haven't tested that out either.
Hey, great post! One question I would have is: While Flying FPV don’t you have to have a visual observer with you to keep the “line of sight” requirement per the FAA, Part 107, and even as a recreational flyer? Because the FPV doesn’t allow you the peripheral view of people, vehicles, other aircraft, etc. Thanks…
@@CreateandKaptivate Oh, sorry, forgot, that’s a US thing…that makes a huge difference for me trying it. I can afford the goggles/controller, just fly less aggressively than shown here like the Avata is made better for. Thanks.
Hi, many thbnaks for this, is it poossible with motion contr to do the move combination like with RC2 ,for inst left and spin at the same time like to go arround the castle tower?
You can do an orbit with the motion controller, but from my experience it's hard to get a nice smooth shot. Unlike the RC2 where you have direct control of the lateral motion and the rotation, with the motion controller you're basically trying to do it using forward motion and rotation.
Mark I hoping you could help me, can those googles be used without that motion controller? I suspect yes but I don’t want to invest in the goggles if I have to use the joystick
@@CreateandKaptivate thank you Mark I appreciate it, it’s frustrating that HDMI was not included on the newest controller, but is on my original controller which allowed my use of Glyphs 🙃 keep those awesome videos coming
Makes no sense to lose obstacle avoidance using goggles or flying in sport mode which you should also be able to do while using the goggles. Come on dji , a thermal camera in a sub 249g drone would be cool as well.
So can you only use the joystick when using the goggles? Or can you also use the original controller with the goggles? Can I use the fpv controller with the goggles? So many questions.
With this firmware update, it only allows you to fly with the motion controller when using the goggles, so no RC2, and no FPV remote controller. Maybe they'll give us more options down the road?
With this firmware update you are only able to use the motion controller 2 when using the goggles. So no RC controller, at least for now, but it would be nice to have that option.
Great video Thanks, Now a couple questions... could you demo more about the menu structure, ie SD card formatting, and all those other bits and pieces that no one seems to be covering. Even though you say that we should be used to it, I have yet to get the screen record to work. I still need a good comprehensive all-settings video to go back to for refreshers. Can you use the goggles with the Mini Pro controller instead of the hand controller? I just got my goggles and hand controller this morning and have tried it out in the living room for a bit while I charged it up. The binding process is a pain to unbind the hand controller and the back to the RC controller. That is a pain point that I hope DJI addresses in the future. Once again great video. I also just subbed to your channel as I like the format of your videos.
Thanks for the comment...in future videos I will include more about the different settings. As far as the screen recording goes, if you go to that main menu in the goggles and select settings and go to camera and then advanced camera settings, here you can setup different recording options and enable screen recording. And you will need to have an SD card in the goggles.
That's understandable, I bought the Avata fairly recently and with that all the combos came with the motion controller. So I already had the goggles and the motion controller.
I haven't really tested the range yet. I've flown around 400-500m or around 1500ft with no problem. But a lot will depend on where you are flying, whether or not there's lots of interference, and having a good line of sight.
