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DLSS 3.6 Update & the Best Graphics and Performance You Can Get in MSFS2020 

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@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
IMPORTANT: I forgot something. Thanks to @CaribbeanSimPilot for pointing this out. You can manually add the DLSS file you download from TechPowerUp to DLSS Swapper. 1. Download and unzip the dll file from here: www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/ 2. Click on the books icon on the left in DLSS Swapper. 3. Select Import on the upper right. 4. Locate the DLSS dll file you downloaded and double click it. 5. It will ask you to confirm, select Import. Version 3.6 is now in DLSS Swapper. 6. Click on the Games icon on the left. 7. Click on MSFS, highlight v3.6.0.0 and click Swap. Job done! Sorry for not mentioning this in the video!
@imacmill
@imacmill 6 месяцев назад
I was just about to ask about this. I 'imported', worked fine. Thanks for the addendum...
@salvadorcarrillo5113
@salvadorcarrillo5113 6 месяцев назад
Is not letting me import it i click on it and it doesn’t do anything
@salvadorcarrillo5113
@salvadorcarrillo5113 6 месяцев назад
@@imacmillu on steam?
@imacmill
@imacmill 6 месяцев назад
@@salvadorcarrillo5113 Yup, Steam.
@imacmill
@imacmill 6 месяцев назад
FYI, I changed setting to DLAA, and upon clicking 'apply and save', the game crashed hard, putting up a dialog stating my 'graphics device encountered a problem...'. A list of possible reasons were given, including a note about DX12 being BETA. I will avoid DLAA.
@Osvaldo_Oz
@Osvaldo_Oz 6 месяцев назад
Wow, I've gotta say, I'm totally blown away here! 🌟 Ever since MSFS launched, I've been up in the virtual skies, living it up in VR. I've been tinkering with Windows 11, nudging every little slider in Nvidia Control Panel, diving into the depths of the registry, and fine-tuning MSFS settings like a maestro. Honestly, I thought I had maxed out all the performance and quality I could ever get from my MSFS VR setup. But then, like some kind of tech wizard, you swooped in and turned everything I knew upside down-in the best way possible! I followed your advice to the letter, and holy moly, I'm having the time of my life! The VR experience is smoother than silk, and the quality? Chef's kiss! A MASSIVE thank you for leveling up my game! 🎮✈🎉
@waetos
@waetos 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree!! Max forced resolution on native res devices is the key here. My sim is awesome now. I'm on a PMDG 737 from EHAM to OMDB, live wx and it's smooth as butter. The visuals are stunning. My fans are running a bit faster than before the holy grail hit my system, but only by 10% . I went into the bios and AI tuned the fans for heavy load gaming and that really helped. All in all, an awesome result.
@Chucky90tt1
@Chucky90tt1 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for taking the time to get this info out to the Flight Sim community. I used your settings on my Intel 13900k system with the Pimax Crystal and a 4090 GPU, and wow! The gages on the Bell 206 are so clear as is the surrounding terrain. Best of all, run with a TLOD tool. Shudders have been just about eliminated. Flew the route from KSNA to KCMA with a northwest track . Flying under the Bravo airspace. And it didn't cost me $550/HR Cheers!
@Bellthorian
@Bellthorian 6 месяцев назад
HOLY COW, I will say that I am normally a skeptic when it comes to MSFS settings videos so I tend to take things with a grain of salt. I have been addicted to Helicopters lately and have been flying the Cowan Sims MD-500. My chief complaint was that in VR the cockpit looked soft and fuzzy, so I followed your directions and it is a night and day difference. Not only are the instruments CRYSTAL clear, even the TINY temperature gage is VERY clear. Flying around in my Reverb G2 the sim looked as clear as it does on my monitor. I have a 32x9 Ultrawide display that runs natively at 5120x1440. I am running a super resolution of 7680X2160 as well as using DLAA and it is still giving me silky smooth framerates. The only time I saw slight FPS issues was flying around Baltimore and that was only looking out the side of the aircraft, looking strait ahead it was silky smooth. I have to hand it to you, this was one of the best explanation and tutorial videos on MSFS I have ever seen. You earned my sub sir!
@owenklein1917
@owenklein1917 6 месяцев назад
The work you do to show us performance tricks is amazing. I love your channel.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
I’m very grateful, thank you so much for saying that.
@ImpendingJoker
@ImpendingJoker 6 месяцев назад
You don't have to put that file into the folder. That is what DLSS Swapper does. Unzip right where it is and use DLSS Swapper to change it. You use DLSS Swapper's Import feature to import the 3.6 version so you can use 3.6.
@CMACJAZZ
@CMACJAZZ 6 месяцев назад
Thanks yes that’s the programme I meant, ne of your excellent tutorials covered the set up, there so much I would like to ask but probably burden you beyond what’s reasonable! Thanks so much I think we all in the community owe you a debt of gratitude. I am 71 years now and in the day was a flight Engineer on Boeing 707,s for a now liquidated U.K. airline after redundancy due to technology ( two man crews) I went on to set up my own tech consultancy company serving A/C leasing companies/ Airlines etc. Sorry for droning on! Thanks again for all the tutorials . BR Charlie
@loginaman
@loginaman 3 месяца назад
Only one word to describe this video and your efforts - AMAZING!!🎉
@psouthan
@psouthan 6 месяцев назад
Another quality video from the master! He carries on like this and I'll be flying out to his sun soaked area of the globe to buy him a beer!
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
PS, you guys are gonna laugh. Right after I did this whole thing, there was a beta update. Downloaded the new SU Beta, 1.37.9... and MSFS downgraded my DLSS file to 2.4.12. 😂
@Level10Productions
@Level10Productions 6 месяцев назад
Please explain yourself better! I have so much trouble trying to follow you because you tend to jump ALL OVER the place. So, then you had to reinstall the 3.6 dll again, is that what you're saying?
@jumpjet777
@jumpjet777 6 месяцев назад
@@Level10Productions As far as I am aware, every time that MSFS 2020 updates, for example SU15 is due out soon, then the MSFS installer will reset the DLSS.dll to it's default, therefore undoing what you have done with the Swapper. So after an MSFS update just run the Swapper again to upgrade the DLSS.dll again.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
@@Level10Productions Yep. Two second fix but it's just annoying that Asobo does this.
@Level10Productions
@Level10Productions 6 месяцев назад
​@IslandSimPilot yes it is. My problem is, I have mine working but I am running on a 4K monitor. What should my Full Screen Res be? My numbers are way up there compared to yours. You are basically using a 2K monitor, right? Which is not a standard. So, Im using mine scaled at one setting (not 2) higher than my 4K screen. Seems to be snappier than if I go all the way to highest res. Then, I set it to balanced, even snappier and I don't notice any real change in quality. I have the nvidia setting texture at highest quality too. They seem to balance well but am I doing it the best way? I want as few stutters and nicest graphics I can get. Am I missing anything? I wish we knew what to set Threaded Optimization to, auto or on.
@vin340600
@vin340600 6 месяцев назад
@@Level10Productionsi did the same thing with my 4k.. Did not turn res all the way up.. Just one notch above 4k and quality setting.. W Looks and performs great..
@dpc111
@dpc111 6 месяцев назад
Another great video and it got me to the best performance yet. I recent purchased a new machine. i9-14900kf and RTX 4070S. I went through your vid several times and ended up with... 1. the new DLSS 3.6 in my sim 2. All of your Nvidia settings 3. In Sim I'm using the DLSS super and DLAA with my native 1440p resolution. On my rig it actually performs and looks better than the DSR settings. All I can say is wow! Settings maxed out and pegged at 60fps, butter smooth. Thanks for efforts!!
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Very glad to hear that! Happy simming!
@alessandromontoya6195
@alessandromontoya6195 6 месяцев назад
The man that holds the holy grail 😄 Much appreciated, see you in the skies ✈
@disco79stu
@disco79stu 6 месяцев назад
I really like and appreciate how comprehensible you can explain all of this, I keep trying it out every once in a while. Although I don’t really have the feeling to perceive any real difference while flying, I get why all of this is technically „better“. What I still can‘t quite get use to with DLSS though is the blurry and ghosting displays in the cockpit (ie Fenix A320). They look so much sharper with TAA for me.
@capt_jhunter
@capt_jhunter 6 месяцев назад
Thanks again Capt. You are my hero when it comes to my flight sim settings, that Holy grail settings is the best. I’m running a RTX 4060 gpu with 8GB VRAM and AMD RYZEN 7 7840HS CPU, using a 165Hz monitor running at 2560x1440 all settings max out, AutoFps, Frame gen mod, and map enhancement, using Ultra Performance works better for me than DLAA really don’t know why but my FPS don’t come under 90, this is just running smooth as butter for me. Thanks a lot again Capt, you are one of the only few out there that are truly sincere when it comes to show your setting exactly the way you run your sim. Hopefully one of these days when you are in the Caribbean (SXM) I’m around there and I could give you a tour onboard my vessel. Keep up the good work and just ignore those negative comments I see from a few people around here calling MSFS2020 just a game or don’t know what. Happy flying Capt
@declanbulmer1500
@declanbulmer1500 5 месяцев назад
I can’t explain how long I have been racking my brain watching endless videos and tutorials on how to get the sim looking its best without constant ghosting all over the show. YOU SIR ARE A GENIUS! I watched the holy grail video and thought damn it will be outdated with the new dlss and frame gen but OH WOW it was not thankfully I watched this vid too! Seriously thank you! I can finally enjoy my sim on my rtx 4070 ti super i9-149k
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 5 месяцев назад
You are so welcome, my friend! These comments always make my day!
@MikeWestBastion
@MikeWestBastion 6 месяцев назад
Just WOW!, I never thought I could push the quality and performance any more on my RTX2070 super any further until implementing the high quality and DLAA setting after updating DLSS to 6.2, ok I dropped down from 60 - around 55 fps but the improvement in guages and visual quality is outstanding and the feel is much smoother than ever! Thanks for these invaluable videos!!!! 👍👍
@I_Evo
@I_Evo 6 месяцев назад
Given that the DLSS version seems to only change every few months and it's just one file in one location I'm not sure what the DLSS swappers program adds to the party, especially if it's only MSFS you're concerned with. And you said a couple of times you have to have DX12 enabled for this to work. What specifically are you referring to? I know you need it for Frame Generation, but DLSS Super Resolution and the DSR factors and resolutions work under DX11.
@dasdguy7606
@dasdguy7606 6 месяцев назад
Hello ISP. I want to thank you for your suggestions. I applied them and am greatly delighted by the results. The Stutters and Shimmering are now gone. Also, I've increased the resolution just to tinker, as you suggested and discovered an incredibly higher level of detail without performance issues. Thanks again!!
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Great to hear! Happy simming!!!
@timdavern
@timdavern 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate this, MSFS looks so much better. Thanks for explaining the specifics of why this works. Cheers!
@AB_neo
@AB_neo 6 месяцев назад
Absolutely MASSIVE performance improvement. I thought I had pretty decent FPS and imagery before (running the RTX4070; 64GB RAM; 13th gen i7), but did have a few stutters at heavily detailed airports and flying over city scenery add-ons. But now it’s hugely improved. I did switch to DX12 and activate the DLAA instead of having the setting to auto too. It’s not just the FPS improvement I’m seeing, but also image quality improvement. I’ll have to remember to implement this again after SU15 comes out next week.
@briancrawley8440
@briancrawley8440 4 месяца назад
Just followed this video and the performance improvement is very noticeable. Visually much smoother too. Just hope SU15 doesn't break it. Thanks again
@tomcatvrkalisz820
@tomcatvrkalisz820 6 месяцев назад
Guy you should not say DLSS is downscaling - it is upscaling from lower resolution rendering, downscaling is DLDSR - rendering in higher resolution than monitor native. BTW deep learning DSR .
@bensheppard6547
@bensheppard6547 6 месяцев назад
This is an amazing Video, following all the instructions, not too complicated, has made this game look amazing. Great work !!!
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
I'm really glad to hear that, Ben!
@LeadNarrator
@LeadNarrator 6 месяцев назад
Just a little detail that i think should be corrected. You don't need DX12 for DLSS. It works also on DX11 mode in the sim too.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Isn’t the first time I was wrong, won’t be the last. 😉 Thanks for the correction!
@paradoxicalcat7173
@paradoxicalcat7173 6 месяцев назад
DLSS is a driver feature and nothing to do with DX at all. You're welcome. :)
@jumpjet777
@jumpjet777 6 месяцев назад
@@paradoxicalcat7173 The only point worth mentioning is that you do need DX12 if you also want to use the 40 Series card's Frame Generation.
@chrispatton7215
@chrispatton7215 6 месяцев назад
You are amazing. Can't wait to try your suggestions on my gaming PC. Thank you very much.
@MarcelBooij
@MarcelBooij 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the great video!! FYI: I also changed from v3.5.10 to v3.6.0.0. on my RTX3080 and with the holy grail active on 3x 2K Mon. What I did NOT change was my driver 537.58, since this is the last stable driver I know off for this GPU, wich gives me a steady 30FPS AVG. Conclusion: as you mentioned in de video, no big improvement for me, although the G1000 screens actually seem a bit less tearing 🙂
@laszlogalosi5806
@laszlogalosi5806 6 месяцев назад
Now v3.6 is available to download in DLSS Swapper which is a godsend. very good explanation of DLAA and DLSS sir, thank you very much!
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, appreciate the support!
@crashbar77
@crashbar77 6 месяцев назад
I'd really like to thank you these guides. They are keeping my old I7 w/2080SUPER running the game great! BTW 5.6 is now available from the swapper.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
I’m very glad to hear that! And thanks!
@jameshall5835
@jameshall5835 6 месяцев назад
Just getting started with MSFS, will be flying both 2D and VR. You mentioned ‘of course’ you need DX12 - why ? GSYNC ? Yes or no ? Something called resizable BAR - yes, no ? I know - deep in the weeds ! Subscribed !!
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Hey James, thanks for reaching out! What are your system specs? I can make some recommendations for sure.
@jameshall5835
@jameshall5835 6 месяцев назад
@@IslandSimPilot New build with top specs - i9 14k, MSI Tomahawk w/64GB, 4090 GPU, Odyssey G7 Samsung monitor
@jameshall5835
@jameshall5835 6 месяцев назад
@@IslandSimPilotWell I got going today and have MSFS using DLSS 3.7 with the new driver, DX12(beta), and both 2D and VR work spectacularly !😊 Only question left, and I’m not sure if you fly VR, is using OpenXR . I tried using VR with my Pimax Crystal (Pimax XR), without any adjustments and it just worked awesome. I can activate that menu in MSFS with cntl-F2 but I then have to grab a VR controller to do anything with it.
@Godzilla32
@Godzilla32 6 месяцев назад
Your discord notifcations in the background always catch me hahaha
@paradoxicalcat7173
@paradoxicalcat7173 6 месяцев назад
Your*
@peterregan8691
@peterregan8691 6 месяцев назад
A good tip for VR people who use the Open XR toolkit: There’s a BIG difference in quality and performance between DLSS ‘quality’ and DLSS ‘DLAA’, you can find the middle ground which works best for your system like so: jump into a flight in VR, engage your autopilot so you’re flying straight and level, set DLSS to ‘QUALITY’, open the Open XR Toolkit window (CTL+F2), go to the ‘system’ tab, set ‘override resolution’ to ‘YES’, then adjust your resolution UP until you get the framerate you’re happy with (34-36 etc). You will have to enter/exit vr mode during the process to confirm the setting but that’s it. Yo now have 3 performance/quality options; DLSS Quality and DLSS DLAA, which are set in the sim menu (open xr toolkit override resolution ‘OFF’) , and a third option, perfectly matched to your own setup, which is set by simply changing ‘override resolution’ to yes in Open XR toolkit whilst in DLSS Quality mode. For me, I get about 47fps in DLSS Quality, 29 fps in DLSS DLAA, and 35 in DLSS Quality with override resolution ON which for my system is the best compromise of quality/performance and I can decide which mode I use depending on the type of flight I’m doing. All this works well in DX11 with whichever LOD/TLOD addon you prefer as described on this channel (I personally use SmoothFlight). PLEASE NOTE: you need reasonable performance in DLSS QUALITY mode to start with because as you adjust the resolution up your framerate will naturally drop.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Peter! I’ll read this and see if there’s a way I can put this together for VR people.
@clivemcintosh5017
@clivemcintosh5017 6 месяцев назад
Thanks once again for another very useful guide. This one is the icing on the cake for me. The only thing I do not understand is where you find the time research and produce this stuff.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
You’re very welcome, and that’s a good question! 😂
@vin340600
@vin340600 6 месяцев назад
Works like a charm.. Best mod for msfs performance since it's release.. Thanks a million island pilot 🙏
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
You are quite welcome!
@tvfd-thevirtualflightdispa978
@tvfd-thevirtualflightdispa978 6 месяцев назад
Yesterday, I had a complete crash of my computer. What failed was the entire Nvidia architecture. What was different about this last crash than the others I've had (and I've had a few), is that system restore did NOT work to fix the problem. I had three different restore points including the last Windows installation and they all failed to reload the graphics drivers. This required a complete wipe of the computer, a clean Windows 11 installation, then the sim. After reloading it, the latest 551.86 Nvidia driver, dlss v3.6, and the precise settings as discussed here. I got it to work and work well. In fact, it works better than it has for some time. There were two things I did differently: First, I upgraded to Windows 11 Pro. Second, I upgraded the dlss driver and the 551.86 together. I am less convinced that the Win 11 Pro was the thing that worked, but I am more convinced the difference was dlss v3.6. What happened yesterday was I was running dlss 3.5.10 and the new 551.86 driver. Since the v3.6 works fine and the v3.5.10 did not, I believe that the combination of the earlier version of dlss just did not work together (using the Holy Grail settings). Your performance may vary, but I strongly recommend --not-- to use dlss v3.5.10 with this latest driver. It very well might crash your computer. On a slightly different subject, I cannot get DLSS Swapper to work. It simply will not detect MSFS 2020 and also will not properly download the dlss file. The alternate means of swapping the dlss file works here, but beware...you really have to be careful. If you don't back it up then overwrite it with the new file, it may corrupt the graphics settings and that will require a complete reinstall of MSFS2020. That would suck.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Gosh I wish I had an idea to give you. I really am at a loss as to what could have caused all that. You said you’ve had this happen before no? Or something similar anyway?
@tvfd-thevirtualflightdispa978
@tvfd-thevirtualflightdispa978 6 месяцев назад
@@IslandSimPilot I posted the fix on your latest video, but it appears the combination of diss 3.5.10 and the 551.86 driver was the culprit.
@thesledge3481
@thesledge3481 6 месяцев назад
Most important streamer for MSFS. Spread the word even more widely
@18hourgaming66
@18hourgaming66 6 месяцев назад
When frame generation is off, enabling in game vsync enables GPU high performance mode (if you don't cap your fps below the vsync fps limit). This leads to better frame time consistency as vsync is the perfect frame rate limiter (on the flip side you will see more stuttering if you cannot maintain vsync frame rate). In game VSync has no effect when Frame Generation is enabled, only NVCP VSync will work, but the issue is MSFS has a broken implementation of frame generation with vsync (it used to work but they broke it somewhere in between). Ideally with Vsync your game fps should be half of your vsync fps cap, but that does not happen, you can enable debug mode display fps and another fps display like RTSS which will display the FPS after frame generation. To make FG work with vsync you have to put an artificial fps cap eg via RTSS / NVCP at your vsync frame rate (just below ~ 0.01 fps below). This is a hack and does not work reliably always. Why would you want vsync with FG, because you can get 60 fps with in game 30 fps and 30 fps is optimized in MSFS for just about no stuttering with ultra settings.
@captainpiett765
@captainpiett765 6 месяцев назад
Excellent video, thanks 🙏 Both very detailed and easy to understand
@daverice3994
@daverice3994 6 месяцев назад
Question: Why do you change some Nvida card settings in the Global settings verses the Program settings. For example, Texture Filtering.
@rsvette123
@rsvette123 Месяц назад
This is already in MSFS now provide you have the latest NVidia driver - am I missing something ? also is lossless scaling recommended with DLSS ? - been out of simming for a while - trying to catch up - thanks
@jhallock
@jhallock 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for the insight here! I am running a 4K resolution setup and perhaps it should be noted that the "holy grail" combo with DSR probably doesn't make sense unless you're on a 1440p or lower setup? My frames dropped 33% after trying DSR 1.78 and that was with DLSS Quality
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Yeah 4K is a lot of pixels as it is, might be pushing your system too much with DSR. DLSS-DLAA is probably the ideal for you.
@PeterBevington
@PeterBevington 5 месяцев назад
Awesome video, probably one of the most informative ones on this topic. Can you share the link (as I'm bind) to the video which speaks to moving MSFS from the 'restricted' MS folder to somewhere else. Thank you.
@sonnymayer
@sonnymayer 6 месяцев назад
Another good video . Thanks for posting. Question - you posted a video a few weeks ago dealing with your opinion of not having to use DDU anymore when installing a new driver. I can't seem to find it. What was the title? Thanks.
@wakevortex
@wakevortex 6 месяцев назад
Im struggling to see how people are saying this works in VR..its spectacular in 2D , but in VR, the main 2D display res has no bearing on the VR picture.. try it...set 2D res REALLY low, and see the VR headset quality ...FPS and quality are unchanged as you would expect..(they certainly are for me anyway ! ) For those who ARE seeing a difference in VR...how exactly are you achieving it, and it you reset the 2D display back to low res rather than the DSR settings shown here , does the VR picture change?
@augustomartins9516
@augustomartins9516 6 месяцев назад
Captain, don't forget, to use DLSS+DLAA you need to set profile F on Profile Inspector
@Xlastsuspectx
@Xlastsuspectx 6 месяцев назад
Does the 3.6 version that's currently in DLSS Swapper work with frame gen?
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
It wasn’t as of yesterday, the FG file is nvngxdllsg
@apmarian
@apmarian 6 месяцев назад
The only downside of DLSS is that the displays on glass cockpit get blurred… if it didn’t happen I would certainly recommend! Great video btw!
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
The solution is in the video... :)
@mau81
@mau81 6 месяцев назад
@@IslandSimPilot Can you point when? I can't find it
@jakeperl5857
@jakeperl5857 6 месяцев назад
@@mau81 around 15:36
@Dennis47403
@Dennis47403 6 месяцев назад
@@jakeperl5857 Before this video my solution was to set this in the Usercfg.opt file. SecondaryScaling 2.000000 That cleared it up like a champ.
@Sousaboi865
@Sousaboi865 6 месяцев назад
Still just as blurry…
@MonsterDHFOX
@MonsterDHFOX Месяц назад
So I did this last night, I went from 20FPS to almost 40.I have a 4070 ti super running 4 monitors and the 2 G1000’s setup. So 5 monitors on high. I can’t believe I was at 20 frames and it looked ok to me lol. This is also with a i5 12400f, I think I need to upgrade that. What do you think? Thanks for this!
@elbapino6531
@elbapino6531 6 месяцев назад
Bonjour mon ami ! Already done ! It's just fantastic !! Thks again mon ami ! lol
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Merci!!!
@tomas5577
@tomas5577 6 месяцев назад
This maybe a silly question but here goes. Does that AI learning only happen during your current session or is it cumulative over multiple sessions. Should we see improvement over time? I followed the setting closely without high TLOD or OLOD and still get stutters. Also noticed that helicopters and locations put a big hit on performance. I have intel i7 11700F with 16 GB DDR4 and an RTX3060
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Not a silly question at all! It's actually all done before we get it. The machine learning is done using NVIDIA supercomputers. They then compile that learning and package it into the DLSS file that we download. So actually it isn't doing any learning during our sessions, it is all done behind the scenes so to speak.
@tomas5577
@tomas5577 6 месяцев назад
@@IslandSimPilot great, thank you!!
@speedbird8326
@speedbird8326 6 месяцев назад
Does your holy grail setup apply to those of us with a 4k monitor and an RTX 4090 ? What graphics card do you have ?
@Hughes2405
@Hughes2405 6 месяцев назад
I did the update, but unlike other users, I didn't see any increase (4070Ti super), and the DLSS option in the Sim is gone, only TAA, FXAA etc. are left, how can it be? I went back to 3.5.1
@kahugaming
@kahugaming 6 месяцев назад
Hey thanks for the guide! I have been getting incrdbile results from using your videos to setup my MSFS on my new PC. I am curious if you have any issues with using DirectX 12? My ground textures keep disapearing or being blurry and it seems to be fixed using DX11, are you aware of a fix for it?
@Bellthorian
@Bellthorian 6 месяцев назад
I turn AMD Fidelity FX sharpening totally OFF and it make a HUGE difference in the clarity of the gages and screens in the cockpit.
@D800Lover
@D800Lover 4 месяца назад
Oh boy, thanks for the video, but I need some help. I have a native 1440p monitor (wide 5120 x 1440p) and trying to find my best settings for both Windows (photo editing) and MSFS 2020 Sim update 15. Should I use DSR for Windows? I have already done that and I am in fact getting 10240 x 2880 (4.00x) at present. That does not mean I will stick to that setting and will likely go back to 7680 x 2120p (2.25x). Hardware: Monitor wide 5120 x 1440p, 120Hz I have a 4090 video card. I have i7 9700K CPU running 4.9GHz. Assuming running Windows at 4.00x, then I get to my MSFS settings. Should I use the following? Select: 7680 x 2160p Anti-Aliasing : Nvidia DLSS Super Resolution (get 3.7) Select: Quality Frame generation: On AMD Sharpening: 100 V-Sync On (120Hz monitor): On - OR SHOULD I TURN THIS OFF ??? HDR10: Shaded to Off Frame Rate Limit: 50% DirectX Version: DX12 The above should give me the Holy Grail? Any comments or suggestions based on the above set-up? I think that it would be wise to maybe use 7680 x 2160p for both Windows and MSFS 2020 when I think about it. That should also do nicely with photo editing. But does it matter if I leave it at 10240 x 2880p for Windows? Or is that just to silly? Can't wait for comments... getting a bit excited here. :)
@andyking5358
@andyking5358 6 месяцев назад
crystal clear many thanks I have a 4070Ti now being used instead of running just above idle.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
That's awesome! Enjoy!
@darrenblack2802
@darrenblack2802 6 месяцев назад
First: Thanks for all the great posts. All around great videos to follow and learn from.. Second: Get VR. Seriously. Third !!! Not sure where it happened at, but with all currant drivers and updates to everything... My nVidia control panel no longer has DSR as an option. I also show no 'larger then actual' resolutions either in windows or MSFS. I do have Win11 and the new nVidia app(which may be there issue?) Anyway, just thought I'd post that. Bonus Fourth bullet point: Seriously dude. VR :)
@Peter-55
@Peter-55 6 месяцев назад
Hi, thank you so much for the help and information that you provide in videos like this, it's much appreciated. Regarding the "Holy Grail" method you describe, it doesn't work for me mainly because my system is low-end these days (i9-9900k and RTX 2080Ti) and I need as much performance as I can get to run in 4k, which is my preferred resolution. I instead use DLSS Ultra Quality mode set at .8 upscaling which gives a similar effect to your Holy Grail option (set in Nvidia Inspector) but gives me the extra few FPS that I need. I think is would be useful for your viewers to mention this as an option if the Holy Grail method does not work well, particularly on lower-end systems. BTW, DLSS swapper now has DLSS 3.6 in its list.
@kennethmkirschprofessional267
@kennethmkirschprofessional267 6 месяцев назад
I don’t have DSR in my Nvidia control panel!!?? And your General Options menu in FS is different than mine. I’m totally up to date. How can this be??
@Algy10
@Algy10 6 месяцев назад
Just to clarify. In VR and using Virtual Desktop should I use V.D upscaling settings on or off or use current 2D settings (which are working fine following your excellent video)?
@aviationchris5091
@aviationchris5091 6 месяцев назад
tried it, getting worse performance . i'm on 2080 super, unless this feature is for newer model cards??
@Dougie2945c
@Dougie2945c 6 месяцев назад
Might sound like a silly question but can i swap all my other games to 3.6.0.0 ?
@davidgiles9751
@davidgiles9751 6 месяцев назад
Do you need DSR if you're running MSFS at 4K on a native 4K monitor? I have the LG Flex 42 4K OLED with a RTX 4070 card. My resolution is fantastic with it...
@andyking5358
@andyking5358 6 месяцев назад
Very quick question all look good, however with DSR enabled in Full Screen mode do we select the full screen resolution ie my native is 2560x1440 now when click on the resolution tab we have the 2 greater ones in there do we select the 3840x2160 to get the 2.25 upscale or leave it at 2560x1440 and it does it automatic. Great content this my friend its a game changer.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Hey Andy! You select the higher resolution in the sim, but don't change your desktop resolution! Let me know if that's clear.
@JockoFlocko
@JockoFlocko 6 месяцев назад
Followed everything you're talking about perfectly up until the point you didn't mention Frame Generation... Are you able to use the old Frame Generation "hack" for none RTX 40 cards with DLSS 3.6? The person that created that "hack" hasn't bothered to update that file on Nexus Mods since January (version 0.90).
@hemiweight6697
@hemiweight6697 6 месяцев назад
Just as a point of clarity, I have 3.6 installed with FG (set up from your previous video) but I am only seeing around 60 frames in the sim were before I was seeing double that. FG shows in the sim and is on. Am I missing something?
@VonycBln
@VonycBln 6 месяцев назад
You can import the 3.6.0.0 dll file into DLSS Swapper .... so you dont have to mess around the winodws folders
@nsinghc2799
@nsinghc2799 6 месяцев назад
Will manually updating DLSS to 3.6.0 apply or work for other games like Cyberpunk for example?
@truespirit
@truespirit 6 месяцев назад
Any word on why I don't see the two DSR options in the global settings of my NVIDIA control panel? I mean, I have a 4k monitor with a 4090 here. Why are they not showing up?
@truespirit
@truespirit 6 месяцев назад
Apparently it's not supported with DCS on DP1.4.. so in other words, you need to give up your 144hz at 4k to get it to work, assuming your monitor can even disable DCS without shifting all the way down to DP1.2. Mine isn't that sophisticated, unfortunately.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
True, I had forgotten that, sometimes you have to drop it to 120 or 90.
@sheridansay8667
@sheridansay8667 6 месяцев назад
I'm struggling to locate the Content folder. I am running the gamepass version. Help anyone !!!
@CMACJAZZ
@CMACJAZZ 6 месяцев назад
Hello Island Sim Pilot, Charlie here from UK, iI guess this may bea silly question, do you use the microsoft auto frame rate modification at the same time when the frame rate genration is enabled and set up?. Thanks Charlie
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Hey Charlie, if you mean the AutoFPS program, you can absolutely use that as well. Not a silly question at all. Thanks for watching!
@ronanderson2130
@ronanderson2130 6 месяцев назад
Hi I have a 43" 4K samung TV . Will this still work following your video? What about VR same settings? Thanks for this video. Just found you this morning. I willstart coming back to you.
@sharkfisherman1884
@sharkfisherman1884 6 месяцев назад
great for flat screen but what do i do with vr? do i turn everything down/off in sim pc settings and do this in vr settings? confusion because i only fly in vr (like many) and while i love your videos its confusing what to do because you are not mentioning vr like you sometimes do. if you could clarify thanks
@sky173
@sky173 6 месяцев назад
I'm using that DLSS 3.6 Update. I don't see that option 'Nvidia DLSS Frame Generation = ON/OFF' selection. I 'm not sure If I'm doing something wrong.
@ColinDyckes
@ColinDyckes 6 месяцев назад
So you are saying that DLAA will give better quality than TAA when running a 4090 at 4K Full Ultra, DX12 and Frame Generation (when the dllsg file is available)? Any FPS hit. 14900KS at 5.9GHz all core in FS2020.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
It should yes. That is a sweet PC!
@yoelstrikovsky
@yoelstrikovsky 6 месяцев назад
what out of all your settings recommendations is relevant to those who run on GTX GPU and not RTX GPU, e.g. 1080 Ti.
@disco79stu
@disco79stu 6 месяцев назад
thanks for the video! so as you mentioned DLAA is a even better antialiasing, can I also use it when I use the DSR factors? or do I have to stick to DLSS quality with this one?
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Absolutely! If your system is happy you can definitely use it with DLAA.
@PAPERandPENCILguy
@PAPERandPENCILguy 6 месяцев назад
My issue with this is just that whenever I enablee DLSS+DLAA, I keep getting one specific issue where it works fine and dandy and has the best framerates of any setting, but then about 5 mins into the sim, I will get this insane stop/start tearing almost like a powerpoint but you're changing the slides extremely slowly. It is an absolute dealbreaker and I havent found a fix for it. TAA for me for now because DX12 just has so many issues with bugs that it's not worth my time anymore. I cannot do another 5+ hour flight only to have it crash on me because of the instability of DX12.
@garywiley7886
@garywiley7886 6 месяцев назад
My imaging looks better with TAA than DLAA. Any thoughts? Thanks
@CaribbeanSimPilot
@CaribbeanSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Is it not ok to just import the new file right into DLSS swapper via the import function and then just swap?
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Actually yes!
@CaribbeanSimPilot
@CaribbeanSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Always great material! @@IslandSimPilot
@psouthan
@psouthan 6 месяцев назад
It's all gone so horribly wrong! I have followed the instructions, Dlss swapper installed 3.6 Nvngx_dlss.dll installed and get good frame rates but, I also get a slight shimmering around the aircraft when panning, only when panning and a little in my cockpit. I can live with it, but it is annoying, especially the shimmer in pan/outside mode. However, I like to use the Nvidia Geforce Experience Filters, but when I turn this on all hell is let loose and I get really shitty unplayable frame rates. Please! What can I do to enable the filters and retain the good frame rates that I currently get without the filters on. Any help with the shimmering when panning would be appreciated too! Thanks for all your help.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
One thing you can try is updating to the new NVIDIA app. Do you have the latest driver installed? BUT it is in beta, be aware of that. I use the new app with the simple Dynamic Vibrance and it looks great, but I’ve never really used the filters.
@antoniopettini9503
@antoniopettini9503 6 месяцев назад
To install this dlls version (3.6) I need to install the driver 551.87 or I can keep 551.76?
@hanifreij5497
@hanifreij5497 6 месяцев назад
Help, sim crashes with the DLSS Frame Gen Mod only when loaded into the Fenix A320.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
That airplane is pretty finicky it seems. If it doesn’t crash with anything else then it’s just the Fenix, and there’s not much you can do.
@nexe7271
@nexe7271 6 месяцев назад
Maybe a stupid question, but is this working for VR as well?
@ClinchRiverHomestead
@ClinchRiverHomestead 6 месяцев назад
Yes it does
@Readthefineprint
@Readthefineprint 6 месяцев назад
My question as well. I'll give it try though and see.
@Ramel40
@Ramel40 27 дней назад
One of the program settings is now taxing my main thread usage surpassing 45 ms
@markhodson420
@markhodson420 6 месяцев назад
Really amazed at the results I'm getting when this works - but I have noticed that I sometimes am getting an error that wasn't cropping up before: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG which is happneing on my 4090. Is this common, is anyone else having similar issues at all?
@PaulieCav777
@PaulieCav777 6 месяцев назад
Ahuh,...Thanks again Mike !! But the DLSS Swapper had the Update Ready to be Swapped as of today Anyway, 3 23 24... ;-0
@antoniopettini9503
@antoniopettini9503 6 месяцев назад
Why I don't have DSR factors option in the manage 3d setting nvidia control panel? I have nvidia 4090 with 551.76 driver. Thank you for your help
@jhallock
@jhallock 6 месяцев назад
PFD speed and alt tapes in the FBW are still blurry? Followed your settings, MSFS setting for Glass Cockpit refresh rate is set to High. Thanks
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
They will look their best with DLAA but I find them quite crisp.
@AdventuresWithPennyLane
@AdventuresWithPennyLane 6 месяцев назад
If you go into the UserCfg for MSFS and change secondary scaling to 2.000000 your blurry glass screens will become sharp
@disco79stu
@disco79stu 6 месяцев назад
this shattered my FPS by two thirds.
@AdventuresWithPennyLane
@AdventuresWithPennyLane 6 месяцев назад
@disco79stu weird. I have no FPS impact and others I have talked to that use it have had no impact either
@disco79stu
@disco79stu 6 месяцев назад
hm... I'm currently running all of islandsimpilot's suggestions with DSR, DLSS (quality) and I have frame gen on. when I set the seconrady scaling from 1 to 2, it gives me really bad performance. but I will give it another try.@@AdventuresWithPennyLane
@disco79stu
@disco79stu 6 месяцев назад
ok, can't get this to work. and as I'm reading through other posts where users set this to 0.7 or 0.8 to gain significant fps boosts, I don't find it too strange that it has a negative impact when I double that value to 2. I think I will keep it a 1, but thanks for the idea.@@AdventuresWithPennyLane
@Photoshopmanipulator
@Photoshopmanipulator 6 месяцев назад
Excellent show as usual, thanks to your suggestions I'm now getting a solid 60 fps. flight sim will not stay at full screen keeps changing back to window in spite of ALT + ENT or saving it in the graphic setting any way to keep it in the full screen . thanks for all the great help you have given us.
@AndyTurnerUK
@AndyTurnerUK 6 месяцев назад
The "windowed" thing is a bug (or some say a deliberate thing for easy access to desktop if game hangs on loading or updating) since the last game update, hope Asobo will rectify this in next update.
@garywiley7886
@garywiley7886 6 месяцев назад
Excellent video! Can you please provide the link on how to move the MSFS2020 from the windows apps folder into the XBOX games folder? Thank you so much!
@scottbradley5482
@scottbradley5482 6 месяцев назад
Do we still run OpenXR toolkit as usual? For example, we still upscale?
@caribbaviator7058
@caribbaviator7058 6 месяцев назад
Tested it. Smooth performance here with a 4080super. Going to try it with Cyberpunk next!
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Awesome!!!
@imacmill
@imacmill 6 месяцев назад
Where does this leave all the Auto-LOD apps making the rounds right now? Does it render (
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Nope! You can use it.
@RizzlaTheCat
@RizzlaTheCat 6 месяцев назад
Strange! I dont get any of those higher resolution settings in the sim, even though I activated those DSR factors in NV CtrlPanel. Only My 2560x1440. Any Idea any one? Thanks!
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Do you have HAGS on? That's usually the problem, people don't have it turned on.
@RizzlaTheCat
@RizzlaTheCat 6 месяцев назад
@@IslandSimPilot Thank you for replying!, and your great vids!. Yes Sir! I do! :) The only way I can get a higher res setting is to create a custom res in Nvidia Cpl! Everything installed incl Drivers are the latest. Strange.. I will Have to search through all settings.
@davidnamaila6850
@davidnamaila6850 6 месяцев назад
After i installed dlss and applied holy grail to my msfs i got a big 20fps boost, from 20 to 40, but everytime i close msfs and come back on its like my settings disappeared and im back at 20 fps with the holy grail and dlss
@arescyp
@arescyp 6 месяцев назад
thank you very much for your great video. to have the benifit do you need tos start the game from NVIDIA Panel? thank you
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Hey! Nope, I just start it from the normal MSFS icon.
@arescyp
@arescyp 6 месяцев назад
@@IslandSimPilot thank you...alwys 3 greens
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
@@arescyp to you as well!
@meyerhayoz84
@meyerhayoz84 6 месяцев назад
Do you know when the DLSSG file for the 40- Cards is coming? Thanks for the video!!!
@MrScott_e
@MrScott_e 6 месяцев назад
My Windows install is not as you described (in the XboxGames Folder). I don't have an XboxGames folder. Where is the link you said would be in the description on how to fix my installation? Thanks for the great videos.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
Hey! It’s the one “can’t find DLSS file?”
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 6 месяцев назад
This one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PAc0KSOMxb0.htmlsi=MsjOw9TLvtuTIMrA
@ricardostus2498
@ricardostus2498 6 месяцев назад
It dosent changed anything, and Swapper, now, is updated
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