DMP #37 - Xingyiquan & The Harmonies 

Hearing you describe this amd realize I've done this

Glad it was helpful

Thanks. Was worried it wasn’t clear :)

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Greetings from Bali 👋

I think I mentioned you in it?

Haha yes it was funny, I left the comment a couple of minutes before hearing that part 😅 Living up to the love of Xingyiquan

The only part of this I don’t use is the vibrations from earth entering through the legs. It’s not actually needed in my experience :) But the combination of dropping centre, compressing the abdominal cavity and applying the attention is key. This changes for seated versions of course but for standing practice, this is the way! 😁

@@LotusNeiGong yeah, when I awakened my lower dan tien I used the same process (but I think things like binaural helped a lot), however I think the "vibrations from the earth" that people talk about maybe is something that happens by itself on the practice (?)

Agree

Differences between the three can be done :)

@@LotusNeiGong thanks so much!

It’s pretty permanent to be honest 🤷🏼‍♂️

Hi Gary, happy to talk generally about Qigong disorder but don’t want to hone in too much on this particular case out of respect for the man’s family 🙏🏻 but I think I need to discuss Qigong disorder in one of these podcasts soon, yes

@@LotusNeiGong Yes dont hone in too much to give personal details away but just your anecdotal experience of this particular one and any others that you may have had. This is a subject which is often neglected but so important.

I don’t know. It’s here: lngmerch.com :)

@@LotusNeiGong cheers

Of course, but the root cause is San Ti. If you don’t have these principles in San Ti, they are not in the other aspects of the practice. Movements don’t build DT or Qi though, they just mobilise what is already there or, in many cases, not there 😁

@@LotusNeiGong Hi Damo, I have a different view on that. There are certain methods mentioned in XingYi classics in developing DT and Qi. I believe they can not be done by just doing San Ti. Even some prominent Xing Yi Masters in the old days actually spent less time on San Ti but more on Five element.

Sure thing. Different views make life interesting :)

Woo Woo Forever!

Woo Woo ?

Woo Woo Wei would be better

@@LotusNeiGong 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

@@Foma_Stuppa Wei Woo Wei? Woo Wei?

Dan Tian can be built sitting yes, and there are a few ways to do it but it’s is rarely done moving. People who practice the internal arts and who only move, rarely have any Dan Tian or Qi to talk of :)

@@LotusNeiGong thank you very much. I appreciate the response.

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Using Jin mobalizes the Qi inside, it is generally not projecting the qi out and does not deplete the Qi.

@@DiscoverTaiji That's interesting thanks for the clarification. I used to train with students of the gin-su chu/vincent chu line of taichi coming down the. They practiced a form of push hands known as dynamic push hands where, and I can't fully explain the internal mechanism, the teacher would 'inject' jin into the students body which would cause the student react in a myriad of movments that cause watchers to cry out FAKE!!. But the purpose of the activity was to strengthen the students dantien so it was constantly progressing to come on par with the power of the teachers dantien. I think this was like a shortcut so the student doesn't have engage in neigong and all those alchemical practice rituals which new students would find very difficult. Along the way the students qi would be strengthened to the point where it becomes jinn. Come to think of it isn't this jinn just a thickened version of qi which Damo talks about, being the only way to advance in martial arts based on neigong, it gradually becomes more dense and once you accumulate alot it floods the channels and thats when the whole body essentially becomes one big dantien, along with all the tendon work alongside? So, rightly or wrongly, isn't the jinn that I presume is emitted outside the body (although I'm in agreement with you that qi is not emitted but that could just be semantics if we establish an apriori that jinn is an extention of your bodies qi, albeit a much more refined and octane version of this substance?). So by emitting jinn isn't that depleting anyway. I mean even when doing static posture work there are ways of holding the palms and feet and other points of the body, that I have heard mentioned, so as not to emit too much qi thereby depleting yourself. Even the taichi fast form is supposed to be a about emitting qi because its advanced and your supposed to have built up a lot of qi/jinn that you dont lose much qi in the slow form. In any case have you heard of jinn, qi mentioned in these terms as described above or do you have a quite different paradigm associated with these terms and how they work?

@@carlholmes-gi8py I think the emitting Qi is simply something different from fajin, it is faqi. I also don't believe that "dynamic or power push hands" builds the dan tien.

@@DiscoverTaiji Interesting on there being a fajin and a faqi, I wasn't aware of this. If dynamic push hands doesn't build the dantien what purpose in their curriculum do you believe it serves?

@@carlholmes-gi8py it builds a spring like connected body power

It’s not quite the same, a little more ‘tensile’

@@LotusNeiGong Wow Damo himself! I am on your online course (not this username). I know you probably won't like the adoration, but finding you and your clear descriptions and affable personality has made a world of difference to my practise. Thank you for the reply. To clarify the body question, to a non--practicioner looking at the changed bodies is there a discernable physical property difference they would see?

Oh no, I am sorry but this is not true. There are distinct differences between ZZ and San Ti. Taiji and Xingyi do not work the same way. This is a common misunderstanding in the internal arts and whoever told you this probably hasn’t studied the arts enough to understand their differences :)

@@LotusNeiGong Then we agree to disagree. I still enjoy listening to your podcast 🙏

Taiji and Xingyi are very different and work in a totally different ways, both in power generation methods and tactically. ZZ and the standing Ding shi practices of Taiji are also very different.

@@DiscoverTaiji I disagree with you here. Zhan zhuang is a nei gong practice. The principles like "sinking the qi" can be seen in all internal martial arts. What makes Ding shi different from ZZ?

Ding Shi is walking the circle? Well to walk you have to move externally, right? ZZ your external is relatively fixed and the inside is what you're "doing." Isn't that kind of the opposite?

Mate, you’re terrible. You can’t learn Bagua from a book. I subscribed and gave some advice and you gave me advice? GFY

@@freshtigertracksinthemud3052 What can I say, my videos speak for themselves