@shirlentsu 发noyami If i work at company,and the job that i really want,i will work 12 hours happily,but mostly people work to make living,so why force someone to work unhealty?
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realise that working 9 to 9 6 days a week is not sustainable. If people are single and that passionate about their work than why not, but if you're wanting a worklife balance, which most of us are, then this is not going to work. On top of that, you need to consider that the commuting time to and from work could easily add another 1.5 or more hours. If you're getting home about 10pm then what time left do you have left for yourself your your partner or family? Very little
@shirlentsu 发noyami I work from 10 am to 6 pm for 6 days. Sometimes till 7 pm. And I've a problem working extra hours if I'm not paid for extra hours. This isn't because I'm lazy but i have no time for myself. Working 6 days is already tired and stressed so who one earth will work 996.It's like torturing our health. I'm in my notice period cause I'm tired of working 6 days and my health isn't good. Looking for company who works only 5 days haha!
Sounds like slave labour to me. Jack Ma was not in such a taxing job before he founded alibaba, what a load of crap he is now trying to pitch to the labour market
Marg "Jack Ma was not in such a taxing job before he founded alibaba, what a load of crap he is now trying to pitch to the labour market" Actually he was. Every single successful founder on average works 70 hours+ a week
yeah jack is trying to shove this down young peoples throats because it suits his interests. 996 should never be a "norm", it should be only optional for people who are into their career.
@@yerri5567 I get everyone need to work very hard to achieve something big in their life, but you won't achieve that working from 996, if you can't put your mind into something else you won't progress further, you will be a machine working for a company. They had an plan to achieve on which they put more than 70+hrs a week.
@@yerri5567 Yeah, okay. But these founders are working on their careers and something they enjoy and get a sense of achievement out of it. Then it's barely something you find boring or taxing. We're talking about mindless drone jobs where your labor is being used and cheaply extracted by money-hungry bosses.
@@yerri5567So you are comparing people that make millions and work long hours to people earning minimum wage? Let's see how motivated would you be to work 70+ hrs a week on minimum wage
This. The mindset of a founder is total different than employee. For a founder, in the initial stage you may very well work 70hrs/week BUT that's your choice as a founder. As an employee, that's not really healthy or even efficient.
Provided you sleep 7 hours a night on average that still gives you 5 hours daily for doing what you want, and ofc an entire day at the end of the week.
@@Proximate1 lol go work 7 days a week if you're so inclined and brainwashed, most sane people know they are already over worked with no free time left for themselves
there is an old Chinese saying "Those who stand on their toes indeed stand taller, but they can't stand that way for long". working in 12 hour shifts indeed can increase productivity, for a while. but it won't be long until the workers feel fatigued. i myself work as a freelance illustrator and regularly self-impose this 12 hour working hours a day for a year, and now i revert back to 8 working hours a day.
So true.. I had to leave my job just because my health went bad and I was frequently on sick leave. I had to travel 4 hours a day and then come home do household chores. It took the life out of me. I am trying something nearby and hopefully I won't stay unemployed for long.
Asian Boss, insightful and well-done video as always! Please keep up the great work! I just wish our entire society stops caring about money and material things, as the priority. What's really important is to be healthy and to enjoy the life you have, with precious people around you. What's the point of wasting the time (that we won't have back) in the office, or earning loads of money, if we lose our health, then everything is meaningless, no matter how much fortune you may have. I wish that we live a life that fulfills us from the inside.
I've met entreprenuers in real life who've spent 14-16 hours working for some of their first jobs or starting up their businesses. For them grabbing the experience and networking is invaluable for them but few can do it. Really it's up to you but for regular employee's it's infeasible
For me it would only be sustainable if I absolutely loved what I did, had a personal chef/cleaner, personal shopper, and maybe had a long lunch break so I could work out during the day. Oh, and I assume if accrue vacation hours more quickly too since I’d be working so much?
Health! Finally people are noticing that burning a candle at both ends and the middle will contribute to an early death. Working 30 hours a week is much healthier with plenty of money to live comfortably while living an extra 30 to 40 years. YES, 30 -40 year longer lifespan to enjoy the richness of Life, Love & Joy. Nobody looks back and says "I wish I worked harder and longer hours. "
As a 22 year old Male living in the United States , working for a big company ... I would prefer to work 5 days a week , as many hours as possible ( 8+ hours daily ) .. in reality its true most of us work 5 days on average in a week , 40hours a week ( had one job 6 days a week doing construction 12hours a day & I loved it just wish I had 2 days off ) .. my company & many more are real strict here on the overtime hours & keeps tracks of everyone overtime & if one exceeds 40hr they will send you home early so you won't pass 40hr to get overtime which is upsetting most of the timd for those who depend & work hard to earn that overtime .. I believe this work ethic is great because no one is being force nor should they ever be to work somewhere, so I believe companies shouldn't imply this only towards those who wish to work more for a higher income
My parents work 976 (9am to 7pm 6days a week, every two weeks. So in some weeks it will be 975)... and I was worried... cuz their employees are like 965...
When I was on OJT (which is recommended so that you can actually graduate in college). I wake up at 5:30am and work start at 7:30 am until 4:30pm but my innovator force me to have an overtime until 10:00pm at Monday/ Wednesday/Friday. I can't say I don't wanna since I wouldn't want them to treat me rough at work hours.
How about average working time in Japan? Actually, for Jack Ma, pay a person 72 hours equals one person 40 hours and a 32 hours, what’s difference? Difference is those people are salary payments, not hourly.
996 is currently THE trend in China 🇨🇳. It has many economic advantages, but surely isn't the healthiest thing to do. The problem is that in the West and in the East it is REQUIRED to do the 996 method to survive in the big market.
996 principle is only benecial to Business owners. They don't care about how exhausted their workers are, they only care about money. Like what that guy said "We work to live, so if your life is just to work. It's meaningless."
This 996 deal is unsustainable in a country like China. There's literally billions of people there and many of them could use jobs. Cramming all the work onto a few people and making them work 6 days a week will decrease their productivity, it's better to hire the triple of the workers instead.
To be fair, that applies much more to Western(ised) millennial employees. When the norm around you is overwork, you won’t necessarily see it as such a big problem in comparison, despite not liking it.
Those 3 women that are for the 996, come off cold and heartless, and it's sad that they agree on this theory. Most of them are developing health problems, mental stress, no life, can't spend time with family.......I mean their total existence is to work these long hours with no " me time outlet". This is crazy.
If you really love your job even 996 is unhealthy a body is not made for doing 12h the same thing over and over! I'm glad many chinese people understand that!
@@raynoldreagan4147 Stem Cells and Genetic Engineering are just promises into the future... There is actually very few cures and changes in quality of life and extension of life these technologies have come up with. In the end to have a quality of life you need to reduce stress, exercise and have balanced diet.. If your overworked, stress on your body and mind will cause long term physical and mental problems that no technology can fix ( Stem Cells and Genetic Engineering) and as result your quality and length of life will shorten. These modern day slave masters (billion dollar company owners) want you to kill yourself working day and night so they can become more wealthy.. Don't fool yourself into thinking overworking for someone else's riches is in your best interest for health long term.
This is exactly what I think I work in a call center... And sometimes there is green.... We are just waiting for a call to come and we have to sit for 15 minutes without being able to do nothing more than wait
@@tam_aria2001 well, you could use this regular down time to map out a process improvement proposal & present it to your superiors. Could be beneficial for your future in the company - don't you think so? :) Or you could use this time to study/read something for self growth or to learn a skill. Don't waste time, it's precious and you'll never get it back.
@0x1 you're right, this is how I feel right now, I've a job at one of the Chinese company, I'm the only foreigner who work here, and I think they all work harder just because the leader was still working till late, when the leader going to business trip or leaving home early, they just don't care and go home quickly, what a society
If you dont enjoy working in Alibaba group 996 you can just go to another company, simple. Life is better if you have a purpose and you work hard on it
Yes!! High stress environment means more dilemma on health.. which means all your hard work will just gonna put into drain because of your medical fees
@@Tengaii apparently he said something against the CCP. Now he is far less public, and leading a quiet life. I think nearly all billionaires and multimillionaire have this socio pathic mentality...
alarmed the japanese workplace culture is being practiced in China as well... IMO China should follow Germany's example, work smart not hard. This is a social ail
China wants to catch up the USA, it has to work smart and hard. work smart & hard (China) > work smart not hard(German&US) > work hard not smart (SE asia) > work not smart & hard (......)
@@月半-k5c when you go abroad, you get yourself huge wealth but your country or your people are poor, you are nothing, no one truly respects you. look at middle east billionaire
Maverick There is no such perverted work culture around the world,just some asian thing i think.When u just want some time enjoy life ,they call u lazy people.
@@키위제인 for real tho, I hope she keep this mindset only for herself. I'm afraid if she's promoted into higher position, she will say that to her employees
but companies like people like that, cos they follow whatever they tell them. "Hey work 996, cos what else are you gonna do with your youth?" They're easy to control. People who don't think individually
Americans have been sold the idea that "996" is something abnormal or too stressful. Buncha spoiled broke boys lmfao. The elites of America have tricked you all to think that working hard in your youth- middle age years is something taboo. LMfao jokes on you because every single self-made elites have gone through way longer and tougher work loads than "996". They don't want you to rise up from you wealth level. Stay broke, you broke boys, you will never become rich if you think 996 is not basic.
@@mickeyari2628 Living your own life makes a better life sir. If you are a boss, go ahead and work that, but why is making someone rich and 12 hours lazy? Here in Austria and many European countries, we have work laws to make sure employees work hard while at the same time enjoy their lives, and that is why we consistently beat you in living standards.
996 may be good for young ppl trying to build a career, but most ppl shouldnt follow this. You work for money to live, you dont live to work. You only have one life. Why would you want to spent majority of your life on work on another company that earn from you. Ultimately, we need to balance our work hours and personal time. Its always on the degree. But obviously this is only for people that can afford to. Some people literally needs to work longer hour to earn enough money for basic survival or high medical fees.
@@littlemschat1052 If you work 15 hours a day, you don't even have time to take care of yourself. You basically have enough time to take a shower and brush your teeth before you have to sleep. Your body would deteriorate at an extreme rate in that case. I've felt my health deteriorate only doing 8 hours a day because I didn't move around enough. I've always had active jobs before that, so I didn't have to pay attention to my body before this. Of course, my hobbies are suffering a lot from it, but my health is better.
i can probably do 996 for couple of weeks if there really is some pressing task to do. I don't want to be in office that long, if we just waiting on people, or having meetings etc.... plus I'll do if if I get naps in between during the day.
But then you ruin your health, and have to spend your hard earned money on doctors, who only deal with symptoms and not root causes, to keep you alive.
It should really be 664...6 hours 4 days a week...perfect for humans...You need parts of your day to yourself and to people you love. A 3 day weekend allows for traveling and fitness routines. Of course it would only work with a livable wage.
@Water & Sky oh yea..oops I think most would agree that after 6 hours we are all thinking, damn when is this day over (job). Unless you are doing your passion, jobs slowly kills us. That is why in poor or less modern countries, people are still smiling and laughing as their lives are more simple. Attaining things is what gets them worried and stressed out. All humans need is family/companion, shelter, and food. Everything else is just societal constructs.
Yeah that’s totally ok, you work for your own business, goal and dream. So it’s up to you to decide how much you want to invest in it. If it works you will reap the rich rewards. It’s not fair to ask employees to make that personal sacrifice for just a flat salary, unless the boss plan to share the profits
@@BingDwenDwen lmao. no im not. I work 9-5 and get paid well. Yes, its not a huge money, but i feel great. I can pay my life (and my mother) expenses, i can go travel or hang out with my friends, i can even buy action figure. You cant be broke just because you didnt work like a slave. I feel bad for you honestly hahaha
@@ritevalier That's because maybe you are in a developed country. In some countries you have to work 996 for you company ,otherwise you can't have enough money for a living and your wedding, your house rent. Unfortunately I'm in this kind of country. Nobody could chose when and where they born.
zs h thats true but maybe we shouldn’t idealize life? I dont work to pay a huge wedding or any other tradition whats so on. I just work to have enough to be satisfied. and if everybody stopped working 9 to 9 then maybe the companies will change. the competition in the society is so hard and insane. everybody compares their life in sns/ social media
No! I’m happy to see that the majority of the people in this interview was against it. It will cause a burnout. I’ve had several burnouts in my life and I’m 37. I thought hard work would get me promoted, a better career and more money. But it never did. It just gave me bad health. Companies aren’t loyal to you, you are expendable. The new guy/girl is younger and cheaper, so why would they bother with you. Look at your priorities, do you really need that big house and car? No? Then just work enough so you can do some fun things like dinner with friends/family and enjoy your free time. You are not born to work. This planet was free, but a bunch of criminals decided they own the land and you need to pay.
"Work hard instead of wasting your youth" In europe it's the contrary. You never gain your youth back. If you ruin your health, wether mental or physical at a young age you'll regret it.
@@ali-is7hd it can! Some factory workers are called industrialolimpics for a reason, its not really healthy to do 10 hours of hard phzsical labor for 6 days a week, and im not even talking about mental health issues like sleeping less because you start to value your freetime over sleep to get the illusion that you have control in your life. Pissing in plastic bottles because of strict break rules. Dealing with co-workers and managers....its not the best thing.
@@ali-is7hd but it depends, working hard doesnt mean that you are going to ruin your health. Working hard in specific conditions can ruin your health for sure :/
There's no room for happiness when life is overtaken by work. Especially if you don't enjoy the work, just working to live That's a lot to dedicate to a company and executives who profit from those labors In Canada, the government likes to take a hefty share of overtime hours worked
*_”As long as you are alive, you will either live to accomplish your own goals and dreams or be used as a resource to accomplish someone else’s.”_* This is a quote by real estate agent Grant Cardone. Keep this quote in mind at all times.
You can be both. Xou can be working at a company to better your skills while being a resource. The key is that you are doing what brings you closer to your goals.
@@x0xxx007i That's true. I didn't mean to imply that the company would mistreat you. I said that it is possible to further your goal while simultaneously helping others with theirs. This could either be a good thing or a bad thing depending on the goal and its intention.
I worked in retail 6 days a week for 48 hours in one company. In other company 6 days a week for 50 hours sometimes it can extend until 70 hrs a week (with no rest days). And I was on a shifting schedule too - I skipped meals and I had little sleep sometimes. We had no really health benefits, no night differentials, minimum to slightly above minimum wage. I asked myself, what's the purpose of all of these? My routine was work - staff house and sometimes church (once in 3 months or once in a blue moon). But I was used to it and loved the chaotic lifestyle until my health was at peril. At the end of the day when I was at the hospital? Nobody visited me from the HR department and they didn't even processed my social security. I also noticed that you can be replaced anytime and sentimentality is not entertained once an employee resigned. I mean, yes we held despidida party or felt sad that s/he'd be going away. But the next day s/he's gone? We continued on our work as if nothing happened. We tend to forget that that person even existed in the company in the first place. To be honest, I understand that 2:49 , 4:00 sentiments.
Yawina Rada Dont listen to that satan. That satan jack ma is fuckin ugly. I bet his personality is uglier than his face Just find your love and enjoy ur life mate
Gorn of Doom And to mention it is built on the labor of other countries to begin with. Germany even steals money from other European countries through the banking system up until today, because the USA/Israel decided it would become one of the surplus countries of their global banking cartel and they are ruled by them, that money goes straight to Israel and the USA through reparations for WW2 and so called trade deals, we are talking about hundreds of Billions yearly. While regular German's wealth is dropping every year, you are talking about them working shorter, while they have to be on stand by the whole day because of their lousy "flexible" on call jobs. Give me a break.
@@lanjicucksmoke3034 for me it does not sound genuine. It seems like it's cooked up textbook answer to please a boss. And i bet nobody would enjoy working like slave without extra monitory benefits.
@@vegetassj1629 she never said she didnt get extra benefits tho. pretty sure elon musk works 14 hrs a day. Its easy to work long hours when you are passionate about what you do.
@@vegetassj1629 "her tone was as though she was greatful for her employer to make her work like a slave and that there is nothing wrong with it" There are those out there that genuinely love working. Theyre called workaholics. She is one of them. And because she loves working, there is indeed nothing wrong with it.
When you do some high-end work and complete a project, you will have a sense of accomplishment. The work she refers to is definitely not the work of ordinary waiters, the work of low-level workers.
In my opinion, there's no point in earning a lot of money if you don't have time to spend it because you're working. In my country ppl work long hours too, but not as much as 996, it's like from 8 am to 6~7 pm, 5 days a week.
I feel like its an asian subconscious thing to "work long, work hard" to secure a "happy and successful" life. Our parents and their parents are hammered into thinking that way, and thats all they know how to think. They then in turn hammer that into us. But times have changed and we need to change as well. Source: me and my family.
Im indonesian and my company inplemented this method. I think what important is teaching people to be willing to work, this is kind of forced and i can feel them
996 only if you working on your own business to achieve a goal/dream of yours. If you doing that for a huge corporation that is insane. What is the point of wasting your life away inside of a office?
i never work... i wake up 5am start preparing my mini home restaurant,, done at 7-8pm everyday except chinese newyear.. longer time than 996? no big deal.. i love what i do.. its not much, wont be able to be reach jackma fortune, but its honest living, and i sleep well every single day.. its your choice, what u wanna do in you life.. pick a life time route and dont ever regret not doing what u love.
Most of the people don't work what they love to do. They just work so that they can survive. Overtime doesn't give extra money. Companies just pay for 8 hours. You are lucky that you get to work what you love.
dude its your own business. all of your hardwork ultimately benefitted you. but its not the case for workers, no matter how much they work the majority of the income still goes to the owners while the workers suffers. that how rich getting more rich and poor becomes poorer because they have to pay for medical bills because their health is failing resulting from overwork
All this is Jake Ma sending this poisonous idea telling others work their asses off so he can get more money. He's trying to say 'see, you can be the next Jake Ma'. Remember, he maybe worked hard before just like that, or even more but the big difference is he was working for himself, not another ass hole.
Asian Boss can you do a video of what Chinese people think of sexual slavery of China of North Korean Women what Chinese people think of that and what can be done to combat it?
Jack Ma is a 21st century warlord. I certainly hope there are enough Chinese workers who will resist him. First there were the emperors, then there was Mao...now there's Jack Ma.
Don't compare Ma Yun with Mao, Ma Yun is not worthy. Mao was a poet, a military strategist, a statesman, and a revolutionary. His biggest mistake is the Cultural Revolution, but in other respects China cannot live without him. Jack Ma is dispensable, he can be replaced, he is just a lucky businessman.
As of 2021 Jack Ma has been rebuked by the Chinese government and 996 is now illegal there as well. The Chinese paramount leaders will never share power with the wealthy. They will make examples of anyone who tries to buy political influence or usurp power (i.e. Jack Ma and Chinese tech firms). American politicians should take the lesson on what real power looks like.
I personally end up spending many hours outside the contracted workday without overtime pay. It’s what teachers do if we want to be able to keep up with 175 students. Most people don’t realize teachers do this, unless they know a one personally, and even then they sometimes don’t understand why it has to be done. I would prefer to be able to cut down my 10 hour days though.
LOL, As a youth's role model , Jack Ma's image has collapsed in China since he recently said Young man should work 996 at the company and doing 669 (having 6 times sex a week to make more babies)at home in a group wedding ceremony.
I am not working right now and did not knew about 996 concept.. But working 6 days a week, from 9am to 9pm and not having much time for yourself is not sustainable and definitely a benefit for the company only and not for ones health and happiness.. That is actually sickening.. High stress will just weakens your body.. even how much active you were before entering a company with 996 concept... You will start to deteriorate in the long run. And it is not like you can switch job too easily I am happy that most interviewees find this 996 concept disgusting as well.... and you could tell from the interviewees stature/looks from where you get their responses... Just like the two ladies who agrees with the 996 concept..
And not just these they don't think about how much time commuting takes, some people commute for 4 hours a day because of traffic.... So with an schedule like that you wouldn't be able to rest enough, you will be able to sleep for 3 to 4 hours a day
I think that 6 hours are already enough, or at least 8 hrs not in a row. You work less but harder, then you have the rest of the day to improve your brain, body and soul with different activities. Young people need more social experience to grow their civil, ethic and humanity skills, they do not need more working hours. The absence of a personal life also hightly affect your job, so you can do it for a short period of time. In Italy we still have 8 hrs of work fortunately :)
Some retails have 'almost' this type of practice. I tried 2 comapanies in retail: the other was 8 hrs 6 days a week. The 2nd one was 52 hrs (6 days) sometimes 70 hrs a week (if no restdays) esp on peak seasons. I was on a shifting sched. And usually doing night shifts for overtime (because I'm single haha). But there are no night differentials, no health benefits really 😐 Got sick and the HR didn't even processed my sss. 😐
