We actually do, this speaker was chosen for her ability to lie and keep a straight face. I never understood why we sang God Save The Queen in school. But now I know.
I laughed when she said “we have a freedom of expression, but not a freedom to offend”. That is so contradictory, without counting the fact that offence is a subjective matter, while freedom itself is objective. Australia is extremely flawed when it comes to freedoms. Freedoms such as speech should not be ‘granted’, rather, they should be upheld. Maybe my home Australia will change, soon.
Exactly. The rules aren’t even clear either. What if the police and judges decide to enforce any phrase that could be taken as an insult? I could see this easily including a lot of political speech.
@Aussie Pom How do we know, that they're not doing that, just now..!? We all know that, "they'll only tell us, what they only want us to know"..!! As it is, they're making their own rules up, as they go. And "apparently" we already have rules in place for us..!! And yes, ppl r gunna ask/say how, why & when etc.. etc.. The Government r so Corrupt..!! It wouldn't surprise me. Nothing would, when it comes to the Government..!!
I hope young people such as my generation change that as we grow into society. No longer should the government be able to oppress peoples’ liberties under the ambiguous guise of stopping “offense”. No man should tell another what he can think and say in a free land, any government saying otherwise is at least partially tyrannical from my American perspective.
We are a lot better off than some countries who have a "freedom of speech" right - the great USA being one, now the United Kingdom with "so called "Hate Sprech"
I have never given anyone permission to curtail my freedom of speech. Megalomaniac governments can inflict violence upon me for speaking but my right to speak is innate.. It exists regardless of some statute bullshit that some stranger writes. A far greater crime than speaking is the countless acts of intimidation and violence that the corporate "government" perpetrates continuously.
If you're alleged right existed under CC then it would require your permission to bring about the abridgement of that freedom ie. Amendment under 128. There is no right, expressed or implied
you have the freedom to state your mind or express your opinion so long as when you do so you do not cause me some harm which is based on an untruth. If you do then I can apply to the Courts to recover damages from you. I you maliciously invent an accusation against me and someone decides to do me physical harm then under statute law (the Crimes Act) you could be charged with incitement to cause violence. Under the Australian system you have responsibilities. you have freedoms when you exercise those freedoms responsibly
Freedom of speech is to say whatever u want, when u want, how u want, wherever u want! If there are restrictions then it isn’t freedom of speech. Simple!
Speech isn't just sound that comes out of your mouth, it is better expressed as 'thought'. Freedom of speech doesn't permit threats and intimidation or libel, its meant to be a principle that protects your ability to express your thoughts, creatively, politically and religiously.
@YASHARALAH KONNICHIWA ARIGATO Yes, as a principle. Australia doesn't accept freedom of thought and expression as a right though. People have a right not to be offended here and 'offensive' art can be an offense. Here the argument is free speech just means the public and press can debate policy freely without the threat of sedition charges, its based on need and utility. Even if we did have the right there are always limitations, you can say pretty much anything in the US at anytime but not anywhere. Like people can't walk around in public spaces with pornographic material printed on their shirts. Its usually pretty reasonable.
Freedom of Speech or NOTHING, hate speech does not exist. Incitement to violence should be the ONLY restriction of freedom of speech, because that's when words suddenly become meaningless.
torts for demonstrable damages as a result of speech should also be allowed. For instance if you intentionally lie about a product that I sell and I can prove that lie resulted in damages to my brand or the sales of the product, you should be liable to cover those damages. This is where liable and slander comes in.
Whilst I agree that Australia needs a Bill of Rights, I disagree that we need it 'now'. Our parliament is currently infested with virtue signaling far-left ideologues. Can you imagine what would end up in it?
How can an Australian Comedian make. a living if its freedom of expression but not a freedom to offend ? People can choose to get offended over anything....
It helps to be in a position of power to say what you want. I had worked at a school run by Sisters of Mercy nuns. A cover up needed to take place so to discredit me the school leaders placed a written false report about me in my file. I told other staff the true story and was sacked for speaking. My union said the boss has the right to sack me for bringing them into disrepute even if I spoke the truth, had a need to speak and the truth is not in dispute. Also this video owner has the power to silence my freedom of speech with a click of the button. I have also noticed that when my youtube comments get deleted the comment is still there if I are logged in but I are the only person who can see the comment. I will write a comment that I make, which gets deleted all the time. I will click out of this comment and if you don't see a comment about Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane) you will know my next comment was deleted. Also my story about what happened at the school is too long for here but if people wished to read google innuendo test blog and google white lies test blog.
In Australia we are FORCED to vote for either Labor or Liberal, yes forced, if we vote for somebody else we still have to vote either Labor or Liberal. Think about that. Most things I care about are bipartisan. That means it doesn't matter who you vote for you vote for the same lizards.
@Aussie Pom you still have to register to vote. Such a hassle. Politics is a lie… it doesn’t change a thing honestly, they are the same party no matter if labour or lib wins… so. I’m happy not voting. And not paying my fine either. What are they going to do? I don’t have a license they can suspend.
@@milkglassfairy7641 No. You don't have to vote. You have to get your name crossed off by post or by attending a polling place. But you don't have to vote. You may as well vote once you're there - even if it's just for the joke parties.
High court implied right has been up held. Lets not forget Kirby's ' some commonlaw rights are so deeply imbedded that parliament may not over ride.' A bill of rights is less secure because it is merely another act of parliament and can be manipulated for political ends.
Democratic country have Bill of Rights, why is Australia only country with out a Bill of Rights why is that, new Zealand has a Bill of Rights to protect their citizens against government abuse and neglect of freedom and privacy from the government its not just amercia not only. That the Bill of. Rights should protect Aussies from joining the world so if war happens Volentueer service could be forced on Aussies!!!!
Sadly does not count as international law as we know it more or less happened after WWII. So all events before that are not going to be looked at through modern interpretations of international law.
We were transferred as cattle under the states from the UK, with a dash of federalism It was all about the management.. We have not fought for freedom against tyranny as a people. Creation of a two tiered society could be the start of a revolution. By unification of diverse groups who have a common tyrannical enemy, there will be sufficient numbers for at least a political reversal of overrreach.
A lot is written about the damage done to children who were abused. But the damage done to those falsely accused can be just as devastating. Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane) had his life made miserable by people calling him a pedophile and pervert. He hit out by shooting 16 children and the teacher dead. I are yet to read about a single child or parent to come forward to directly accuse Hamilton of even a minor sexual offence so it seems to me he was falsely accused. It might be just a matter of time before an innocent man gets falsely accused and explodes like Hamilton did.
Pretty pathetic for a legal video to refer to a landmark free speech case in the High Court of the Commonwealth of Australia and show the coat of arms of NZ and the ABC logo when the case was brought by Australian Capital Television not the ABC.
You should all learn the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia. Those are our true laws and it's written in plain English for everyone to understand because they are OUR LAWS. If you don't learn them they cannot protect you.
The law in Australia doesn't provide for free speech, but it can and does restrict what the people who created it are allowed to say, hear, read, think and do (No different to Pol Pot or Kim jong un really?). Australians fought and died defending this country from fascism, communism and currently religious fanaticism. They stopped and are still trying to stop any attempts at controlling our rights and freedom including we are allowed to say and think. So I also get "offended" when I hear people so blithely sacrificing what few rights we have left as if it's nothing, and not being able to do a thing about it, except at election time. Unfortunately, the big three all support replacing what little Australian culture there is with multiculturalism (or a type of Disneyland multiculturalism with all the costumes and none of the bad bits like ethnic and religious violence that these same people supposedly escaped from and left behind to start a new life in Australia. If I want to see another culture I can visit unless it's unsafe and they might kill me in the name of their religion because of what I look like (i.e. white Australian male, an endangered minority like the rhino in a world context). My right to swing a fist ends where the other persons nose begins. It shouldn't extend to someone being arrested and imprisoned just because they've hurt someone else's feelings by what they say, if they genuinely believe it). It's called being an adult. Otherwise both parties end up being offended, and then who is right? Is it fair one side should be legally gagged and intimidated for having genuine concerns about an issue. This is unjust and quite reasonably causes resentment and frustration and if not addressed goes underground and festers, which is literally just hiding the problem. So yeah let's have free speech, We deserve it.
Spot on. We are born with a right to freedom (speech, movement etc) and we must not surrender it. BTW do people know how many Australians got to vote for the constitution 1900?Look it up, you might be unpleasantly surprised.
Who determines what these bounds of freedom of speech should be. It is fairly obvious that Silicon Valley has taken on that role on their associated platforms BUT is that their role?
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Constitution? What is this constitution you speak of? On numerous occasions, when pressing (formerly Commonwealth) 'Public Servants' about Constitutional rights I've been told "the Constitution is no longer relevant" apparently after duping Elizabeth R into giving assent to the Whitlam Government's treasonous act of Defacing of the Great Seal of the Commonwealth then with Royal assent, replaced with New Great Seal of Australia proclaiming the Queen of Australia without due process by way of the Royal Style and Titles Act 1973 plus the Australia Act 1986 rid us of boring old 'The Commonwealth of Australia' title giving us the likes of 'Australian Government'. All done without a Referendum vote by all eligible citizens
A lot of people get falsely accused of sexual offences against children. Informers have the right to say what they like and stay anonymous and the accused is not even allowed to know what was said. About 1990 a sexual offender was active who abducted young girls and when he finished with them, he released them. But Karmein Chan was not released but murdered. The police and media called on the public to nominate a suspect. 27,000 men were named. Of these 73 were charged with an offence (not connected to the murder) 73 in 27,000 is about 1/4 of 1% so that suggests how easy it is to get falsely accused or suspected. (That was just a background as to why I make the next comment that keeps getting deleted)
@Aussie Pom The situation you just mentioned, at least those involved were told what they had alegded to have done. In my case I was not even allowed to know what was said about me. The police contacted the school where I had worked to ask questions. The media had been telling what a great job the police were doing by uncovering nests of pedophiles. I think that a pedophile witch hunt is taking place and even being friendly to a child is enough to get accused of being a pedophile.
How does the law see Reappropriation Vocabulary. Such as, the cultural process by which a group reclaims words. Aka cultural context of the use of the N-word amongst African Americans within their own communities?
I thought that the UN charter which Australia is a signatory gives, us Australians the right to free/freedom of speech! Correct me if I am wrong please. Please cut to the chase too much word salad, don't compare USA to Australia.
So what about scotty from marketing's unconstitutional nation cabinet (read star chamber) after he suspended parliament Australia being one of the few countries to allow that to happen????That is why all the con virus rules have been expressed as rules and not law as they where not legislated through a sitting parliament and passed as laws.The use of the emergency health act is so fraught with holes it makes Swiss cheese look whole .
Australian freedom doesn't exist. Even if you aren't poor and can pay the freedom taxes ( for smoking, drinking and permits for camping like activities like sites, fires, singing fishing and hunting etc.) can you call it freedom if you can't order a beer after 11 pm? I laughed at the movie the demolition man back in the day believing that level of control with never exist. boy am I surprised now.
Such lefty propaganda. There are discussions for and against human rights acts and so on, but this came across as a propaganda piece for one side. And, by the way, despite how much you want this to be the case, international law 'does not technically apply to Australian law.' In fact, 'international law' does not apply to Australian law - at all. There is nothing technical about it.
yeh but that is okay if I have no rights as an Australian ... I'm an Aussie we accept anything from the government as long as it's for our health and safety..
Okay let's give this university content a whirl, surely can't be too bad ...one sentence in and you're already fuckin wrong. Okay so this was freedom of speech on a legal, big picture stage, but what about on a social and day to day occurrence? Didn't think a uni would wanna hint as to why they might be wrong on fuckin everything
