When we were all in school, we knew the feeling of someone grabbing our fingers and pulling on them. But do finger locks work in a street fight? Self Defense instructor James Hundon takes us through a deep dive on finger locks.
As a Martial artist and retired law enforcement officer, I know that Ju Trap Boxing is the most practical form of martial arts for law enforcement. I taught defensive tactics in the academy, and I know many techniques were impractical. However, learning a few finger-locks from Professor Hundon made my job much easier. In altercations where other officers were trying to grab an armbar or joint-lock, I could subdue the subject with a simple finger-lock. So, yes, Professor Hundon, your finger-locks definitely work.
Hyphenated * finger locks definitely works* on drunken morons your bigger than* what about the vids of cops being double legged by drunken 18yr old wrestlers and begging for they life did u train those cops too?
Absolute street effective applied Martial Arts theory! As a Martial Arts practitioner of over 50 years, I am in awe of the simplicity of his interpretation of "Lock flow", and anatomical joint weakness exploitation! Bravo! Genius! I salute you! He is at a metaphysical level of flowing the spirit of warfare!
@@christophermalpede924 I agree, it's all choreographed & he knows what's coming, in a real fight it's chaotic & much faster, isn't proper sparring speed.
yes sir, one of the best tools for unarmed security/bouncing, land one of those locks properly & walk 'em right out the front door ! The Budo brings us The Best, yet again🙏🏼
I've used finger locks a lot as a bouncer, and it works wonders, when youre trying to get someone to listen to you, when they wouldnt otherwise. It's also a good way to pacify would be aggressors.
Also get sued if you punch someone in the face. Wrist locks (hand locks/multiple finger locks) are perhaps a happy medium without breaking fingers, and are used to "peaceably" subdue people by many police force personnel around the world.
They work like anything else works. It depends on the situation and attacker. Same as bullets some drop in 1 or 2 some need more pain, technique is technique. He's showing u how it can or could work. Those that practice these things on a regular will be more efficient. But if u study n try it for 10 minutes with your RU-vid expertise good luck
Small circle jujitsu is a great martial art. It’s the best I’ve found in all my years in bad neighborhoods. Everything he used was exactly what I’ve been taught in small circle. Has professor Wally Jay used to say feeling makes believing.
Wow I can’t believe how much I enjoy watching this video as a kick boxer many years ago listening to a real instructor that demonstrates the importance of explaining the actual effects of what the technique does and how to execute it properly very good instructor and instruction 👊🏽
I've worked security in some extremely dangerous clubs (a couple that the police wouldn't go inside of unless there was an actual 9-11 call for them), and have used finger locks for control on a number of occasions. I picked them up after a small circle jiujitsu seminar I attended once, and love them. Properly applied, they allow a lot of control with very little exertion. A nice side effect is that it's also a deterrent for anyone watching, because the control looks effortless. When they see you walk a guy out the door without even breaking a sweat, and he's screaming in pain with the slightest resistance, onlookers are a lot less inclined to start shit with you themselves.
@christophermalpede924 nope. Im 60 and body is busted up. I'm not wrastlin no fuckin body today. Today, it is sum gun fu. I have screws, plates, plastic, and I ain't going thru that shiznit again
I'm not a bjj/MMA practitioner, but I have been practicing Aikido for a couple of years, which has a lot of wrist locks, some of which could be translated to finger locks. I've had my wrist tweaked a few times during Aikido practice. If it had been a finger lock practice, I would have had several broken fingers in my 2 years of practice. I imagine a bjj/MMA fighter doesn't want several/any broken fingers after each fight, putting them out of fighting or training for several weeks, and possibly finishing their career. So it's similar to the no eye gouging rule. The use of gloves/mitts also means that easily accessing and kranking the fingers is difficult.
@clivearmitage if this were the reason then ankle locks or any other type of joint manipulation would be banned. Blown knees and dislocated shoulders have put many fighters and BJJ competitors out for months and even ended careers.
@@michaelcohen91 I'm not saying that bjj/MMA practitioner never get hurt, but obviously fingers (like eyes) are slightly less tough than knees, shoulders and elbows. So whilst "accidents" happen, finger locks (and illegal eye gouging) would be a great way to ensure that you never had any opponents willing to fight you, so you'd be finished as a fighter.
@@clivearmitage fair enough, but I think that if the threat of broken fingers is enough to keep a fighter out of the ring, or even keeps grapplers from gaining certain advantages or positions, that's strong evidence that there is a place for small joint manipulation in a real fight
@@michaelcohen91 I totally agree. That's what I'm saying. Finger and wrist locks are an effective form of pain compliance/fight ending bone breaks, if you can get them on.
I used to teach this combined with Aikido, Pressure Points and Wing Chun but more like Chin-Na style, the result is the same, take control within the first attack.
I took use any technique that works and this works I use something similar to his style I taught myself this back in school to stop people from touching me I see the hand movements before they do and it's already too late as I bend twist almost break but not too much thank you sir I respect your technique
Dude when your finger is bent backwards and at the point of breaking and being dislocated the pain is insane. There are so many nerves in your hand it's ridiculous. You are going to go to your knees and scream like a baby.
Came here after watching some of Wally Jay's first small circle jujitsu video. I know that understanding and manipulating joints 100% works but I was looking for something recent that talks about it. I know this video isn't strictly sc jujitsu but it's uses a lot of the fundamentals.
In a full fledged street fight high velocity and high aggression. No this stuff usually can't be applied. In subtle aggressive unpredicted random situations where it's close up and usually not an actual fight, more like an altercation or argument, then yes these techniques are highly effective.
If I was ever in shape I'd take Small Circle from Professor Hundon or that (tough Ass) student of his. Can you imagine how trained his student is? I can tell Instructor Hundon can also spar well! ♥
They can iIF you can get them. The only way to know would be to put on MMA gloves, spar full contact and see if you can get them. This kind of one step, slow mo technique training is ok to learn the technique, but wont help against a real opponent trying to smash your face in.
Seems like he has a willing subject here.. There's a lot of self defense guys and 52 block guys on line saying this stuff don't work in prison and in street fights.. especially for young students ! I've noticed that most comments that say this stuff works are folks that have been practicing for years and are bouncers who are probably big strong dudes.. The "Jail House rock" and systems that have been "Time Tested" and proven to work on the street are more believable .. I'd like to see the old guy in some real fighting in the ring ...MMA to see if it works on those guys !
Давайте жыть дружно, а потом будь что будет. Удивительная позиция Леопольда )) Либеральные утопии как раз и привёли к тому что без кровопролития уже не возможно разобрать эти завалы романтических фантазий.
They worked for me against 3 larger stronger murderers who tried to kill me in the wee hours after midnight awaken from rem sleep. They had ever advantage. The Lord was my protection as He helped me to carry out my training in the most serious applications. Yes, wrist and finger locks work and God is good.
Lots of guys who been in jail say that stuff don't work in the real world unless you're bigger and stronger than the other guy.. the speed is the issue.. This teacher is knowledgeable but this slow choreographed examples from willing participants is nothing like street fighting.. You'd have to train relentlessly for years for it to be affective.. Them "Jail House Rock" dudes say they can have you up and running in weeks or months ! Stuff that's been tested behind the wall !
Finger locks does not mean finger break. It means very intense pain to the point you think it's going to break. If you've never done it before and never felt it before it too easy to dismiss that it does not work. Like just any other techniques, you practice to make it work for you.
In a perfect choreographed scenario like the one you and your student are doing, yes. In an ALL out fight...Ive never seen anyone or my self do it. As pain compliance after a take down, yes. Again, in an actual fight,never seen it done. Grand Master Moses Powell's who taught his own art Sanuces, and who I got the opportunity to go and meet as a kid while living in NYC were i grew up, & train with, 2x's, Who was a very strict instructor, very skilled from what I remember, and one of his students, Now professor D. Sergeant, who was a good friend whom I trained under and through his lineage, I received my Black Belt via master R. Jones, I BELIEVE it was called back then, Ka Mau Ru...in any street scenario or in my 30 PLUS years in security that included prisons, I've never seen a finger t ake down in a fight...
I worked as a bouncer and yes these things can happen. Mist people in the world today are inexperienced in combat. And each generations experiences it less. This is why everyone has a gun now too. "A tool made for weaker men.". And its true. How many people you know would actually fight. Or would have fought in a proper age? As a millenial, I woukd say 1 out of 50 would. And I have met an abundance of people. Most rather talk or ignore the problem. Lots of people talk that they fight. Very few back it up.
Check out Professor Hundon's lineage. Professor Hundon lived in NY. Trained and received rank w/ GM Powell, Soke Lil' John and Robert Crosson, just to name a few. Just because you haven't seen it done or you can't do it doesn't mean it can't work. No disrespect.
No...they dont work on the street unless the other person dont punch or kick . If someone doesnt know nothing about fighting , it would work , probably , but if anyone has some boxing or kickboxing knowledge , this will NEVER work 🖖😉 ..enough said ! Bullshido have been around for quite sometimes , and depending in situation like law enforcement and maybe bodyguards and bouncers , this could work i guess since they cant really start punching someone in the face , but other than that.. in open areas like the street , this will not work when faced with an aggressive puncher kicker that is trying to knock you out . Best tactic is to keep hands high , tchin tocked , breath in and stay calm and move , when he stops trowing , you eye poke very fast , kick balls or just grab his coat and start kneeing one after the other till you get his head low enough for the fight ending knee !
