Do I Regret Buying an E92 M3? 

Wrap at most was probably £2500 with ceramic coating:

​@dansully5927 he has gone to MonsterWraps, who are first class outfit, I knew someone who had their M2 Comp wrapped with 3M wrap, doors, shuts and returns, and its came out in the end at £5.5k, so most definitely isn't £2.5k as Inozetek are one of the highest quality brands!

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I'm rebuilding an E46 and I couldn't agree more. Preventative maintenance/repairs first then aesthetics. But if you have the money, there is no order.

Sounds like he didn’t have a budget. Nice if you’re in that position. Not many of us are, ever.

It's this stuff that scares that crap out of me about owning one. I could afford the repairs, but I don't want to afford the repairs! Especially if a whole heap of stuff goes wrong like you have sadly experienced.

@matthewwaldrup149 20k sounds like a blown engine and trans. The stuff you mentioned is just regular maintenance stuff, $400-500 in parts.

@@justfasial01 they wanna charge $4500 to replace alternator.. it’s a $300 part and 1.5hrs labor. That’s why the estimate is so high. They wanna charge me almost 6k to do throttle actuators. I got an estimate from my Indy mechanic parts and labor everything except the throttle actuators bc he can’t order them from where he gets his stuff so I’d have to order myself. But his estimate was 4k

@@matthewwaldrup149 $4500 for alternator is robbery.

All of those things were could do on a weekend for the price of parts

Had my manual 2011 for 6 yrs, not usually a daily, haven't done anything other than fluids but only 56k miles. Still love it, pristine, 2nd owner.

You guys get punished for these in UK. Have 2011 manual, 2nd owner for 6yrs, only 56k miles, done nothing but fluids and tires. Here in Commifornia it's relatively affordable I guess.

@@Mrbfgray fuel also. Equivalent of over $7 per gallon

@@ksm1985 Right, I was thinking that would be the biggest cost, in the US it's less than $4, which is high for us, but it's around $5 for "premium" here in Cali, we pay a tax for our terrible state politics.

I paid around 30k for my E90 a few years ago, probably still worth similar now as still yet to hit 20k miles and I have only spend money on consumables like tyres. The key here is not to buy a POS that needs everything replacing.

Engine destruction is not inevitable if the rod bearings are replaced (on top of routine maintenance and not thrashing it when cold of course). Sorry to hear of your son's engine destroying itself 🙁. Out of interest, did he report the case to any M3 forums? Bought mine with 76k on the clock, only used as a weekend car and a couple of track days each year, now on 81k. I replaced the rod bearings (I'm a mechanic, so of course saving labour costs), TAs, clutch & f/wheel and front tyres were changed by previous owner. I replaced the rear tyres, 2 rear susp links, rear pads (I cooked them at Snetterton!) and front pads and discs last year (all pads are DS 2500s now). Bought car for 14.7k Nov 2019 when prices (by chance) were much lower! Not spent anywhere near £15k!😱

@@Assimilator1 I worked in the motor trade for many years, in parts departments, so I can appreciate the costs, and what can be saved if you do have the tools and knowledge to work on a car yourself. I'm not sure if he is on any forums, it's not my 'son' you see, it's a lad my mate's daughter was dating, but we chatted often as I had a tuned M140i at the time so we had a lot in common. Yours sounds like a well cared for example, and if you have the tools and knowledge to do the work, yes they are a great investment. Sadly I see lots for sale with 50-60 thousand miles on, and no bearing replacement done yet, which (if you are not a mechanic and have to pay a garage) is now a £3500-£4000 job. Still a lot cheaper than a full rebuild if it eats itself of course !! @ben2155 You paid £30k for yours, very good, but if it only has 20k miles on it now, it must have been a very low mileage example when you bought it, and hence why it cost 30 grand. Unless you keep it in a garage forever though, the mileage will rise, and eventually you will have to do the shells, and unless you're a mechanic like the other gent I replied to, that's a big bill.

@@DjNikGnashers I thought a garage job for rod bearings would be about £2.5-3k?

@@Assimilator1 I guess it depends where in the UK you are, different areas have very different labour rates matey. I estimated on a Jag dealership, but if you truest a good indy then I bet your estimate would be pretty much on the money.

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Yeah so say those who haven't owned or driven nor could afford one. I've had no issues in 6 yrs. Throttle actuators are expected to fail and trivial to fix. You should be worried about fuel economy.

Tell em about it. I was fortunate enough to buy a pristine 2011 E92 M3 last month. It only had 10k miles on it. I couldn’t help think who the hell buys a car like this and doesn’t drive it? lol

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What went wrong? Or do you mean routine repairs and maintenance?

@@Assimilator1that’s what I want to know too

@@Assimilator1 neither were M3’s unfortunately, first was a 320d and the timing chain snapped on one of the links, needed engine out to replace. Second was 325i all 6 injectors failed, £100 each + labour and 2 other garages not knowing fully the issue so wasted another £300 diagnosing it. I love the the e92 and bmw in general just you know when somethings telling you it’s not the right car for you 😂

@@pad3357 Oh dear, bad luck 🙁, yea the N47 engine is (was?) known for timing chain issues. All 6 injectors failed?? That seems absurdly unlikely, unless you mean they were worn out, e.g poor spray patterns, from very high miles?? Sounds very odd. But yea, I see why you'd be put off! lol The M3 doesn't suffer from timings chain issues normally, but their are the occasional injector failures....

That doesn’t make any sense at all.

@Dou6.2 well if you're ragging and drifting a car that is know to be unreliable, it will eventually break a lot sooner than if it wasn't. It's funny because he's slating how unreliable it is but drifting it round corners.. hope that clears it up for what seems to be, only you that's confused

Drive it what it’s meant for I say

No it all depends on the vehicle you purchase and how well it has been maintained. You cannot compare sports car to a Honda or a Toyota it's like comparing a racing horse to a mule.

I’ve had my E46 M3 CS for 18 years and up until recently used it daily - as long as you look after it and maintain it as required it’s a great car. Across all those years and 145k miles it broke down twice. It’s how you treat them !!

Newer ones are much different though, super reliable!

They prob changed him 600-750

$23,300

I did n/a and gapped. 335d hybrid turbos and it could not pull from my m3. Especially high speed - it wasn’t build for straight line speed. It’s a precision tool.

Will be fine,I’m supercharged and it gets tracked and it’s been brilliant. So many people ain’t got a clue.

How much did it cost (parts and labour)? There is a "hack" where you can buy a new one, take the innards out of the old one and put the new gubbins into the old housing, which means you don't need to remove the starter, which I gather is a mammoth task. I'd appreciate it if you could reply to let me know 🙏🙏

@@rossfripp4503 £600 - £700 back in 2019? That was for new starter motor and the labour time to do it due it being located right in the centre of the engine unfortunately. I had to jump start my car for a while until it was done.

@@rossfripp4503I done it myself a few weeks ago not too much of a job just very fiddly. Took me 5 hours but saved £700

Yet here you are, back on moaning about it AGAIN, but returning, AGAIN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Why? Massive down grade and tons more issues

@@RotrexfezST why because I've had mine for over 3 years ,from standard, iv had k&n ,back box ,intercooler, charge pipe & stage 1 map which produces 420 hp ,reliable hp,which i thrash daily with my heavy foot, & nothing gone wrong so far 3 yrs strong,so ther you go.

@@sohale745 because it’s not just about power the whole m3 is a level above a 335i. Looks,chassis engine everything.

@@sohale745 I’ve 638hp for 4 years and 449 for 3 years before that I’ve had zero problems with the engine or car so I win LOL

@@RotrexfezST yeah,I agree, but you can't knock the n54,they are both brutal in there own little ways,the m3 is a bimma,the n54 is a beamer 👍🏽

Well if you drive it like a lunatic it will break..this engine can take piles of punishment handed to it

240i is not even in the same league. This is an m car not an m lite. If you want to drive a car you need an m3. If you want a soft road car that’s cheap to go fast but handles like a boat then you have the right car!

Yeah no point selling after doing all this work