Do not make this stupid mistake - Intel Core i9-13900K build with Asus ROG Strix Z790-A

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I made a stupid mistake while building a new Intel 13th Gen PC. Or at least while trying to do so.
Asus had kindly sent me the ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4
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And Intel sent the Intel Core i9-13900K. So I was planning on stripping my machine down and rebuilding it with these new parts. Plus a few NVMe SSDs and 64GB of Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 ram. Then I hit a snag.
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This is a bit of a stupid oversight on my part. Not an issue for me (apart from extra expense) but it's worth keeping in mind that even the newest Z790 motherboards come with the option of DDR4 or DDR5 RAM compatibility. It is one or the other. You cannot use both. So take care when buying.
There are still arguments for using DDR4. It's cheaper and there are less issues with XMP. In other words it's more stable but it can also have lower timings compared with DDR5. So if you're looking to save money by re-using DDR4 RAM from your current build then buying this sort of motherboard then that's a good plan. but for me it's just going to delay content 😭😭😭
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@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

The final product is here if you want to see it :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4vc2P-nnY5E.html

@zillwinter9160 Год назад

Hi! sorry to disturb you but can i ask whether it's a good idea to pair 13700K with 240mm aio on top mount or should i go 360mm aio on the front mount??? cause my case is not that big and i dont know which one i should buy.

@jamieclarke2694 Год назад

Oh my god I unscrewed my cpu latch thing to replace with the lga1700 bracket for the pressure and I was stupid and let the back plate fall off. This is the first video, image, or website including gigabytes own and this was the first video that showed me which way round it is on the back of the mobo so thank you! 😅 saved my ass today. Liked and subscribed for that reason, and the video itself is good too

@Tachyshor Год назад

Means can i pair intel i9 13900k with this mobo? Ddr4 version? I don't want any type of issue in future Is this mobo future proof mean i want to pair it with i8 13900k Am i going to face any issue?

@ivandominicaballe349 Год назад

@TheProvokedPrawn It says on the box, D4. It meant the board is DDR4

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

To the people leaving negative comments, I'm fully aware it was a stupid mistake and I'm an idiot. That's why I put it in the title. Not everyone is as knowledgeable about which parts fit with what and it's unusual for modern tech not to work with the latest parts. D4 in the title of the product is hardly 100% clear that it's DDR4 only. I was sent the motherboard and made an assumption, with limited time I didn't research before I started building as I didn't have much time and it takes hours to build a PC while also recording footage from multiple angles for videos and build guides. There's no need to be obnoxious.

@davidbrennan5 Год назад

I have ordered a few things I couldn't use because I didn't look closely at the details, it happens. People make mistakes, admitting them right away and moving forward instead of dwelling on them is best in my experience.

@Mu7eD-Stream Год назад

I have to support you here with the speed of delivery from UK tech companies such as scan ie next day or even same day in some circumstances and the fact almost every UK town has a PC shop, getting access to some DDR4 to test would be extremely quick to the point where this mistake could easily have been hidden with a simple pause in filming. Those quick to judge are jealous and it's an easy way to troll. They are most likely still rocking their 7th Gen i5's or first gen ryzens dreaming of what it could be like. The point of the video is to make people pay attention to compatibility information before they make a purchase, not all generations are the same or backwards compatible. Added information in the UK you can RMA a product for any reason in the first 14 days if bought online therefore if you made this mistake at home it would be quick and easy to switch it out for a RAM of your choosing.

@Underground.Rabbit Год назад

not the first time internet hurt your feeling bro and fk the assholes

@Rzn8B58 Год назад

Perhaps you can give me some insight that would be greatly appreciated. I'm also building in a lian li dynamic xl and I'm also looking at this exact board for a white build and the strix F board for a black build. I'm wondering how do you connect all the usb front panel on the case to a board like this and the F models that have 1x3.2 gen2 header, only 1x3.2 gen1 header and 2x2.0 headers onboard? the lian li case needs 1x3.2 gen2 and 2x3.2 gen1 for all the front panel usb ports to function from what pcpartpicker is telling me and I was wondering if I can use a 3.2 gen1 Y splitter off of the boards only 3.2 gen1 header or would I need to use a 2.0 female to 3.2 20pin male adapter and hook up to one of the 2.0 headers? I find your video explanations helpful and detailed, especially the videos you have on going crazy with rgb fans. I've only built one system that I've been using for about 3 or 4 years now and I like this system the way it is (5.17 ghz on an i59600kf) and I want to build another 2 modern gpu/cpu systems for my Daughter and I. I wanted something with a lot of pink rgb in a white build for hers and a purple black for myself and yours and a few others videos demystified the process for me so, thanks.

@ReyderRisco Год назад

It is not a stupid mistake and you're not an idiot. things like this might happen to anyone. This is not about being more or less smart, this about being more thoughtful on your research before you buy. You just neglected to do proper research beforehand, at worst impatient and lazy but not an idiot 🤣

@Lexse Год назад

Why are people in the comment section being exceptionally rude? He made a simple mistake, don’t act like you haven’t either throughout the entirety of your lifetime, lol

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

And the hilarity is I only posted the video so others wouldn't do the same 🤣

@prometheusprime2004 2 месяца назад

CAUSE PEOPLE ARE PRETTY STRIX 😅😂😂😂

@prometheusprime2004 2 месяца назад

Like strict people be bitches some times y’feelme?

@GuestOfGregoryHouse Год назад

Can't wait to get started building my first pc. I ended up needing to buy a new case after realising the rtx4090 was going to be too big. Still struggling to get a 4090 anywhere though. I was even sat at 2pm on release day pondering too much on which one, wanting to see reviews first. And they all sold out in minutes 😔

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Damn. Sorry to hear it. I too have been on the hunt.

@lucid9099 Год назад

@@TheProvokedPrawn PCcasegear has plenty 4090's

@zigzack54 Год назад

@@lucid9099 for more than double the MSRP

@shiraz1736 Год назад

What’s the hurry , just stay at the back of the flock and wait 🐑.

@RivalGrimReaper Год назад

As an owner of a 4090 zotac amp extreme, would highly recommend, they look.the best of all the 4090 series cards imo, and they also have the longest warranty at 5 years. Been running mine hard for 2 weeks, and it never goes above 55 C°.

@devonespy2102 Год назад

They also make a Z790-A that takes DDR5 RAM (4x DIMM, Max 128gb, DDR5 Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory). Thank god I found this out before ordering or I would be in the exact same boat as you!

@smokethatgameb9937 Год назад

What’s the difference?

@deejay7339 10 дней назад

I was confused because mine absolutely takes DDR5

@ReyderRisco Год назад

This can also be avoided by sticking strictly to CPUs, RAM sticks and SSDs listed on the compatibility lists on the motherboard manufacturer's website. I hate terribly when something like this happens to me so I never stray from those lists.

@princekittipon6510 Год назад

i checked on asus rog z790 E gaming list and sk hynix p41 ssd m.2 is not on the list. will they still be compatible ? idk where to find answer to this i looked thru google already

@ReyderRisco Год назад

@@princekittipon6510 the compatibility of a SSD is not as problematic as that of RAM sticks. In theory, any SSD should work on any motherboard (if the form factor fits physically). Not listed there doesn't mean that it doesn't work it means that Asus hasn't test it yet.

@jcvjcvjcvjcv Год назад

Like those lists contain anything that is still available a year after the list was made...

@thedoctor7158 Год назад

@@jcvjcvjcvjcv Actually they do. Wasn't willing to spend an arm and a leg for the E of the model, but am getting the H and managed to find the compatible memory and parts easily.

@katsnow9256 Год назад

Great video, thank you! We all make mistakes in our builds ( I used to work as a line tech for a company that built servers). This happens to everyone at some point, especially when working fine print and new parts!

@908947 Год назад

The name of the board is completely "ROG Strix Z790-A Gaming WiFi D4". The "D4" = ddr4 ;)

@Comet-lv3nk Год назад

that comment you made near the end about the timings on ddr4 being much lower than on ddr5 means pretty much nothing, ddr5 has two channels per dimm and also has the power delivery built onto the ram itself whereas on ddr4 you can only get one channel per dimm and the power delivery is on the motherboard, and the bandwidth on ddr5 heavily outbalances the tighter timings on ddr4, especially when youre running xmp/docp on both as they are both going to be extremely loose (thanks to jedec subtimings, primaries dont matter much for performance).

@TransAmDan28 Год назад

Also CAS is based on clock cycles. So 6000mhz ddr5 compared to 3000mhz ddr4, even if your CAS timing were double the figures on DDR5 it would have the same access time as DDR4.

@Comet-lv3nk Год назад

@@TransAmDan28 yeah thing is cas, trcd(rd/wr), trp and tras do basically nothing for performance anyway, the subtimings do signifigantly more especially trrds/trrdl and tfaw, thats why theres no point in getting a, for example 3600 cl14 kit over a 3600 cl18 kit if your just gonna run xmp. if youre gonna oc then thats an entirely different story haha

@zacharywilliams9848 3 месяца назад

That sucks! But thank you for giving us the shots of the CPU latch down AND the taking off of the plastic on the glass. Those things are so oddly satisfying.

@Tuetensuppe3000 Год назад

You are making me nervous now. Ordered the motherboard, together with a 13700k earlier today. Though on the retailer website it clearly states DDR5. I just checked the ASUS site and it says DDR4. Well, contacted the retailer to check if it indeed is the D4 they are selling, or if it is the DDR5 one. Hoping for the latter. Thanks for the heads up! Possibly prevented quite the headache!

@animalyze7120 Год назад

The D4 is not reference to Ram, never has and never will be. Ram is always specified in the specs clearly as DDR then the number. D4 refers to part of the Model ID in the name. No way to make that mistake at all.

@t5kcannon1 Год назад

Excellent stuff. How did you obtain a raptor lake cpu? Thought the release date was 20th October.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

I'm kind of a big deal. Not really, I got one from my day job and for videos on machine builds

@TheManCaveMike Год назад

@@TheProvokedPrawn I was gonna say, with only 56k subs, who did you kill, rob or blow for it lol

@melcrose Год назад

It can be various, it can be different - BUT IT CANNOT BE "various different"

@DATRecords604 Год назад

I wonder why they decided to use ddr4 on this one. It seems to me this MB was absolutely perfect IF it had DDR5. The aesthetic is brilliant and the one I wanted to buy but won't cause of the ram. I wish they made a D5 version of this exact model. Does anyone know if they'll do it anytime soon?

@HenryBro54 Год назад

It only has this one the "ASUS Prime Z790-A WiFi 6E LGA 1700 " which is also white and with ddr5 supported but it's just not that good looking like this one the "Asus ROG Strix Z790-A" I am also wondering why they couldn't make this one as a ddr5 model.

@animalyze7120 Год назад

Because DDR5 is not relevant enough to warrant a complete redesign yet, neither is PCIe 4.0. Sure it's new but hardly exciting, the speeds are on level with DDR4 and upcoming higher end speeds are not fast enough over 4 to warrant upgrading to it. Ram jumps in 2 or even 3 stages is normal, if you're already sporting DDR4 then you won't be impressed till at least DDR6 maybe 7. It's just not that important unless you are crunching large amounts of data like the Seti project and such. Games no need for it yet.

@DATRecords604 Год назад

@@animalyze7120 I understand your point but at the same time it seems very strange that at this point in time, with the new technological advancements and PCI 5.0 they won't have a version of this board with D5. If one wants to build a new machine now with i13 should be just logical one embraces the new technology rather than the older. And a person can game and crunch data with the same machine, or do rendering like in my case and would benefit of the newest technology (also because one can change the D5 dimms later on and get more performing blocks in a few years perhaps, as opposed to D4 that probably won't advance much in speed/latency in the coming years).

@lukastemberger Год назад

Almost all z690 and z790 boards are available in ddr4 and ddr5 variants. It's the first and most important thing to check... Any minimal advantage that ddr5 has in terms of speed is not worth the huge price difference. It's just a temporary situation though.

@DATRecords604 Год назад

@@lukastemberger not this one though, which is a shame. I am waiting for the more expensive versions but this mb was perfect if it was d5 as i want to start with the new technology in my workstation

@maddogtannen69 Год назад

Just watching this now and bought this MB and made sure they gave me the right board

@Scorpiusza 5 месяцев назад

PC Part Picker helps make sure there are no compatability or bottleneck issues.

@dhplayground Год назад

Nothing new here, Strix Z690-a is also DDR4. I guess when you get stuff for free, you don't have to bother with things like research or using pcpartpicker :)

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Well yes. I am aware that the Z690 boards might have had DDR4 but I figured the newer generation wouldn't. I also had no say in what I was sent and they didn't mention it was DDR4. 🤣 So yes. I should have checked and this is why I made the video because not everyone will be as aware or as savvy as you. 👍😎

@daniellooi5096 Год назад

iirc I saw a version of strix Z690-A with DDR5, which is mostly circulating in the Chinese market, also it can be found on the website of Asus.

@dhplayground Год назад

@@TheProvokedPrawn I hadn't built a PC in 10 years, so I been binge learning/catching up in the last 6-8 weeks, which is how I ended up subscribing to your channel. My previous comment was written with humor in mind, nothing malicious btw :)

@hello_its_me. Год назад

@@TheProvokedPrawn never "figure" when it comes to any computer parts compatibility or what is supported. always go with tech spec facts and datasheets.

@hadferseveride9820 Год назад

The moment you said "Why i am an idiot" i read the motherboards name through the plastic... WIFI D4 ohhh noooo

@gregnezz Год назад

Thank you for the review. I'm about to buy the z690 version today. I would of automatically assumed that the z790 would of been ddr5, so its an easy mistake to make, especially if its someone like you already on ddr5.

@animalyze7120 Год назад

Well we all know what Assumption is the Mother of right? All Fuch-ups.

@soulfyre6521 Год назад

Z790-E uses ddr5 but not -A?

@hughmongous2554 Год назад

*would've

@patricklacey4946 9 месяцев назад

Happens to the best of us, more often than I care to admit lol

@TheProvokedPrawn 9 месяцев назад

😂

@Dysclosed Год назад

I DID THE SAME THING🤣. I ordered a 13900k with the asus z790 tuf D4 instead of the Asus z790 tuf regular DDR5. Caught it when it was in shipping and was able to start a return.

@jwdynamite Год назад

Broooooo I was literally in the process of making this mistake and found this video on my suggested. Just ordered some ddr5 ram to go with the upgrade to gen 13 you da best

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Nice

@Theunknownman52 Год назад

I found out I made the same mistake as you did. After I bought it 🤣😂

@jielibai2912 Год назад

It drives me crazy I haven't been able to find the pricing for this specific board anywhere. In USD that is.

@yoltsbp Год назад

i think msrp is 389.99 usd. its on sale on amazon for must over 300 now

@aprilmeowmeow Год назад

you made me double check what mobo I just bought 😂

@fuckoff5078 Год назад

That's a crazy looking motherboard

@marcleblanc7295 Год назад

i built pc's in the 90's but at 53 i havent 'lost an ioa of that smarts - ive ordered products ... maybe i should do a video finally glad i've known this for 36 yrs

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

You're so clever.

@K2pwnz0r Год назад

One of the best features of the new gen intel chips is that they’re compatible with DDR4. DDR5 is still extremely expensive and arguably will be under-utilized by the average person. I doubt this is a mistake someone will casually make 😂😂

@janithcooray5546 Год назад

true, i think the fact that this is a D4 mobo is one of its key selling points. D5 is extremely expensive. also, some uses cases barely even benefit from D5 that its not worth paying for. its beyond expensive

@TylerLeyden Год назад

its not priced bad

@nuclearpcs2139 Год назад

the aorus master 690 for $299 looks like the absolute best choice right now cause it was 469. strong vrm, usb flasheable, 10gb lan, amazing ess sabre audio.

@YouOnlyLiveOnce... Год назад

and highest RMA % due to it being a Gigabyte...

@timothygibney159 Год назад

@@YouOnlyLiveOnce... Can confirm with the z390 version of that board. I am on my third one

@briangrant9942 Год назад

gotten a MSI MPG Z690 CARBON WIFI for 285.00 but got it used like new

@MRrealmadridRaul Год назад

Well, I assume it’s the reputation you’re going off of rather then knowing that particular Aorus master has a high RMA %. I just got the board super cheap so hopefully it’s not bad

@YouOnlyLiveOnce... Год назад

@@MRrealmadridRaul 9 years as pc technician/sales manager - gigabyte has the highest RMA in general

@WaterCrane Год назад

Hey, don't feel bad The Provoked Prawn - I bought a motherboard that didn't work for the spare CPU I had, even though it fit perfectly into the socket. I was confused as to why it turned on but didn't go through any kind of power cycle until I went to a dedicated PC building shop and he outright said I had the wrong motherboard. Thankfully the guy in charge had a spare that was correct and I paid for the extra components and assembly. I later managed to get £50 from selling the incorrect motherboard second-hand.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

oof

@skurjo9975 Год назад

Ram Timings are actually rated as cycles not miliseconds so ram that is at 6000mhz and a cas latency of 40 is exactly as fast as a 3000mhz cas latency of 20. the term latency can be misleading as most people the its measured as a unit of time and dont realize its how many cycles.

@RUFU58 Год назад

I so hope that not many other people are making this mistake. Come on human race I’m counting on you here!

@deuceislord Год назад

Oh well, 65k followers "tech youtuber", won't spend 2 minutes to read tech specs before shelling out £350 for a mid-range motherboard. Then he just scratching head and swaps it to a £800 top shelf one. Probably the white colour was all the concept. Hillarious...

@900ug 8 месяцев назад

@@deuceislorddude he literally got sent the board y'all are acting like immature babies it's not that fuckin serious

@deuceislord 8 месяцев назад

@@900ug doctors can help with your minority complex issues matey

@kp-td1ky Год назад

Great content, I am currently in the process of building a new PC. I bought an Asus ROG Strix Z690 DDR4 (on a good price), and I am planning to buy an intel 13900k with a DDR4 Corsair Vengeance, which I will be available in a couple of days. I hope that there will be no issue with the LGA1700 I currently have, since the processor is 13Gen and my motherboard 12Gen. Intel said its compatible, but we will see.

@doofesnator4913 Год назад

What you mean we will see? Of course it will work, just update bios

@doofesnator4913 Год назад

@@gex581990 😑

@kp-td1ky Год назад

@@gex581990Thanks, I really appreciate the advice. I bought the board a month before knowing that 13900k were released. I'd better buy a 12900k instead and save some money.

@doofesnator4913 Год назад

@@kp-td1ky don’t trust him 🤦‍♀️. The mobos are good enough. We have 2 8 pins to pull 600w. Idk what the hell he’s waffling about

@doofesnator4913 Год назад

@@gex581990 here we go again with the waffling

@kostistsiutras4373 Год назад

look at the bright side, now you can buy the Gskill Trident 32GB 4000mhz (F4-4000C14D-32GTZR) with Cas Latency of only 14 and super tight timings that actually beats in performance 99% of the entirety of all ddr5 lower than 7800mhz.

@kyledurning Год назад

Now you will run into the bigger issue, number of pcie lanes. Im almost certain if you populate all four m.2 drives, your video card is cut down from 16x to 8x. The 13900k only has twenty (20) pcie lanes. If you are running viedo at 16x, that only leaves 4 for your m.2. and each of those need 4. For more lanes you can go to threadripper, intel extreme editions, or server chips (xeon).

@s1n1573r- Год назад

you also have another 20 pcie 4.0 and 8 3.0 lanes on the chipset which will be more than enough, even if all m.2 slots are populated.

@kyledurning Год назад

@@s1n1573r- Agreed. I was referring to full speed lanes. All lanes through the chipset are slowed.

@s1n1573r- Год назад

True if we're talking about some heavy read write operations but for gaming and such the difference will not be noticeable we're talking an added latency of like

@kyledurning Год назад

@@s1n1573r- i guess i just miss the days of extreme edition that had 36 vs 20.

@s1n1573r- Год назад

@@kyledurning Intel have apparently got some hedt chips upcoming so you may see them again in the not too distant future :)

@nextcrusader5758 27 дней назад

Thanks now I know why mine isn’t lining up 😢

@DerekDavis213 Год назад

The first mistake is paying BIG money for this z790 motherboard, when a z690 board for $190 USD works just as well.

@thealien_ali3382 Год назад

U get extra lanes and more bandwidth. But Ur right a z690 will do just fine, I always get the last tier board, such as z390 and hopefully z790.

@DerekDavis213 Год назад

@@bobdol69 Higher speeds? Higher than 6400 MHz? Can you elaborate?

@parsa475 Год назад

"this product isn't useful to me therefore it cannot be useful for anyone else either"

@DerekDavis213 Год назад

@@parsa475 "Buying a motherboard for $500 USD is foolish when a $200 motherboard *works* *just* *fine* " Parsa, In America no savvy PC builder would *waste* *500* *dollars* on a motherboard. It makes more sense to spend that money on a faster video card, or better LCD monitor.

@DerekDavis213 Год назад

@@bobdol69 Who says that Z690 Pro motherboard from MSI is unstable with 6400 MHz ddr5? Z790 is too expensive, and not necessary.

@philmaznyk1577 Год назад

Another great vid Mr. Prawn. Keep up the great work. If I may ask, what is the case you show at 6:36 in this video. Thanks for all you do.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

It's the Corsair 5000T but with their liquid cooling kit ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z9MqMHmejmg.html

@philmaznyk1577 Год назад

Thank you.

@danmar007 Год назад

I wonder what the stupid mistake to smart mistake ratio is during our lifetime. 🙂

@SpregioCheeks Год назад

Dude, same. Was not Aware of d4 and d5 boards. Microcenter guy blew my mind and I was like, wait, then why are they boasting d4 and d5 compatible when board manufacture are only doing what ryzen is up to. And he goes, "I know right!" Lol. Well, so I got ddr5 now...

@robertbartelmes7623 5 месяцев назад

I ALMOST made the exact same mistake ,,, I ordered a Asus ROG Strix Z790-A MB which I assumed was a DDR5 MB ... only moments after placing the online order did I notice the title of the MB said "Asus ROG Strix Z790-A D4" and, upon checking further read that somehow meant it's a DDR4 Asus ROG Strix Z790-A & not A DDR5 "ASUS Prime Z790-A WiFi" MB ...I canceled the D4 order pronto - Bart

@VNewGenerationV Год назад

well....snice it's e waste now, you can just dump it at my house and ill dispose of this non-useable system no cost to you my friend. Glad i'm here

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

🤣

@VNewGenerationV Год назад

@@TheProvokedPrawn XD it was worth a shot :)

@GuidoDePalma Год назад

"There are still arguments for using DDR4. It's cheaper and there are less issues with XMP. In other words it's more stable but it can also have lower timings compared with DDR5" Correction: it has lower bandwith but lower timings. Said that way makes it look like lower latency is a bad thing, where the opposite is true.

@davefellows 2 месяца назад

That's a bit sad they only sent you a DDR4 MB.

@davidanderson5259 Год назад

The shop [it's actually a chain of excellent shops -- Memory Express in Canada] where I bought my Z790 mobo, installed the DDR5 RAM and updated the BIOS for me...a free service. But I'm sure I'll make other mistakes in my build...

@crf5998 Год назад

They now sell a ddr5 capable version up to 128 ram

@garyc5245 4 месяца назад

Yep...did this 2 weeks ago; not realizing it was still possible a z790 could still use DDR4. I was to focused on the price, thinking "this is a great deal!" Ha

@ChasseurTueur Год назад

wow, can you imagine being so rich, you can buy Ram you dont need, nor cannot use, must be amazing :)

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Or alternatively, you work hard and get sent things to use in content and you reuse them with other parts to try to be efficient but make mistakes... I'm not rich.

@Xeridae Год назад

It's funny. I made the same mistake today before I saw this video. DDR4 has been around so long now that I usually don't have to think about this.

@MrVidification Год назад

There seems little difference over the ddr4 and 5 versions of this board. The ram mix up extends to profiles, some stores don't show clearly if the ram offered is for intel or amd

@KiTTVII Год назад

ram isn’t specific to intel or amd it’s just marketing

@MrVidification Год назад

@@KiTTVII some forums suggested that intel profiled ddr5 ram (on an amd mboard) had less issues than the other way around for some reason, although I suspect they may have been mixing that up with motherboard compatibility

@monacocross4241 Год назад

BEST CPU

@beninua Год назад

This is because you use Z790-A. The Z790-F takes DDR5 so that's a very easy switch!

@harmonbrentdm Год назад

That's because Asus put D4 which stands for DDR4. D5 is DDR5

@MickeyFKNMouse Год назад

As soon as I saw the D4 on the box I knew. I almost had the same problem when buying my new rig. I think using D4 to say it’s a DDR4 board is silly and as you found out easy mistake to make. Luckily for me I read the spec sheets on boards. It’s a silly naming system and should not carry the z790 or z690 naming for both ddr4 and ddr5.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Yup, daft naming

@alantorrance6153 Год назад

Thanks for the advice to watch the RAM generation with the I9 boards. About 2 years ago I got a an !9 that takes that earlier DDR4 RAM, and as I am considering increasing my RAM quantity, I shall have to be careful in that respect. Who knows? I may have just gone ahead and got the wrong type, but the MB manual is quite easy to read concerning RAM type and quantity. Goes up to 128Gb of 32GB single DIMM capacity (4 sticks) in either ECC un-buffered DIMM or non-ECC units. Probably best for me to get the same type as is there now. I have two sticks giving me 32Gb, and so far that is plenty, but I could install another two if necessary without replacing the first two, and without running into compatibility problems, to give 64Gb. I suppose I could, instead of 2 sticks of 16Gb, add 2 of 32Gb, giving me 96Gb total.. I would need to take especial care regarding timing.

@ruokeren1919 Год назад

You COULD run into many issues if your set of ram isn't a 4 piece kit. They are guaranteed to be fine, but just pairing another 2 even of the same, could still see you with BSOD due to that..

@twistwist777 Год назад

I knew what was the problem before you mentioned it, I saw a video about this issue... LOL

@broadh2o980 Год назад

Haha I double checked the motherboard purchase like 3 times to make sure I was actually buying the DDR5 version

@daveshane108 Год назад

Here is a Stupid Mistake that I made with the ASUS TUF Gaming Plus WIFI D4 Z690 board and an i5-13600K. The problem that the Z690's BIOS don't work with the 13th Gen Intel processors out of the box. There is No Flash button on the motherboard so you can't update the board. I had to buy a new Pentium Processor that works with LGA 1700 so I can update the board. Fortunately, I found one for under $50. Just because they have the socket doesn't mean that the board and CPU are compatible out of the box.

@michaelmcconnell7302 Год назад

im actually surprised they made ddr4 Z790s.

@jackgreen5960 Год назад

What motherboard do people recommend to pair with the i9 13900K? The confusing part is they are many z790 motherboards and the prices are all over the map. Any advice would truly be appreciated. I am also looking for DDR5 compatibility

@pmarciano1717 Год назад

Same question :)

@jackgreen5960 Год назад

@@pmarciano1717 If you make a decision from the motherboard please PM me and let me know.

@josephgrobler2332 Год назад

A great Z790 motherboard is the Gigabyte GA-Z790-GAMING-X-AX Motherboard. Its priced very well, looks great and will give you support for DDR5, 2.5gig network port, wifi and Bluetooth. It goes for around $300. Most of the pricier boards just have more m2 slots, 10gig network port, and have rgb. You don't need a $1k motherboard. But yeah, it all depends on what you need and you're doing.

@pmarciano1717 Год назад

@@jackgreen5960 i boght the z790- a Gaming ddr5

@Arhey Год назад

It is clearly marked, since it is addition "D4" at the end for DDR4. Sadly they didnt release Rog Strix Gaming A with DDR5 as Z790 only Z690 is available with DDR5.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

That isn't "clear"

@keithcorbalis5446 Год назад

To be clear, they have since released a DDR5 Z970-A, for those troubleshooting like me and confused since it clearly indicates on my box DDR5

@patriciozazzini3182 Год назад

so this mother does not accept ddr5?

@TheLethallist Год назад

There is 2 very similar looking Strix Z790-A Gaming Wi-Fi, D4 is for DDR4, and without "D4" in the name is for DDR5. It's so confusing. And extremely annoying when u trying to google the DDR5 version, cuz most search results will be for D4. Asus definitely should do something with their motherboards naming...

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Apparently with this iteration there's less focus for DDR5 from them as they think people won't want to spend mucho money on RAM but also DDR5 is still a bit unreliable compared with DDR4. Maybe that'll change next time.

@TheLethallist Год назад

@@TheProvokedPrawn Well, I'm here cuz i've search for any info about Z790-A DDR5 version. Gonna buy it next week or even tomorrow and DDR5 kit (Trident Z5 RGB 64Gb 6000Mhz CL30 F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5RK)

@funkybuddhaInit Год назад

You shouldn't pull the protective film off your case while the pc is turned on. Static can build up and kill the components. It's rare but possible.

@dazeen9591 Год назад

very useful info

@certainsomeone64 Год назад

lol

@PorterB Год назад

There actually are videos where people have done this lol.

@Akrymir Год назад

Only the D4 version is DDR4, the regular version is DDR5

@NoirMorter Год назад

That must have sucked! I can't even laugh as it sounds like a mistake I'd make.

@CactusWithAbz 4 месяца назад

Did anyone else have an issue with fitting your gpu into this board ?

@evalangley3985 Год назад

Buying 4 sticks of memory... killing your memory OC.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Video editing chews up a lot of memory but thanks

@kenwilliams7597 Год назад

School boy error. Been there. 🤯

@07Review Год назад

Lol...I was conflicted with the same issue, I was about to have the ddr5, Thanks GOD. I did find out just before get them

@blasta444 Год назад

what Z790 DDR5 motherboard should i use for 13900k

@thealien_ali3382 Год назад

Strix

@blasta444 Год назад

@@thealien_ali3382 STRIX E ?

@aylabasaran3803 Год назад

Can you put a Intel i9 12900K CPU into this Asus Rog Strix Z790-A Mainboard?

@jlb8696 Год назад

I'm thinking before add that problem!? I buy "Asus maximus code" no matter what kind of ram you will put on the motor board accepte all of them beautiful thank you Asus💯

@birdsoup777 Год назад

I bought Gigabyte Aours Z790 for DD5 prices dropped to use with my 12900k. Gskill ddr 6400 would not work at xmp profile, tired it in a z690 msi meg unify, latest bios and xmp worked. By the time the bios for all z790 are perfected 14th gen will be out.

@skyman1883 Год назад

That duel channel or quad channel?

@microponics2695 Год назад

I screwed up the same way with the Asus z790m D4 it only takes DDR4. No big deal the DDR5 was $100 more.

@computers2max Год назад

Wow as a system builder I assumed also the NEW Z790 would only be DDR5 but yes on the site Asus there it is ddr4. WOW!!! Now to goto the shops and get a fire extinguisher for the rtx4090 cable i am using

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

The Corsair 12vhpwr adapter seems like a good solution

@shineychrome43 Год назад

My biggest problem was I bought a 13th gen but the motherboard outta the box only supported 12th gen and needed a bios. Problem was I didn’t have a 12th gen anywhere and the MB did not have flash bios on it… so I had to go out and buy a cheap 12th gen, install it, update the bios and then pop it out and put the 13th in. Thankfully I got it off Amazon for 100$ and I was able to return it that same day for my money back.

@nrdicsurvive510 Год назад

is the asus rog strix z790-a compatible with the i9 13900k???? Pls help

@LahoriGamerYT007 8 дней назад

Yes

@Christopher_S Год назад

I don't understand why there is so much hate with this. Obviously it was a silly mistake, as mentioned in the title. This is a very valid issue to make a video for. Assumptions can hit anyone of us, and to shine a light on this issue here will educate people on things to watch for. I say this is a great video to make.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Thanks, glad someone understood what I was trying to do. Wasn't expecting so much negativity but such is life on the internet.

@Christopher_S Год назад

@@TheProvokedPrawn In my opinion, the negativity is so counter-intuitive. With negativity people are less likely to create educational videos again. Honestly, for the past 15 years I've worked in the computer build/repair field, and I've seen so many people caught out by assumptions like this. Recently I was caught out with a wireless mouse. The marketing all shows that it's got a USB-A charging wire but the mouse itself is type C. The wireless dongle was mentioned but not it's connector. I assumed it would be as the wire, and it would be a type A. It wasn't. It was a type C, and my computer doesn't have a type C port on it. I had to spend another £10 buying a type A to C adapter to get my wireless mouse wireless. Silly mistakes from assumptions hit us all at one point. It's great when someone can help us avoid them. Again, I say thank you and bravo for making it.

@Anon-cv7ru Год назад

I saw the D4 on the motherboard and then the Kingston DDR5 RAM... 😅

@MDBYSL Год назад

A great sigh of frustration @ 4:02

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

🤣

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

And disbelief

@deathray7969 Год назад

quick question, I have the same board & I'm having issues installing all 4 m.2 ssds. have you came across an issue where it only wants you to format the drives in order for them to be visible?

@StrongestNerd Год назад

Respectfully, this video could have been 2-3 minutes max...

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

respectfully, it was meant to be a video for those who care about my channel. I didn't expect it to reach a wider audience. And it's my content so I can do what I want. SHRUG.

@StrongestNerd Год назад

@Sweener Someone gets it.

@ljungan96 Год назад

I specifically bought this motherboard with ddr4 ram in mind. I've got 64 gigs of ddr4 on my old motherboard and I didn't want to buy new ram as well as CPU and motherboard. Don't believe fps in games will be that significantly higher. Might be stupid idk. My CPU was an i7 7700k and needed an upgrade since it highly bottlenecks my gpu.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Sensible money saving plan tbh

@Noone-iy7rk Год назад

You are so confused, you even wrote 590 in the title. Take a break from these jobs.

@istudyokonsepto Год назад

I thought he really made a mistake installing a 13900k to a z590 board based on the title😂

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Yeah that was just a numpty moment. 🤣 Twice.

@Besotted85 Год назад

Aint you a team spirit. Tells him to quit. Your the friend No one needs...

@graxx2805 Год назад

Agreed, you are a minority telling him what to do. It's fine to give him advice on a polite manner, but forcing decisions is something for your own life and not that of others.

@itzyaboy_cc Год назад

You dont even got videos shouldnt be talking about other peoples videos

@christopherfarrell-artist3557 Год назад

So you didn't check the recommended ram on the Asus website....? I am currently researching a new build for my Unreal 5 set up, i7 13700 and Asus z790 and matching the ram serial numbers is the first thing I do.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Good job. If I was buying naturally I'd research but I didn't buy it and made assumptions so this was for others who might have done the same and not realised. Sharing is caring. Calling other people stupid for their errors is not. It's a wise man that learns from other people's mistakes

@FABESTAH Год назад

That's really a classic, so many people have made the same mistake but I don't quite get how this can happen. Especially because DDR-5 is more available now, you usually check the RAM speeds more when shopping for a motherboard to see if it fits with your processor etc. and then you should catch it immediatelly if that the board is a DDR-4 one or not :D

@Ay-xq7mj Год назад

To be fair its been a while since last ram change. I built my 2700x pc years ago and almost forgot until someone reminded me that I actually should check ram type.

@Suliman1990 Год назад

for me i wouldnt know untill friend talld me before i upgrade my pc, i only upgrade my pc after using it for 5-7 years... and after upgrading my pc i dont watch the market and i wouldnt new whats know new things like DDR4 and DDR5 rams.... but i do my research before changing the pc so i wont make this mistake :p

@dakrawnik4208 Год назад

First, LOL. ;) Second, the large empty area above the mobo is a dealbreaker for me. Those rubber grommets are gross too.

@moonlightsoldier8443 Месяц назад

That cpu can handle both ddr4 and ddr5 ram so maybe plug it and see worst case fails to post abd I only seen you unclip the top side

@kommandokodiak6025 Год назад

Just bios update your 12900k board and plop the 13900k in there problem solved

@p0ggles Год назад

I didn't realize some Z790 MoBo's ONLY work with DDR4. I thought Z790's from Intel MoBo's work with both DDR4 and DDR5.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

Some are DDR4 only, some are DDR5 only. You have to watch out.

@Mr_Web Год назад

I had it the other way around. I upgraded from an AMD Ryzen 9 to an Intel i9 13900KF. I had 64Gb of DDR4 and the new motherboard only accepted DDR. Anyways, I had to order 64Gb of DDR5 after all. Lesson learned 😂

@zigzack54 Год назад

I thought the issue was going to be ECC related

@lucasdigital Год назад

Whooo... i've just picked up a Z790-F with a 13th Gen CPU. This motherboard looks very handsome. I'm beginning to wish I'd gone for the glass panel now but I've always thought them a bit "boy racer-ish".

@cesarrobledo2583 Год назад

Will I be okay with a Z690 with a 13600k?

@lucasdigital Год назад

@@cesarrobledo2583 Should be golden. Note: Z790-F is the DDR5-compatible board.

@Tatusiek_1 Год назад

@@lucasdigital i was thinking about getting that one, but it is pricey, what ram did u get for it?

@lucasdigital Год назад

@@Tatusiek_1 It's running with 2x32GB Corsair DDR5 Vengeance Black, PC5-44800 (5600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 40, XMP 3.0, 1.25V. It wasn't something I did any homework on. I can still hear the squeal of my piggy bank for the cost of the 4090. Usually my machines have a 3-year cycle. This one may need to running for 5.

@Tatusiek_1 Год назад

@@lucasdigital i’m assuming a z790-e and up isn’t really worth it. Also I think CL36 would have been a better choice. I could only rly get a 3080 so i might be a bit cpu heavy.

@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Год назад

You should of just picked up some DDR5 ram. My friend. Good luck with your build tho.

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

DDR4 you mean, right?

@xXxAmadeuzxXx Год назад

You could've said that from the beginning. Trying to make your videos longer. Wtr

@TheProvokedPrawn Год назад

There was no malicious intent. I was making content for my audience, a behind the scenes look at what I was doing. Not trying to get longer view times, that's just cynical assumption...

@ryanjones1938 8 дней назад

I have a spare ddr5 board.. it's a z790 asus hero.. I had to upgrade it because it was faulty, so I swapped it for a gigabyte board because that's all they had... I hated the board, I think gigabyte is crap, but asus hasn't been the best lately but it's what I know. So I got the newer z790 v2